See? We point out that a talented designer isn't getting any love from the judges and what happens? What ALWAYS HAPPENS?
Darlings, we must learn to use our special powers for good.
But kittens, perhaps you can answer something for us because we're a little confused.
If Kit was the team leader and for the most part Ricky was a decent team mate without any drama and they used her design and went with her fabric choices...
Why is everyone so pissed off at Ricky because she went home?
Because honeys, this:
Is a frigging disaster.
On the one hand, this seems to be the only design this week that isn't totally derivative of some other designer's work. On the other hand, who the fuck considers aprons and hoop skirts avant garde?
And WHAT is with those FABRICS? It's like Little House on the Prairie suffered a high speed head-on collision with Gone With the Wind and this is the bloody and possibly brain damaged result.
Seriously, those are some of the worst fabric choices we've ever seen. They look like old bed linens. Where did all the money go on this one?
Supposedly, she was going for a "bird's nest, girl-in-a-garden" concept, but we can't see any evidence of it here.
The only thing that's even slightly interesting about it is that detail on the back of the skirt but it's kind of strange to conceptualize a hoop skirt as a "walking away" dress.
It's so weird. We're not sure if Kit or Ricky really has an understanding of what avant garde actually means, but this ain't it. It fails on every level. It didn't reflect her stated concept; it wasn't avant garde or forward-thinking in any way; the choice of bland, underwhelming fabrics worked against whatever visual drama a hoop skirt provides; and to top it all off, it wasn't particularly well executed.
As for the ready to wear...
Remember in Season 2 when they had the Barbie challenge and at the last minute Tim told them that they had to make an outfit for the Barbie as well and most of the designers just said "Fuck it" and stapled fabric scraps to their dolls and the results were so heinous that the judges never even mentioned them?
Yeah.
It's kinda like that.
The angry mob with torches and pitchforks on the internet seems to think that Ricky should have gone home this week but that really sounds like they're seeking payment for past offenses. He did nothing to warrant being auf'd. Personally, we feel that Kit is the better designer of the two of them, but that's how the game is played. You make one wrong move (and don't provide enough drama for the producers) and it's auf wiedersehen, baby. This was her concept and it just didn't work.
I understand why Kit went home, but personally I thought Rami deserved the auf. His design was derivative of everything he's done so far, it was the least dramatic avant-garde thing on the runway, and he proved himself to not be a good team player.
Kit's was bad, sure, but at least you could ...kind of see her point of view, and worked with Ricky well.
But of course, Rami > Kit in the judges eyes. Sigh.
she was going for the Holly Hobby ragamuffin look with her fabrics. yes, girl in gardin, retro bed sheet patterns. it's supposed to be "indie chic." certainly, her look was more avant garde than Rami's.
and i love how the judges come to the conclusion that the poor construction has nothing to do with these insane time constraints. "it looks rushed." well, no shit.
I'm ok with her going home. What was her intent with this dress? What was her name again? What did she show in the other cometitions? Blank, blank, blank. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
While the outfits she designed last episode were bizarre and underwhelming, the outfit she wore was bizarre and awesome.
Way to show off those gams, Debbie Reynolds!
I think she's talented and could have shown us some interesting stuff, but it's getting to that point in the season where everyone needs to have their A game going.
And last episode was a perfect chance to show the judges what the designers are capable of. Kit dropped the ball like Lucy Van Pelt in the outfield.
Charlie Brown is screaming "AAAAUUUGH!!" on the pitcher's mound right now.
true. I thought the back of the dress was gorgeous, and I just loved Kit. Maybe if those hoops had been put to better use this would have had a chance.
This season is keeping me grouchy; yet I can't tear myself away... -R
I think Kit is a good designer, but the whole season she pretty much flew under the radar. I think that hurt her when she did finally make something disastrous - there was no amazing design for the judges/producers to remember lovingly and make them give her another shot.
I understand why she went home, but I wanted Ricky to go home because his past work was crap and because he made the RTW dress, which was crap.
I know, I know she designed the major dress which did suck. Like Laura Ingalls Wilder on crack. But I liked Kit and between the two of them, Ricky should have gone home.
Thanks to a tip from our fierce hosts, T&Lo, head over to the PR website and find the bonus 'holding cell' video. Pay attention to Kit whispering; now we know that sweet innocent little kitty cat Kit has claws and she thinks that Chris should be thrown under the bus because he's been auf'd before. Not so nice...
As for the team Kit garments, the couture look was fugly like a Desperate Housewives hostess on crack, and the RTW look looked like it was snatched from the final markdown rack at Loehmann's. No, sorry, that would be an insult to Loehmann's.
Well, really good points all around. My problem in general with Kit going home is that she is a better designer than Ricky or Sweet Pea, and appears to have more range than Rami. I would have liked to see any of those 3 go first.
But you're right. The nature of the game is that the designers are judged from challenge to challenge. Not that it actually always happens that way in the judges convoluted little worlds.
Everybody's got to go home eventually. Except for Chris and Christian of course.
People are mad about Ricky not going home because they like Kit so much. It's kind of like how Laura was all pissed off at Vincent when Alison got sent home.
As for that Gone with the Wind monstrosity. Well. If a bird's nest is your inspiration, there are so many ways to go that are truly avant garde. You know, like maybe a dress that looks like a bird's nest. Invert the hoop skirt, make it monochromatic, whatever, and make the bodice in the color of a canary or a cardinal. It could have been over the top and amazing.
For once this season, I agree with Nina: What was Kit thinking?
There are a miraid of looks you can acheive with a hoop skirt and this one just went off the track. BUT it WAS something completely different and out of Kit's comfort zone.
Between the two, Rami should have been chased off the runway for sending down another Sari inspired draped "wonder". UGH. How many more will we have to endure before he is finally kicked off the runway? Its like Angela with her shitty fabric flowers.
And what does the man have against the left boob? Was he breastfed only from the right or something?
I hope Kit will go far in her career. She's a great designer and did NOT deserve to be auf'd this week.....I hope she remembers her muse for this challenge and thinks, "after all, tomorrow is another day".....
I agree with you, boys. And I feel like I'M the reason these designers are going home. For the past 2 weeks in the Fantasy Runway, I have picked Kevin and Kit to win. And they've both gone home. I feel like I should stop voting on the Fantasy game, because I'll curse whomever I pick. Or I should reverse my strategy! Pick Ricky to win, and he'll get auf'd.
Anyway, Kit's dress was horrific, and she was the obvious choice to go home. Sorry, Kit. That dress was FUG. And in no way did it fulfill the spirit of the challenge.
I liked the idea they were going for, but I thought there were going to be "nests" sort of all over the skirt, as though the layers of fabric had been twirled like pasta into more literal nests and blooms.
I feel like Rami should have gone...he look was the same thing he always does, he REALLY needs to learn about leading people, and his look didn't strike me as avant garde at all....I'll bite my tongue until we get there, though.
OK, fine when you put it that way, I AM compelled to agree that Kit deserved the auf over Ricky (goddam well-reasoned arguments with stunning visual proof). But I still want him gone...five weeks ago.
I do understand why Kit went home, as she didn't seem to truly understand the concept of avant garde. I also didn't see that the birds-nest idea came across at all in the finished design. If Kit had thought about what bird nests look like, she and Ricky could have developed something very cool- birds nests can be tightly woven, cuplike in shape, or they can be more loosely structured, and can contain different types of materials-grasses, twigs, feathers, etc. So, if a designer thought about it, it could be quite avant garde.
I actually loved the little spectrum of color in the back of Kit's avant garde dress, actually reminded me a little bit of Jay's dark red dress from fashion week, but the rest of the garment made me feel awkward. I just don't like Ricky - I think he should have gone home last week, think how interesting a kevin/kit dress would have been... maybe they would have been praised for once.
Thanks for saying that. It's getting annoying to wade through all the illogical posts about how Ricky should have been sent home. True, he didn't seem to contribute much creatively, but that is not the primary reason for their failure.
Kit explained (I think in the Burning Questions blog) that she was not thinking about couture. She started from a concept for a photo shoot to showcase the hair. She said she got sidetracked from the purpose of the show -- clothing design -- and didn't realize her mistake until it was too late.
This thing could have been great. But the only thing that could have saved it was if Rami had walked along side it in a towel.
What I feel badly for for Kit is that she never got credit for what she did well. Sure, she got some kudos for menswear, but her first dress was interesting and really well made. I wasn't thrilled with the fabrics, but that might have been wore about what was put in the tents and what she found and was willing to fight over.
And one of the best things on the runway this season was her fashion retread dress, which was completely ignored. That dress she did with the team was incredible and beautifully executed, and it fit Marie (one of the best models this season, I'd say) wonderfully.
And her Bitten outfit was really cute. A nice casual shirt with leggings. I'm not thrilled with leggings in any design, but that top would work on so many bodies and with the right pants, accessories it would even make a good casual Friday look.
Her dress for the makeover challenge was okay- not great. It looked well made, fit her client's personality. The fabrics were the worst part of it, which was the result of the challenge and not her choices.
And I liked her prom dress.
It just seems so sad that the first real attention she gets in the season (minus the menswear) is to call her out on the garment that didn't work.
Kit, I'll miss ya. BUt you know, at least she went out on the high road. And that of course is the kiss of death.
While I didn't care for her designs throughout the competition (that's just personal taste), kudos to Kit for her dignified exit interview. She's accepts and takes responsibility for her aufing, and that seems rare. Brava, Kit.
The AG dress was a trainwreck. And the RTW was even worse. At least Kit got sent home for something truly heinous. Kevin was unfairly sent home for something that looked pretty decent.
Ricky's RTW dress was so basic, uninspired, and FUGLY that the judges were speechlesss. "Amateur" did not even begin to describe it. Can anyone remember when such a bad designer made it this far in PR? I don't think Vincent was close to being this bad.
I agree completely. If you're going to judge on a challenge by challenge basis, Kit was the right person to auf. Even in the RTW dress, the biggest problem was the fabric, which Kit chose. I would have loved to see her stick around longer, but she seriously sucked this challenge.
I thought the bedsheet fabric was a deliberate tie-in to her nesting concept. like when pregnant women go all crazy decorating a nursery, often with soft, cute, floral stuff, they're said to be nesting. and a bird's nest is effectively a nursery.
love the idea of making an inverted hoop to imply an actual nest, though. that would have been amazing.
Everyone is pissed because Ricky is soooooooo annoying.
There is seriously no other way to say it. I'm bummed out about Kit leaving, I was starting to really like her work, but that dress was appalling.
I feel like it may have been a good concept if executed differently.
Ricky is my least favorite designer right now, Victorya in close second, followed by Mr. Quietly-passionate-about-draping-and-throwing-Sweet-P-under-the judges'-bus-even-though-her-RTW-dress-was-AbFab.
Though it is unfortunate I guess Kit really was the fair Aufee.
People wanted Ricky to go instead of Kit because Ricky is a consistently terrible designer and an attention whore who fake-cries for the cameras. Kit just seems like a more genuine person, and a better designer. It's a shame to see her go when someone like Ricky slips by again and again. You just know the producers are influencing the judging to keep his "drama" going week after week.
It's arbitrary and unrelated to the actual results of the challenges, but so are most of the judges' recent decisions this season.
I LOATHE Ricky. Just loathe him. Yes, it's irrational, but that fake-crying just really sets me off; it's so clearly phony and totally meant for the cameras.
So sad to absolutely agree with you. Kit was one of my heart of heart faves,but yes she should absolutely have gone home for this. With her funky edge this challenge should have been right up her alley(just as the candy challenge seemed a perfect fit for Elisa).As soon as I saw the consult with Tim I knew she would go home. Yes ,Ricky's time is past due,but I thought even his simple frock was better than the main piece. This challenge has to be one of my all time favorite PR challenges! My vote ,however close, would have gone to team Jillian. Oh,and Sweet Pea finally showed why she was chosen as a designer this season.
Ricky's RTW dress was so basic, uninspired, and FUGLY that the judges were speechlesss. "Amateur" did not even begin to describe it. Can anyone remember when such a bad designer made it this far in PR? I don't think Vincent was close to being this bad.
In the same bonus video steubenville referenced (and Kit was being a TOTAL bitch in that clip, if not in her exit interview) Ricky can be heard to be saying something like, "they just don't know how hard it is to be in the bottom all the time," referring to the judges or the other designers - I wasn't sure. But the moment I heard it, I thought, "then make something decent Ricky!" Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Vincent was at least deranged enough to think his work was amazing - Ricky knows he's a fraud.
However, I totally agree Kit should have gone home - it was her design and vision, not a true collaboration like the two high scoring sets of looks (there's a lesson for you), and it was a sorry mess. Even though Rami's was derivative and boring, it was better than Kit's.
"tlo said: See? We point out that a talented designer isn't getting any love from the judges and what happens? What ALWAYS HAPPENS?"
You know, the same thing happens whenever Dick Button is calling a competition, and says a skater is doing well. As if on cue, instantly, splat, they go down.
As sad as I was to see Kit go, the dress missed in many ways. If the hoops had waves and the ribbons swirled all around the skirt, it may have saved her. I also would have used stronger colors.
Alas and alack, there's nothing we can do about this except wait for more delicious commentary from our favorite bloggers.
I think one of the underlying problems with the judging in PR is that it seems like the judges don't take the totality of the designers work into consideration. They seem to judge for the moment. Unlike say Top Chef, where the judges are constantly discussing past work in context to whats occurred with each new episode.
Thats how someone like Ricky can stay on the show past episode two.
When Kit mentioned her "bird's nest, girl-in-a-garden" concept, my mind immediately went to deep brown, every green from a deep, rich velvety green to a soft yellow-y green. Very earthy and sexy. Even throw in a little cleavage. Make the dress textural, rich, begging to be touched. That's a girl in the garden.
No, Ricky should've gone home LAST week. And no, I stuck to my guns and didn't watch. I've been reading the blogs & screencaps.
As much as he bugs me, Ricky really didn't deserve to go this week. (Of couse that would be moot if he was auf'd last week) Neither did Rami. His construction, while derivative, was still impeccable.
This was totally Kit's design, fabric choices, concept, and she sewed that crappy looking skirt.
this was heinous. As ever I agree 100% - they couldn't auf Ricky. As i said yesterday, it was all about responsibility for the team leader good or bad and Ricky was a good team mate. It just wasn't Kit's area, I guess
I can't figure what this outfit has to do with the hairdo? Actually I can't figure exactly what that hairdo is supposed to be in the first place. I get a little 70's disco/Karen Lynn Gorney vibe in it. For a short time there was a trend to updated 30's glamour hairstyles in the 70's and this is similar to what I remember. But teaming it with Scarletts hoop skirt doesn't make sense to me.
This seemed like one of the most uninspired hairstyles on the runway so maybe picking that one to work with was their Waterloo.
Ooh, Waterloo! They could have done some kind of "Abba on crack" look! But that would take someone like Chris to pull off.
I have to say, I was excited when I initially heard the "bird's nest" comment. This could have been so cool - twisted fabric, natural elements, sparkly things - feathers and beads and eggs and construction. It could have been big and fantastic. Instead...it was boring and country.
I don't hate Ricky, I don't even find him annoying at all as most of you seem to. He seems like a very good, sweet guy. But it's definitely becoming apparent week after week as other designers leave that he is getting out of his league.
He just doesn't measure up to Jillian, Chris, Christian, Victorya, and Rami when it comes to the challenges. I think Sweet Pea is in the same boat as Ricky.
I wonder what would have happened if Sweet Pea and Ricky teamed up? As it was they both survived because they were paired with stronger team members who took the lead on the projects.
I think it was the satin edges that uglified this dress out to the nth degree. Looked like baby blanket finishing. Maybe if she had gone with some less 1880s farmhouse fabrics and rather gone with some more Frenchy brocade-y patterns, without the damned satin, she could have done a Marie Antoinette-ish romantic thing with that giant skirt.
As you can see, I'm not fluent in fashion-speak.
Rami? Didn't even try, though, to come up with anything "avant-garde" and deserved scorn more for that than for being impatient with Sweet P, which I can totally totally understand.
Coming soon to an exit interview near you (although I said this after Elisa went home): Sweet P.
Not coming soon enough to an exit interview near you: Li'l Ricky and some god-forsaken cap.
I agree that the bird's nest concept had lots of possibilities, even with the design that Kit came up with. I think the horrible flannel nightgownesque fabric really sunk it. Gothamtomato nailed it with "Courtney Bo Peep." Sorry Kit had to go but it was her or Rami and he looks better in a towel.
Ricky would be wise to withdraw himself from the competition. I can't see his continued production of train wrecks (maybe that's the reason for the hats?) as very good advertising for his design "abilities."
Hahhahhahaha. You guys always manage to crack me up when I'm having a crappy work day.
I thought the "avant garde" dress looked like sheets & towels laundry day at a "Gone with The Wind" themed Bed & Breakfast. Or maybe it was a peek inside Laura Ashley's linen closet.
I had picked her to win last week and thought I was the "Big Jinks".
I really was hoping to see "Mean P" come out and go off on Rami's uptight ass. And why did he think black pants would look good with a(nother) toga dress?
At least one "anonymous" commenter has suggested that Ricky's crying is fake, and intended for the cameras. Maybe I'm just naive, but I totally buy Weepy's wear-it-on-your-muscle-t-sleeves emotion. I think it is genuine, along with his relative lack of fashion skill. How he's hung on for so long is a mystery, but the boys are right: Kit's auf'ing is completely deserved. The dress looks like old electric blankets, and the whole thing was her "story," as Ricky himself observed. As for Rami: Yes, he was a total meanie to Sweet P. And yes, he is SUCH a one-trick. And no, the garment wasn't really avant-garde. (Or "swanyay(?)," whatever, Duchess) But it was still a better concept than the Little-House-on-OxyContin thing Kit sent down the runway.
Anonymous 10:57 AM said... I have to say, I was excited when I initially heard the "bird's nest" comment. This could have been so cool - twisted fabric, natural elements, sparkly things - feathers and beads and eggs and construction. It could have been big and fantastic. Instead...it was boring and country.
Yeah, like something Bjork would wear to the Oscars! Instead we got a whickety-whack bridesmaid dress for one of the Ingalls girls, probably Mary, the blind one.
I think the Kit/Ricky RTW dress was doomed. Sure the dress was uninspired and rushed (like all were), but the calico fabric really sunk it.
I had picked her to win last week and thought I was the "Big Jinks".
I really was hoping to see "Mean P" come out and go off on Rami's uptight ass. And why did he think black pants would look good with a(nother) toga dress?
I was just thinking about how when Sweet P and Rami were paired up she was all excited and then Rami decided to pop a prick pill and be a tool.
I really like Sweet P, but I'm not sure she's got it in her to make it much longer.
Does anyone remember when Robert in season one made the final five despite being perhaps the shittiest designer on the show that season? And then, in the postal episode, the judges suddenly realized, "Wait a second, what the fuck are you still doing here?" and auf'ed him first chance they got, despite Wendy's design being way worse?
I predict such a future for Ricky. I think the judges were ready now, but Kit made it impossible for them to send anyone home but her.
I adore Kit. Hope she'll stop taking digs at Chris, though, as she does in her EW interview and in the Bonus "Holding Cell" video people have referenced above.
Also, agree with what others have said: The nest concept had such lovely potential as an avante-garde design: Canary-hued citrons, robins-egg blues, rich browns. And then .... this came out. Really, Kit seemed like she was sleepwalking through the whole episode. No fire! And it showed in her design. -- CAAF
Yeah, like something Bjork would wear to the Oscars! Instead we got a whickety-whack bridesmaid dress for one of the Ingalls girls, probably Mary, the blind one.
Number one: Kit and Ricky made two revolting dresses and Ricky makes me want to induce vomiting on myself.
Number two: Design a dress for Bjork needs to be a challenge. I mean, she has worn everything from a fluffy swan thing to a sequined portrait of Micheal Jackson.
I haven't been able to find that 'hold cell' video, and I have to say, for a TV network that bases so much of its schedule on design-themed shows, the design of that BRAVO website is for shit: Ugly, cluttered & hard to navigate.
That designer is one who should be auf'd (or slapped).
I haven't been able to find that 'hold cell' video, and I have to say, for a TV network that bases so much of its schedule on design-themed shows, the design of that BRAVO website is for shit: Ugly, cluttered & hard to navigate.
That designer is one who should be auf'd (or slapped).
OK-- Thanks to all of you, I finally get it now. Nesting in piles of blankets. Not birds nesting.
It probably still would have been the worst, but she really needed to go over the top and add a collar that looked like a pillow behind her head and maybe a stuffed animal (though she'd have to have made it). It would have been more literal and artistic.
Of course, even if she had done a fabulous job with a concept like "nesting" the judges would have hated it because the idea is so domestic and mundane. She was doomed from the beginning of her thought process.
It just didn't seem that the hairstyle went with the concept. Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but didn't Kit say she didn't want to work with the second model precisely because her hairstyle resembled a bird's nest? I don't get a pastoral/garden/bird's nest vibe from the primary model's hair at all. But I did like Kit and am sorry to see her go.
Kit's interview is really revealing--she distinguishes between "Avant Garde" and "Couture" very succinctly, and I do believe that the more "couture" looks were the winners, which showed what Avant garde means to the fashion industry, as opposed to the art world.
When, oh, when are people going to get it? Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count. And, realistically, how could it? The guest judges, unlike us, haven't seen all the previous garments and would have no basis for comparison. Also, unlike us, they haven't watched the backstage drama and so their opinions aren't colored by that.
In addition, in a team challenge, it's the team leader who is on the chopping block. We all know that.
This auf-ing was righteous. And I say that as someone who thinks Kit did some good work earlier.
"Thanks to a tip from our fierce hosts, T&Lo, head over to the PR website and find the bonus 'holding cell' video. Pay attention to Kit whispering; now we know that sweet innocent little kitty cat Kit has claws and she thinks that Chris should be thrown under the bus because he's been auf'd before. Not so nice..."
I just watched that video (it's in the bonus section under videos from season 4 on the Bravo TV website, gothamtomato), and it made me rethink things a bit.
While I am disappointed that Kit went home, I agree with the decision. I thought it was unfair of both her and Rami to say that their lack of success was due to their teammates.
I also thought Kit's comment that Chris should go because he was with a strong team leader and had already been auf'd was ridiculous! His work last week was top-notch. It's not his fault he was called back to the competition, and the other designers need to get over it and not hold it against him.
Finally, the video gave me a bit of perspective with regards to Ricky. He said that he's tired of being in the bottom and feeling like he doesn't belong here--if the judges hate his work so much, why don't they just say it? I think that's a good point. If they really think Ricky is that bad, why don't they just say he's not good enough and send him home? Why keep him hanging on each week, making him look like a "cockroach," as some have put it? If it's simply for "entertainment value," that's just wrong.
"When, oh, when are people going to get it? Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count. And, realistically, how could it? The guest judges, unlike us, haven't seen all the previous garments and would have no basis for comparison. Also, unlike us, they haven't watched the backstage drama and so their opinions aren't colored by that."
Unfortunately sweetie, many people in here will NEVER get that simple concept, but continue to whine about who is more deserving based on personality, "past performance", etc. etc.
I think T&L are spot on. This was the pivotal episode where everyone received carte blanche to create anything they wanted...and Little House on the Prairie is hardly fashion forward. Where is her punk edge.
I personally think that the judges are reserving Ricky for the time when they really good designers stumble and they can auf Ricky instead. They've taken out the low hanging foot (expect Ricky) and now are gong through the mid tier. At this point there are 3 questionable designers left - Sweet Pea, Rami and Ricky. I expect all 3 to be gone in the next 3 weeks.
However, if I was Ricky, I'd find an excuse to get off the show because the longer he is on tv, the more we hate him. He is going to have a tough time with his future career...but then again maybe he should go back to his old career, although it doesn't feel like he was good lingerie designer either because he's had many opportunities to create something lush, like Sweet Pea's prom dress. My theory is that he designs for Playtex...
I watched the show again last night and when Kit discusses her idea at the beginning it is clearly a stream of consciousness from the other model (the one with the big hair) looking like a birds nest to the general concept of "nesting." I think it is really clear that she went completely beyond "birds" to a more generic concept of nesting which led to the symbols of domesticity of apron and blankets. I almost think she was reflecting an unconscious wish to go home.
What is interesting is that her design concept and execution are so female in their symbolism, yet reflect ideas about femininity that are viewed as traditional and oppressive--the kitchen, the bed, and the hoop skirt.
"Does anyone remember when Robert in season one made the final five despite being perhaps the shittiest designer on the show that season? And then, in the postal episode, the judges suddenly realized, "Wait a second, what the fuck are you still doing here?" and auf'ed him first chance they got, despite Wendy's design being way worse?"
I'm convinced the judges are keeping Ricky around as "insurance" in case one of their chosen ones (Jillian, Rami Christian) ever falls into real danger. Then they can toss him off because he is clearly the weakest link and definitely expendable.
"Sorry to say this, (Yes, I'm shallow), but what I think annoys me most about Ricky is his hat. Why on earth does he wear one all the time?"
I know, right? What is so bad about the top of that man's head that he's got to hide it 100% of the time? Scabies? Bald? A bad perm? Another head? A malformed twin? More eyes that cry?
It's no worse than Rami's door knob head. (I'm sorry, that IS shallow. Somebody in a previous post gave us that brilliant analogy though, and it IS true. It is!)
I agree that it was Kit's idea so she should be the one to go. But I'm really sad since I like her designs (not the last one of course) and she seems like a really cool person, so I wish she didn't have to go.
Hubby and I think that it should matter how many times you've been in the bottom group. If it is a choice between two designers and one is consistantly in the bottom group, that should count againt them. Maybe that's the theory, but it seems like there have been designers that are in the bottom group week after week, but are always spared. Not fair!
I don't have any illusions that I am a fashion designers, but if Kit wanted a bird's nest idea, I think she should have gotten a bunch of twigs and sticks and made a skirt with those materials. Just a thought.
Poor Kit, I knew she would get the ax when she was paired with Ricky. If he had been team leader they probably would have done a double elimination. Re: Hoops being avant garde, both Westwood and John Gallianos have used them in rather imaginative ways in the past. Viv did a collection back in the mid 80's called "Mini Crinnie" that was my favorite ever collection. I loved the bird nest concept that Kit was working on, but the end product wasn't quite there. I don't blame Ricky for her elimination. But I do think the producers already know who they want in the final 3, so they have to get rid of the ones that might trump one of the favorites at the end.
i agree. at first i was shocked that they chose to send kit home over ricky, simply because she's produced better work than he has all season. but she is ultimately responsible for both garments. she designed both of them and approved them both for the runway.
ricky really was entirely drama-free this episode, did everything she asked of him, and made sure both the corset and the RTW dress fit perfectly. the fabric choices, the concept, the designs, those were all kit's responsibility.
also, after her comments in the holding cell video... i'm kinda not so sorry to see her go.
"I just wish these designers would stop talking shit about the other designers, especially in interviews."
I'm willing to give her a break. They're interviewing the designers who know they're on the bottom, presumably while those on the top are still on the runway. She was certainly gracious in her exit interviews once the axe had fallen.
Chris' resurrection seems to have stuck in everybody's craw. It's one of those unfair things that happen on reality shows, and in life, for that matter. I think it's easier for us to be comfortable with it because a lot of the fan base thought he never should have gone home on that challenge in the first place.
The dress was a mess, and weirdly for Kit, had no edge. There really was nothing else but for her to go home.
"dishes said: However, if I was Ricky, I'd find an excuse to get off the show because the longer he is on tv, the more we hate him. He is going to have a tough time with his future career."
I don't know what 'we' you're talking about, but I know that I certainly don't hate him.
I think he's actually quite likeable, and I haven't seen him be overtly nasty to the others, (as, for example, the angry little peanut was last season. THAT was someone who shot his career in the head).
I don't like Ricky's designs however, and I think, along with SweetP, he is at the bottom the those who remain. But I don't hate him.
I find it odd how these tribal lines fall for some posters.
The dress was horrible. An avant garde work pushes the known boundaries of acceptable fashion. I don't know how Kit thought layering aprons in calico would do that. She's a better designer than that.
What really pissed me off about the judges this week was letting Ricky off the runway before Sweet P. This implied that his design was a notch better than hers. That little gray dress was cute as a button and very wearable. Ricky's dress looked like it was made from flour sack cloth with no thought put into it at all.
While I think Kit is a much better designer than either Ricky or Sweet P, she was clearly a middle-of-the-pack performer. Nothing she did was particularly interesting to me. And she seemed pretty bland and vanilla, personality-wise. That's especially odd considering her edgy look. I think the reason so many people like her is because of her personal style which appeals to a lot of young people. But except for the Hershey's dress she never put much of that into her designs and she didn't really contribute anything memorable personality-wise. She was absolutely the right choice to go last night. (Ricky and Sweet P should have already been gone).
The nest concept could have been interesting and very avant garde. I'm thinking maybe use a modified, more elongated wicker or wooden hoop as the dress itself (almost like a dress form), maybe with a sheer layer of tulle over it and some amazing bodice. Also like Leslie's idea of using twigs in some way. She could also have used beautiful beads to look like eggs. Anyway, there are lots of clever things she could have done with this concept and instead she did something embarrassingly bad. Auf wiedersehen, baby!
"Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count."
If that were really true, they would have auf'd Christian last week. They are always keeping people based on past performance (Santino) but rarely auf them for it. Why is that?
I'm tired of Ricky, too, but this dog was all Kit.
snf in va said... "This looked like something I would have cobbled together for my dolls, out of scraps from Mama's many calico-craze sewing projects circa 1970."
I'm a quilter and the first thing I thought when I saw Kit's dress was, "She'd make a great quilter." But I also said to my husband, "Gone With the Wind Kitchen Wear--aprons and hoops!"
As much as I despise Ricky and his crocodile tears, I agree with TLo that he should not have gone home because of this mess, BUT HE STILL NEEDS TO GO HOME!!! Please, PR Gods, make it happen!!!!!!!!
When, oh, when are people going to get it? Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count.
It does count (we've heard the judges on many occasions complain about negative patterns in designers' work), has clearly counted on several occasions (remember the dress Chloe made in the last regular S2 challenge with seams directly around Grace's ass? Over Kara's plain but quite wearable one? Zero chance that decision would have been made if Chloe weren't a favorite), and should count, because refusing to consider established trends is unacceptable. If the judges don't send the real standouts of the show to Fashion Week, they aren't doing their jobs.
My particular beef with this week is not so much that Kit was chosen over Ricky, since she was team leader. My beef is that there are too many freakin' team challenges! The odds that Ricky could have survived an avant-garde or couture challenge working on his own are slim to none--it's what finally freed us of Vincent. Similarly, Chris clearly poured himself into his avant-garde design and scored a win for Christian, whose style is more clearly reflected in the throwaway ready-to-wear look.
Yes, Vanessa, you and I truly have the same awesome vibe! A Marie Antoinettey thing would have worked much better with her bird's nest Little Bo Beepy thing!
Bill thanks for the Little House pics, you consistently are fab!
The classic dilemma between logic (what should happen) and emotion (what I want to happen). Strangely enough, if Kit had been more literal in interpreting "bird's nest," she might have been more successful.
If Ricky manages to half-ass his way into the final five, I am going to have an ENORMOUS hissy-fit.
Not to nitpick ... well really ... only to nitpick. I truly believe past performance does not matter much to the judges. They do not care if you were top 3 / bottom 3 or what you made last week. Now they may remember if you bored them (Robert), or sent unfinished work down (Zulema) often ... and both Rob and Zu were eliminated in weeks in which they committed their sin AGAIN.
In other cases: (S1) Wendy stayed because Daniel Franco made a trash bag dress. Robert was kept around because he spoke well and designed moderately well. His elimination was more so because of zip-pants and wompy polo shirt than anything else. (S2) Santino stayed because Daniel Franco made repetitive and boring lingerie. He stayed later on because, while his work was often unfinished, it was seldom boring. (S3) Vincent's paper dress elongated his model, while Alison's did the opposite.
If anything, the judges took the past performance of Michael (S3) into account for the couture challenge, where he very well could have gone home.
i'm glad to see that other posters are making the point about kit's AG dress not having any real edge to it. this was an opportunity to really go wild and present something edgy and punk and over-the-top. to see that her mind did not even go there, but in the total opposite direction is a shame.
the whole thing could have been bright and colorful and animated. but she opted to use subtle colors and quaint fabrics on a fashion-backwards silhouette. all with less than perfect craftsmanship. it's almost baffling.
i only wish we had a better shot of the back of her dress, since that seemed to be where she was being most creative. any chance there's a picture of it floating around somewhere? i'm curious and would like a closer look.
I am not getting all the hate for Ricky. Because he is not the best designer on the show? Come on! We only like those who are the best at something? He obviously has talent or he wouldn't have made it on. I have to say I haven't loved anything he has produced but he seems like a nice guy. The only conflict he had was with VictorYA (and she was being super passive agressive). The crying is actually funny, IMO. I am just not getting the hate :) PS , T&L, The Alberta F. screencaps were some of your best work in a while
Finally, the video gave me a bit of perspective with regards to Ricky. He said that he's tired of being in the bottom and feeling like he doesn't belong here--if the judges hate his work so much, why don't they just say it? I think that's a good point. If they really think Ricky is that bad, why don't they just say he's not good enough and send him home? Why keep him hanging on each week, making him look like a "cockroach," as some have put it? If it's simply for "entertainment value," that's just wrong.
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I agree. It has to be difficult to be in Ricky's position-he doesn't get any positive feedback from the judges, and after all, it has been the judge's decision to keep him on the show.
I really wish Elisa was still around for this challenge, rather than Ricky. It would have been really interesting to see what she could have done for it.
Honestly, I hate Ricky as much as the next person (ok, hate is a strong word... I'm ANNOYED by Ricky's remaining as much as the next person), but hello, every team challenge means the team LEADER goes home. Ricky was smart and asked Kit to be leader.
I see Kit's idea, but it wasn't well executed. I loved the ribbon detail in the back, though.
I agree, cpk. Ricky seems like a nice guy. Some people are naturally more emotional than others. For all we know, Victorya is regularly crying on the inside.
I actually feel sorry for Ricky, as I said, after seeing that bonus "holding cell" video. I personally think it would suck to be kept on the show week after week, only to be told over and over that your designs are bad (though I'm not arguing that his work has been good). I'm sure he has talent...perhaps this just isn't his venue. Maybe confidence issues are hindering him.
And no, the garment wasn't really avant-garde. (Or "swanyay(?)," whatever, Duchess)"
soigné or soignée \swän-yā\ Function: adjective Etymology: French, from past participle of soigner to take care of 1 : well-groomed sleek 2 : elegantly maintained or designed (a soigné restaurant) (a soigné black dress)
Ricky is just coasting waiting for his auf, and talking, talking, talking all the time. He has never delivered. He should have had some opinions with Kit and not just always said "its her storyline" etc.. He was hiding behind the hoop skirt. Compare to when he worked with whats her name and always tried to butt in.
Kit blew it with her exit videos. Yeah right, they will realllllly think about you when the last 3 are in the final competition. Sure, it will be next year, Kit who? Get some context, you did not deliver enough to warrant staying on. Don't pull that tough-girl cred, we saw your high school photo, case closed.
i don't really think Kit's dress was all that bad. i thought the apron was sorta weird but i see how she got the hoop skirt to go with the hair. to me it wasn't any worse than Rami's design. Ricky's lame ass dress, however, was lame. ass. period. At least kit's dress was creatively inspired. there was nothing inspirational in ricky's lame. ass. dress. goodbye ricky. period.
Ricky sure was taking charge when they started the challenge. He told the model that they weren't using her and she could just sit down. I thought that was extremely Lucy Van Pelt of him.
Hello Babies... As I said in my blog, the AG dress reminds me of something in my home country, Mexico. We have these "Sweet Fifteen" parties for girls called Quinceaneras. This dress was what a girl from an extremely low income family would have her mother make her out of Jo-Ann Fabrics remnants for her very sad Quinceanera party. I feel bad for Marie for having to wear it because I just love her, and she is awesome. The RTW dress was 1st semester Apparel Contruction or HS home ec. Take your pic. I can see the rationale behind the Kit auffing, but I can also see how because of the cumulative body of work, people want Ricky's head on a stick. I tend to side with the second group because I think that Kit could have shown something intersting in upcoming challenges. IMHO. Love you angels, Milla
"whodat said... I really wish Elisa was still around for this challenge"
I was thinking the same thing. But this again, is where the luck of the draw falls into play.
If you're one of the designers, I guess you have to hope that the challenges that will best show your talent come up at the top of the order, instead of the ones that will expose your shortcomings.
I too think the judges take past performance into consideration when they want to. That's why it's frustrating that Ricky's still here. If Chris's aufing had stuck, we'd never have seen his Hershey's dress, his prom dress, or the Winged Victory dress. That's why they should take past performance into consideration. Is there anything Ricky's designed that we'd have been sorry to miss?
As for Kit, this was a huge misstep. Both dresses were doomed by the fabric choices. To come from someone who believes she does funky, edgy work, these dresses were the surprising opposite in every way. A more talented designer than Ricky might have been able to steer her away from disaster. So the curse lives on, but I'm not sure I'd blame TLo.
Okay I just watched the "Holding Cell" video. I didn't think what Kit said about Chris was that bad. Of course all the designers that get auf'ed before him are going to feel a little bitter and what she said wasn't all that bitter. She's right about it not being fair. Its not as if she said he was an untalented asshole. I do feel a bit bad for Ricky. I think they are fucking with his head and the other designers as well by calling him out but keeping him on. The producers are manipulating the designers and viewers.
I'm sorry, I will say it one more time, Kit's dress was very CONCEPTUAL, only she was not trying to make a birds nest, she was trying to evoke "nesting" as in domesticity.
Unfortunately, it just wasn't couture or soignee or at all sophisticated (unless she was being ironic about women in the kitchen and the bedroom, which I don't think she was).
I just don't think this sort of idea evokes anything fashionable, and even though it could be HIGH CONCEPT it could not be AVANT GARDE unless it was sardonic or a political statement. Avant Garde is the opposite of homey and domestic.
No, youse guys are wrong this time. Kit was the leader and made some bad choices. Ricky kept his mouth shut and let her slip under the bus. He's the smart one for that. No way was his head getting axed by leading.
Then he made that, that, that little babydoll dress. Again.
No! Rickey should have been sent home for simply not existing in this episode.
I feel like i'm the only one that did not find Kit's Dress to not fulfill the challenge. From what I saw, her model's hairstyle was an exaggeration of the stereotypical 1950's homemaker and that the dress that she designed was an exaggerated version of the apron dress that was the typical uniform of the homemaker at the time.
People have been saying that this dress is not avant garde. I disagree, I think her use of the fabrics that she picked which were clearly day time fabrics, into a hoopskirted evening look was unorthodox, and intentional. The work on the back of the dress should have been on the front, though it was still tactile, interesting and different. Besides Jill's, I felt that Kit's design was the only that seemed truly inspired by her model's hair.
In regards to the other designers, Christian's had seemingly no connection to the hair style other than the fact that both were pretty. His dress was not very original and felt derivative of Galliano, and Mcqueen who have shown better executed versions of this dress within the last year. Rami's also had seemingly nothing to do with his hairstyle, the pants he choose to make were all wrong and the dress looked like an ugly deconstructed Versace gown. I give Jillian and Victorya credit for designing a look that seemed inspired by their model's hair but their garments felt as derivative of London high fashion as Christian's. In conclusion I think that Rami was clearly the person who should have been auf'd.
It still sucks, crappy dress, but at least it has a point of view, compared to the crappy shit Ricky sew. If you say Kit's dress looks like old linen, Ricky's dress looks like basic sewing class project. Come on! She was the team leader and she made a lot of decissions, but it was clear that he just sat down, followed orders thinking "hmm she is team leader so she is responsible if we fail, so this is my time to take a break". Yet again, he got a shot to do something and did that freaking cheap dress. What the f.? Did the judges forgot that Ricky is always on the bottom? They should have given Kit another chance...
"Unfortunately sweetie, many people in here will NEVER get that simple concept, but continue to whine about who is more deserving based on personality, "past performance", etc. etc.
There simply is no accounting for dimness."
Oh Grrrrrl! Truer words were never spoken.
Now, if this were the Olympics, Dick Buttons would say ...
I think you and I are seeing similar things--and as soon as I looked at it as symbolic of traditional female symbols of domesticity, the whole thing looked completely conceptual. I just think her concept would never make it with the judges. I think it would work better as conceptual art than as fashion.
Vanessa
ZevS said... From what I saw, her model's hairstyle was an exaggeration of the stereotypical 1950's homemaker and that the dress that she designed was an exaggerated version of the apron dress that was the typical uniform of the homemaker at the time.
"Santino stayed because Daniel Franco made repetitive and boring lingerie. He stayed later on because, while his work was often unfinished, it was seldom boring." --------------------------
Ricky's work is consistently BORING, REPETITIVE, unoriginal and poorly constructed.
He makes that same stupid baby doll dress over and over again. Unlike Jeffrey or Santino, Ricky does not even have a strong "point of view" or design aesthetic.
Ricky is boring. He has failed to produce even one exceptional outfit. They called Robert boring? At least he had that fabulous first dress. Ricky has NOTHING to show for himself. NOTHING.
The worst part about team challenges is that last week, TLo had to do nine separate entries about the designers' work, and this week, we only get four. What am I supposed to do with that extra time? Work?
The "Holding Cell" clip makes Rami look even more like a tool. The problem with his gown is that he designed a Rami gown with dumb pants - that was HIS design. Sweet P, and working in a team, wasn't the problem. Execution wasn't the problem with the dress Rami made - it was just dumb and looked like everything else he's done. Take some f*cking responsibility.
I'm bothered that Kit and others are suggesting that Christian did all the work and Chris "only" did the headdress. Without that massive wing/thing, that would have been an interesting, ruffly dress. Without the interesting, ruffly dress, it would have just been a crazy headdress. BOTH pieces required a lot of skill and talent. And what WAS Kit's point about Chris? That he should automatically be auf'd when someone has to go, because he went before? I feel bad for Chris, getting all this shit from the other designers. He got a lucky break for sure, in coming back - but he's had to pull his own weight (metaphorically) since then, just like the rest of them.
Bah.
and Kit's dress was sort of pretty, in a laura ashley sweet summer little girl kind of way. I like the interpretation people have proposed here - a takeoff on domesticity, etc etc. but i don't think that was really there ENOUGH.
Thank you for uploading the "Holding Cell" video, TLo. Gee, I don't know everybody I watch one of those interviews I get a bit disappointed with those designers. Sometimes a little too full of themselves...
I think Kit's comment about Chris is kinda shitty. They need to leave the jealousy at home. Chris didn't ask to be brought back. It was Jack and his medical condition that led to that. Since he has came back, he has made great outfits except for the one he came back on and since he came in the middle of that challenge, I don't think he should get too much flak for that.
Her logic is flawed, that Chris should go because he was already auf'd. It's ridiculous and now I am glad she got sent home. What a poor sport she is.
Okay, I'm going to sound like a tasteless weirdo here, but I really, really liked the crazy curtains-and-bedding hoop dress. It struck me as having Kit's personality and a lot of bright colors and just being ... wacky. The kind of thing you can't do in real life, but you can do for, say, a costume party.
I just thought it was breathtaking, really. And I usually don't adore the auf'd designs, you know?
Regardless, this season has gone horribly awry. They've gotten rid of Kevin and Kit -- and I was sorry to see Elisa go, though it was time -- but they've managed to hang on to a few questionable designers and a whole herd of bitches. Seriously, I'm now imagining a giant catfight between Rami, Victorya, and Jillian. Sweet P could kick all their asses, but she'd sit this one out and eat popcorn whilst watching the fun with Chris. Christian wouldn't be invited to the catfight, but he'd be sure to draw attention to himself anyway, probably wearing a cape and jumping around screaming, "I am so FIERCE!"
PS. Don't tell anyone, because I'd probably scratch his eyes out if I ever met him in real life, but Christian is sort of growing on me.
Well I read (on here actually) that VictorYa gets auf'd ( I don't know when) but that she gets so mad and storms off the set. It takes 3 hours to find her to complete the taping. If that is true it will be awesome. I hope she goes home next.
I hope the final 4 are Chris, Christian, Rami and Jillian. Even though I don't like Jillian, I don't know who else could make it that far. The next challenge they are [edited by the administrator]. So it should be interesting to see who falls on their face. Maybe Rami? Maybe this is the one that gets VictorYA.
I actually like the apron-print idea. She should've piled on layers and layers and layers of the fabric. Really gone overboard with the layers. Or ripped up the fabric. Or dirtied the fabric. An unfortunate gardening accident! Poured cows's blood on it. Something. Anything.
zevs said... ...From what I saw, her model's hairstyle was an exaggeration of the stereotypical 1950's homemaker and that the dress that she designed was an exaggerated version of the apron dress that was the typical uniform of the homemaker at the time.
Thank you for helping me see Kit's garment in the context of nesting as domesticity. I have a real prejudice against hoop skirts and all they symbolize and was kind of nonplused by the garment. (I did a non-wearable art piece called, "Shroud for the Perfect Housewife" as a way of expressing the trap of fighting dirt all one's life and then being buried in it when dead, so you can see this has been on my mind.)
Kim's piece is an interesting take and while I don't think it met the challenge from an execution perspective, I do appreciate your take on her take on women's roles. What if the dress had been composed of numerous over-the-top aprons? Might have been interesting.
Desertwind! Get out of my head. Sounds like our apron ideas, with the possible exception of the cow's blood" could have been just the ticket. I am actually thinking of reworking my piece into an apron as a result of this discussion.
has anyone else googled "bird nest dress"? Yes, I was dorky enough to do it and I found a lovely illustration that just might have been a winning idea for Kit (even though she's now on my shit list for dissing Sissy) if she'd constructed some nests out of ribbon or wire or something. And then if she'd pushed the color up a notch or twenty...
Anyhow, just goes to show what you can find online if you google
I'm not sure anymore if the producers keep Ricki around for pure drama. He's been pretty low key lately, really not adding anything entertaining at all.
Given Ricki's less fortunate background, I think that the producers have taken him on as a pet project from the get go.
Here's my prediction for Ricky: He will be kept around long enough to participate in a fabulous trip abroad. Where he will be auf'd. However, Ricki will be so overcome by having been able to travel to a fancy overseas location, that the blow to have been auf'd will be a soft one.
Ricki will be deeply grateful to have come so far, and the producers will feel good. Have a little heart, people.
I liken these reality elimination TV competitions to bronco rodeos. Not only for the contestants, but for the viewers too. Who knows what unforeseen circumstances will lead to someone getting bucked off of that horse? So I figure no sense getting upset about who stays or goes. It's all part of the ride. I like rollercoasters! :-D
I am *really* tired of the designers Chris-bashing and gnashing their peroxided teeth about him being brought back.
It's not like he *asked* to be brought back. It's not like he *blackmailed* anyone to come back. It's not like he *threatened* to sue Bravo to get back on.
He was asked.
And any friggin' designer who says if they were in his shoes, they wouldn't have come back "on principle" are lyin' sacks o' flannel scraps.
Kit's dress: no. It sucked and she deserved to go. Ricky? Total bystander seamster this week - but that doesn't warrant aufing over Kit.
I didn't get the birds nest association with the hair do, but if that's the direction she wanted to take us then there was so much she could've done. Branches, birds, leaves...birds coming out of the pockets.... whatever, it's over.
Sorry to see her go. She was one of my faves, though I noticed the little apron/pinafore strap schtick was showing up over and over again.
I think she's going to be really big. I really love her work.
Ricky should have gone by now, but just imagine the meltdown he will have when it happens. He is an emotional train wreck. There are great meds out now for people with anxiety disorders (moi!) these make you able to deal with life and pressure without crying like a tiny little tittie-baby! I think Christian is too cocky and obnoxious, but at least he is not weeping at every turn!
Hmmm...I finally saw the bonus video: Given what Kit said, and Jack said earlier, I guess there was some resentment towards Chris that we didn't see on the show. It looked like they were all cheering when he came back, but I guess they didn't realize that he'd be competing with them again.
While I can understand how the shifting sands annoyed them, I know that with other game shows, it is in the agreement you sign, that you are informed that the producers have the option of bringing back previously eliminated contestants. I'd think that Bravo has the same sort of disclosure in their contestant agreements.
And the reality there is, not a one of them would not have grabbed the opportunity to come back, and run with it.
What everyone else said. It's not so much that we think Ricky deserved to be auf'ed for this challenge -- Kit was the team leader, the AG design idea was hers, etc. etc. But I (and quite a few others, apparently) do think that Ricky should not even have been there at this point in the competition. Maybe Kit would have worked better with a better partner. Or maybe not. But it does seem diply unfair that Ricky is still standing after Kit, Kevin and Elisa have fallen. Like wrong in some cosmic way. Sew wrong, as Heidi might say.
Gotham Tomato said: "Given what Kit said, and Jack said earlier, I guess there was some resentment towards Chris that we didn't see on the show. It looked like they were all cheering when he came back, but I guess they didn't realize that he'd be competing with them again." That's so true. They probably thought it was like season one when Robbio came back to "help" them. They need to get over it. Big time.
Gads! The moment Kit said "hoop skirt" I had the feeling she'd doomed herself. (well that, and having Ricky-the-not-so-out-of-the-box-thinker as a partner for Avant Garde)
Floor-length-hoop-skirts don't Glide or Float down the runway...they GALLOOP~ ~and wallomph and ker-chunkity-chunk. (think Snuffalufagus from Sesame Street)
It's impossible for the model to walk without lifting the architecture which only adds to it's UN-appeal.
Additionally, her interpretation of that hairstyle as relating to a bird's nest just leaves me befuddled. It was floaty and poofy in a cloud-like way. An Avant-G dress could have been built in poofed sheer blues, layer upon layer...and she could have kept the damn hoop-skirt and made it work.
The RTW dress was pure arse. It might as well have been made from those little packets of lemon-lysol hand-sanitizing-towelettes ...it was THAT 'chip'. (TLo, you're brilliant)
Poor Kit, I really thought she was a Dark Horse contender. I'm not as miffed as others are about her comments. It's a fierce competition and it was clear that she wanted to be on Team Christian. I wish her well.
When I saw her hairstyle inspiration, I though "Wwwwwoooooo... '20s or '30s wackitry could happen!" And it's very au courant according to the fashion mags, apparently.
Jesus. It was crap, though. And I would really like to know if Ricky had *any* idea other than 'agree with anything Kit says 'cause she'll either do good or do dodo.'
Anonymous [5:13 PM] said... Here's my prediction for Ricky: He will be kept around long enough to participate in a fabulous trip abroad. Where he will be auf'd.
My prediction is that the producers will finally get fed up with the tears and throw 'Weepin Willy' out of the moving PR van in Hoboken, NJ. Without carfare home.
How sad is it that this was the silhouette of my prom dress???? Sure, my fabric choice was a brocade baby blue polyester satin with nasty white lace trim, but the end result in comparison was just as tragic.
I've got to jump on the bandwagon with those appreciating Kit's concept in this dress. With better execution, this could have been incredible. To whoever mentioned layers and layers of aprons, that's exactly what I thought when she and Ricky were planning the dress! I also totally dug the old-timey grandma fabric, but there needed to be MORE. Of everything. Tons of different prints juxtaposed with brighter colors, tons of aprons of different lengths. It should have been a carefully-constructed chaotic mess. As for the hoop skirt, I think a little asymmetry would have made the dress more visually interesting. Perhaps only have a half or quarter hoop, and expose the construction of it. Ah, if only!
Not much to say for Ricky's garment. This whole thing reminded me of the Daniel Franco lingerie entry. Just...no.
Kit is covering up her bland personality by wearing hip clothing, but the blandness caught up with her. She wasn't a shitty designer, but she had no personality and no vision.
Thank you, Gotham Tomato, for expressing in a clear and rational manner the sentiments I have concerning the re-instatement of Chris.
I couldn't have said it nearly so well because I'm still steaming about the bonus video and what appeared to be a big ol' self-entitled wah-wah-wah whineFest from both Kit and Rami. Two talented designers who were fortunate enough to be showcased on national television.
We've had the discussion about competition 'come-backs' before on this blog when Angela & Vincent were resurrected. To be succinct: Them's the rules. Life isn't fair, and this isn't even life, it's a reality show.
But the Kitten's whining in this video and in the ET interview have definitely interfered with my sympathy for her auf'ing. And, for the same reason, I eagerly await Rami's farewell.
Which is childish. Because people aren't perfect, and this isn't life, it's a reality show. My likes and dislikes of the designers on this show are based on sound bites and video snippets pieced together to elicit reaction.
So, forced to see the "real" reality (what's the classical reference: god with clay feet?), I've reluctantly lost a little bit of the "rah rah" for these designers in general. Too bad...I totally agree with the earlier post: it was more fun before they started opening their mouths...
For everyone bitching about it now, do recall that when Tim brought him back into the workroom, everyone applauded and cheered and talked about how happy they were he was back. It was only when he started kicking ass that the snipes popped up.
Bottom line, he made a better dress than Kit. She can cattily whisper whatever she wants, but them's the breaks.
2. THE HOOP SKIRT
Am I crazy, or would Kit's dress have looked way better without the hoops?
3. RICKY'S AUFING
The best thing about Kit's dress was the corset, which Ricky constructed. He didn't deserve the boot. Not this week, at least.
4. JILLIAN'S "FREAK OUT"
How cute is she? I love it when she "freaks out", and you only know she's "freaking out" because she calmly says to the camera.
To those who see Kit's design as her take on "domesticity", well, that's a nice spin, but she said explicitly that she was thinking "bird's nest", and "garden". If she had said, "I'm thinking about the bed/home as a nest", it would still have been a horrid garment, but it would have connected, at least vaguely, with the concept. But she didn't say that.
Yay Alex! Not only a talented cartoonist but capable of summing up the major points of this episode succintly! PS. I too love it when Jillian has her "freak outs"
What a lady! Her exit videos could not be more poised, gracious, and well-spoken. What design company wouldn't want such a stable, healthy, intelligent person working for them?
"lilithcat said: If she had said, "I'm thinking about the bed/home as a nest", it would still have been a horrid garment, but it would have connected, at least vaguely, with the concept. But she didn't say that."
Actually, ever since I saw that dress, the other night, I've had this song in my head, but I cannot remember the title.
But it's an old Italian song that has a line like, 'Lazy Mary, you gotta get up, we need the sheets for the table.'
I'm sad to see Kit go, because I actually liked quite a lot of her designs. And, while she's not dramatic, I didn't think she was dull either. She just seemed very down to earth, which I enjoyed.
About Chris, I don't understand why there isn't any sympathy for the designers who have been cut after his return. I mean, I really like Chris, and I think he's a good designer. But it isn't hard for me to put myself in the other designers shoes and think that he got a break no one else did, through no merit of his own. It was just luck. And the designers are just sad and frustrated that they didn't get the same break. I don't think it's any true, evil animosity against Chris.
I don't know why anyone obsesses too much over who wins this thing. The exposure on the show is all that really matters, and anyone but the first two eliminated gets enough TV time to benefit from this show. Winning means nothing, really. It certainly doesn't mean the winner is the best.
Ricky, however, has no business still being in this competition. Every outfit he has made since the first show has been the same silly little baby doll lingerie dress. Nothing special or interesting about ANY of them.
I kind of do think Kit has it out for Chris. In the EW interview she raves about her candy dress while saying "Chris only used pillows" (which is not true). She needs to get over it. Her exit interviews cast her in an unfavorable light. I honestly don't think she had the talent to go all the way. Chris does. Jealous much?
Hmmm. Now I am wondering whether the big cheer when Chris returned really translated to, "Hooray! They'll kick him off again this challenge, and the rest of us are safe! YAY CHRIS! Come on back for a brief visit, big guy!"
Has anyone ever seen Ricky's work before the show. Does he have an online portfolio? I cannot believe that someone like him made it on this show!! He is exceptionally boring and untalented. There is nothing remotely remarkable, distinct or interesting about his work. Why was he cast for this show? He is such dead weight. His only contribution has been acting as the season cockroach.
To those who see Kit's design as her take on "domesticity", well, that's a nice spin, but she said explicitly that she was thinking "bird's nest", and "garden". If she had said, "I'm thinking about the bed/home as a nest", it would still have been a horrid garment, but it would have connected, at least vaguely, with the concept. But she didn't say that.
Couldn't agree more! Commenters keep saying that she was talking about nesting and domesticity, but it was clear that she mentioned a bird's nest and gardens - thus the flowery prints.
I am sorry we won't get to see what Kit could've done had she stuck around.
I am kind of obsessing over why people think Kit should have stayed and Ricky gone home. Their whole project was fugly and they both participated. But it was her idea, her design, her choice of fabrics (for the ready to wear too) and all team leaders were up for immunity or aufing UNLESS the other team member had effed up terribly, which Ricky did not. I think all Ricky was guilty of was putting his head down and getting on with his work, secretly glad Kit wanted to be leader. BFD. I am sooooooooooooo over the whole Kit was robbed. Her stuff has been pretty average (sorry TLo I never felt the love for the prom dress) and this dress was a)hideous and b)not avant garde. It looked like a costume from an amateur theater company. Irrespective of how mean I think Kit's exit comments (on Bravo, EW) have been and how that makes me think she deserves her aufing, this competition is about the challenges and she messed up big time.
The only thing that really bothers me about Kit's comments is that she seems to think Chris contributed nothing to that amazing dress. Come ON. That design was at least 2/3 Chris and 1/3 Christian, so I'm kind of baffled. It's terrible that Chris has become the other guys' whipping boy. All he did was show up with his A game. None of these interviews would have mentioned his name if he'd only lasted another week.
I thought Kit was fantastic and couldn't get enough of her. She didn't come off bitchy to me so much as, y'know, human. Everyone has their moments of pettiness. Sometimes we have the wisdom to recognize and regret them, sometimes we don't. They're in a high stakes competition, one in which Chris poses a clear threat. And let's keep things in perspective. Compared to Jack's virtual Anti-Chris campaign, Kit's snippish little asides were nothing.
Sweet P is a flake. a hot mess. I would of pushed her to wake up and move it too if I got stuck with her. The team leader is always at stake. Would you panic if you got Christian or Sweet P???? Ramie saved himself.
I agree with anonymous 9:45 am up there -- it WAS more fun before we got all the "extras". I don't enjoy having my illusions about the "characters" created by Bravo shattered, so I don't usually watch the exit videos or the behind-the-scenes stuff. I know that means I'm missing some good stuff (although I also know I'll hear about it all here), but I'm happy to do without listening to the bitter bitter bitterness. Kit's televised exit from the show was gracious and low-key; I want to remember her like that. (Hee hee -- it sounds like I'm giving her eulogy. Like Alison last year, she's GONE, GONE FOREVER, SOB, don't you know.)
I guess I like my reality a little less real.
And guys! Post! Please? You don't want to force me to add comments to this thread forever, do you? I didn't think so. :)
Im not pissed at Ricky for Kit going home, I'm pissed that Ricky didn't go home.
He made the little dress, and the judges said that everything about it looks amateur. Better to make one judgement mistake than to have poor technique.
Apparently there is much hate for this design but I am guessing people have never heard of or seen Lacroix? I hope Kit has an amazing future she is better than Project Runway. This was a good show and now has jumped the shark with this season.
When I heard her say bird's nest I was looking forward to something remarkable. I've made my share of sculptural nests and I've found some in the wild made with unusual materials: horse hair, lawn-chair filaments,grape vine(birds can be pretty resourceful.) I was thoroughly disappointed with what Kit came up with. The ribbony tangle at the back was sort-of-pretty but not reminiscent of a bird's nest. Sad to say, but she most deserved to go. It could have been wild and elegant, instead it was homely. Thanks for the forum. Dale.
Bird's nest dress, huh? What if she had inverted the back of the hoop (perhaps with an underdress so the model's undies wouldn't be the back view? Essentially there would have been a big nest framing the model as she walked the runway. This is not a fully developed idea, but it would have been more avant-garde than what was actually created.
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't hate Ricky or his crying. I thought he was a very decent teammate and in lieu of the circumstances, Rami should have went home for his inability to 1) follow the challenge; 2) put out something different than what we see every week and; 3) work constructively with someone else.
If there were only team leaders to be at risk of aufing, Kit is only guilty of #1 between the two of them. Kit didn't made excuses for her work ("but Tim, you've never seen me do a corset!") or throw her partner under a bus. I am pretty sad right now for Kit :(
Ninjarina: I agree with you. I rewatched the episode, and I feel that, although I wasn't crazy about Kit's design, at least she had a vision and took some risks. Rami did same old, same old, and he was a lousy team leader on top of it. I think the judges definitely took *his* past performance into consideration when deciding who to send home. It was his two past wins that saved him, not what he did in this particular challenge. IMO.
Miss Tears A Lot's dress was bad, but it was Kit's vision that ultimately got her auf'd. If Ricky got auf'd for the secondary outfit, then Sweet P could have won for hers even though that's not how it was judged. The AG dress is the one that got judged more.
Kit's "middle of the pack role" also didn't help since she didn't stand out in previous challenges one way or the other.
You can take the girl out of the OC, but you can't take all the OC out of the girl. Retract those claws, Kit.
FCOL, who is Ricky DOING backstage? I cannot believe the crybaby slithered safe once again, sending another (much) more talented designer home!
There is NO WAY I would ever be stuck on a team with Crazy Ricky without forcing him to be team leader, then not listening to him at all. At least he'd take the fall when his talentless, boring baby doll gowns got dissed on the runway.
See? We point out that a talented designer isn't getting any love from the judges and what happens? What ALWAYS HAPPENS?
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I understand why Kit went home, but personally I thought Rami deserved the auf. His design was derivative of everything he's done so far, it was the least dramatic avant-garde thing on the runway, and he proved himself to not be a good team player.
Kit's was bad, sure, but at least you could ...kind of see her point of view, and worked with Ricky well.
But of course, Rami > Kit in the judges eyes. Sigh.
she was going for the Holly Hobby ragamuffin look with her fabrics. yes, girl in gardin, retro bed sheet patterns. it's supposed to be "indie chic." certainly, her look was more avant garde than Rami's.
and i love how the judges come to the conclusion that the poor construction has nothing to do with these insane time constraints. "it looks rushed." well, no shit.
I'm ok with her going home. What was her intent with this dress? What was her name again? What did she show in the other cometitions? Blank, blank, blank.
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While the outfits she designed last episode were bizarre and underwhelming, the outfit she wore was bizarre and awesome.
Way to show off those gams, Debbie Reynolds!
I think she's talented and could have shown us some interesting stuff, but it's getting to that point in the season where everyone needs to have their A game going.
And last episode was a perfect chance to show the judges what the designers are capable of. Kit dropped the ball like Lucy Van Pelt in the outfield.
Charlie Brown is screaming "AAAAUUUGH!!" on the pitcher's mound right now.
true.
I thought the back of the dress was gorgeous, and I just loved Kit.
Maybe if those hoops had been put to better use this would have had a chance.
This season is keeping me grouchy; yet I can't tear myself away...
-R
I think that the two bottom-rung teams just didn't *get* what this challenge was about.
This looked like something I would have cobbled together for my dolls, out of scraps from Mama's many calico-craze sewing projects circa 1970.
Mercy!
by the way... I love the irony of the underrated ex-deb bridesmaid creating what could be interpreted as the ultimate fug bridesmaid dress.
-R
I think Kit is a good designer, but the whole season she pretty much flew under the radar. I think that hurt her when she did finally make something disastrous - there was no amazing design for the judges/producers to remember lovingly and make them give her another shot.
I understand why she went home, but I wanted Ricky to go home because his past work was crap and because he made the RTW dress, which was crap.
I know, I know she designed the major dress which did suck. Like Laura Ingalls Wilder on crack. But I liked Kit and between the two of them, Ricky should have gone home.
Thanks to a tip from our fierce hosts, T&Lo, head over to the PR website and find the bonus 'holding cell' video. Pay attention to Kit whispering; now we know that sweet innocent little kitty cat Kit has claws and she thinks that Chris should be thrown under the bus because he's been auf'd before. Not so nice...
As for the team Kit garments, the couture look was fugly like a Desperate Housewives hostess on crack, and the RTW look looked like it was snatched from the final markdown rack at Loehmann's. No, sorry, that would be an insult to Loehmann's.
Ricky oughta give up sewing satin, because apparently, he can't.
This whole thing was NEVER a good idea. So Sorry, Kit-ty Winkie, it's curtains for you!
Well, really good points all around. My problem in general with Kit going home is that she is a better designer than Ricky or Sweet Pea, and appears to have more range than Rami. I would have liked to see any of those 3 go first.
But you're right. The nature of the game is that the designers are judged from challenge to challenge. Not that it actually always happens that way in the judges convoluted little worlds.
Everybody's got to go home eventually. Except for Chris and Christian of course.
Kit's interview with entertainment weekly brings up a very interesting point from a competetion stand point.
Kit's interview
I never thought about the disadavantage of being mostly in the middle of pack
Frank
People are mad about Ricky not going home because they like Kit so much. It's kind of like how Laura was all pissed off at Vincent when Alison got sent home.
As for that Gone with the Wind monstrosity. Well. If a bird's nest is your inspiration, there are so many ways to go that are truly avant garde. You know, like maybe a dress that looks like a bird's nest. Invert the hoop skirt, make it monochromatic, whatever, and make the bodice in the color of a canary or a cardinal. It could have been over the top and amazing.
For once this season, I agree with Nina: What was Kit thinking?
There are a miraid of looks you can acheive with a hoop skirt and this one just went off the track. BUT it WAS something completely different and out of Kit's comfort zone.
Between the two, Rami should have been chased off the runway for sending down another Sari inspired draped "wonder". UGH. How many more will we have to endure before he is finally kicked off the runway? Its like Angela with her shitty fabric flowers.
And what does the man have against the left boob? Was he breastfed only from the right or something?
I hope Kit will go far in her career. She's a great designer and did NOT deserve to be auf'd this week.....I hope she remembers her muse for this challenge and thinks, "after all, tomorrow is another day".....
I agree with you, boys. And I feel like I'M the reason these designers are going home. For the past 2 weeks in the Fantasy Runway, I have picked Kevin and Kit to win. And they've both gone home. I feel like I should stop voting on the Fantasy game, because I'll curse whomever I pick. Or I should reverse my strategy! Pick Ricky to win, and he'll get auf'd.
Anyway, Kit's dress was horrific, and she was the obvious choice to go home. Sorry, Kit. That dress was FUG. And in no way did it fulfill the spirit of the challenge.
I liked the idea they were going for, but I thought there were going to be "nests" sort of all over the skirt, as though the layers of fabric had been twirled like pasta into more literal nests and blooms.
I feel like Rami should have gone...he look was the same thing he always does, he REALLY needs to learn about leading people, and his look didn't strike me as avant garde at all....I'll bite my tongue until we get there, though.
hahahaaha...i'll bet Ricky's going to win it this year.
OK, fine when you put it that way, I AM compelled to agree that Kit deserved the auf over Ricky (goddam well-reasoned arguments with stunning visual proof). But I still want him gone...five weeks ago.
I do understand why Kit went home, as she didn't seem to truly understand the concept of avant garde. I also didn't see that the birds-nest idea came across at all in the finished design. If Kit had thought about what bird nests look like, she and Ricky could have developed something very cool- birds nests can be tightly woven, cuplike in shape, or they can be more loosely structured, and can contain different types of materials-grasses, twigs, feathers, etc. So, if a designer thought about it, it could be quite avant garde.
I'll still miss Kit.
I actually loved the little spectrum of color in the back of Kit's avant garde dress, actually reminded me a little bit of Jay's dark red dress from fashion week, but the rest of the garment made me feel awkward. I just don't like Ricky - I think he should have gone home last week, think how interesting a kevin/kit dress would have been... maybe they would have been praised for once.
Thanks for saying that. It's getting annoying to wade through all the illogical posts about how Ricky should have been sent home. True, he didn't seem to contribute much creatively, but that is not the primary reason for their failure.
Kit explained (I think in the Burning Questions blog) that she was not thinking about couture. She started from a concept for a photo shoot to showcase the hair. She said she got sidetracked from the purpose of the show -- clothing design -- and didn't realize her mistake until it was too late.
I like Kit and I'm sorry to see her go.
This thing could have been great. But the only thing that could have saved it was if Rami had walked along side it in a towel.
What I feel badly for for Kit is that she never got credit for what she did well. Sure, she got some kudos for menswear, but her first dress was interesting and really well made. I wasn't thrilled with the fabrics, but that might have been wore about what was put in the tents and what she found and was willing to fight over.
And one of the best things on the runway this season was her fashion retread dress, which was completely ignored. That dress she did with the team was incredible and beautifully executed, and it fit Marie (one of the best models this season, I'd say) wonderfully.
And her Bitten outfit was really cute. A nice casual shirt with leggings. I'm not thrilled with leggings in any design, but that top would work on so many bodies and with the right pants, accessories it would even make a good casual Friday look.
Her dress for the makeover challenge was okay- not great. It looked well made, fit her client's personality. The fabrics were the worst part of it, which was the result of the challenge and not her choices.
And I liked her prom dress.
It just seems so sad that the first real attention she gets in the season (minus the menswear) is to call her out on the garment that didn't work.
Kit, I'll miss ya. BUt you know, at least she went out on the high road. And that of course is the kiss of death.
While I didn't care for her designs throughout the competition (that's just personal taste), kudos to Kit for her dignified exit interview. She's accepts and takes responsibility for her aufing, and that seems rare. Brava, Kit.
The AG dress was a trainwreck. And the RTW was even worse. At least Kit got sent home for something truly heinous. Kevin was unfairly sent home for something that looked pretty decent.
Ricky's RTW dress was so basic, uninspired, and FUGLY that the judges were speechlesss. "Amateur" did not even begin to describe it. Can anyone remember when such a bad designer made it this far in PR? I don't think Vincent was close to being this bad.
I agree completely. If you're going to judge on a challenge by challenge basis, Kit was the right person to auf. Even in the RTW dress, the biggest problem was the fabric, which Kit chose. I would have loved to see her stick around longer, but she seriously sucked this challenge.
"It's chip. It's chip in a chip way."
Thank you, Alberta! That was very dip.
Cannot stop laughing!! You guys are hilarious!
I thought the bedsheet fabric was a deliberate tie-in to her nesting concept. like when pregnant women go all crazy decorating a nursery, often with soft, cute, floral stuff, they're said to be nesting. and a bird's nest is effectively a nursery.
love the idea of making an inverted hoop to imply an actual nest, though. that would have been amazing.
Everyone is pissed because Ricky is soooooooo annoying.
There is seriously no other way to say it.
I'm bummed out about Kit leaving, I was starting to really like her work, but that dress was appalling.
I feel like it may have been a good concept if executed differently.
Ricky is my least favorite designer right now, Victorya in close second, followed by Mr. Quietly-passionate-about-draping-and-throwing-Sweet-P-under-the judges'-bus-even-though-her-RTW-dress-was-AbFab.
Though it is unfortunate I guess Kit really was the fair Aufee.
People wanted Ricky to go instead of Kit because Ricky is a consistently terrible designer and an attention whore who fake-cries for the cameras. Kit just seems like a more genuine person, and a better designer. It's a shame to see her go when someone like Ricky slips by again and again. You just know the producers are influencing the judging to keep his "drama" going week after week.
It's arbitrary and unrelated to the actual results of the challenges, but so are most of the judges' recent decisions this season.
I LOATHE Ricky. Just loathe him. Yes, it's irrational, but that fake-crying just really sets me off; it's so clearly phony and totally meant for the cameras.
So sad to absolutely agree with you. Kit was one of my heart of heart faves,but yes she should absolutely have gone home for this. With her funky edge this challenge should have been right up her alley(just as the candy challenge seemed a perfect fit for Elisa).As soon as I saw the consult with Tim I knew she would go home.
Yes ,Ricky's time is past due,but I thought even his simple frock was better than the main piece.
This challenge has to be one of my all time favorite PR challenges!
My vote ,however close, would have gone to team Jillian.
Oh,and Sweet Pea finally showed why she was chosen as a designer this season.
Ricky's RTW dress was so basic, uninspired, and FUGLY that the judges were speechlesss. "Amateur" did not even begin to describe it. Can anyone remember when such a bad designer made it this far in PR? I don't think Vincent was close to being this bad.
In the same bonus video steubenville referenced (and Kit was being a TOTAL bitch in that clip, if not in her exit interview) Ricky can be heard to be saying something like, "they just don't know how hard it is to be in the bottom all the time," referring to the judges or the other designers - I wasn't sure. But the moment I heard it, I thought, "then make something decent Ricky!" Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Vincent was at least deranged enough to think his work was amazing - Ricky knows he's a fraud.
However, I totally agree Kit should have gone home - it was her design and vision, not a true collaboration like the two high scoring sets of looks (there's a lesson for you), and it was a sorry mess. Even though Rami's was derivative and boring, it was better than Kit's.
"tlo said: See? We point out that a talented designer isn't getting any love from the judges and what happens? What ALWAYS HAPPENS?"
You know, the same thing happens whenever Dick Button is calling a competition, and says a skater is doing well. As if on cue, instantly, splat, they go down.
--GothamTomato
As sad as I was to see Kit go, the dress missed in many ways. If the hoops had waves and the ribbons swirled all around the skirt, it may have saved her. I also would have used stronger colors.
Alas and alack, there's nothing we can do about this except wait for more delicious commentary from our favorite bloggers.
I think one of the underlying problems with the judging in PR is that it seems like the judges don't take the totality of the designers work into consideration. They seem to judge for the moment. Unlike say Top Chef, where the judges are constantly discussing past work in context to whats occurred with each new episode.
Thats how someone like Ricky can stay on the show past episode two.
When Kit mentioned her "bird's nest, girl-in-a-garden" concept, my mind immediately went to deep brown, every green from a deep, rich velvety green to a soft yellow-y green. Very earthy and sexy. Even throw in a little cleavage. Make the dress textural, rich, begging to be touched. That's a girl in the garden.
Beej
"steubenville said: find the bonus 'holding cell' video."
Where is that holding cell video?
--GothamTomato
No, Ricky should've gone home LAST week. And no, I stuck to my guns and didn't watch. I've been reading the blogs & screencaps.
As much as he bugs me, Ricky really didn't deserve to go this week. (Of couse that would be moot if he was auf'd last week) Neither did Rami. His construction, while derivative, was still impeccable.
This was totally Kit's design, fabric choices, concept, and she sewed that crappy looking skirt.
this was heinous. As ever I agree 100% - they couldn't auf Ricky. As i said yesterday, it was all about responsibility for the team leader good or bad and Ricky was a good team mate. It just wasn't Kit's area, I guess
I can't figure what this outfit has to do with the hairdo? Actually I can't figure exactly what that hairdo is supposed to be in the first place. I get a little 70's disco/Karen Lynn Gorney vibe in it. For a short time there was a trend to updated 30's glamour hairstyles in the 70's and this is similar to what I remember. But teaming it with Scarletts hoop skirt doesn't make sense to me.
This seemed like one of the most uninspired hairstyles on the runway so maybe picking that one to work with was their Waterloo.
Ooh, Waterloo! They could have done some kind of "Abba on crack" look! But that would take someone like Chris to pull off.
BrianB
I have to say, I was excited when I initially heard the "bird's nest" comment. This could have been so cool - twisted fabric, natural elements, sparkly things - feathers and beads and eggs and construction. It could have been big and fantastic. Instead...it was boring and country.
I don't hate Ricky, I don't even find him annoying at all as most of you seem to. He seems like a very good, sweet guy. But it's definitely becoming apparent week after week as other designers leave that he is getting out of his league.
He just doesn't measure up to Jillian, Chris, Christian, Victorya, and Rami when it comes to the challenges. I think Sweet Pea is in the same boat as Ricky.
I wonder what would have happened if Sweet Pea and Ricky teamed up? As it was they both survived because they were paired with stronger team members who took the lead on the projects.
I think it was the satin edges that uglified this dress out to the nth degree. Looked like baby blanket finishing. Maybe if she had gone with some less 1880s farmhouse fabrics and rather gone with some more Frenchy brocade-y patterns, without the damned satin, she could have done a Marie Antoinette-ish romantic thing with that giant skirt.
As you can see, I'm not fluent in fashion-speak.
Rami? Didn't even try, though, to come up with anything "avant-garde" and deserved scorn more for that than for being impatient with Sweet P, which I can totally totally understand.
Coming soon to an exit interview near you (although I said this after Elisa went home): Sweet P.
Not coming soon enough to an exit interview near you: Li'l Ricky and some god-forsaken cap.
Sorry to say this, (Yes, I'm shallow), but what I think annoys me most about Ricky is his hat. Why on earth does he wear one all the time?
I totally agree - I love Kit, but she absolutely deserved it this time. Messy messy mess.
I agree that the bird's nest concept had lots of possibilities, even with the design that Kit came up with. I think the horrible flannel nightgownesque fabric really sunk it. Gothamtomato nailed it with "Courtney Bo Peep." Sorry Kit had to go but it was her or Rami and he looks better in a towel.
Ricky would be wise to withdraw himself from the competition. I can't see his continued production of train wrecks (maybe that's the reason for the hats?) as very good advertising for his design "abilities."
"On the one hand, this seems to be the only design this week that isn't totally derivative of some other designer's work"
Thank you! Love you mean it.
Although, I agree, this was nothing avant-garde or remotely interesting.
Aww, I feel bad for Kit - She IS a much better designer than Ricky and Sweet P - but it was her time to go.
"It's chip. It's chip in a chip way."
Thank you, Alberta! That was very dip.
Hahhahhahaha. You guys always manage to crack me up when I'm having a crappy work day.
I thought the "avant garde" dress looked like sheets & towels laundry day at a "Gone with The Wind" themed Bed & Breakfast. Or maybe it was a peek inside Laura Ashley's linen closet.
Whatever. It was ass.
Sorry to say this, (Yes, I'm shallow), but what I think annoys me most about Ricky is his hat. Why on earth does he wear one all the time?
Oh my Jesus, I know!
Who the hell told him that wearing a mesh hat was ever a good idea?
The use of satin edging on each of the skirt layers really reinforced the image of a bunch of blankets piled on top of each other.
Maybe she should have gone for the Marie Antoinette Hoop skirt instead of the Prairie.
Vanessa
"It's chip. It's chip in a chip way."
ROFLMAO.
J'adore you bitches!!!
Chip! teehee
I'm glad it's all your fault!
I had picked her to win last week and thought I was the "Big Jinks".
I really was hoping to see "Mean P" come out and go off on Rami's uptight ass.
And why did he think black pants would look good with a(nother) toga dress?
At least one "anonymous" commenter has suggested that Ricky's crying is fake, and intended for the cameras.
Maybe I'm just naive, but I totally buy Weepy's wear-it-on-your-muscle-t-sleeves emotion. I think it is genuine, along with his relative lack of fashion skill.
How he's hung on for so long is a mystery, but the boys are right: Kit's auf'ing is completely deserved. The dress looks like old electric blankets, and the whole thing was her "story," as Ricky himself observed.
As for Rami: Yes, he was a total meanie to Sweet P. And yes, he is SUCH a one-trick. And no, the garment wasn't really avant-garde. (Or "swanyay(?)," whatever, Duchess) But it was still a better concept than the Little-House-on-OxyContin thing Kit sent down the runway.
Anonymous 10:57 AM said...
I have to say, I was excited when I initially heard the "bird's nest" comment. This could have been so cool - twisted fabric, natural elements, sparkly things - feathers and beads and eggs and construction. It could have been big and fantastic. Instead...it was boring and country.
Yeah, like something Bjork would wear to the Oscars! Instead we got a whickety-whack bridesmaid dress for one of the Ingalls girls, probably Mary, the blind one.
I think the Kit/Ricky RTW dress was doomed. Sure the dress was uninspired and rushed (like all were), but the calico fabric really sunk it.
Psychomom said...
I'm glad it's all your fault!
I had picked her to win last week and thought I was the "Big Jinks".
I really was hoping to see "Mean P" come out and go off on Rami's uptight ass.
And why did he think black pants would look good with a(nother) toga dress?
I was just thinking about how when Sweet P and Rami were paired up she was all excited and then Rami decided to pop a prick pill and be a tool.
I really like Sweet P, but I'm not sure she's got it in her to make it much longer.
You make excellent points, and her dress really was a hot "home to Tara" mess, but I still wanted Ricky to leave, rather than Kit.
He irks me.
Does anyone remember when Robert in season one made the final five despite being perhaps the shittiest designer on the show that season? And then, in the postal episode, the judges suddenly realized, "Wait a second, what the fuck are you still doing here?" and auf'ed him first chance they got, despite Wendy's design being way worse?
I predict such a future for Ricky. I think the judges were ready now, but Kit made it impossible for them to send anyone home but her.
I adore Kit. Hope she'll stop taking digs at Chris, though, as she does in her EW interview and in the Bonus "Holding Cell" video people have referenced above.
Also, agree with what others have said: The nest concept had such lovely potential as an avante-garde design: Canary-hued citrons, robins-egg blues, rich browns. And then .... this came out. Really, Kit seemed like she was sleepwalking through the whole episode. No fire! And it showed in her design.
-- CAAF
And you know that Kit & Ricky wandered into an off-limits part of Mood and bought fabric from this woman.
The best use for the dress is to put this group to bed.
Another Laura--
Sorry--I missed your post when I commented about blankets and Marie Anotinette! Great minds.....
Vanessa
Yeah, like something Bjork would wear to the Oscars! Instead we got a whickety-whack bridesmaid dress for one of the Ingalls girls, probably Mary, the blind one.
Number one: Kit and Ricky made two revolting dresses and Ricky makes me want to induce vomiting on myself.
Number two: Design a dress for Bjork needs to be a challenge. I mean, she has worn everything from a fluffy swan thing to a sequined portrait of Micheal Jackson.
I haven't been able to find that 'hold cell' video, and I have to say, for a TV network that bases so much of its schedule on design-themed shows, the design of that BRAVO website is for shit: Ugly, cluttered & hard to navigate.
That designer is one who should be auf'd (or slapped).
--GothamTomato
I just wish these designers would stop talking shit about the other designers, especially in interviews.
Here's kit's EW interview:
"GothamTomato said...
I haven't been able to find that 'hold cell' video, and I have to say, for a TV network that bases so much of its schedule on design-themed shows, the design of that BRAVO website is for shit: Ugly, cluttered & hard to navigate.
That designer is one who should be auf'd (or slapped).
--GothamTomato"
It's here on PRG under 'bonus video', Kitten :)
"Sorry to say this, (Yes, I'm shallow), but what I think annoys me most about Ricky is his hat. Why on earth does he wear one all the time?"
Slightly off topic, but the hat adds the illusion of height.
OK-- Thanks to all of you, I finally get it now. Nesting in piles of blankets. Not birds nesting.
It probably still would have been the worst, but she really needed to go over the top and add a collar that looked like a pillow behind her head and maybe a stuffed animal (though she'd have to have made it). It would have been more literal and artistic.
Of course, even if she had done a fabulous job with a concept like "nesting" the judges would have hated it because the idea is so domestic and mundane. She was doomed from the beginning of her thought process.
Vanessa
It just didn't seem that the hairstyle went with the concept. Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but didn't Kit say she didn't want to work with the second model precisely because her hairstyle resembled a bird's nest? I don't get a pastoral/garden/bird's nest vibe from the primary model's hair at all. But I did like Kit and am sorry to see her go.
Kit's interview is really revealing--she distinguishes between "Avant Garde" and "Couture" very succinctly, and I do believe that the more "couture" looks were the winners, which showed what Avant garde means to the fashion industry, as opposed to the art world.
vanessa
When, oh, when are people going to get it? Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count. And, realistically, how could it? The guest judges, unlike us, haven't seen all the previous garments and would have no basis for comparison. Also, unlike us, they haven't watched the backstage drama and so their opinions aren't colored by that.
In addition, in a team challenge, it's the team leader who is on the chopping block. We all know that.
This auf-ing was righteous. And I say that as someone who thinks Kit did some good work earlier.
Blogger Stubenville said...
"Thanks to a tip from our fierce hosts, T&Lo, head over to the PR website and find the bonus 'holding cell' video. Pay attention to Kit whispering; now we know that sweet innocent little kitty cat Kit has claws and she thinks that Chris should be thrown under the bus because he's been auf'd before. Not so nice..."
I just watched that video (it's in the bonus section under videos from season 4 on the Bravo TV website, gothamtomato), and it made me rethink things a bit.
While I am disappointed that Kit went home, I agree with the decision. I thought it was unfair of both her and Rami to say that their lack of success was due to their teammates.
I also thought Kit's comment that Chris should go because he was with a strong team leader and had already been auf'd was ridiculous! His work last week was top-notch. It's not his fault he was called back to the competition, and the other designers need to get over it and not hold it against him.
Finally, the video gave me a bit of perspective with regards to Ricky. He said that he's tired of being in the bottom and feeling like he doesn't belong here--if the judges hate his work so much, why don't they just say it? I think that's a good point. If they really think Ricky is that bad, why don't they just say he's not good enough and send him home? Why keep him hanging on each week, making him look like a "cockroach," as some have put it? If it's simply for "entertainment value," that's just wrong.
Lilithcat said:
"When, oh, when are people going to get it? Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count. And, realistically, how could it? The guest judges, unlike us, haven't seen all the previous garments and would have no basis for comparison. Also, unlike us, they haven't watched the backstage drama and so their opinions aren't colored by that."
Unfortunately sweetie, many people in here will NEVER get that simple concept, but continue to whine about who is more deserving based on personality, "past performance", etc. etc.
There simply is no accounting for dimness.
"Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count."
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Uh, how do you explain Santino, Vincent or Wendy Pepper's longevity?
Santino OFTEN had the WORST outfits. Do you remember the deer face "lingerie"? The turkey dress? Gimme a break!
Wendy's "candy" dress, that pocohantas crap, I could go on and on about her.
VIncent's paper dress was clearly the WORST.
Ricky is this season's dead weight loser kept around for "drama". He should not even have been cast for this show.
"Slightly off topic, but the hat adds the illusion of height."
It also covers the loss of hair.
I used to know a very famous photographer who always wore a hat, even to formal events. He was insecure about his receding hairline.
--GothamTomato
I think T&L are spot on. This was the pivotal episode where everyone received carte blanche to create anything they wanted...and Little House on the Prairie is hardly fashion forward. Where is her punk edge.
I personally think that the judges are reserving Ricky for the time when they really good designers stumble and they can auf Ricky instead. They've taken out the low hanging foot (expect Ricky) and now are gong through the mid tier. At this point there are 3 questionable designers left - Sweet Pea, Rami and Ricky. I expect all 3 to be gone in the next 3 weeks.
However, if I was Ricky, I'd find an excuse to get off the show because the longer he is on tv, the more we hate him. He is going to have a tough time with his future career...but then again maybe he should go back to his old career, although it doesn't feel like he was good lingerie designer either because he's had many opportunities to create something lush, like Sweet Pea's prom dress. My theory is that he designs for Playtex...
I watched the show again last night and when Kit discusses her idea at the beginning it is clearly a stream of consciousness from the other model (the one with the big hair) looking like a birds nest to the general concept of "nesting." I think it is really clear that she went completely beyond "birds" to a more generic concept of nesting which led to the symbols of domesticity of apron and blankets. I almost think she was reflecting an unconscious wish to go home.
What is interesting is that her design concept and execution are so female in their symbolism, yet reflect ideas about femininity that are viewed as traditional and oppressive--the kitchen, the bed, and the hoop skirt.
--Vanessa
"Does anyone remember when Robert in season one made the final five despite being perhaps the shittiest designer on the show that season? And then, in the postal episode, the judges suddenly realized, "Wait a second, what the fuck are you still doing here?" and auf'ed him first chance they got, despite Wendy's design being way worse?"
I'm convinced the judges are keeping Ricky around as "insurance" in case one of their chosen ones (Jillian, Rami Christian) ever falls into real danger. Then they can toss him off because he is clearly the weakest link and definitely expendable.
"It also covers the loss of hair.
I used to know a very famous photographer who always wore a hat, even to formal events. He was insecure about his receding hairline."
True. Hats are often used to disguise baldness. Ricky must have a UFO landing patch under that trucker cap.
Anonymous said... |
"Sorry to say this, (Yes, I'm shallow), but what I think annoys me most about Ricky is his hat. Why on earth does he wear one all the time?"
I know, right? What is so bad about the top of that man's head that he's got to hide it 100% of the time? Scabies? Bald? A bad perm? Another head? A malformed twin? More eyes that cry?
It's no worse than Rami's door knob head. (I'm sorry, that IS shallow. Somebody in a previous post gave us that brilliant analogy though, and it IS true. It is!)
I agree that it was Kit's idea so she should be the one to go. But I'm really sad since I like her designs (not the last one of course) and she seems like a really cool person, so I wish she didn't have to go.
Hubby and I think that it should matter how many times you've been in the bottom group. If it is a choice between two designers and one is consistantly in the bottom group, that should count againt them. Maybe that's the theory, but it seems like there have been designers that are in the bottom group week after week, but are always spared. Not fair!
I don't have any illusions that I am a fashion designers, but if Kit wanted a bird's nest idea, I think she should have gotten a bunch of twigs and sticks and made a skirt with those materials. Just a thought.
Poor Kit, I knew she would get the ax when she was paired with Ricky. If he had been team leader they probably would have done a double elimination.
Re: Hoops being avant garde, both Westwood and John Gallianos have used them in rather imaginative ways in the past. Viv did a collection back in the mid 80's called "Mini Crinnie" that was my favorite ever collection.
I loved the bird nest concept that Kit was working on, but the end product wasn't quite there. I don't blame Ricky for her elimination. But I do think the producers already know who they want in the final 3, so they have to get rid of the ones that might trump one of the favorites at the end.
i agree. at first i was shocked that they chose to send kit home over ricky, simply because she's produced better work than he has all season. but she is ultimately responsible for both garments. she designed both of them and approved them both for the runway.
ricky really was entirely drama-free this episode, did everything she asked of him, and made sure both the corset and the RTW dress fit perfectly. the fabric choices, the concept, the designs, those were all kit's responsibility.
also, after her comments in the holding cell video... i'm kinda not so sorry to see her go.
"I just wish these designers would stop talking shit about the other designers, especially in interviews."
I'm willing to give her a break. They're interviewing the designers who know they're on the bottom, presumably while those on the top are still on the runway. She was certainly gracious in her exit interviews once the axe had fallen.
Chris' resurrection seems to have stuck in everybody's craw. It's one of those unfair things that happen on reality shows, and in life, for that matter. I think it's easier for us to be comfortable with it because a lot of the fan base thought he never should have gone home on that challenge in the first place.
The dress was a mess, and weirdly for Kit, had no edge. There really was nothing else but for her to go home.
"dishes said: However, if I was Ricky, I'd find an excuse to get off the show because the longer he is on tv, the more we hate him. He is going to have a tough time with his future career."
I don't know what 'we' you're talking about, but I know that I certainly don't hate him.
I think he's actually quite likeable, and I haven't seen him be overtly nasty to the others, (as, for example, the angry little peanut was last season. THAT was someone who shot his career in the head).
I don't like Ricky's designs however, and I think, along with SweetP, he is at the bottom the those who remain. But I don't hate him.
I find it odd how these tribal lines fall for some posters.
--GothamTomato
The dress was horrible. An avant garde work pushes the known boundaries of acceptable fashion. I don't know how Kit thought layering aprons in calico would do that. She's a better designer than that.
What really pissed me off about the judges this week was letting Ricky off the runway before Sweet P. This implied that his design was a notch better than hers. That little gray dress was cute as a button and very wearable. Ricky's dress looked like it was made from flour sack cloth with no thought put into it at all.
While I think Kit is a much better designer than either Ricky or Sweet P, she was clearly a middle-of-the-pack performer. Nothing she did was particularly interesting to me. And she seemed pretty bland and vanilla, personality-wise. That's especially odd considering her edgy look. I think the reason so many people like her is because of her personal style which appeals to a lot of young people. But except for the Hershey's dress she never put much of that into her designs and she didn't really contribute anything memorable personality-wise. She was absolutely the right choice to go last night. (Ricky and Sweet P should have already been gone).
The nest concept could have been interesting and very avant garde. I'm thinking maybe use a modified, more elongated wicker or wooden hoop as the dress itself (almost like a dress form), maybe with a sheer layer of tulle over it and some amazing bodice. Also like Leslie's idea of using twigs in some way. She could also have used beautiful beads to look like eggs. Anyway, there are lots of clever things she could have done with this concept and instead she did something embarrassingly bad. Auf wiedersehen, baby!
This might've been a really cool look for a different challenge. I loved the back, at least.
i was certain Rami would go. Oh well. He'd better do more shirtless stuff to make up for it.
"Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count."
If that were really true, they would have auf'd Christian last week. They are always keeping people based on past performance (Santino) but rarely auf them for it. Why is that?
I'm tired of Ricky, too, but this dog was all Kit.
snf in va said...
"This looked like something I would have cobbled together for my dolls, out of scraps from Mama's many calico-craze sewing projects circa 1970."
I'm a quilter and the first thing I thought when I saw Kit's dress was, "She'd make a great quilter." But I also said to my husband, "Gone With the Wind Kitchen Wear--aprons and hoops!"
As much as I despise Ricky and his crocodile tears, I agree with TLo that he should not have gone home because of this mess, BUT HE STILL NEEDS TO GO HOME!!! Please, PR Gods, make it happen!!!!!!!!
When, oh, when are people going to get it? Each challenge is judged on its own. Prior performance doesn't count.
It does count (we've heard the judges on many occasions complain about negative patterns in designers' work), has clearly counted on several occasions (remember the dress Chloe made in the last regular S2 challenge with seams directly around Grace's ass? Over Kara's plain but quite wearable one? Zero chance that decision would have been made if Chloe weren't a favorite), and should count, because refusing to consider established trends is unacceptable. If the judges don't send the real standouts of the show to Fashion Week, they aren't doing their jobs.
My particular beef with this week is not so much that Kit was chosen over Ricky, since she was team leader. My beef is that there are too many freakin' team challenges! The odds that Ricky could have survived an avant-garde or couture challenge working on his own are slim to none--it's what finally freed us of Vincent. Similarly, Chris clearly poured himself into his avant-garde design and scored a win for Christian, whose style is more clearly reflected in the throwaway ready-to-wear look.
The unfairness of this situation is frustrating.
Yes, Vanessa, you and I truly have the same awesome vibe! A Marie Antoinettey thing would have worked much better with her bird's nest Little Bo Beepy thing!
Bill thanks for the Little House pics, you consistently are fab!
Kit used her Mark Twain too much this challenge. She should have used her Pistol.
The classic dilemma between logic (what should happen) and emotion (what I want to happen). Strangely enough, if Kit had been more literal in interpreting "bird's nest," she might have been more successful.
If Ricky manages to half-ass his way into the final five, I am going to have an ENORMOUS hissy-fit.
Not to nitpick ... well really ... only to nitpick. I truly believe past performance does not matter much to the judges. They do not care if you were top 3 / bottom 3 or what you made last week. Now they may remember if you bored them (Robert), or sent unfinished work down (Zulema) often ... and both Rob and Zu were eliminated in weeks in which they committed their sin AGAIN.
In other cases: (S1) Wendy stayed because Daniel Franco made a trash bag dress. Robert was kept around because he spoke well and designed moderately well. His elimination was more so because of zip-pants and wompy polo shirt than anything else. (S2) Santino stayed because Daniel Franco made repetitive and boring lingerie. He stayed later on because, while his work was often unfinished, it was seldom boring. (S3) Vincent's paper dress elongated his model, while Alison's did the opposite.
If anything, the judges took the past performance of Michael (S3) into account for the couture challenge, where he very well could have gone home.
Yesssss
Ferretti screencaps are classic PRGay...actually I thought the dress was pure sheet. (while we are doing accents)
suzanne said pure sheet
HA! Exactly, darlin'! That's perfect.
i'm glad to see that other posters are making the point about kit's AG dress not having any real edge to it. this was an opportunity to really go wild and present something edgy and punk and over-the-top. to see that her mind did not even go there, but in the total opposite direction is a shame.
the whole thing could have been bright and colorful and animated. but she opted to use subtle colors and quaint fabrics on a fashion-backwards silhouette. all with less than perfect craftsmanship. it's almost baffling.
i only wish we had a better shot of the back of her dress, since that seemed to be where she was being most creative. any chance there's a picture of it floating around somewhere? i'm curious and would like a closer look.
I hate how team challenges protect lesser contestants in these mid-episodes
I liked the back of Kit's avant dress a lot.
I am not getting all the hate for Ricky. Because he is not the best designer on the show? Come on! We only like those who are the best at something? He obviously has talent or he wouldn't have made it on. I have to say I haven't loved anything he has produced but he seems like a nice guy. The only conflict he had was with VictorYA (and she was being super passive agressive). The crying is actually funny, IMO. I am just not getting the hate :)
PS , T&L, The Alberta F. screencaps were some of your best work in a while
Finally, the video gave me a bit of perspective with regards to Ricky. He said that he's tired of being in the bottom and feeling like he doesn't belong here--if the judges hate his work so much, why don't they just say it? I think that's a good point. If they really think Ricky is that bad, why don't they just say he's not good enough and send him home? Why keep him hanging on each week, making him look like a "cockroach," as some have put it? If it's simply for "entertainment value," that's just wrong.
11:55 AM
I agree. It has to be difficult to be in Ricky's position-he doesn't get any positive feedback from the judges, and after all, it has been the judge's decision to keep him on the show.
I really wish Elisa was still around for this challenge, rather than Ricky. It would have been really interesting to see what she could have done for it.
Honestly, I hate Ricky as much as the next person (ok, hate is a strong word... I'm ANNOYED by Ricky's remaining as much as the next person), but hello, every team challenge means the team LEADER goes home. Ricky was smart and asked Kit to be leader.
I see Kit's idea, but it wasn't well executed. I loved the ribbon detail in the back, though.
I agree, cpk. Ricky seems like a nice guy. Some people are naturally more emotional than others. For all we know, Victorya is regularly crying on the inside.
I actually feel sorry for Ricky, as I said, after seeing that bonus "holding cell" video. I personally think it would suck to be kept on the show week after week, only to be told over and over that your designs are bad (though I'm not arguing that his work has been good). I'm sure he has talent...perhaps this just isn't his venue. Maybe confidence issues are hindering him.
"geoff said
And no, the garment wasn't really avant-garde. (Or "swanyay(?)," whatever, Duchess)"
soigné or soignée \swän-yā\
Function: adjective
Etymology: French, from past participle of soigner to take care of
1 : well-groomed sleek
2 : elegantly maintained or designed (a soigné restaurant) (a soigné black dress)
Ricky is just coasting waiting for his auf, and talking, talking, talking all the time. He has never delivered. He should have had some opinions with Kit and not just always said "its her storyline" etc.. He was hiding behind the hoop skirt. Compare to when he worked with whats her name and always tried to butt in.
Kit blew it with her exit videos. Yeah right, they will realllllly think about you when the last 3 are in the final competition. Sure, it will be next year, Kit who? Get some context, you did not deliver enough to warrant staying on. Don't pull that tough-girl cred, we saw your high school photo, case closed.
i don't really think Kit's dress was all that bad. i thought the apron was sorta weird but i see how she got the hoop skirt to go with the hair. to me it wasn't any worse than Rami's design. Ricky's lame ass dress, however, was lame. ass. period. At least kit's dress was creatively inspired. there was nothing inspirational in ricky's lame. ass. dress. goodbye ricky. period.
Somebody above mentioned Vincent and Ricky... god, how cruel. Whatever happened to the greatest designer ever?
Ricky sure was taking charge when they started the challenge. He told the model that they weren't using her and she could just sit down. I thought that was extremely Lucy Van Pelt of him.
Hello Babies...
As I said in my blog, the AG dress reminds me of something in my home country, Mexico.
We have these "Sweet Fifteen" parties for girls called Quinceaneras. This dress was what a girl from an extremely low income family would have her mother make her out of Jo-Ann Fabrics remnants for her very sad Quinceanera party.
I feel bad for Marie for having to wear it because I just love her, and she is awesome.
The RTW dress was 1st semester Apparel Contruction or HS home ec. Take your pic.
I can see the rationale behind the Kit auffing, but I can also see how because of the cumulative body of work, people want Ricky's head on a stick.
I tend to side with the second group because I think that Kit could have shown something intersting in upcoming challenges.
IMHO.
Love you angels,
Milla
"whodat said...
I really wish Elisa was still around for this challenge"
I was thinking the same thing. But this again, is where the luck of the draw falls into play.
If you're one of the designers, I guess you have to hope that the challenges that will best show your talent come up at the top of the order, instead of the ones that will expose your shortcomings.
--GothamTomato
I too think the judges take past performance into consideration when they want to. That's why it's frustrating that Ricky's still here. If Chris's aufing had stuck, we'd never have seen his Hershey's dress, his prom dress, or the Winged Victory dress. That's why they should take past performance into consideration. Is there anything Ricky's designed that we'd have been sorry to miss?
As for Kit, this was a huge misstep. Both dresses were doomed by the fabric choices. To come from someone who believes she does funky, edgy work, these dresses were the surprising opposite in every way. A more talented designer than Ricky might have been able to steer her away from disaster. So the curse lives on, but I'm not sure I'd blame TLo.
Okay I just watched the "Holding Cell" video. I didn't think what Kit said about Chris was that bad. Of course all the designers that get auf'ed before him are going to feel a little bitter and what she said wasn't all that bitter. She's right about it not being fair. Its not as if she said he was an untalented asshole.
I do feel a bit bad for Ricky. I think they are fucking with his head and the other designers as well by calling him out but keeping him on.
The producers are manipulating the designers and viewers.
I'm sorry, I will say it one more time, Kit's dress was very CONCEPTUAL, only she was not trying to make a birds nest, she was trying to evoke "nesting" as in domesticity.
Unfortunately, it just wasn't couture or soignee or at all sophisticated (unless she was being ironic about women in the kitchen and the bedroom, which I don't think she was).
I just don't think this sort of idea evokes anything fashionable, and even though it could be HIGH CONCEPT it could not be AVANT GARDE unless it was sardonic or a political statement. Avant Garde is the opposite of homey and domestic.
I'll stop now.
Vanessa
No, youse guys are wrong this time. Kit was the leader and made some bad choices. Ricky kept his mouth shut and let her slip under the bus. He's the smart one for that. No way was his head getting axed by leading.
Then he made that, that, that little babydoll dress. Again.
No! Rickey should have been sent home for simply not existing in this episode.
I feel like i'm the only one that did not find Kit's Dress to not fulfill the challenge. From what I saw, her model's hairstyle was an exaggeration of the stereotypical 1950's homemaker and that the dress that she designed was an exaggerated version of the apron dress that was the typical uniform of the homemaker at the time.
People have been saying that this dress is not avant garde. I disagree, I think her use of the fabrics that she picked which were clearly day time fabrics, into a hoopskirted evening look was unorthodox, and intentional. The work on the back of the dress should have been on the front, though it was still tactile, interesting and different. Besides Jill's, I felt that Kit's design was the only that seemed truly inspired by her model's hair.
In regards to the other designers, Christian's had seemingly no connection to the hair style other than the fact that both were pretty. His dress was not very original and felt derivative of Galliano, and Mcqueen who have shown better executed versions of this dress within the last year. Rami's also had seemingly nothing to do with his hairstyle, the pants he choose to make were all wrong and the dress looked like an ugly deconstructed Versace gown. I give Jillian and Victorya credit for designing a look that seemed inspired by their model's hair but their garments felt as derivative of London high fashion as Christian's. In conclusion I think that Rami was clearly the person who should have been auf'd.
It still sucks, crappy dress, but at least it has a point of view, compared to the crappy shit Ricky sew. If you say Kit's dress looks like old linen, Ricky's dress looks like basic sewing class project. Come on! She was the team leader and she made a lot of decissions, but it was clear that he just sat down, followed orders thinking "hmm she is team leader so she is responsible if we fail, so this is my time to take a break". Yet again, he got a shot to do something and did that freaking cheap dress. What the f.? Did the judges forgot that Ricky is always on the bottom? They should have given Kit another chance...
Anon 11:58 said:
"Unfortunately sweetie, many people in here will NEVER get that simple concept, but continue to whine about who is more deserving based on personality, "past performance", etc. etc.
There simply is no accounting for dimness."
Oh Grrrrrl! Truer words were never spoken.
Now, if this were the Olympics, Dick Buttons would say ...
LOLOLOL
THANKS zevs!
I think you and I are seeing similar things--and as soon as I looked at it as symbolic of traditional female symbols of domesticity, the whole thing looked completely conceptual. I just think her concept would never make it with the judges. I think it would work better as conceptual art than as fashion.
Vanessa
ZevS said...
From what I saw, her model's hairstyle was an exaggeration of the stereotypical 1950's homemaker and that the dress that she designed was an exaggerated version of the apron dress that was the typical uniform of the homemaker at the time.
"Santino stayed because Daniel Franco made repetitive and boring lingerie. He stayed later on because, while his work was often unfinished, it was seldom boring."
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Ricky's work is consistently BORING, REPETITIVE, unoriginal and poorly constructed.
He makes that same stupid baby doll dress over and over again. Unlike Jeffrey or Santino, Ricky does not even have a strong "point of view" or design aesthetic.
Ricky is boring. He has failed to produce even one exceptional outfit. They called Robert boring? At least he had that fabulous first dress. Ricky has NOTHING to show for himself. NOTHING.
The worst part about team challenges is that last week, TLo had to do nine separate entries about the designers' work, and this week, we only get four. What am I supposed to do with that extra time? Work?
The "Holding Cell" clip makes Rami look even more like a tool. The problem with his gown is that he designed a Rami gown with dumb pants - that was HIS design. Sweet P, and working in a team, wasn't the problem. Execution wasn't the problem with the dress Rami made - it was just dumb and looked like everything else he's done. Take some f*cking responsibility.
I'm bothered that Kit and others are suggesting that Christian did all the work and Chris "only" did the headdress. Without that massive wing/thing, that would have been an interesting, ruffly dress. Without the interesting, ruffly dress, it would have just been a crazy headdress. BOTH pieces required a lot of skill and talent. And what WAS Kit's point about Chris? That he should automatically be auf'd when someone has to go, because he went before?
I feel bad for Chris, getting all this shit from the other designers. He got a lucky break for sure, in coming back - but he's had to pull his own weight (metaphorically) since then, just like the rest of them.
Bah.
and Kit's dress was sort of pretty, in a laura ashley sweet summer little girl kind of way. I like the interpretation people have proposed here - a takeoff on domesticity, etc etc. but i don't think that was really there ENOUGH.
Thank you for uploading the "Holding Cell" video, TLo. Gee, I don't know everybody I watch one of those interviews I get a bit disappointed with those designers. Sometimes a little too full of themselves...
Sorry...I meant to say...
I don't know every TIME I watch one of those interviews I get a bit disappointed with those designers. Sometimes a little too full of themselves..."
I think Kit's comment about Chris is kinda shitty. They need to leave the jealousy at home. Chris didn't ask to be brought back. It was Jack and his medical condition that led to that. Since he has came back, he has made great outfits except for the one he came back on and since he came in the middle of that challenge, I don't think he should get too much flak for that.
Her logic is flawed, that Chris should go because he was already auf'd. It's ridiculous and now I am glad she got sent home. What a poor sport she is.
Okay, I'm going to sound like a tasteless weirdo here, but I really, really liked the crazy curtains-and-bedding hoop dress. It struck me as having Kit's personality and a lot of bright colors and just being ... wacky. The kind of thing you can't do in real life, but you can do for, say, a costume party.
I just thought it was breathtaking, really. And I usually don't adore the auf'd designs, you know?
Regardless, this season has gone horribly awry. They've gotten rid of Kevin and Kit -- and I was sorry to see Elisa go, though it was time -- but they've managed to hang on to a few questionable designers and a whole herd of bitches. Seriously, I'm now imagining a giant catfight between Rami, Victorya, and Jillian. Sweet P could kick all their asses, but she'd sit this one out and eat popcorn whilst watching the fun with Chris. Christian wouldn't be invited to the catfight, but he'd be sure to draw attention to himself anyway, probably wearing a cape and jumping around screaming, "I am so FIERCE!"
PS. Don't tell anyone, because I'd probably scratch his eyes out if I ever met him in real life, but Christian is sort of growing on me.
Well I read (on here actually) that VictorYa gets auf'd ( I don't know when) but that she gets so mad and storms off the set. It takes 3 hours to find her to complete the taping. If that is true it will be awesome. I hope she goes home next.
I hope the final 4 are Chris, Christian, Rami and Jillian. Even though I don't like Jillian, I don't know who else could make it that far. The next challenge they are [edited by the administrator]. So it should be interesting to see who falls on their face. Maybe Rami? Maybe this is the one that gets VictorYA.
I actually like the apron-print idea. She should've piled on layers and layers and layers of the fabric. Really gone overboard with the layers. Or ripped up the fabric. Or dirtied the fabric. An unfortunate gardening accident! Poured cows's blood on it. Something. Anything.
And Icky Ricky lives to cry another day.
Urk.
zevs said...
...From what I saw, her model's hairstyle was an exaggeration of the stereotypical 1950's homemaker and that the dress that she designed was an exaggerated version of the apron dress that was the typical uniform of the homemaker at the time.
Thank you for helping me see Kit's garment in the context of nesting as domesticity. I have a real prejudice against hoop skirts and all they symbolize and was kind of nonplused by the garment. (I did a non-wearable art piece called, "Shroud for the Perfect Housewife" as a way of expressing the trap of fighting dirt all one's life and then being buried in it when dead, so you can see this has been on my mind.)
Kim's piece is an interesting take and while I don't think it met the challenge from an execution perspective, I do appreciate your take on her take on women's roles. What if the dress had been composed of numerous over-the-top aprons? Might have been interesting.
Desertwind! Get out of my head. Sounds like our apron ideas, with the possible exception of the cow's blood" could have been just the ticket. I am actually thinking of reworking my piece into an apron as a result of this discussion.
Oh well, Adios, Kit!
Seth - where can I find her comments on Chris? I just watched the 2 exit interviews that t&L posted and didn't see it.
"Anonymous said...
Seth - where can I find her comments on Chris? I just watched the 2 exit interviews that t&L posted and didn't see it.
4:22 PM"
See Anon 9:56 AM for link.
has anyone else googled "bird nest dress"? Yes, I was dorky enough to do it and I found a lovely illustration that just might have been a winning idea for Kit (even though she's now on my shit list for dissing Sissy) if she'd constructed some nests out of ribbon or wire or something. And then if she'd pushed the color up a notch or twenty...
Anyhow, just goes to show what you can find online if you google
Let 'em all "diss" Sissy Bear.
Just keep voting for him as fan favorite. This way he can throw a huge costume party with lots to drink, and invite all us "non-cool" kids.
It'll be his belated Prom party.
I'm not sure anymore if the producers keep Ricki around for pure drama. He's been pretty low key lately, really not adding anything entertaining at all.
Given Ricki's less fortunate background, I think that the producers have taken him on as a pet project from the get go.
Here's my prediction for Ricky: He will be kept around long enough to participate in a fabulous trip abroad. Where he will be auf'd. However, Ricki will be so overcome by having been able to travel to a fancy overseas location, that the blow to have been auf'd will be a soft one.
Ricki will be deeply grateful to have come so far, and the producers will feel good. Have a little heart, people.
I liken these reality elimination TV competitions to bronco rodeos. Not only for the contestants, but for the viewers too. Who knows what unforeseen circumstances will lead to someone getting bucked off of that horse? So I figure no sense getting upset about who stays or goes. It's all part of the ride. I like rollercoasters! :-D
I am *really* tired of the designers Chris-bashing and gnashing their peroxided teeth about him being brought back.
It's not like he *asked* to be brought back. It's not like he *blackmailed* anyone to come back. It's not like he *threatened* to sue Bravo to get back on.
He was asked.
And any friggin' designer who says if they were in his shoes, they wouldn't have come back "on principle" are lyin' sacks o' flannel scraps.
Kit's dress: no. It sucked and she deserved to go. Ricky? Total bystander seamster this week - but that doesn't warrant aufing over Kit.
Linette,
I love roller coasters too!! Love them, I have ridden over 200.
I didn't get the birds nest association with the hair do, but if that's the direction she wanted to take us then there was so much she could've done. Branches, birds, leaves...birds coming out of the pockets.... whatever, it's over.
Sorry to see her go. She was one of my faves, though I noticed the little apron/pinafore strap schtick was showing up over and over again.
I think she's going to be really big. I really love her work.
Ricky should have gone by now, but just imagine the meltdown he will have when it happens. He is an emotional train wreck. There are great meds out now for people with anxiety disorders (moi!) these make you able to deal with life and pressure without crying like a tiny little tittie-baby! I think Christian is too cocky and obnoxious, but at least he is not weeping at every turn!
Hmmm...I finally saw the bonus video: Given what Kit said, and Jack said earlier, I guess there was some resentment towards Chris that we didn't see on the show. It looked like they were all cheering when he came back, but I guess they didn't realize that he'd be competing with them again.
While I can understand how the shifting sands annoyed them, I know that with other game shows, it is in the agreement you sign, that you are informed that the producers have the option of bringing back previously eliminated contestants. I'd think that Bravo has the same sort of disclosure in their contestant agreements.
And the reality there is, not a one of them would not have grabbed the opportunity to come back, and run with it.
--GothamTomato
What everyone else said. It's not so much that we think Ricky deserved to be auf'ed for this challenge -- Kit was the team leader, the AG design idea was hers, etc. etc. But I (and quite a few others, apparently) do think that Ricky should not even have been there at this point in the competition. Maybe Kit would have worked better with a better partner. Or maybe not. But it does seem diply unfair that Ricky is still standing after Kit, Kevin and Elisa have fallen. Like wrong in some cosmic way. Sew wrong, as Heidi might say.
Gotham Tomato said:
"Given what Kit said, and Jack said earlier, I guess there was some resentment towards Chris that we didn't see on the show. It looked like they were all cheering when he came back, but I guess they didn't realize that he'd be competing with them again."
That's so true. They probably thought it was like season one when Robbio came back to "help" them. They need to get over it. Big time.
Exactly right! I totally agree that Kit has done better work than Ricky this season but she was responsible for this mess and she deserved to be out.
As you pointed out, it's not as though Ricky was sabbotaging Kit's leadership. He was a good team player, the team just didn't do a good job.
Gads! The moment Kit said "hoop skirt" I had the feeling she'd doomed herself. (well that, and having Ricky-the-not-so-out-of-the-box-thinker as a partner for Avant Garde)
Floor-length-hoop-skirts don't Glide or Float down the runway...they GALLOOP~ ~and wallomph and ker-chunkity-chunk. (think Snuffalufagus from Sesame Street)
It's impossible for the model to walk without lifting the architecture which only adds to it's UN-appeal.
Additionally, her interpretation of that hairstyle as relating to a bird's nest just leaves me befuddled. It was floaty and poofy in a cloud-like way. An Avant-G dress could have been built in poofed sheer blues, layer upon layer...and she could have kept the damn hoop-skirt and made it work.
The RTW dress was pure arse. It might as well have been made from those little packets of lemon-lysol hand-sanitizing-towelettes ...it was THAT 'chip'. (TLo, you're brilliant)
Poor Kit, I really thought she was a Dark Horse contender. I'm not as miffed as others are about her comments. It's a fierce competition and it was clear that she wanted to be on Team Christian. I wish her well.
When I saw her hairstyle inspiration, I though "Wwwwwoooooo... '20s or '30s wackitry could happen!" And it's very au courant according to the fashion mags, apparently.
Jesus. It was crap, though. And I would really like to know if Ricky had *any* idea other than 'agree with anything Kit says 'cause she'll either do good or do dodo.'
Anonymous [5:13 PM] said...
Here's my prediction for Ricky: He will be kept around long enough to participate in a fabulous trip abroad. Where he will be auf'd.
My prediction is that the producers will finally get fed up with the tears and throw 'Weepin Willy' out of the moving PR van in Hoboken, NJ. Without carfare home.
How sad is it that this was the silhouette of my prom dress???? Sure, my fabric choice was a brocade baby blue polyester satin with nasty white lace trim, but the end result in comparison was just as tragic.
Bad times.
is it just me or is she totally hammered in her videos? guess girlfriend deserves a few drinks after being kicked off...
I've got to jump on the bandwagon with those appreciating Kit's concept in this dress. With better execution, this could have been incredible. To whoever mentioned layers and layers of aprons, that's exactly what I thought when she and Ricky were planning the dress! I also totally dug the old-timey grandma fabric, but there needed to be MORE. Of everything. Tons of different prints juxtaposed with brighter colors, tons of aprons of different lengths. It should have been a carefully-constructed chaotic mess. As for the hoop skirt, I think a little asymmetry would have made the dress more visually interesting. Perhaps only have a half or quarter hoop, and expose the construction of it. Ah, if only!
Not much to say for Ricky's garment. This whole thing reminded me of the Daniel Franco lingerie entry. Just...no.
Kit is covering up her bland personality by wearing hip clothing, but the blandness caught up with her. She wasn't a shitty designer, but she had no personality and no vision.
Thank you, Gotham Tomato, for expressing in a clear and rational manner the sentiments I have concerning the re-instatement of Chris.
I couldn't have said it nearly so well because I'm still steaming about the bonus video and what appeared to be a big ol' self-entitled wah-wah-wah whineFest from both Kit and Rami. Two talented designers who were fortunate enough to be showcased on national television.
We've had the discussion about competition 'come-backs' before on this blog when Angela & Vincent were resurrected. To be succinct: Them's the rules. Life isn't fair, and this isn't even life, it's a reality show.
But the Kitten's whining in this video and in the ET interview have definitely interfered with my sympathy for her auf'ing. And, for the same reason, I eagerly await Rami's farewell.
Which is childish. Because people aren't perfect, and this isn't life, it's a reality show. My likes and dislikes of the designers on this show are based on sound bites and video snippets pieced together to elicit reaction.
So, forced to see the "real" reality (what's the classical reference: god with clay feet?), I've reluctantly lost a little bit of the "rah rah" for these designers in general. Too bad...I totally agree with the earlier post: it was more fun before they started opening their mouths...
A couple of things....
1. CHRIS' RETURN
For everyone bitching about it now, do recall that when Tim brought him back into the workroom, everyone applauded and cheered and talked about how happy they were he was back. It was only when he started kicking ass that the snipes popped up.
Bottom line, he made a better dress than Kit. She can cattily whisper whatever she wants, but them's the breaks.
2. THE HOOP SKIRT
Am I crazy, or would Kit's dress have looked way better without the hoops?
3. RICKY'S AUFING
The best thing about Kit's dress was the corset, which Ricky constructed. He didn't deserve the boot. Not this week, at least.
4. JILLIAN'S "FREAK OUT"
How cute is she? I love it when she "freaks out", and you only know she's "freaking out" because she calmly says to the camera.
I love it!
To those who see Kit's design as her take on "domesticity", well, that's a nice spin, but she said explicitly that she was thinking "bird's nest", and "garden". If she had said, "I'm thinking about the bed/home as a nest", it would still have been a horrid garment, but it would have connected, at least vaguely, with the concept. But she didn't say that.
Yay Alex! Not only a talented cartoonist but capable of summing up the major points of this episode succintly!
PS. I too love it when Jillian has her "freak outs"
What a lady! Her exit videos could not be more poised, gracious, and well-spoken. What design company wouldn't want such a stable, healthy, intelligent person working for them?
Anonymous 12:08, I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic.
"lilithcat said: If she had said, "I'm thinking about the bed/home as a nest", it would still have been a horrid garment, but it would have connected, at least vaguely, with the concept. But she didn't say that."
Actually, ever since I saw that dress, the other night, I've had this song in my head, but I cannot remember the title.
But it's an old Italian song that has a line like, 'Lazy Mary, you gotta get up, we need the sheets for the table.'
--GothamTomato
I'm sad to see Kit go, because I actually liked quite a lot of her designs. And, while she's not dramatic, I didn't think she was dull either. She just seemed very down to earth, which I enjoyed.
About Chris, I don't understand why there isn't any sympathy for the designers who have been cut after his return. I mean, I really like Chris, and I think he's a good designer. But it isn't hard for me to put myself in the other designers shoes and think that he got a break no one else did, through no merit of his own. It was just luck. And the designers are just sad and frustrated that they didn't get the same break. I don't think it's any true, evil animosity against Chris.
I don't know why anyone obsesses too much over who wins this thing. The exposure on the show is all that really matters, and anyone but the first two eliminated gets enough TV time to benefit from this show. Winning means nothing, really. It certainly doesn't mean the winner is the best.
Ricky, however, has no business still being in this competition. Every outfit he has made since the first show has been the same silly little baby doll lingerie dress. Nothing special or interesting about ANY of them.
I kind of do think Kit has it out for Chris. In the EW interview she raves about her candy dress while saying "Chris only used pillows" (which is not true). She needs to get over it. Her exit interviews cast her in an unfavorable light. I honestly don't think she had the talent to go all the way. Chris does. Jealous much?
Hmmm. Now I am wondering whether the big cheer when Chris returned really translated to, "Hooray! They'll kick him off again this challenge, and the rest of us are safe! YAY CHRIS! Come on back for a brief visit, big guy!"
Has anyone ever seen Ricky's work before the show. Does he have an online portfolio? I cannot believe that someone like him made it on this show!! He is exceptionally boring and untalented. There is nothing remotely remarkable, distinct or interesting about his work. Why was he cast for this show? He is such dead weight. His only contribution has been acting as the season cockroach.
Laura Ingalls? Scarlett O'Hara?
Hell to the NO!
That mess had Harriet Olsen and/or Aunt Pittypat written all over it.
Thank you Lilithcat! You said:
To those who see Kit's design as her take on "domesticity", well, that's a nice spin, but she said explicitly that she was thinking "bird's nest", and "garden". If she had said, "I'm thinking about the bed/home as a nest", it would still have been a horrid garment, but it would have connected, at least vaguely, with the concept. But she didn't say that.
Couldn't agree more! Commenters keep saying that she was talking about nesting and domesticity, but it was clear that she mentioned a bird's nest and gardens - thus the flowery prints.
I am sorry we won't get to see what Kit could've done had she stuck around.
Yikes. Guess I must be a fashion dweeb. I loved Kit's dress; thought it was adorable.
The thing about Kit's bitterness towards Ricky is that if they weren't in teams, his avant-garde dress would probably have beeh worse than hers.
I don't get her bitter comments about Chris, except that as someone else said, she might've been on Christian's team where she clearly wanted to be.
I am kind of obsessing over why people think Kit should have stayed and Ricky gone home. Their whole project was fugly and they both participated. But it was her idea, her design, her choice of fabrics (for the ready to wear too) and all team leaders were up for immunity or aufing UNLESS the other team member had effed up terribly, which Ricky did not. I think all Ricky was guilty of was putting his head down and getting on with his work, secretly glad Kit wanted to be leader. BFD. I am sooooooooooooo over the whole Kit was robbed. Her stuff has been pretty average (sorry TLo I never felt the love for the prom dress) and this dress was a)hideous and b)not avant garde. It looked like a costume from an amateur theater company.
Irrespective of how mean I think Kit's exit comments (on Bravo, EW) have been and how that makes me think she deserves her aufing, this competition is about the challenges and she messed up big time.
The only thing that really bothers me about Kit's comments is that she seems to think Chris contributed nothing to that amazing dress. Come ON. That design was at least 2/3 Chris and 1/3 Christian, so I'm kind of baffled. It's terrible that Chris has become the other guys' whipping boy. All he did was show up with his A game. None of these interviews would have mentioned his name if he'd only lasted another week.
I thought Kit was fantastic and couldn't get enough of her. She didn't come off bitchy to me so much as, y'know, human. Everyone has their moments of pettiness. Sometimes we have the wisdom to recognize and regret them, sometimes we don't. They're in a high stakes competition, one in which Chris poses a clear threat. And let's keep things in perspective. Compared to Jack's virtual Anti-Chris campaign, Kit's snippish little asides were nothing.
Sweet P is a flake. a hot mess. I would of pushed her to wake up and move it too if I got stuck with her.
The team leader is always at stake. Would you panic if you got Christian or Sweet P???? Ramie saved himself.
I agree with anonymous 9:45 am up there -- it WAS more fun before we got all the "extras". I don't enjoy having my illusions about the "characters" created by Bravo shattered, so I don't usually watch the exit videos or the behind-the-scenes stuff. I know that means I'm missing some good stuff (although I also know I'll hear about it all here), but I'm happy to do without listening to the bitter bitter bitterness. Kit's televised exit from the show was gracious and low-key; I want to remember her like that. (Hee hee -- it sounds like I'm giving her eulogy. Like Alison last year, she's GONE, GONE FOREVER, SOB, don't you know.)
I guess I like my reality a little less real.
And guys! Post! Please? You don't want to force me to add comments to this thread forever, do you? I didn't think so. :)
Im not pissed at Ricky for Kit going home, I'm pissed that Ricky didn't go home.
He made the little dress, and the judges said that everything about it looks amateur. Better to make one judgement mistake than to have poor technique.
Apparently there is much hate for this design but I am guessing people have never heard of or seen Lacroix?
I hope Kit has an amazing future she is better than Project Runway. This was a good show and now has jumped the shark with this season.
When I heard her say bird's nest I was looking forward to something remarkable. I've made my share of sculptural nests and I've found some in the wild made with unusual materials: horse hair, lawn-chair filaments,grape vine(birds can be pretty resourceful.) I was thoroughly disappointed with what Kit came up with. The ribbony tangle at the back was sort-of-pretty but not reminiscent of a bird's nest. Sad to say, but she most deserved to go. It could have been wild and elegant, instead it was homely.
Thanks for the forum.
Dale.
Bird's nest dress, huh? What if she had inverted the back of the hoop (perhaps with an underdress so the model's undies wouldn't be the back view? Essentially there would have been a big nest framing the model as she walked the runway. This is not a fully developed idea, but it would have been more avant-garde than what was actually created.
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't hate Ricky or his crying. I thought he was a very decent teammate and in lieu of the circumstances, Rami should have went home for his inability to 1) follow the challenge; 2) put out something different than what we see every week and; 3) work constructively with someone else.
If there were only team leaders to be at risk of aufing, Kit is only guilty of #1 between the two of them. Kit didn't made excuses for her work ("but Tim, you've never seen me do a corset!") or throw her partner under a bus. I am pretty sad right now for Kit :(
Ninjarina
Ninjarina: I agree with you. I rewatched the episode, and I feel that, although I wasn't crazy about Kit's design, at least she had a vision and took some risks. Rami did same old, same old, and he was a lousy team leader on top of it. I think the judges definitely took *his* past performance into consideration when deciding who to send home. It was his two past wins that saved him, not what he did in this particular challenge. IMO.
Miss Tears A Lot's dress was bad, but it was Kit's vision that ultimately got her auf'd. If Ricky got auf'd for the secondary outfit, then Sweet P could have won for hers even though that's not how it was judged. The AG dress is the one that got judged more.
Kit's "middle of the pack role" also didn't help since she didn't stand out in previous challenges one way or the other.
You can take the girl out of the OC, but you can't take all the OC out of the girl. Retract those claws, Kit.
FCOL, who is Ricky DOING backstage?
I cannot believe the crybaby slithered safe once again, sending another (much) more talented designer home!
There is NO WAY I would ever be stuck on a team with Crazy Ricky without forcing him to be team leader, then not listening to him at all. At least he'd take the fall when his talentless, boring baby doll gowns got dissed on the runway.
Sign me disgusted.
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