Team Ricky
Reviewed by TLo
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Tuesday, December 11, 2007
Rating: 5
Team Ricky
Tuesday, December 11, 2007 by Author
Ricky: "I think I should be team leader."
Victorya: "I agree. You do think you should be team leader."
Elisa: "Hi Ricky! I really like your hat."
Ricky: "Sometimes you just need to shut up and let me be in charge."
Victorya: "I don't believe that you really think that."
Elisa: "WHOA! Did the earth just shift on its axis or something?"
Victorya: "You know, I really don't think that you want to do it that way."
Ricky: "You know what, bitch? Why don't you worry about your own shitgasm or maybe go help the hippy chick out with her stuff?"
"Hey guys! Should I make a dress or something? Wow, you look so small from over here."
Oh lord, kittens. Was that team a miasma of passive-aggression, ego, hyperdefensiveness and smack-talking or what?
We couldn't have picked two worse people to be on the same team. Ricky is always ten seconds away from a crying jag and Victorya always seems like she's ten minutes away from stabbing someone with a pair of scissors.
The thing is, they were both right in their own way but one of them was more right than the other. Victorya clearly wanted to lead the team without the downside of having her neck on the chopping block come judging time and Ricky just wanted Victorya to say "You're THE BEST Ricky! How could I ever have doubted you?!"
Neither of these bitches were able to trust the instincts of the other one. While it was good that Ricky helped her with her fit issue, he hovered over her way too much and fretted over every design decision she made when as far as we could tell, she was doing just fine.
It looked to us like Ricky was just reacting to the fact that She was fretting over HIS design issues. Problem was, she was right. Ricky was the one that was having the most problems but he didn't want to hear it.
Let's go to the tape:
Ricky sez: "We're giving the illusion of underwear, the neon was stringing the whole group together and the cutouts were just illusions."
Okay, so TWO out of your THREE requirements were just illusions? What the hell? Actually, all three of them were imaginary because that is not neon. Those are jewel tones with a little bit of bright yellow. And how is it that a lingerie designer lead a team that couldn't make anything that looked remotely like underwear?
Yow. That is FUG.
And poorly put-together fug at that.
We don't get it. Is that bodice supposed to suggest a bra or something? Is that the underwear part of the challenge? Is the netting supposed to suggest cut outs?
Poor Chris had it all wrong. He should have skipped the shoulder pads altogether and just told the judges he was going for the "illusion" of them.
Elisa sez: "If I had not known that I made that dress, I would never think that I made that dress."
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Anyway, we actually liked this one the best. We keep saying it, but Puppet Girl knows what she's doing.
We agreed with Nina that the so-called illusory cutouts could have been done in more sophisticated shapes - and it would have been nice if a couple of them had been, y'know...actual cutouts - but this was a sharp, modern-looking dress.
It's a damn shame they chose satin for the fabric, though because it comes close to ruining this dress. It already ruined Ricky's.
We liked this one too. Liked, not loved.
First, the whole silhouette looks very dated to us and despite Ricky's best efforts to fix it, that bodice is just too tight.
We love the colors she used, even though they weren't neon. She was smart to get rid of that awful yellow. The detail and finishing on the bodice is beautiful. We just don't like the line where the bodice meets the skirt. It draws way too much attention to itself.
All in all, this team was a trainwreck and in our opinion, did far worse than Chris' team in meeting the objectives of the challenge. But they sure were fun to watch.
Victorya: "I think Ricky should go because he totally got up in my grill."
Ricky: "I think Victorya should go because she almost made me cry."
Elisa: "Look! That girl is wearing a dress just like the one I made! Wait. Did I make that dress?"
[Photos:Barbara Nitke /Bravotv.com/- Screencaps: Project RunGay]
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I loved Elisa's dress. I'm not sure what Nina meant by "more sophisticated" cutouts. Curliques? There really wasn't a place for this in the "collection."
And I just noticed that the fabrics weren't neon. I knew there was something wrong there. I wonder why none of the judges noticed? Maybe they were more neon-y in person? Who could tell under that lighting?
Anne
"Wow, you look so small from over here."
Hahaha! Screaming here! Thanks. I needed that.
Your comments on Elisa are HIGHsterical.
Wow. That side view of Victoryuck's dress still makes the model look boobless. Was anyone else a little disturbed when she said that she likes the chest on her models to appear completely flat? Heaven forbid Vicki ever has to make a garment for Heidi! We all know how she loves her rack.
The skirt on Victorya's dress looks like an ice-skating skirt. I kept waiting for Santino to walk in wearing his big furry hat.
Am I the only one weirded out by Victorya's flat-chest thing? It looked horribly uncomfortable (and the model's not overly endowed anyway).
Elisa: "Look! That girl is wearing a dress just like the one I made! Wait. Did I make that dress?"
Hilarious.
And damn, this was one fugly collection. I didn't like any of the 3.
Elisa's model could probably go swing in Manhattan on a clear day with Babs
But there's really only one place for Victorya & Ricky's dresses.
That is so f'ing funny. Exactly what I think Elisa would say.
"Elisa: "WHOA! Did the earth just shift on its axis or something?"
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PRICELESS. LOL.
TLO said:
"Oh lord, kittens. Was that team a miasma of passive-aggression, ego, hyperdefensiveness and smack-talking or what?"
Kind of like PRG.
Oh my God, Elisa is wonderful. She is so ridiculous, but good enough to stick around and amuse. Plus, I bet she's just the nicest person in the world.
I feel like the theme of their look was superheros... too bad Laura wasn't around the save them.
EVERYTHING about this collection was severly FUG! But I must politely disagree with your choice of Elisa's as favorite. A shift dress with little cryola cut-outs? It was Completely amateur.
In decending order of fug, fuglier, fugliest:
1. Victorya
2. Ricky
3. Elisa
I also GAGGED when Elisa said to the judges that she would "of course" choose herself to leave if someone had to go. Barf!
Well, at least she was correct about that. She definitely was the worst of the group.
Ricky is getting on my last nerve. And now I have to hate Victor(YA!)
But Elisa? I'm pulling for that crazy mo'fo'. She is awesome. Doesn't give in to the bullshit, always says something psychedelic, and manages to turn out beautiful garments.
What about the discussion between Ricky and Elisa? That was highly entertaining..."I speak her language." :)
When Ricky said, "I'll be the leader," Victorya should have said, "NFW, you've been in the bottom twice and I won an important challenge," and then she should have been highly directive.
I also found it really patronizing when Ricky was "translating" for Elisa. Elisa and Sweet P managed to make a fine garment without any "translation."
The epi was edited that waterworks looked like a good Prof. Higgins to little Miss Doolittle, and nice enough with VictorYa. The girls' statements on the runway probably saved his ass and the greater cohesiveness of the collection. (BTW his dress had a keyhole in the back).
I still think Ricky or Victorya should have been auf'd instead of Chris. As a collection, it was heinous. I kept thinking 'Wonder Woman' (minus the boobs) when I looked at Victorya's dress.
Love the Elisa screencaps! Would love to see her make it to the end. They won't get rid of her as long as she's entertaining - maybe she should levitate or speak in tongues or something, just to stay in the game.
"The thing is, they were both right in their own way but one of them was more right than the other. Victorya clearly wanted to lead the team without the downside of having her neck on the chopping block come judging time and Ricky just wanted Victorya to say "You're THE BEST Ricky! How could I ever have doubted you?!""
You know, I think these are the same issues that caused Prince Charles & Princess Diana to get divorced. (Well, that and the fact that she wouldn't agree to use Camilla's old strap-on). But I digress...
What I thought was funny was when Ricky was telling Victorya that the dress was making the model look flat chested, & she said, 'I like that.'
Say what?
Yeah, I can see women running out to buy a dress that does that. But I also thought, hmmm... are we finally, actually, seeing inside the mind of a designer who is part of that vast flat-chested conspiracy? The ones who make all those clothes that women beyond a b cup cannot wear? Fascinating.
That, and the fact that she was so illogically contrary that she was making my head spin, so I have no idea how old waterworks didn't just burst into tears, just at the sight of her across the workroom. He must have been dehydrated.
--GothamTomato
"Elisa sez: "If I had not known that I made that dress, I would never think that I made that dress.""
Elisa is turning out to be the dark horse in this race. In that first episode, I couldn't figure out if the hippy chick thing was an act, or for real. But she's shown, through (twice) working with difficult people, without ever losing her cool & abandoning the high road, that she IS for real.
Of course, she just might snap from all the tension; and in episode #8, we'll see her on night vision footage, getting up in the middle of the night, and using a Sharpie to draw moustaches on all of SweetP's tatoos.
But til then, I feel I have been remiss in not saying; welcome to our planet, puppet girl! I hope Elisa makes it to the finals so we can see what a wildly creative show she could put on.
--GothamTomato
I think the recent Enchanted movie (Disney princess, so sue me, it looks cute) is taken from Elisa's life. She truly acts like a Disney character transported to this odd place called New York City.
I think all her things look so great even though they are hand-sewn because she is getting the cockroaches to finish her projects when they go home for the night.
a) I don't know what Ricky was thinking.
b) VictorYa hasn't taken a risk yet, with the exception of her menswear. Eliza's dress is the same as VictorYa's "signature dress". All things you could picture VYA wearing. And fading into the background.
All of the love for Elisa's dress makes me terribly confused. I'm worried that I don't see what everybody else sees.
I love Elisa, but this dress was awful! It reminds me of Bradley's Cher outfit, and it looks lumpy to boot. Please tell me, what am I missing? I'm worried I've fallen from the fashion tree and may never be able to climb back. SOS!
Hilarious post, boys.
I think Elisa's is really the fuggliest. A sack dress with ugly colors just thrown up there to fit into the "collection?" Not so much. Maybe Elisa said "pick me" on the runway because dealing with all these headcases is disurbing her aura too much.
Bless you, puppet girl.
I think Elisa's dress MIGHT look bad because of the material. And that was Ricky's choice.
TG someone else recognized that those colors were not neon!
And Ricky may have been up Victorya's butt, but he nailed it when he said she wanted to be the leader, but didn't have the balls to put her neck on the line.
Love the writing on the blackboard in the first screencap....
I feel you're being just an eensy bit mean to sweet Elisa, but you're doing it with affection (and humor), so I'll live. At least you got her name right -- Heidi called her "Lisa" when pronouncing her safe.
That satin really is an unforgiving material, isn't it?
So Elisa did a slip dress and Ricky's bodice was supposed to evoke a strapless bra. I guess Victorya was doing an homage to the corset? Those things are supposed to cinch the waist, not the boobs.
Elisa does not have a snowball's chance in hell of making it to the finals. Sorry. Any proposal that she might is simple idiocy. She admits, over and over again, that she is NOT a clothing designer, has NO experience, and can not sew.
Um ... puppet girl. Congrats on actually making it on TV. Now please get out of the way and let the other designers do their stuff.
She doesn't know what she's doing. She wastes the valuable time of the others by constantly needing her hand held through the simplest of tasks.
Remember her first dress?? POOING FABRIC.
Yikes.
She seems sweet. And she is always good for a laugh. But in the finals? Please. Get real. That's the biggest laugh of all.
Sweet P will spit-mark that loons face before she gets near her tats.
Camilla's old strap-on? The Vast flat-chested conspiracy?
WTF?
fashion manifesto,
Elisa has already shown her work at Bryant Park and she's been featured in Vogue and Elle, among other magazines. In fact, Vogue named her "one of the top 10 American Designers in the independent realm". Check out her wikipedia entry. She is most definitely a designer.
If I didn't know better, I'd think that VictorYA was on the team that had dancewear!
Elisa's is growing on me, though the material sucked in a big way.
LMFAO.
The little Elisa quotes were really funny. Bravo guys. I am really starting to like her. I really liked that when they asked her who should leave she told them she would always say herself. I thought that was classy and a smart way to avoid the game.
I thought that Ricky should have gone. Hands down. That collection was shit. It was ugly and didn't fulfill the requirements of the challenge.
Its annoying that the judges only choose contestants to stay who have drama. This was Ricky's second or third time on the chopping block, second time specifically for construction issues. But Chris had to go because his Shoulder pads were too big?
I think it was because Chris was a nice, drama free queen.
This season really sux!
"honesty.not.pc said...
I really liked that when they asked her who should leave she told them she would always say herself. I thought that was classy and a smart way to avoid the game."
Yes, but they sent Daniel Franco home for the same reason. "how can you eliminate yourself?," said The Duchess.
I think the bickering between VictorYa and Ricky threw the judges a bit. They couldn't decide how much of that mess should be blamed on Ricky. Chris, on the other hand, was alone out there on the chopping block.
Elisa rocks! I love her! VictorYA is a bitch and Ricky is just a crybaby. Their collection was hideous! So much drama, and yet so little results.
The whole I'm not the leader but I'm going to tell everybody what to do AND you're not allowed to criticize MY dress BS was very annoying.
What is up, girls? What is this thing you have for Elisa? You defend her work every week and seem to be in luv with her or something. That dress she made this week is FUG!!! Seriously Fug. Are you on crack? Does Elisa have a secret alliance with you two to give her good press?
I think both VictorYA and Ricky should have gotten the boot this week.
TLo said...
fashion manifesto,
Elisa has already shown her work at Bryant Park and she's been featured in Vogue and Elle, among other magazines. In fact, Vogue named her "one of the top 10 American Designers in the independent realm". Check out her wikipedia entry. She is most definitely a designer.
Wow, now I have to go read that. Thanks, boys! I think she's amazingly talented. A bit crazy, yes, but most of the great designers are one way or another.
One more note:
Elisa's model has one jacked up walk. She kinda scares me the way she lopes down the runway.
Oh my god... the boobs (or lack of) on that model are insane. Mine hurt just looking at her. Why would you do that?
Thanks TLO for bringing up Elisa's background. If Elisa is not to your taste, that's cool-to each his own. However she is a very experienced designer who simply marches to a different drummer.
Personally the big problem with Elisa's dress is the use of the stiff satin. Imagine that in a soft material like charmeuse in a steel blue/grey. It would have flowed across the runway as the model walked. And I agree some real cutouts would have been nice but it seems she was yielding to Ricky's design ideas.
And if you recall the way Elisa said she would vote for herself, the implication was that she would rather vote for herself then screw over another contestant. I believe that to be sincere. After her near-fatal car crash, I can imagine she has a different outlook on life.
Personally I hope she makes it to the final 3. I know it's a long shot with her relying on handsewing. But if she does make it, I think we can be guarenteed she would produce a collection that wouldn't be boring. Even if it was a mess, it likely would be an inter4esting mess.
Frank
Hey cuties, I have a little comment. When Ricky said the cut-outs were supposed to be "illusion", he was talking about the netting. The netting is called illusion. THAT was supposed to be the cut-out. Although it is hilarious how you guys interpreted it.
Yes, that was total fug, but poorly prepared. Of the three, I liked Elisa's the best, but that still isn't saying much.
Opinions on the candidates? Elisa is moving up the ladder. Ricky is still mid-bottom, and Victorya is just a beeotch. And while Ricky's dress was a hot mess, her design was ughly
"But [Elisa has] shown, through (twice) working with difficult people"-gothamtomato
SWEET P IS NOT DIFFICULT! She taught Elisa how to make a freaking dart!
I'll tell you who is though: RICKY. Mother of christ does that shithead love drama. First he basically calls Jack a backstabbing asshole. I mean, JACK? Could you ever meet a sweeter person in your life? NO. Then there was the VictorYA issue. Ricky was completely at fault, and I think he meant it to turn out that way, honestly. He is SUCH a drama queen; I doubt he gives a sincere shit about what fashion really is, as long as he can cry in front of a camera. He should have been gone last week for that suit. He really hasn't done ANYTHING worth mentioning this season and on top of that, two of the three things he's made himself look like crap (I'm pretty sure Jack sewd the collaborative look for Bitten), and they were COMPLETELY uninspired!Nothing he has made looks half a bit like it could be shown anywhere other than Kohl's, besides his second look, which was A, a complete rip off of VictorYA's three piece collection red dress (which is why she was probably so pissed at him) and B, most likely sewn by Jack! Ugh, SEND RICKY HOME!!!
Oh, and Elisa is definitely winning this season.
"Whoa! Did the earth just shift on its axis or something?"
Thank you for brightening up my cold, snowy, crappy day!
I have to say that you guys are slowly winning me over about "puppet girl"! I hope she stays on the show for awhile, and I think her personality is just the kind of eccentricity (conscious or not) you get with talent. Go puppet girl, go!
Thanks too for the screencaps for Team Ricky. The more I look at them, the more I'm convinced that Chris' aufing was pure bull.
Keep me laughing boys!
" Madeline said...
Hey cuties, I have a little comment. When Ricky said the cut-outs were supposed to be "illusion", he was talking about the netting. The netting is called illusion. THAT was supposed to be the cut-out. Although it is hilarious how you guys interpreted it."
the boys know what illusion netting is because i've seen them refer to it before. I don't know how anyone could look at ricky's quote and think he was referring to illusion netting.
-moira-
"I don't know how anyone could look at ricky's quote and think he was referring to illusion netting."
Especially since Elisa's cutouts didn't use illusion netting.
Those were the three biggest pieces of crap ever to walk down the PR runway. Ricky's looked like Helen Keller cut up the Partridge Family bus and hot glued some pieces together to make what she thought would resemble a dress.
I hated Elisa's too....and VictorYa's at least fit but it was hideous as all get out.
THE WRONG PERSON WENT HOME!!!!!!
RICKY chose that AWFUL SATIN FABRIC!! The hell was he thinking?? It was the worst decision and it affected the entire team because satin is horrible to work with in the context of their designs.
I agree that Ricky had the worst outfit of the three and he should have spent more time fretting over his own work. Perhaps HE should have sought help from his teammates!!
The fit of Ricky's outfit was wretched and the design was sloppy.
Looking at Ricky's track record, this kind of poor construction and lousy sewing is a habit with him. Three strikes and you're out. He should have gone home instead of poor Chris.
Suzanne said...
"Those were the three biggest pieces of crap ever to walk down the PR runway. "
i think santino's lingerie fits that bill.
-moira-
"Mother of christ does that shithead love drama. First he basically calls Jack a backstabbing asshole. I mean, JACK? Could you ever meet a sweeter person in your life? NO."
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I know, right? I cannot believe that Rickey had the nerve to bitch about Jack because he changed models.
Rickey has a victim mentality and persecution complex. When he believes that Jack of all people is out to get him, then he's out of his friggen mind. Rickey is highly tetchy and paranoid.
This insipid crybaby needs to be auf'ed.
"But I also thought, hmmm... are we finally, actually, seeing inside the mind of a designer who is part of that vast flat-chested conspiracy?"
Ya mean like Laura Bennett?
No one loves Laura more than me but if you have anything more than an AA cup you are NOT wearing those necklines she loves without looking hoochie mama.
I have to say props to Elisa for A) not getting involved with the Ricky/VictorYa head games and B) not giving that big bitch Heidi the satisfaction of throwing either of her team mates under the bus." "Of course I should go home" means "fuck you Heidi" in Elisa language.
The more I watch PR Canada and see Iman the more I think Heidi does not give a shit about these designers or their careers.
BTW Moira- funny you should mention Santino's lingerie....just yesterday when Emmett suggested a TLo Bobblehead that says funny stuff, I thought why not an Emmett one that says "Now is not the time to question your vision Santino"!!!!
Looking at Ricky's track record, this kind of poor construction and lousy sewing is a habit with him. Three strikes and you're out. He should have gone home instead of poor Chris.
That makes me wonder (again) what the criteria are for choosing these designers. When people start going home because they really didn't have a lot of talent to begin with, you kind of start wondering how they got there in the first place.
Although Ricky did make that well-constructed lingerie dress for the first challenge - he can obviously sew, he's just imploding.
Anne
VictorYA really has a thing for restraints, doesn't she? First she straps the model's arms down in the first challenge. Then there's the seemingly pointless way she "tied up" the model's neck for the Bitten challenge. And now she's strapping down her model's boobs. I really don't want to see what female body part she goes after next.
But at least I have Elisa to distract me with her bright smile and shiny eyes. Axis shifting. Hee.
Victorya's dress belonged in the Dancewear collection! Her model looks like a ballerina in an updated version of the Nutcracker...were the Suger Plum Fairy is a streetwalkin' Ho!
It's a horror, luvies!
"Ya mean like Laura Bennett?
No one loves Laura more than me but if you have anything more than an AA cup you are NOT wearing those necklines she loves without looking hoochie mama."
Word. Laura's signature long V-neck designs were made for flat-chested women like herself. Nobody above a B-cup could wear her outfits.
However as a flat-chested gal, I love it! Too many women are getting breast implants these days because society tells them that being a flattie is inadequate.
I don't consider it "anti-woman" since quite a large number of us women DO have small breasts!
S.J. Donovan said:
"SWEET P IS NOT DIFFICULT! She taught Elisa how to make a freaking dart!"
I know, right? :)
Just because one person says a thing, over and over and over, doesn't make it so. It just makes the person look obsessed and misguided.
--Team P
Those dresses were all terrible. All of the designs really suffered in trying to do too much. Why did it have to be a stupid team challenge? Why not just update ONE look?
Okay, they had three really tacky, trashy trends to work with- I mean Underwear as Outerwear, Neon, and Cut-Outs ( did anybody else immediatley think crotchless dayglow panties?). Anyway why on earth did they add another tacky trend "Color blocking" into the equation? If I was looking at them not knowing the challange I would think they had to make a color blocked mini dress.
elisa is funny with that weird "fengshui-chakra-spirits" vibe.
but our yogini girl knows how to sew beautiful clothes.
elisa's mantra:
"Om Shanti, Om Shanti
Shanti shanti
Shantay Om"
I mean Underwear as Outerwear, Neon, and Cut-Outs ( did anybody else immediatley think crotchless dayglow panties?).
No honey, you're out there all alone on that one. :D
Anne
"Ricky: "I think Victorya should go because she almost made me cry."
Ha! This collection was ugly and only a shoulder pad could have saved this team
Fugly or not, they went for a pretty cohesive collection, but their execution didn't look too great.
You boys are wonderful. Bill, loved the links -- perfect. The rest of you all have great comments too. So all I can say about this entire collection is:
High School Sewing Class Project:
Use whatever pieces are left over from last year's seniors band uniforms and cheerleading outfits and see what you can do! Remember, have fun!
this post made me laugh out loud many many times
TLO - Thanks for brightening up this gray, icy day! Great screencaps.
And Bill - thanks for the links. You make me long for the good ol' days of Musical Mondays. :-(
profp
HA! It's funny because IT'S ALL TRUE!!!
Wow: from elisa's wikipedia entry
"Jimenez had been picked to appear on the first season of the show but opted out to avoid separating from her young daughter and because of a scheduling conflict."
And of course there is more info at her website elisaj.com, hmmm the photo made me remember "pooing fabric". :)
ROFL!
Ricky doomed everyone with the fabric choices and should have been sent home. I'm beginning to wonder if he is an imposter....an illusion of a designer, if you will.
I'm loving Elisa. Anyone who can tune out that much BS must be fabulous.
At first I thought that the fabrics weren't neon, but then I thought that it might just the TV's incapability to pick up those colors.
I agree that the fabric choice was wrong. The whole collection came off looking very stiff to me.
Oh man. I hope Ricky doesn't become that person who should go home, but just stays and stays--a la Vincent and Wendy Pepper.
Wendy's sneakiness and Vincent's grandiosity were bad enough, but I don't think I can take the crying.
I feel like after four episodes, we now have enough material for a Season 4 drinking game. I've read blogs where people have proposed generic suggestions for drinking games in past seasons (i.e. take a sip of beer whenever Tim Gunn says "make it work," or do a shot whenever Michael Coors says something bitchy.) But after four episodes, I think we can now make it WAY more specific for this season based on the recurring tendencies and character traits this season's designers have already exhibited. Perhaps you and your readers will have additional suggestions.
To play, you would need a bottle of your favorite wine, as well as a bottle of your favorite hard liquor:
1. Take ONE SIP of wine anytime Ricky cries (since this happens so frequently, the drinking requirement would have to be fairly minimal.)
2. Take ONE SIP of wine anytime they show Jack in various stages of undress (i.e. in his underwear, wrapped in a towel, changing into a sarong, etc.)
3. Take ONE SIP of wine anytime Christian refers to something, someone or some entire ethnicity as "fierce."
4. Take ONE SIP of wine anytime Elisa uses the words "imbue," "essence" or "element."
5. Drink an ENTIRE GLASS of wine anytime Elisa uses the words "imbue," "essence" AND "element" in the same sentence.
6. Do ONE SHOT of your hard liquor of choice anytime Kevin feels the need to remind viewers of his heterosexuality.
7. Do ONE SHOT of hard liquor anytime Michael Kors refers to one of the garments as "Mother of the bride."
8. Do ONE SHOT of hard liquor whenever Ricky DOES NOT end up in the bottom two.
Those are just some initial suggestions, but I'm sure there are MANY others.
I mean Underwear as Outerwear, Neon, and Cut-Outs ( did anybody else immediatley think crotchless dayglow panties?).
No, but now I am, thank you very much, Sewing Siren! ;-)
I hated Victorya's dress. That inset looked like a stiff Elizabethan stomacher, and why add such a detail to a simple dancer's outfit? Yeah, she cut the yellow out, but frankly that yellow was the only neon color the group chose. Ricky's construction was poor, but I liked his design more than Victorya's. Reading the blogs, people are all over the place about which outfit they hated or liked. Let's face it, none of them, not a single one of them, was outstanding, not the winners (denim? barf) or Christian's group, whose designs resembled costumes from a Tim Burton movie.
The challenge was bad. Those fads were best left in the past. I love that you guys love Elisa. She and Chris were my favorites. Now only Elisa is left to root for.
Wow, reading Elisa's bio I see that she designed Jennifer Connelly's outfits for the movie Requiem for a Dream. I only saw the movie once, but I remember thinking that the clothes (which Connelly's character was said to have designed) were really ugly. For some reason, there's a scene from the beginning that really sticks out to me where Jared Leto and JCo are blissed out, lying on a floor together, and she's wearing this turtleneck with the shoulders cut out. It's quite ugly and unflattering.
That team would have had problems regardless of who was the leader because there was an obvious power struggle between TWO stubborn people.
Ricky said HE should be the leader and nominated himself right away. He later admitted it was because he didn't want to be micro-managed by Victorya. Right from the get-go, he had issues.
In fact, Ricky was an even bigger control freak than Victorya because at least she was able to listen to someone else's opinion to improve her outfit. In contrast, Ricky refused to allow anyone else to "help" him or give input on his shoddy work. He seems to resent hearing another opinion.
No surprise that Ricky had the worst dress.
Ricky takes everything way too personally. Just like with Jack switching models... Ricky took that as some kind of personal offense. He's way too sensitive and emotional. Total drama queen!
TLo, thanks for the tip about Elisa's wikipedia entry. I read the newspaper article it links to and was impressed by her story.
I didn't know she was almost a contestant on season one.
" brilliant said...
TLo, thanks for the tip about Elisa's wikipedia entry. I read the newspaper article it links to and was impressed by her story.
I didn't know she was almost a contestant on season one."
Can you imagine Elisa, Jay, and Wendy Pepper together?
Loved the TLo recap of this team. Highlarious, indeed.
I wonder why so many designers end up picking satin when it is so hard to work with? That's happened in other seasons and other challenges too, like Chloe in the final Season 2 challenge.
I thought Elisa's dress had the most possibilities and would have been great in a different fabric. And I loved the stained glass, architectural look of the top. I thought it was quite sophisticated despite Nina.
And I can't jump on the Victorya hate pile just yet. It's smart not to be the leader. We all know that and so does she. So she had Ricky be leader then tried to manage the heck out of him to avoid a loss. Her mistake was that Ricky was the wrong person to try that with for a variety of reasons. He and his hats should have been gone.
A drinking game? I'll play, but I'll have to substitute cocoa-dusted chocolate truffles for alcohol.
How about:
1. A bite for one of Rami's superior little half-smiles
2. A bite for every time Kit surprises with maturity and competence
3. A bite for each time you find yourself missing Chris and/or Tim Gunn
4. A bite for every strange little tooth-brushing scene.
Bill- your posts ROCK!
Yomanda- THANK YOU for your comment on Elisa's model. Her walk is distractingly bad.
Although Victorya was definately NOT a great teammate, Ricky didn't step up as team leader adn his outfit was the WORST.
Ricky OUT, bring Chris back and while we're at it, give the win this epi to team STAR!
Count me as an Elisa fan. Victorya's dress looked like a torture device and Ricky's just really brought the fug. Elisa sailed above the stupidity, did the best she could with ass fabric design. Thanks to the others above that commented on Elisa's model. Clumsy knock-kneed.
Is it just me or does Elisa have really good hair? I want her hair. I think I need a drink. Or a toke.
'Elisa sailed above the stupidity, did the best she could with ass fabric design.'
--- I know it's of no importance but oooops, I meant "ass fabric CHOICE"
another laura
I've spent all afternoon fantasizing about how Elisa would have handled Wendy Pepper. I'm seeing Wendy doing yoga and nominating herself for elimination because she admits she has no talent.
Then, in the finals, Elisa's calming influence causes Kara Saun to rethink her shoe cheatery, and she ends up in third place because her models wear crappy $5 Michael Kors shoes.
Elisa, Jay & Kara Saun stop the frenzy of the workroom and do yoga together the night before the show. Sober.
Elisa barely edges out Jay and wins. Jay's show is still amazing and he immediately finds a backer backstage at Bryant Park, and goes on to a successful career designing sportswear on his own label using an American workforce, while doing the occasional Bravo special.
Bravo realizes that what makes the show such a hit is amazing fashion and kindness and quirkiness among the contestants. They cast the offbeat and talented, not drama queens. PF is the most successful show in Bravo history and lasts 20 seasons.
"I think all her things look so great even though they are hand-sewn because she is getting the cockroaches to finish her projects when they go home for the night."
This belongs in the "OH MY GOD" funny category. Thank you
I think Ricky chose the satin fabric to give the "illusion" of underwear, which would have fulfilled one of the trends they were given. Maybe satin trim or small details would have worked better than all out satin. Picture the dresses constructed that way and they could have had nice looks.
i was thinking
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too, at Elisa's comment when her dress was coming down the runway.
"Look! That girl is wearing a dress just like the one I made!"
LOL!
I can't believe these dresses were so blindingly hideous that I completely missed the fact that they were not even neon colored! You're right; those are jewel tones! I didn't like a single thing about this collection.
My god, these outfits are hideous. It looks like the models are wearing candy wrapping. Rick should have been auf'd. Period.
Notice how Ricky's hands are waving? "No, girl, the boobs are supposed to stick OUT!"
Is anyone besides me having trouble with Tresemme's site? I can't drag and drop.
I thought it was Victoria who was to the first to say she most definitely *didn't* want to be leader. So... who you gonna have? Elisa? She didn't look interested at all. So that left Ricky - who was right - Elisa and he would have been micro-managed to death by Victoria is she actually had the reigns of supreme powah.
I also could understand why Ricky picked that fabric - no way you could choose any neon fabric (if Mood even had any besides fleece) and create anything serious. So the next best thing is to find something bright (or shiny) and colorful (or strong) - both found in that satin.
I also point out that Victoria told her model - *not* Ricky-the-leader or Elisa-the-team-mate, "everything will be completely different tomorrow. Don't worry." God knows what she would have done if Ricky hadn't overheard her and called her on it. At least I could see a bit of cohesion in the finished group but I can't image what it would be like if Victoria just waltzed off into her own design.
In the end, both were responsible for the draining energy of their interactions. But Ricky *had* to deal with it, as team leader. Getting up on stage and saying "well, Nina, I basically rolled over like a cat in heat and let Victoria muck me" wasn't going to look good, either.
But, yeah, I can also understand why Chris went. He was a really nice guy but, man, his jacket was boring, boring, boring. The overwhelming camel color of the collection was kinda dull, too. And Steven's outfit was neither a good design nor a good fit for the collection - and, as leader, Chris should have seen that and acted on it.
So, in essence, he didn't seem to lead and I think that's a bigger taboo in these kinds of competitions than simple bad design.
No, actually Elisa was the one who outright started that she didn't want to be the leader. Victorya said she didn't care. Ricky was the only one who said he would be the leader.
I saw very little cohesion in that entire collection with the exception of the jewel tones and fugly satin fabric.
Strangely enough, Elisa's dress was the most disparate one among the three. It was also the most interesting because it was still distinctly her own style.
Ricky's designs were weak and ill-conceived. He had no vision and his execution was wretched.
Ah. That's right. And then Victoria gestures to Ricky and says "I don't care." [shaking her head noncommittally].
So. I guess she didn't care.
I felt for Ricky in this case. He was in a bad spot no matter how things went.
And if Victoria really wanted to be leader (and have her head on the chopping block), then, yeah, pointing out that she'd won a challenge and came in the top at least once more would have shut Ricky up completely.
But I guess she didn't care. {-- mildly sarcastic.
I don't feel bad for Ricky. He's still here, isn't he? After THREE visit to the bottom. The person I feel badly for is Chris. He was cut too soon.
If Rickey didn't want to be the leader he should have said so. Elisa had no problem stating her opinion. He needs to stop crying and grow some balls.
I don't like Ricky but VictorYa clearly did not understand the concept of working in a team or the role of a leader. I don't think she's a bitch, she's just someone who apparently doesn't care about listening to anyone but herself.
I'm thinking that when Elisa was 25 or so, she must have been really sexy.
Like in a dirty hair and sweaty, can of beer and jean shorts, hippie dancin' and patchouli smellin' kinda way. The kind of girl you make out with in a field after drinking a bottle of tequila while the Allman Brothers play on the tape deck of your Volvo.
(I just gave myself a boner.)
VictorYa's dress was really killer in a lot of ways, but that whole SUPPRESS THE BOOBIES phenomenon is just weird. It kinda blew the whole package, no matter how tight the finish.
Elisa's dress looked great last week, and also great in Season One of Star Trek, where Kirk finds the android women.
And Ricky.... oh.... poor Ricky.
"Suzanne said...
Ya mean like Laura Bennett?
No one loves Laura more than me but if you have anything more than an AA cup you are NOT wearing those necklines she loves without looking hoochie mama."
Hmmm...I don't know about that. I don't see hoochie in her dresses at all.
--GothamTomato
"s.j.donovan said: SWEET P IS NOT DIFFICULT! She taught Elisa how to make a freaking dart!"
Yes, she did. Now that you mention it, how on earth did the Nobel Prize committee overlook her for that?
--GothamTomato
"Alex! said...
VictorYa's dress was really killer in a lot of ways, but that whole SUPPRESS THE BOOBIES phenomenon is just weird. It kinda blew the whole package, no matter how tight the finish."
Who the F would want to look so flat-chested like that? I mean, seriously. There's an entire industry out there dedicated to bust enhancement. I want to know what planet SHE came from.
Alex! said...
I'm thinking that when Elisa was 25 or so, she must have been really sexy.
Like in a dirty hair and sweaty, can of beer and jean shorts, hippie dancin' and patchouli smellin' kinda way. The kind of girl you make out with in a field after drinking a bottle of tequila while the Allman Brothers play on the tape deck of your Volvo.
(I just gave myself a boner.)
LOL. Elisa is a lot of fun to hang out with. She's very unique!
You know alex!, I don't know what you're smoking but I hope you stick around. That "I just gave myself a boner" comment caught me by surprise and actually made me laugh out loud.
Anne
"Alex! said...
I'm thinking that when Elisa was 25 or so, she must have been really sexy.
Like in a dirty hair and sweaty, can of beer and jean shorts, hippie dancin' and patchouli smellin' kinda way. The kind of girl you make out with in a field after drinking a bottle of tequila while the Allman Brothers play on the tape deck of your Volvo.
(I just gave myself a boner.)"
Like Anne, I do hope you stick around. That was hilarious, Alex!
Just finished reading bits in an artbook (Rapture: Art's Seduction by Fashion) where 5-6 pages are devoted to Elisa. Interesting sketches, etc, although the artese text is headache-inducing.
So, this is what I understand: Her work has evolved from performance-art/installation costumes to clothes sold to the public in a few galleries & boutiques. She does all the manufacturing (dying, sewing, etc.) by hand. Almost like sculpture, in a way. The direction (and intention) is ART not CRAFT (though, she's got the craft). Naturally, her buyers expect the work to be signed. I imagine it's pretty expensive.
She's not a spaz and could probably use a sewing machine if she wanted to. I hope she gets to the Finals, or at least hangs around for awhile.
Ricky? Just go away.
Victorya? Well, Korean formal dresses and 20s flapper, 60s Swing, etc. are flattening looks so it's not so odd, really. As a flat-chested girl, I can dig it.
Being long-winded at 11:15 PM was desertwind.
Anonymous said...
Just finished reading bits in an artbook (Rapture: Art's Seduction by Fashion) where 5-6 pages are devoted to Elisa. Interesting sketches, etc, although the artese text is headache-inducing...
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing.
I hope she gets to the Finals, or at least hangs around for awhile.
Me too. I would love to see her runway show just to see the look of horror on Nina's face as her designs come down the runway.
How old is Elisa? Her biography says she was born in 1963 which would make her 44. But I swear I saw 42 written under her name on the show.... Hmmm....
Anyway, she is aging extremely well. I think she still looks really sexy, in a natural way - not that plastic surgery SJP way. She's quite attractive and youthful.
As a proudly flat-chested gal, I have no problem with Victorya or Laura Bennetts's design. The entire nip/tuck silicon implant industry disgusts me. So do stuffed bras and fake padding. I find the bias towards large breasts just as restrictive in its own way. It's favoring one type of female form over another.
Some designers favor the full-busomed gals, others don't. Que sera sera.
OOOH! I just noticed how you guys wrote "Project Rungay" on the blackboard in the first picture in this entry! Nice!
Oh, and I'm glad to see that other people were also disturbed by VictorYA wanting to *make* her model flat chested.
And Laura's supa-dupa-low v-necks could NOT be worn by anyone but the flat-chested and not look slutty. Same with tight shirts of any kind-- us fuller-chested gals just can't do it without looking ho-ish (usually).
Asian women tend to be flat-chested. Just like black women tend to have generous bootays. Michael Knight designed for curvier women. I think he was one of the few designers who understood African American women's bodies.
"And Laura's supa-dupa-low v-necks could NOT be worn by anyone but the flat-chested and not look slutty."
Very true.
Fabulous news folks! I just read a note on BPR that Tim's Take will begin with this next show! I guess all our e-mails have worked. The show just isn't the same without Tim giving us the background 411.
I think all these dresses were shiteous. They weren't neon. They had no "actual" cut-outs and they don't look like any underwear I have seen. Unless of course you are talking about some type of tittie suppressing corset.
I think the reason VictorYA wants to suppress the boobies is because she has none and feels everyone should have none. Whatever the case, VictorYA should be waterboarded until she admits she tried to stab Ricky in the back. She wanted to be leader, but didn't want to face elimination. So she tried to set up a puppet regime with Ricky. But alas, Ms Ricky wasn't having it and didn't let her control it. VictorYA should have been sent home.
The best part of last night was Elisa saying she would chose herself. The judges simply don't know what to do with someone who won't play by their rules, but is still so gracious they can't even respond. So they took it out on poor Sweet - what is it - P? - yeah - Sweet P - such a silly fuss she made...but Heidi just used her to work out her frustration over Elisa. Which... in turn...makes me think that Elisa had better watch out - the aliens on this planet may be after her soon...
"Shiteous" -- excellent, Seth!
All I can think of with this collection is "80's porn wardrobe" (i.e. - tacky, ugly, poorly made, and irrelevant). Ricky and VictorYa's garments scream "Van Nuys, 1987." I was waiting for guest judges Peter North and Ron Jeremy. Your post just reinforces that the wrong designer was aufed.
And VictorYa -- designing flattering looks for smaller-breasted women is awesome ... designing looks to make smaller-breasted women look even smaller-breasted and causing them to wince in pain is not.
Seth said, Puppet regime, that is so funny. Victorya's puppet regime.
Laughing my ass off.
(Elisa's) not a spaz and could probably use a sewing machine if she wanted to. I hope she gets to the Finals, or at least hangs around for awhile.
The menswear challenge aside (can we just assume that as a caveat for the rest of the season?), and ignoring that bizarre trail of neon fabric poop on her first dress, all of Elisa's garments so far have been very good.
I would like to see her stick around for a while, if only because she comes from such a different background/creative starting point than the other designers.
It's nice to see someone who who approaches things from an entirely different angle, even if they're editing her into a flakey space cadet.
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Who the F would want to look so flat-chested like that? I mean, seriously. There's an entire industry out there dedicated to bust enhancement.
I can maybe understand "streamlining the contours" or some other designo-babble, and her dress did look sharp as hell, so maybe she's onto something.
On the other hand, not every woman needs David Bowie's body. I dunno what was going on there.
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You know alex!, I don't know what you're smoking but I hope you stick around.
Thanks! Currently my narcotic regimen consists of Sudafed, 100mgs of Vitamin C, some NyQuil, and a handful of Mucinex. Followed with an Orange Juice chaser.
Not very exciting, I'm sad to say.
Wow 111 comments and nobody has mentioned that if you add a golden lasso to Victorya's outfit and an invisible plane to Ricki's then the illusion of Wonder Woman would be complete??
Ricky should have been auf'd. Chris got robbed!
Alex! is an old friend of Tom's, here to reprezent for the straight boys. He also owns the coolest comic book shop in the 5 boroughs, Rocketship.
Just don't call him a hipster. That really pisses him off.
Just don't call him a hipster. That really pisses him off.
I'm coming to terms with it.
I guess.
You all should check out Alex!'s blog and vote for your favorite spaceship, I did (I know I am a weird gay).
brilliant said...
Wow. That side view of Victoryuck's dress still makes the model look boobless. Was anyone else a little disturbed when she said that she likes the chest on her models to appear completely flat? Heaven forbid Vicki ever has to make a garment for Heidi! We all know how she loves her rack.
12:00 PM
Yes, I thought Victorya's preference for the flat-chested look was odd. I don't know any women who want to look boobless in their clothes.
Tami S. said...
Fabulous news folks! I just read a note on BPR that Tim's Take will begin with this next show! I guess all our e-mails have worked. The show just isn't the same without Tim giving us the background 411.
3:33 AM
Ahhh, our voice of reason is back! I thought that he wasn't doing Tim's Take for PR4 because of his own show.
You know if you input the number 55378008 into your calculator and turn it upside down it spells boobless.
You know if you input the number 55378008 into your calculator and turn it upside down it spells boobless.
Excellent point.
Someone should tell VictorYa that her calculator is upside-down.
Alex! is an old friend of Tom's, here to reprezent for the straight boys.
Oh great, him and Kevin can work together on that. Didn't he mention once or twice (or ad nauseum) that he was straight?
Anne
Body language says it all in the pictures of VictorYA and Ricky. VictorYA has her arm crossed in most of the pictures, which says she has no intention of listening to him and has closed herself to his comments.
I'm still puzzled about all the Victorya hate. She stood up for her own design ideas and made good editing choices while Ricky bitched and moaned about not having time to finish his because he had to help the other two, then bitched and moaned about her not consulting him on every minute detail of her piece. Victorya is a bit intense and very opinionated, but she gave Ricky credit where it most mattered: on the runway. I think it's telling that she at least has the integrety to be honest even when her own neck was on the chopping block. I really am confused about why everyone hates her so much, designers like Laura, Jay and Christian have stood up for their own designs and have been very vocal about their opinions of other designers, but to the masses they're "fabulous bitches", while Victorya does the same thing and is termed a terrible person? Are we just not ready for an Asian woman who has the gumption to stand up for herself? As much as I loved Diana, I think it's refreshing to see an Asian woman not be bulldozed under by the other strong characters in the room.
Rickey is just a controlling neurotic bitch.
Jack changed models. Rickey cries that he's a backstabber and showed his "true colors".
Victorya isn't happy with her design and wants to change it. Rickey whines that she's passive-aggressive.
Pot meet kettle.
When is this annoying gnat gonna leave???? This is like Wendy Pepper all over again.
Chris got robbed.
"Are we just not ready for an Asian woman who has the gumption to stand up for herself?"
Oh please. Do NOT go there.
Two words: Chloe. Dao.
I liked Ricky's "jazz hands" in screencap #6, but other than that- it was "nothing to see here folks, keep it moving."
OMG, how funny was Elisa? And I have to admit, as much as I really do not like Ricky in general, he kinda endeared himself to me in this episode with his whole high-as-a-kite-modern-dance-instructors schtick: "Yeah, find your center! Sculpt the fabric!" From the editing it seemed like he gave her little to no substantive advice, but she certainly responded to his gobbledegook in a positive manner: her dress was easily the best of the three.
Then he exhausted all my goodwill by being Ricky again. I really think he should have been auf'ed last week.
VictorYA is not an endearing bitch like others in the past. She comes off as just a bitch and that is why people don't like her.
Same goes for Ricky. He's a bitch. A crying hypocritical bitch. Not in the least endearing. That's why people are sick of him!
Pew! I've really had it with the crying too. But Elisa is growing on me.
I can't figure out if VictoRya is a b*tch or if they're just editing her badly, but I do think she didn't want to be team leader to avoid Heidi's Kiss of Death if her team lost. Having let Ricky wear the noose, she could've tried to let him lead though. The world is full of people who push you around if you let them. If there's one lesson Ricky gets out of PR, I hope it's that one. Frankly, I can't believe he's lasted this long. He's not very good, the judges dislike everything he makes and he's already been bottom two, what 2 or 3 times?
And I have to say, hearing a woman say, "I like it flat" when talking about another woman's bust, is not my idea of a nice, or even sensible female designer.
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