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"Are you there, God? It's me, Jillian.
I- I don't know how to tell you this, but..."
"...I really fucked up."
Oh boy, did she ever.
But check out her little cha-cha skirt! Shake it, Anita!
Oy. Where to start. From the top, we guess. But first, let's talk about washes. Specifically, that these are the wrong ones. That light, brushed denim is very not in right now and no matter what she tried to do with it, it was going to look drab and out of style. She addresses this in her interview at the Bravo site:
"It seemed a lot of the designers were going for the darker washes. As soon as the challenge was presented to us, I had the design in my head and I imagined it in an almost white denim. Instead I ended up with light denim (in the two seconds we had to make a decision). I realize that, presently in fashion, it's all about the not-so-washed dark denim, but ... alright, I messed up! And OK fine -- the coat looked a whole lot better in my head!"
Okay, okay. No need to get testy there, girl.
But you see darling, that just means you're a woman now!
Anyway, back to this monstrosity.
Alright, from the top: the collar might've worked had it been executed better but we hate the shoulders on this thing. Bad enough she went with a different wash for the sleeves, but then she attached them at such a weird point. It makes her look broad and droopy.
The bodice is plain and flat-looking - especially when you take into account all the frippery she placed on this thing.
Exhibit A. We're trying to envision a way in which this might have worked, but no. It just doesn't.
Exhibit B: There's just no way something like that could ever work. If you're not sitting at your desk at work, say this out loud: "Denim sleeve ruffles." See? It sounds ludicrous. That's because it is.
Okay, even if you are at work, say it out loud. When your cubicle mate looks at you funny, smile mysteriously. They'll stop hitting you up for birthday club money.
We also hate the proportions on the skirt. Too full for a trench coat, let alone a denim one.
Everything about this was a complete miss. Wrong color choice, bad proportions, too much frippery and to top it all off, terribly executed. She's better than this. For that matter, so was VictorYA. It seems to us that they were both so thrown off their game by having to work with an unfamiliar fabric, that they both defaulted to their previous almost-winning design and tried to duplicate it.
The only reason VictorYA got the auf was because Jillian clearly put more effort into her design. The results were just as bad, but at least she tried. Plus, she finally managed to do the one thing that VictorYA never could.
Allow emotion to register on her face.
[Photo: Barbara Nitke/Bravotv.com - Screencaps: Project RunGay]
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"But you see darling, that just means you're a woman now!"
ROFLMAO. I'm laughing so hard I can't even finish the post.
YES! Jillian's finally a personality... a delirious, panic-stricken adrenaline-driven personality, but I'll take whatever I can get from her, and ask for seconds.
Best critique of the Jillian's trench I've seen. Thank for the good read!
Boys, your critique and humor is superb! Bravo should be paying you guys.
Yes, for that one brief moment Jillian showed emotion - something that her former teammate Victorya(AKA "Team Robot Monotone" from the couture challenge) was never able to do.
"Are you there, God? It's me, Jillian.
AHHHHHHHH! TOO FUNNY!
(I'm fantasizing that Judy Blume reads this blog. If Jillian is Margaret, who is Super Fudge? and who is The Fourth Grade Nothing?)
After an hour on the phone with lawyers in Mexico, this is just what I needed. Such a laugh.
Bleeding for fashion = you're a woman. So it was a Menses Trench!
TLo said,
"say this out loud: "Denim sleeve ruffles"
Not only ludicrous, but so "Little House on the Prairie"- after a winter blizzard cut off supplies (but just before Ma and Pa had to eat one of the girls to avoid starvation.)
I am awed and humbled to be in the presence of such literary-allusion genius. I'm serious! If I weren't scraping my chin off the floor right now, I'd be ROFLing my BWAO (bony white...). Draw me with Lil Orphan Annie eyes right now. I'm stunned and loving it.
Steven was totally the fourth-grade nothing!
You are evil, evil bitches and I love you for it. Hardest laugh this season for your lines. In the last picture Jillian looks like the Virgin Mary on those big candles.
I love it when she's says she's bleeding all over and the Rami comes over and asks "Where?" and it's some little pin prick....
Here's what I just didn't get: she talked about doing a basic trench coat. I though that that idea might have gone somewhere if done with a somewhat more traditional cut, instead of attaching a damn Dirndl skirt to it. She ended up with a bizarre C&W version of a Rhythm Nation costume....Oh, the cacophony!
Yeah. This was one hot mess from top to bottom. I also loved the additional "drama" of VictorYa "stealing" Jillian's "original idea" of making a trenchcoat.
I hate the bleached (or whatever) denim, but like the silhouette. Squint your eyes and look at the screen, see? Not bad. Kind of a rtw version of the avant garde coat. I think she was going for a military medals look with the rows of levi labels on the shoulder. If she had several yards of white denim and a little more time, I would like to see what she could do.
Did anyone else notice Rami while she was getting the bad critique? He looked like he was feeling genuinely protective of her .
Bill said...
"Are you there, God? It's me, Jillian.
AHHHHHHHH! TOO FUNNY!
(I'm fantasizing that Judy Blume reads this blog. If Jillian is Margaret, who is Super Fudge? and who is The Fourth Grade Nothing?)
After an hour on the phone with lawyers in Mexico, this is just what I needed. Such a laugh.
Bleeding for fashion = you're a woman. So it was a Menses Trench!
Come on Bill, the Fourth Grade Nothing has got to be Ricky.
I snorted hot tea out of my nose.
Had to finish reading today's blog through teary eyes.
Must go lay down for a while.
Thank you.
And those are not 501 tags on the shoulder. "It's bloody trim".
Rami don't you see it?
I think it had potential, but the end result is certainly a miss.
SUS said...
Yeah. This was one hot mess from top to bottom. I also loved the additional "drama" of VictorYa "stealing" Jillian's "original idea" of making a trenchcoat.
That happens alot when designers are competing against each other in close quarters, like is school. She said later that she was ashamed of herself for saying that.
I am LOL here bitches!
What a fabulous way to end my week. Yes, that coat was a hot mess. I love that she says so in the interview.
This garment was definately below Jillian's usual standard, but at least she realistically owned up to that, and wasn't one of those designers (who think that everything they put out is a miracle baby).
She must have been really tired by this point in the competition because normally she can make a complete wardrobe for a family of four in the time it takes the other designers to just pull their fabric out of the bag.
As I've said before. Jillian has been the most surprising designer this season (because that audition video made me expect someone who was going to bring the crazy). But from Week One she has been consistant in presenting a high standard of work; she has a clear vision, she doesn't make excuses when she misses, and doesn't try to throw the others under the bus. And early on, she was consistantly overlooked by the judges. Fortunately, they finally woke up.
I am glad she did not get eliminated because she definately deserves to be in the final.
--GothamTomato
Where would this trench have worked?
- An original stage production of THE WIZ.
- On the leader of one of the gangs from THE WARRIORS.
- On a homeless man who is secretly a powerful magician.
- On David Bowie, during a phase that he tried for an afternoon, but then abandoned, somewhere in the stretch between Pirate and Nazi.
- On Todd Rundgren with no shirt, leather pants, sandals, and while being fellated by a groupie from Manitoba.
- In a Doctor Who episode from the mid-eighties, when they meet "punk" street urchins that have been dressed by a costumer who hates her job.
Outside of those scenarios, it's just kind of a big mess.
Those shoulders are very Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814.
That's all I got.
I would also like to add that I'm glad Jeannie B is still on the show. She's wicked talented (despite this misstep), and we're rooting for her in this household.
Rally, Jillian! Get that fluffy head on straight! You can do it!
Hilarious post, boys! My favorite part of this whole Jillian saga is that she tried last season and was rejected. Look at her now, kicking ass all the way to the finals. You go, girl! I'm rooting for you.
OH YAY! The Jillian post! I've been waiting and waiting and waiting....
Muy excelente PRGayBoys...I loved Jillbot this episode because she was a hot mess from beginning to end. I do have to say, I actually teared up for her when she was "bleeding everywhere"...she looked so completely and utterly exhausted.
"Tlo said: But you see darling, that just means you're a woman now!"
HA! That reminds me of a film they showed us girls in 6th grade. The plot: This girl was shopping with her mom and wanted a dress, but her mom said that dress was too mature for her.
Then, a few days later she was bowling with friends, and there was a dramatic scene where she melodramatically clutched her abdomin & keeled over with cramps. After that, her mom took her back to the store and told her she was mature enough for the dress now.
Apparently they were trying to teach us about menstruation, but to me, the lesson was that hurling yourself onto the floor or crying can get you stuff. Never got me a dress, but the crying has gotten me out of quite a few speeding tickets.
Wait a minute!!! Maybe that's why Ricky has been crying: Living in the Gotham dorms, he's now on the same PMS schedule as the rest of the girls.
--GothamTomato
I just saw the preview video in which the 15 designers showed one look, and Jillian had a coat very similar to her avant garde one and her Levis one. It is starting to seem as though she is pretty one note, too. Three coats??? And Rami had a black draped dress!!
So Rami drapes.
Jillian does coats.
Christian does puffy sleeves, frills on the front, and tight pants.
And Ricky's work often looks very, very sloppy.
It seems as though the only ones who actually have some range are Sweet P and Chris March. I am startled to see that she has grown so much, and that he has done some gorgeous dresses and gowns, and still doesn't get the respect he deserves from the judges.
No more coats, puffy sleeves, or draping!! Please!!
"hotchickenbakooti said...
OH YAY! The Jillian post! I've been waiting and waiting and waiting....
Muy excelente PRGayBoys...I loved Jillbot this episode because she was a hot mess from beginning to end. I do have to say, I actually teared up for her when she was "bleeding everywhere"...she looked so completely and utterly exhausted."
It must be tough, the pressure, no sleep and having to be creative on a daily basis, not easy at all.
I love Jillian, she's definitely my favorite.
Love love love ""But you see darling, that just means you're a woman now!" freaking hilarious! I don't how you guys come up with stuff like that.
Loveyameanit
But you see darling, that just means you're a woman now!
OMG I love you bitches when you read my mind but put it so much better than I ever could.
If it were her monthlies, it would pretty much explain everything.
HAHAHA, I laughed so hard at this post. Usually I smile and think 'Oh Tom and Lorenzo, so witty', but today I laughed so hard. The captions are perfect for those crazy pictures, lol.
Wow. Was not expecting the menstrual twist* to this afternoon's reading!
Anywho - the coat did sound like a good idea, but MAN did it come out wrong. I hadn't noticed the dreadful ruffles until now. It looks like the sleeves are retching up denim.
*what an awful, AWFUL phrase, I realize upon reading it. My apologies.
"Are you there, God? It's me, Jillian."
LOL. Jillian's denim coat/dress/whatever wasn't her best work and she earned the scare. She is better than that.
And here I was catching a Hamlet's soliloquy vibe. She seriously needs an intervention.
Cindi
http://www2.cla.umn.edu/images/clatodaynew/Winter06/Fontana-with-skull.jpg
Dead-on, poodles!
I also found these interviews...very interesting!
Victorya:
On the episode this week with the denim design, Jillian tried to make it sound like you stole her idea for a coat, but what really happened?
I actually was not aware that she was doing a coat until it was too late for me. It's not like we ever collaborated in terms of. . .you know you don't really share your ideas with other people before you start them. It's just kind of funny, because the coat category is such a huge category of design. I guess when I saw it I was a little surprised that someone thought that they had the exclusive rights. I don't know, I was just a little surprised by it.
Jillian(Great interview, by the way):
AB: How irked were you that Victorya also made a coat after the great avant-garde one you collaborated on the week before?
JL: I was really shocked. She didn’t seem to be into that sort of thing. At the time I was annoyed. Now I’m annoyed that I was annoyed. My whole attitude was just disgusting.">
She also said:
"Victorya only had Christian as her friend and that was her decision. None of us were very connected to her and she didn’t put herself in a very friendly situation. It was the dynamic the whole time."
"Sewing Siren said: Did anyone else notice Rami while she was getting the bad critique? He looked like he was feeling genuinely protective of her."
Yes, I saw that too.
--GothamTomato
Just ruined a computer spitting out the afternoon green tea over "that just means you're a woman now"
To whom should I send the bill?
Honestly, guys, really great.
When I saw this on the runway, before I went back over it on DVR, I thought she had ended up with a cap-sleeved jacket with a really blech sweater underneath in a non-coordinating color.
Personally, I liked the labels.
having said all of that, and it doesn't sound good, it still wasn't a complete miss and definitely turned out better than VictorYA's, so I have to pick a nit with TLo (rare!)
Except, of course, that Victorya was also friends with Kevin, Jack and Elisa, but by the time this episode was shot they were gone. Elisa said quite clearly in an interview that the designer she felt closest to was Victorya. And it appears to my eyes that the only friend Jillian has among the other designers is Rami. It's nice that Jillian acknowledges her injustice to Victorya at the time of the taping, but then she compounds it by suggesting that Victorya is a nearly friendless recluse. Jillian is certainly one of the more accomplished designers on this season's show, but I find her behavior easily the most annoying.
Thanks,
Dale.
LOL! Funny, sad, and true.
Holy Flashback, Gotham Tomato! That film! We saw a slightly different version. The only thing that stuck with me was that the adult women wore Chanel-red lipstick up to their nostrils! Those were the biggest red lips I had ever seen. In retrospect, how symbolic!
And what the heck were they showing the boys? Some film on the miracles of maturity from the male perspective? Sports films? How to get laid? What?
All I know is that none of us established eye contact with members of the opposite sex for the rest of the day after that film fest!
Sorry for the digression.
Rosie's Girl
I have to say ... these are some of the funniest screen caps of the entire season. Great job.
Guys, this is so funny, I kid you not when I say that people here in the office are asking me if I'm "on that site again." Hilarious!
I felt bad for her, she was obviously exhausted and stressed out. I'm glad the judges chose someone else to go.
Actually, minus the sleeves, I thought this was a cute coat. I love the sillouette. And while there are too many red epaulets, it's a unique idea.
But great post, guys! Right off the bat you got me laughing with the "Are You There God" reference.
Rosie's girl -- "And what the heck were they showing the boys?" -- i don't think the boys got a film, but i remember someone telling me when we went to the auditorium to see the film and one of the boys asked where we had gone, another one answered "some film on administration".....
as for the coat -- the collar looks like a whiplash brace, the red tags were horrid and the ruffles at the end of the sleeves are completely out of place. i'm glad she's still in, tho -- i really do believe she's one of the better designers this season.
Bill,
Thank you. I will now watch the entire next episode waiting for Christian to jump around the workroom in the Green Kangaroo costume.
Kat
Poor Jillian. Someone let that woman have a nap.
Thanks for the close-ups. The silhouette evokes her totally fierce coat from last week, but this is nowhere near that accomplishment when you look at the details.
I have to say, I thought and still think the shoulder labels were a genius touch, and on a better garment they would have been both witty and brave.
The shape of the coat wasn't all that bad, it was just completely inappropriate for the fabric. VictorYa's, on the other hand, was unremittingly awful and showed up her one-notedness. I was so delighted to see her go because both she and her work were dull, dull, dull.
Good luck, my fluffy little Valium robot. I'm interested in you and your hotpants, even if nobody else is ...
Sorry, guys...I think Jillian resides just south of the bitchy side of life. Didn't care for her rolling her eyes at Sweet P either.
Oh, well, maybe she was tired. Send her out on a medical pass to have her face sharpened, let her get some sleep, and perhaps all will be well.
God this was terrible. At least, unlke Ya's, it was a terrible design as opposed to a terrible, cobbled together nothing.
rosie's girl said...
Holy Flashback, Gotham Tomato! That film! We saw a slightly different version...
And what the heck were they showing the boys? Some film on the miracles of maturity from the male perspective? Sports films? How to get laid? What?
I think the boys got to see a a film on the evils of masturbation that day. For whatever good THAT did...
"Alright, from the top: the collar might've worked had it been executed better but we hate the shoulders on this thing. Bad enough she went with a different wash for the sleeves, but then she attached them at such a weird point. It makes her look broad and droopy."
Wow, I didn't notice that. You're right. It looks strange. Thanks for the close-ups.
I am in a complete funk. The reason? I really, really liked this coat. I would totally wear it. I love light blue washed denim. I don't understand why there is such hatred out there for this kind of denim. I love the twirly skirt on the coat--it reminds me of Mary Tyler Moore. I like the ruffles on the sleeves. SIGH
" tripletmom96 said...
i don't think the boys got a film, but i remember someone telling me when we went to the auditorium to see the film and one of the boys asked where we had gone, another one answered "some film on administration"....."
ROFLMAO!
Dead on review, you are awesome, I agree on every point. I adore Jillian for some weird reason though, and am really glad she is sticking around. I kind of find her non-emotive affectations interesting. I think. And as someone commented, Bravo really should be paying you.
I am in a complete funk. The reason? I really, really liked this coat. I would totally wear it.
Don't feel bad.
My girlfriend liked it as well, and she designs denim jeans for a living.
She also like big floppy coats, and she said there would be some serious editing... so there's that caveat. But not everyone hated it, for sure...
Watching it the second time, I saw Rami ask Jillian "Isn't this fun?" when she was obviously having a melt down. Granted it might have been the editing - but it seemed cruel.
Bravo needs the TLo commentary for all DVD collections in the future. Simple as that.
For all the shit Chris, Kevin, and anyone else ever got for unfinished hems/edges, Jillian got away with a lot this time around. Granted Vya did so very little with her materials, it was still a miracle Jillian was spared the auf.
The girl needs to make it work next week. Big time.
Actually, denim was not an "unfamiliar fabric" for Jillian to work with. Didn't her team win the bad trends challenge with their denim outfits? I recall she made updated denim overalls.
Love the Judy Blume reference. "Forever" was passed around my 8th grade friends with pages folded for the sex parts. What an educational book that was.
Blanche
Actually, my favorite part of the design was the denim sleeve ruffles. Seriously. Everything else was so 80s, but the ruffles were more 70s. Maybe 1870s but still.
BUT what I couldn't see on my TV was how poorly constructed the whole thing was. No hems, jagged edges, missing bits, etc. THAT was suprising coming from Jillian. I mean she sucks at time management but still manages to pull off something nice. Thank heaves Victorya was far, far worse in both design (what design?) and execution (I could have done it).
Personally, I was thinking stigmata.
Was this the missing pod piece that Kevin didn't get around to making in season 1?
- Donna
I was really thinking that the tags would look really great IF and ONLY IF she had managed to make this look more military esque. I was under the impression, when the tags were first shown, that she was doing something sharp and clean, military inspiried.
Some shoddy tailoring and terrible shoulders later, I was proven otherwise.
My friend in 11th grade had a shirt that looked exactly like the top of the coat, except it had REALLY big shoulder pads, and was in grey cotton. The sleeve ruffles added that extra Adam Ant touch. Had she chopped the skirt off below the ass and added leg warmer, she would have had my friend's 1984 clubbing outfit.
(And that was an actual friend, as opposed to me. We won't discuss what I dressed like.)
Meanwhile, this whole outfit felt like a "sophmore slump" or like she got stuck in a rut. After that spectacular coat last week that was first runner up, she seemed to pull together roughly the same thing, but in a different fabric. Even the styling was the same.
How long did they actually have between these two challenges?
The moment Jillian said the word "epaulet" I was sure this coat was headed for disaster.
Maybe it could have looked witty on another design. but I'm just not sure what that design could have been. It was costumey, costumey, costumey.
Jillian looks like the Virgin of Guadalupe....
Thanks Alex!
That Doctor Who reference made my day :o) You're so spot on!
Judy fucking Blume!!!! You, and most of Jill's wardrobe, transported me back to about 1972.
Absolutely fabulous, darlings.
I'm one of the people who kind of liked the silhouette. The second to last photo of Lauren with Jillian showing the coat from the waist up looks pretty cute. I can see where she was trying to go and I'd love to see what Jillian could have turned out with a little more time and a lot less tired. And the styling was a nice toned-down version of the faux hawk on Victorya's model last week.
Dark denim wash has been on trend for years so if someone wanted to be fashion forward, shouldn't they be doing a different color? Like maybe the opposite of dark which would be light? I didn't like the different colored sleeves but the light wash on Jillian's and Sweet P's was a refreshing change.
That one shot of the waist area takes me right back to my Grandma wearing a waist apron over her housedress--you know, the fit and chubbiness looking factor.
LOVE the last photo capture...Jillian almost looks deranged! HA!
ROFL. That last screencap has me thinking of a remake of "Carrie."
Eeek! I dunno why, but I like the ruffle sleeve.
"I was under the impression, when the tags were first shown, that she was doing something sharp and clean, military inspiried.
Some shoddy tailoring and terrible shoulders later, I was proven otherwise." --crow winters
That really made me chuckle crow. I also visited your webpage this morning..very nice.
This blog attracts so many interesting people, it's the gift that keeps on giving. Can't thank our Boys enough.
I just realized this coat has elements of the Spiegel catalog "Together" collection which literally has not changed since the 80's, when i wore that style. They would totally dig denim ruffles and frippery (which I thought was another TLocutionary word--thank you to who quipped that one!--but I googled it and dang i was wrong!).
As always, very nice write-up!
I think I'm weird: I liked the different-color sleeves, and think it could've worked had she not attached them at that weird spot.
Good ideas gone wrong are always sad to see. Darker wash and better construction...
are you guys going to cover victorYA
s fashion weeks show??? please say you are
I loved the idea behind what Jillian wanted to do. Too bad the execution did not live up to expectations. That coat really did have a lot of potential. But what counts is what walks down the runway. I would love to see what she would have accomplished with more time to edit.
I now want to add a levi's denim trench coat to my wardrobe. But a good one, not Victorya's tacked together Frankentrench or Jillian's almost there almost auf'd. I think what I would really like is a well executed toned down version of Jillian's avante garde submission done in a dark wash denim with the lining and piping made of a black watch flannel tarten.
Not to everybody's taste I know. Matched with boots and jeans to wear during boring everyday errands would sure beat the heck out of that hum-drum car-coat I use now. :le sigh
Anonymous said...
are you guys going to cover victorYA's fashion weeks show??? please say you are
12:58 PM
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From your type to TLo's eyes! Then maybe we could play match the designer with her runway offerings!
Jillian is not the first designer that Victorya has copped design elements from. If you watch the "Meet the Designers" videos on Bravo, she has the sleves and silhouette from Elisa's fabric pooh dress mimiced in a little pink number. The red dress she walks out with at the end is a copy of Jack and Ricky's design from the SJP/Bitten challenge.
Also, Victorya's prom dress win is almost identical to a Mychael Knight design from a movie called "Sweet 16." I was glad when I heard Jillian say something about Victorya's knock-off aesthetic. 'Bout time someone else noticed and not just a few on the interwebs. ;)
Absolutely spot on with the critique, ladies.
When my partner and I watched that come down the runway our eyes just got huge and we both started screaming, "Oh no, honey, no, why!?" Poor thing was completely off her game last week, but I'm extremely thankful that she stayed instead of VictorYA.
"nibs said: Jillian is not the first designer that Victorya has copped design elements from. If you watch the "Meet the Designers" videos on Bravo, she has the sleves and silhouette from Elisa's fabric pooh dress mimiced in a little pink number. The red dress she walks out with at the end is a copy of Jack and Ricky's design from the SJP/Bitten challenge."
I believe she would have to had to be capable of time travel to do that because, if I am correct, the looks in that preview were completed before the taping began.
--GothamTomato
Nibs, I believe the Mychael dress you're talking about was on MTV's "My Super Sweet 16." Here's a comparison: http://jezebel.com/343485/copy-cats.
"gloria said...
Watching it the second time, I saw Rami ask Jillian "Isn't this fun?" when she was obviously having a melt down. Granted it might have been the editing - but it seemed cruel."
I got the impression that that was just kidding around with a friend. They've seemed supportive of each other all season, and make a great team. In fact, I believe they're starring together in a musical version of Guess Who's Coming to Seder, at the Westbury Music Fair.
--GothamTomato
Ms Gotham said:
I got the impression that that was just kidding around with a friend. They've seemed supportive of each other all season, and make a great team. In fact, I believe they're starring together in a musical version of Guess Who's Coming to Seder, at the Westbury Music Fair.
Thanks,I hope that was it - as we now know the editing can cause a manifest screw up and make us stone all the wrong people.
Hmmm: The Sedar musical made me think of Fiddler...which led to Chris as the Papa and Elysa as the Mama...and Victorya as Fruma Sara...
and one more itty bitty thing...I LOVE her coats...little old ladies like me just love collars that cover our necks up to our noses...sigh...
I believe she would have to had to be capable of time travel to do that because, if I am correct, the looks in that preview were completed before the taping began.
How do we know this? (Not a hostile question; I'm seriously asking.) They (Heidi and Bravo executive) refer to the new season of PR starting "this Wednesday" (in November) but that doesn't tell us anything about when the preview garments were made with respect to the show garments. The show was filmed during the summer; the preview was filmed in November -- at least so I assume; they could also have used fake dates.
It seems to me that some, all, or none of the preview garments could have been made after the summer taping. Without seeing datable pieces (e.g. a garment that a designer used in his/her audition tape) it's impossible to know for sure, given the information we have.
But I Could Be Wrong. Oh so easily. Please someone explain to me.
Edited to add this from a review of Victorya's collection:
After flipping through Victorya's past designs on Project Runway, I realized two things. It's incredible that she lasted as long as she did, and tonight's runway show was leaps and bounds beyond anything she ever showed the PR judges.
Doesn't this sound like Victorya's current runway designs are subsequent to her ("past") PR designs? This reviewer seems to think she's improved since PR. (The link is at BPR.)
Again, I could be interpreting wrongly.
I had the same reaction as red7eric -- Janet Jackson, Rhythm Nation 1814. Totally.
I also ALMOST like this, ridiculous as that sounds. I don't, but I almost do. I have no credibility now, I realize.
it might not have turned out so bad if she just cut off the sleeves & collar and called it a dress. the judges probably would have peed themselves over it.
i give her loads of credit for always being ambitious. her desperate need to over-achieve is truly endearing.
Gotham Tomato and Gloria,
I was thinking Jillian's two coats would be great in a production of the Country Mouse (denim coat) and the City Mouse (avant garde coat).
Nibs said...
Jillian is not the first designer that Victorya has copped design elements from. If you watch the "Meet the Designers" videos on Bravo, she has the sleves and silhouette from Elisa's fabric pooh dress mimiced in a little pink number. The red dress she walks out with at the end is a copy of Jack and Ricky's design from the SJP/Bitten challenge.
Also, Victorya's prom dress win is almost identical to a Mychael Knight design from a movie called "Sweet 16." I was glad when I heard Jillian say something about Victorya's knock-off aesthetic. 'Bout time someone else noticed and not just a few on the interwebs. ;)
Nibs, all of the design elements that you have listed (that Victorya supposedly "copied" from other designers) are as old as the hills.
Jillian herself said later that it was obnoxious of her to claim that Victorya was copying her. Check out the Burning Question section at the Bravo site.
Flutter sleeves, shirring at the waist, bubble silhouettes and jeweled necklines were all around before Elisa, Mychael, Ricky or Jack were born and I am certain none of them would claim to have "invented" them. Victorya would have been exposed to these design elements long before she appeared on Project Runway and if you look at her website, you will see that the designs from the PR preview show and her current collection are not departure, but a natural progression of what she was working on previously.
I agree that some of the design elements are old as the hills Sewing Siren. Have you seen Mychael's design I refered to? Here's the link if you would like to see for yourself: http://jezebel.com/343485/copy-cats
GothamTomato said...
I believe she would have to had to be capable of time travel to do that because, if I am correct, the looks in that preview were completed before the taping began.
--GothamTomato
The series was taped over the summer. The promo was taped in November. Heidi talks about the season premier being "next week" in the video. Check for yourself.
Nibs said...
The series was taped over the summer. The promo was taped in November. Heidi talks about the season premier being "next week" in the video. Check for yourself.
GT doesn't need to check the video. She was there at that runway show with us.
That doesn't quite answer the question as to when the looks for the November show were completed, but several of the designers used the garments they showed in their auditions for the November show, so at least some of them were completed before taping of S4 began.
Nibs, I did see the Mychael Knight dress , although the picture on Jezebel isn't very good, and I would say both dresses owe a lot to 60's designers Pierre Cardin and Rudy Grenreich. Although neither is a direct rip off.
Furthermore that look , a full mini with the faux jewels at the neckline was all over the place at multiple price points this last holiday season, to the point of over-saturation. I'm not sure when that program was taped or if she even saw it, but I really don't think she copied.
Well alrighty then, it's only fashion. Right? I still see a copy-cat element to several of Victorya's clothes. But as Soloman said: "There's nothing new under the sun."
To Sewing Siren: How fabulous would the avant coat look on a wicked stepmother in any fairytale!
Oh, well. Sometimes things don't fecking work out.
This was one of them. But I have to say, Jillian's had more way thuds than the judges are admitting.
I'm not sure how much of a bay-bee she really is, or if the editing is just making her out to be one. I'll bet she's in the final 3. Jillian has focus and determination. Not the most interesting personality, but def. someone who will make fashion a lifelong career.
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