Well, let's start with the obvious: draping. To our eyes, he can be accused of returning to that well five times out of eleven. That's a lot, but still not as much as we would have thought. He also returned to that twisted fabric trick we dislike so much five times and turned out skirts with pleating or ruffles four times. It seems clear to us that these are the three design elements that pretty much define him as a designer. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but out of the three finalists, he's the one most locked into his comfort zone and does the worst when he's forced out of it by the competition. Witness the menswear, avant garde and wrestling looks to see how he morphs from a talented designer to a near-disastrous one when faced with a hurdle. Although to be fair, the Hershey's challenge was outside his milieu and he managed to knock that one out of the park.
He seems to have an aversion to prints and when he uses color, it tends to be very muted and understated. He also doesn't appear to have any time for trim or embellishments. He loves fabric and he loves to make fabric do tricks for him on the dress form. And to his credit, he's very, very good at those tricks.
Rami's whole stated design philosophy is to make women look and feel beautiful. That is, of course, a wonderful philosophy for a designer to have. Thing is, it's kind of...pedestrian. We'd wager that almost all womenswear designers have that as one of, if not the, main goals of their work. To say so is to state the obvious.
When he's on his game, he can definitely accomplish his main goal by turning out beautiful (if slightly boring) dresses that compliment the female form and make her look beautiful in a classic sense. Our main criticism (and one which is fortified by seeing all these looks side by side) is that his aesthetic looks, well...old to us. Not just old in the old-fashioned sense but old in the "My imaginary client is over 50" sense. Again, that's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does have the distinct whiff of "niche" all over it. Christian is exactly the opposite and tends to design almost solely for the under 30 crowd. It remains to be seen which one the judges will respond more favorably to, but it bears repeating that fashion is always about the new thing or the next thing. We're not so sure that Rami can compete on that level.
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Though I didn't think Rami totally blew it this season, I did find him to be just a little arrogant....I think the whole alleged tie with Chris at the end may have humbled him a bit. I say "alleged" because that was contrived reality TV if I've ever seen it.
He was quite the eye candy though. My PR viewing partners, 2 gay men. drool over him every Wednesday. Cannot say I blame them.
I agree wholeheartedly. When PR4 first began, I thought Rami had the most promise as the winner. After seeing everything unravel, (hehe) over the past umpteen weeks I would say his look doesn't offer much as far as the potential to evolve and would be surprised to see him as the chosen one.
"if slightly boring" Key phrase. Drape #1 was fab. By #3, definitely boring. By #5, yawnfest. But he's so damn cute...
I just looked through his website at his collections. It is clear that he brought all his old designs with him and used them as the challenges seemed to fit them.Others did this this season, but his are really obvious, maybe because there are more to see out there in webland.
I still think at big gray mess (with that big dead flower!) from week 1 is ass. Or grandma's curtains. All the more so when you see it side by side with everything else he's done.
If his clients are in the 50-65 year old category, I cringe a little. Draped, flowing fabric framing a crepy décolleté? That screams "mutton dressed as lamb", to me!
He's a bit overrated. The gowns can be lovely, but yikes! Overall his designs definitely scream 'certain stage of life'.
I just don't respond well to his aesthetic.
It's kinda blah to me.
Like after seeing the judges get so riled up over his first dress (which I hated...makes her look large and stumpy and it's an ugly color...) I was like ok, so you have the credentials...but do something that I want to look at more. The only that did that for me was the hershey's challenge.
And color me confused about who is client is supposed to be because I think all his garments age the person, and I refuse to believe that his drapy gowns are going to flatter the average woman over 40.
I still can't believe how much I don't like that first look of his (and I really still can't believe it won)! Rami has been a big old "eh" for me, and whatever redemption arc he tried navigating by holding hands with Chris at the reunion, he negated with that one post-finale interview where he trashed Chris's collection. Not cool at all.
I think his stuff is the type of clothing that is very luxurious and makes a woman feel as such. If you went to him, he'd probably be a gentleman, and clients no doubt love him.
But, looking at his color palette, I have to wonder --what the heck?
Still, I have to give him points for listening to everyone and stretching himself for the final by looking beyond draping for inspiration.
But I agree with TLo. Jillian and Christian have that edge of "what's next" and what's possible.
The only creation of Rami's that really wowed me was the candy dress!! The rest on elicit big yawns on my part.
Though I think Rami has a really pleasant personality, and is definitely a "looker", his designs leave me wondering, "Is this all there is?".
-----StkrShock
All it took was one look at the heavy draperies w/ the "flower" in episode one for me to go peace-out permanently on Rami. Don't get how he's cute, either, but to each his own.
It's great to see the looks side by side, presents a whole new perspective. I wouldn't have thought that his overall collection would be so colorful for example.
It seems that Rami is the one designer who refused to grow. He stuck to his asthetic, defending it at every turn even though the judges asked him again and again to do more. Finally, and reluctantly, he constructed some things but made it clear that it's not his bag. I simply cannot fathom that he would win this thing (or even that he made it this far).
I am in my 40's and live in a conservative state. (Nothing too short, no cleavage). Isn't that Rami's demographic? I wouldn't even consider wearing that stuff and can't see it on anybody else I know, either.
I think he is talented and do wish him well. I really do. He'll go back to his successful business and carry on with what works for him. I believe that we will see his drapey dresses on the red carpet for years to come.
Thanks for your tireless hard work boys.
Looking at the whole collection, I don't necessarily think his designs are for women of a certain age. He's got 3 little flared minis, and 1 longer flared sundress. Leaving off his weight loss challenge design (which was age appropriate, if unflatteringly high-waisted), the prom dress is the only one that's really ladies who lunch.
His most successful designs are the Levi's dress & the candy wrapper dress, both more youthful than not, and neither draped. I think the real problem is that too often his proportions are off just enough to be unflattering. Oh, and the styling: all those severe hair styles in the first several challenges didn't help matters.
He'll go back to his successful business and carry on with what works for him. I believe that we will see his drapey dresses on the red carpet for years to come.
No doubt, and he deserves all the plaudits he can get. The 100 thousand is nothing compared to the exposure he's gets from PR4. And it's the type that just keeps going... into rerun heaven (or hell).
Still, I know the judges could easily pick him to win.
Ah well.
Off to work, now. Sunny day, full of pollen.
Yes, Rami's work tends to skew matronly; and also true that fashion is always looking for The Next New Young Thing.
But with this whole '60 is the new 30' mantra, Rami might still have a shot, because that time travel would render Christian an egg.
That said, I think all the designers have their comfort zones. Jillian is the only one who consistantly pushed herself outside it. But with Rami, it could be purely commercial/marketing.
He already has an established business, and even if he doesn't win, all the TV time was worth more than the 100K prize. And he presented himself and his vision in a way consistant with that.
--GothamTomato
Phenomenally boring. No prints. Muted colors. "Pedestrian" indeed.
I don't care about his "skill" when his finished product is Sooooooooo uninspired. Completely underwhelming.
And I'm so tired of hearing him referredto as "cute" or :hunky." He never did a thing for me. Looks a little too much like "Mr Clean" for me.
"But with this whole '60 is the new 30' mantra, Rami might still have a shot, because that time travel would render Christian an egg."
Huh??
Because Rami's clothes are matronly and look like they belong on the age 60+ AARP set, he is actually "in" because 60 is the new 30??
Rami will not win .... because he is incapable of creating young, hip, fresh designs.
I don't claim to know what Jillian's "comfort zone" is, but I DO know that if it's was jacket or a coat she was making, or something for the "horsey set" she seemed VERY comfortable ... after all, she created one damn jacket/coat after another - which contradicts the notion that she "pushed herself outside" of anything.
Jillian and Rami both suffer from the same repetition affliction. Neither deserves to win in my opinion.
bg said...
If his clients are in the 50-65 year old category, I cringe a little. Draped, flowing fabric framing a crepy décolleté? That screams "mutton dressed as lamb", to me!
As someone at the limit of the 50-65 demographic, I agree with bg and would only add that we golden oldies need sleeves!
thescot
I don't know a single woman over 50 who would wear this stuff. I mean, come on. That last look has an open back. What women over 50 do you know??
Anonymous said...
I don't claim to know what Jillian's "comfort zone" is, but I DO know that if it's was jacket or a coat she was making, or something for the "horsey set" she seemed VERY comfortable ... after all, she created one damn jacket/coat after another - which contradicts the notion that she "pushed herself outside" of anything.
She did exactly three jackets/coats. Bit of hyperbole there, wouldn't you say?
"GothamTomato said...
But with this whole '60 is the new 30' mantra, Rami might still have a shot, because that time travel would render Christian an egg."
LOL, or a Hershey bar in his father's back pocket?
I'm not a big fan of draped dresses, actually I never owned anything draped. But I absolutely love some of the stuff Rami made. It made me think that draped isn't so bad after all.
Actually I think it depends on the woman. Over on the BPR site they posted a woman who won Rami's prom dress and it looks way better on her than on the teenage girl. She hardly looks like some 40+ year old
that said, I do applaud Rami's draping skills and he does have a niche in fashion that will no doubt will continue to serve him. The man does have talent and can conjure a glamorous dress. In his final collection there were outfits that were beautiful but sadly outfits that were repetitive that I felt indifferent to.
I think where there may an issue in the future is when he needs more employees to help construct the dresses so he can focus and running his business and just design. Those tricks seem to be his signature and so he'd need to find people that can create with the same technical skill.
I don't see him as someone who will advance fashion very much, which is okay. he doesn't need to be. Whatever his talents, Rami is not the most editorial, innovative or risk-taking designer from this season. And this may be a more relevant factor in the final judging, less so construction and technical skill.
Frank
I have to say again that I just love looking at the designers work all lined up like this, and unlike some others I like the fact that many of them use have a common thread running through each challenge.
He does seem to really be in love with the female form and his work is more about making the client look good than himself. His work style makes me think of Balenciaga. I also get the feeling that his usual way of working is to start with the fabric rather than a sketch (which is more common amongst female designers by the way).
I think is work lacks novelty and it certainly isn't faddish,which is not a bad thing in a very high end market.
Also I wouldn't count the wrestler costume as a drape (per say). But I love how he got that little neck drape in on the denim dress, and the twist at the bust of the weight loss challenge.
I think someone posted yesterday that he is self taught! That is amazing to me. Anyway I hope he finds a backer. He deserves it.
I sure wish I had bid on the weight loss challenge outfit.
Siren would be smoking hot in that!
I also found him to be a bit arrogant, especially when he said that he has a more sophisticated design philosophy than American designers. I was offended by that, especially when he didn't deliver the goods to prove it.
I really have to disagree this time.
I look at the Levis, The Candy, the museum dress and they all seem very youthful to me...even his online challenge is very young looking. I read he's also dresses Jessica Alba, Paris Hilton and Lindsy Lohan...I would consider them young for sure :)
I adore his designs quite frankly and hoping he wins :)
I don't know that I would pigeonhole Rami and Christian's target client as "over 50" and "under 30." I see a Rami client as someone who goes for the classical influences and refined beauty and the Christian client as someone who veers towards the trendy and attention seeking wow factor. Neither of which are a bad thing, and neither of which are exclusive to the older or the younger generation. Jessica Alba is far from matronly, and she looked very cute in that turquoise Rami design she wore to the VMAs. I don't think it aged her unnecessarily, either. Of course, it wasn't edgy or fun, which is the way I'd go if I was a young hottie going to the VMAs, but I'd consider an impeccably draped Rami number for the Oscars.
Hmm I disagree also.
I know womens designers design for various types of women, but I must say that I think Christian designs for himself, while Rami does in fact design for a women's body.
I would also disagree that younger women/girls would go for all that black, over the top and restricted garments of Christian's. It's funny, I love this blog, but I was thinking the complete opposite of TLO.
I also think to have recognizable aesthetic or signature is the thing that a successful designer strives to achieve.
I see that in Rami for certain, not so much Jillian. I think Christian is on his way, but I must say he looks limited to me right now.
I think the beige Members Only jacket he created for Tiki Barber says it all.
By the way. I count six garments created by Jillian that can only be described as a jacket or a coat.
I just saw for the first time how little in the way of sleeves that Ramilicious did. It's not odd, given the time constraints, I suppose, but I'm surprised that I didn't notice it before. Trust to TLo when they combine it all for us! As (almost) always, I agree with the assessment.
Hot bod, boring design for the most part. Frankly, I was surprised that people went bats**t crazy over his first week grey drape number. Loved that Hershey's challenge dress, though.
I didn't care about the arrogance, but I did care about his lack of flexibility. (tee hee, not THAT flexibility, you horny beasts!)
Rami's designs are sophisticated, gorgeous and chic. You can be under 30 and desire and BE those things. Trust me darlings. :)
I know it's only 11 looks, but I see much variation...in color alone and yes both tailored and draped also, unlike some of the other designers.
I also don't see a problem with 4 or 5 of them being a draped aesthetic. This is all still so weird to me. So why doesn't anyone get on Christian or anyone else for always doing restricted patterns or the same color? Where's that variation? If you get on Rami than where is a dress of Christian? I just don't get it.
I just don't like his aesthetic. It's nothing personal; it's just not my thing.
Rami has middle-east tendencies in his designs. Natural, of course because of his background & upbringing. You can see that in almost all his clothes.
There's nothing wrong with it, and his skill is impecable (probably the best of all the contestants).
I just don't see him winning the whole she-bang.
However, he sure has a future in draping towels!
I think saying his designs cater to the over 50s is a little too narrow, don't you think? Especially because we know he dresses some of the young Hollywood starlets. His syle is more classic and only apppeals to certain people (and some of the people on this blog are clearly not the people who like it), but he has a market and will do well. He's not cutting edge or avant gard, but I care not, because I guess I'm not either.
And as for all the drapery, some on here act like it's easy and no big deal, but he does very labor intensive and meticulous work, and that's why the judges applaud his work and he's in the finals.
I look at the side by side pics and it actually dispelled the 'draping' thing for me. More than half of it is not.
The What's the Skinny look (reconstruction of an existing garment for a women that lost a lot of weight) is on Yahoo's top 10 looks for the entire season.
I remember Tim loving that look too. That is a hot skirt if you see the close up pics and yes - done for a real women's body. What a strange coincidence that Christian got THE skinniest model for that challenge to do his skinny jeans again. Hmmm... LOL!
I hope Rami wins.
"renee said...
So why doesn't anyone get on Christian or anyone else for always doing restricted patterns or the same color? Where's that variation? If you get on Rami than where is a dress of Christian? I just don't get it."
Where have you been? That's been the number one criticism of Princess.
"Fashion Manifesto said...
By the way. I count six garments created by Jillian that can only be described as a jacket or a coat."
How? I only count 4 if you include the menswear challenge.
What bothers me about Rami is his unwillingness to step out of his comfort zone. He could do much more. He's very talented and has done well. Did you see the size of his studio as opposed to Christian's tiny little table and space?
I see much more in Rami than a few others or even TLO does on this post. Maybe because I've become a fan of his, and found some of his other work. He has some work/shows on YouTube. Beautiful! Much more to see than just these 11 looks.
I actually like Rami's Men's jacket. It's a bit of what I see in Europe. It also auctioned for the highest priced Men's Wear look that episode.
Don't forget some criticized Christian for his "80's looks", but trends come back and get reinvented.
The worst look here is the WWE, but who really cares. It does look like those playgirls on "The Girls Next Door" - actually so does that wrestler/model. I read he did what she wanted, but he said in Entertainment Weekly that he hated that challenge and has no desire to design such things.
I think Rami has what it takes. Yes, a signature look is key in a designers success. To be able to look at a garment and say "that is Gucci" or "that is Issey Miyake" or that is "Rami Kashou" is already a big win.
I would love to see Rami win tomorrow.
Excellent anaylis!
Seen side by side, there is more variety than I remember. I guess I just don't like his attitude of "this is what I design." The situation and client has to fit his dress and not the other way around.
I left a thought out of my prior post, and I know you're all DYING to hear.
So I noticed all the sleeveless looks, and when I put it together with his (supposed) target clientele, one of my thoughts was, not good news without some kind of 90s wrappy-thing to go over it. No woman over 40 has good elbows anymore. Unless they're getting elbow tucks ...
One word for Rami, TIRED. I find all of his looks to be tired, stale and matronly.
He isn't edgy at all, he appears to work from a point of view that is 20 years behind the rest of the world. Maybe it's because he is foreign, who knows. But I don't like anything he does.
I do think he shows exceptional talent and skill but he hasn't given us that commitment to reinventing his own aesthetic which is the true sign of a fashion genius.
I really love seeing these next to each other.
Rami may have went into "his comfort zone" during the competitive month at Parsons to film the season, but sorry guys so did Christian and some of the others. I didn't see Christian at all going out of his comfort zone much either. During the "what the skinny" challenge to make a commercial looks for ~~ a skinny legged women? :)
Rami nailed the "hersheys candy" look and the "Levis" look, which to this audience may be out of his "comfort zone" I have also seen his other and know that this is not out of his comfort zone, that he can easily do it if he chooses ~~ and WIN (candy look) for that matter!
I love the last inspiration museum dress. I'd wear it too Heidi! :)
renia said...
I really love seeing these next to each other.
Rami may have went into "his comfort zone" during the competitive month at Parsons to film the season, but sorry guys so did Christian and some of the others. I didn't see Christian at all going out of his comfort zone much either. During the "what the skinny" challenge to make a commercial looks for ~~ a skinny legged women? :)
Rami nailed the "hersheys candy" look and the "Levis" look, which to this audience may be out of his "comfort zone" I have also seen his other and know that this is not out of his comfort zone, that he can easily do it if he chooses ~~ and WIN (candy look) for that matter!
12:42 PM
That is a HUGE difference between one singles aesthetic or look and one single technique. Rami does the latter 98% of the time.
Sorry to say Miss Nancy - I'm never gonna buy that. From Dita Von Teese (edge/classic beauty) to Jessica Alba(youthful/fashionista)??
Ahh I strongly suspect you're the one that's "tired"
Yup another Rami fan here.
I'm gonna admit I was on the draping band wagon, but after this collage and Rami's 3 piece online challenge, that myth has been dispelled for mwah.
Also that black gown from last week. Wowziwoowoo! That was gorgeous!
I'm Chris fan, but gonna give props to Ramilicous.
someone posted the auction winner of that green prom dress on facebook. she looks fierce in it.
the 1st episode, levis, candy and last museum looks are my favs.
this is the first year i'd be happy if any of the 3 finalists won.
but being 'a gay' (so many girls on here ;-) i'm gonna lean to rami and christian.
gonna go even further and say rami cause i'd want him to dress AND do me. holla!
Rami is the best example of why it's not so great for the show to have such well-established designers. He was obviously just in it for the exposure (and maybe $100 grand and a car)--he has no intention of changing up what he does or pushing the edge of the fashion curve. He took no direction from either the judges or Tim. And why should he? He knows what he is doing and he has a nice business making nice clothes.
If the judges give it to him, it's like they're saying, "please, don't come on this show if you are up-and-coming and want to learn and move fashion forward. Come on this show for the publicity."
Then again, they gave it to Chloe, so maybe that is the whole point.
Well Ms Kyle, I am offended by your remarks. Why am I not entitled to my opinion? Why do feel you have the right to call me names just because my opinion is not the same as yours? I didn't attack Rami personally. I stated my opinion about his style. But you feel the need to drop names of people as if that makes a difference to me. Those ladies mean nothing to me and I don't care what they are wearing.
I would hope that TLO would remove your offensive remarks. People are entitled to their opinion and just because you don't like it doesn't give you the right to degrade someone.
Miss Nancy, of course you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.
I did not say anything you didn't say about Rami. I used the word "tired" - and so did you.
I'm not name dropping, I'm stating things I've learned on the web. No harm in that either. I didn't "degrade" you - but it's fine for you to "degrade" Rami then (even if that what that is)?
Very hypocritical.
moving on....
There is a difference between saying that someone's designs are tired than saying a person is tired. If you don't know that, then I can't explain it to you. I said Rami's design's were tired, not Rami himself, you implied I was, personally. That is what is offensive. You took an opinion of clothing and turned it into a personal attack against me. I didn't degrade Rami, I made no mention of anything personally about him. Why did you feel I attacked him personally?
I think ya'll have some serious sefl examination to make about all of the Rami hate lol.
I also noticed that the dress winner from Blogging Project Runway and the weight-loss model look better in Rami's clothes than the professional models did. Could he be that rare jewel-- a designer whose clothes look better on real people?!
Rami was sort of in a "can't win for losing" situation on PR. He makes a certain style & tone of sophisticated look and the producers approached him to try out. Once on the show, he found he was dinged by judges for doing what he does.
It's interesting that he produced his best work when he was not only forced out of his comfort zone, but really got into the spirit of a challenge. (weightloss & Hershey's) Perhaps if he was less competitive and able to say "oh, what the hell" more often, he would've produced more interesting work for the show.
His situation was not unlike Chris's, really. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
On the one hand, if he hadn't shown that tailored coat in the mini-challenge he might not have made it to the final 3. On the other hand, I think his final collection was made weaker by including the tailored day pieces. They just aren't his strength.
If he'd sent 12 evening looks down the runway in the same spirit as his two dresses in the mini-challenge (see his Los Angeles shows) he still wouldn't stand a chance of beating the wunderkinder, but it would've made a hell of a show.
Tim touches on this in his last Tim's Take when he asks if "Rami" isn't being lost in his strategy of trying to appeal to the judges rather than just doing what he does so well. Tim also mentions that Rami had a clear answer of who his client is (while poor Chris said "I don't know")
Aw, well. God love 'im and good luck.
-- desertwind
Me. Nancy, I didn't feel you attacked him personally at all. Why do you feel I attacked you personally? I was referring to your style (from your opinion on his designs) I'm entitled...similar to you referring to peoples designs.
...and yes anon, agreed - any 'hate' (especially in this reality tv/fashion arena) usually means an self-issue has been triggered.
This conversation has now become "tired"
again...moving on...
and yes anon, agreed - any 'hate' (espically in this reality tv/fashion areana) usually means an self-issue has been triggered.
old in the "My imaginary client is over 50" sense.
Uh oh. I'm officially old?
All I can say is, when you get to THIS side of 50 you realize that you don't get OLD till you hit 80!
Still kickin'
-Ignatz
Very good point desertwind.
Chris and Rami were both put in a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" postion big time.
Maybe to trip them and stear the game towards one of the other finalists?
I'm just glad Chris and Rami are good friends and both showed. I would be happy if Rami won it all at this point.
Re Rami's lack of embellishment or trim -- if you go to BPR, there are some pix of a gal who won his prom dress in the auction and wore it to a wedding in Aruba.
She's an attractive blond in her mid-late twenties. I was wrong to think that loose drape part was fugly and the color was a drab olive. It was a total misfire for that particular teenager and prom, but the dress looks beautiful on this young woman and is perfect for the occasion.
Click on the photos to see the enlargement. I didn't realize he'd used ribbon and it's a very pretty touch.
-- desertwind
Why do you feel I attacked you personally?
Ahh I strongly suspect you're the one that's "tired
Because you don't know me and I am not a designer. So it's inconceivable that you could be attacking my style having never seen me or read anything saying I was a designer. It's really lame to have to explain why you are being offensive and your attempt to justify it.
I agree completely...his stuff is consistently good, but boring. With the exception of the hershey's dress (which is brilliant) his (forced) attempts at a different aesthetic fail completely. This includes the new coats from his collection, which are terrible.
The colors he uses, and the design...it is all very boring and "ladies who lunch."
Rami won't win. He may have been a judges pet, but he will not win. Christian is going to win.
Rami doesn't have the versatility to be a top designer. I like some of his things, but only the ones that are not draped.
Can we go back to the main subject of our post? No personal attacks, please. Thanks!
T&L
If I were a venture capitalist, and the three came to me with prior designs, a record of doing business and a business plan, more than likely, I'd go with Rami. I really do like his design sense, I like the way he comes across as professional.
But it's reality TV and so I have the luxury of pulling for the kid without much money, and the girl with the mom who always told her she'd be big someday.
*cocktails anyone?*
Anonymous said...
Re Rami's lack of embellishment or trim -- if you go to BPR, there are some pix of a gal who won his prom dress in the auction and wore it to a wedding in Aruba.
She's an attractive blond in her mid-late twenties. I was wrong to think that loose drape part was fugly and the color was a drab olive. It was a total misfire for that particular teenager and prom, but the dress looks beautiful on this young woman and is perfect for the occasion.
Click on the photos to see the enlargement. I didn't realize he'd used ribbon and it's a very pretty touch.
-- desertwind
While I didn't think Rami's dress deserved the win in the Prom challenge, I always thought it was absurd that he was called out in the bottom three. There was more to that dress than "we" could see, but those silly judges would have been able to see all that detail. The quality of his work is amazing.
TLo, you know I love you to bits, but sweeties this has to stop. It's fine to say that something seems matronly or aging, but please don't put the "old" label on something and say it must be for the over-50 set.
When you hit your 40's, your near vision starts to deteriorate but we don't go blind at 50. Rami's stuff looks old because it is old. As in ancient Greece old. It's not a look most women are willing to wear regularly regardless of age. Evening wear maybe but not anything else. That's Rami's real problem. His draping style doesn't transfer easily to anything beyond gowns. Aphrodite might go for it but last I checked she's waaaaaay over 50.
Anonymous said...
Rami will not win .... because he is incapable of creating young, hip, fresh designs.
I don't claim to know what Jillian's "comfort zone" is, but I DO know that if it's was jacket or a coat she was making, or something for the "horsey set" she seemed VERY comfortable ... after all, she created one damn jacket/coat after another - which contradicts the notion that she "pushed herself outside" of anything.
Jillian and Rami both suffer from the same repetition affliction. Neither deserves to win in my opinion.
11:11 AM
Judging by your post I would venture to guess you are a fan of Christian. Do you realize that he made 8 jackets in 11 challenges?
I find that rather amazing, but according to you it is "repetition affliction", no?
Speaking as someone who is officially "old" (over 50--but with toned arms and back, and uncrepey decolletage, none of which anyone has ever complained about seeing)--Rami's designs, though unquestionably well-made, look TOO old to me. I would feel more comfortable in (toned-down versions of) Christian's looks. Which I suppose just suggest that personal style is more the issue here than chronological age. But beyond that, I do agree that regardless even if one likes them, R's clothes just don't seem that interesting; there are many outfits I enjoy wearing that I don't consider really interesting from the perspective of fashion, and I think that at best, R's creations fall into that category.
Oh yes, the eye candy dress, the levis, the men's, the wwe and the museum look would be a perfect fit for a 50 to 60 year old. LOL!!
This is really silly. I've seen some mini's from Rami that only 18 year olds could wear :)
I saw the green prom dress too on bpr. It really looks fabulous on her and in that better picture!
"Rainwood said...
TLo, you know I love you to bits, but sweeties this has to stop. It's fine to say that something seems matronly or aging, but please don't put the "old" label on something and say it must be for the over-50 set.
......Aphrodite might go for it but last I checked she's waaaaaay over 50."
Thank you, rainwood! I ditto those thoughts and loved the Aphrodite remark! I'll be turning 50 later this year and am looking forward to it. But hell if anyone dare use any grandma terms to my feers self! :-D
As for Rami, he's got his niche and will have plenty of clintele. He'll do very well for himself.
I have two words to describe Rami's clothes this season: absolute crap.
Polls are great and it's curious to see what people think, but unfortunately this isn't American Idol where the people vote. The judges (Nina, Duchess, Heidi and Posh) and the ones who will decide.
Since I have disagreed with many of their choices this year, I won't be surprised when they don't follow the "fan" trend. Christian will win. I guarantee it.
Well with the Baby boomers becoming senior citizen's Rami should have ample clientel
"bitchesdye said...
Rami is the best example of why it's not so great for the show to have such well-established designers. He was obviously just in it for the exposure (and maybe $100 grand and a car)--he has no intention of changing up what he does or pushing the edge of the fashion curve. He took no direction from either the judges or Tim. And why should he? He knows what he is doing and he has a nice business making nice clothes."
Thanks for mentioning that...I think that may be a big reason why this season was not as much fun to watch. And it wasn't just Rami.
I love Rami's designs. Beautiful I'm rooting for him!
Looks like people are getting revved up for tomorrow night.
Maybe we need a new post? :)
loved the what's the skinny challenge. thought rami's was one of the best. kevin's and rami's were fantastic that show.
I think they should do 2 things next season (if there is one):
1. Get new judges-Nina and Kors should be out. They are too jaded.
2. Limit the contestants to non-professionals-like American Idol. Folks that already have their own shop and clothing line shouldn't be in the "amateur" contest. If not, let Donna Karan, Calvin Klein, Zac Posen and others enter.
That would make the show better.
Zander, I agree with you. The judging is the real problem with this season. I think Heidi should also be replaced because, as somebody above so ably put it, she judges based upon what she wants to wear. Who on God's green earth can wear what she wears? Her opinion is representative of no one else. (Don't get me wrong Heidi is adorable, but I think she's done with her run here).
It's time for other types of people to judge. TLo is a very serious contender, along with other industry types such as celebrity stylists, guest designers, previous PR designers, etc.) I'd love to see Nina and La Kors in more of a mentoring role as well. We would learn so much from that.
I think there is value in having permanent judges because it is they who see improvements and trends over time. However, guest judge Cavelli's opinion was priceless and not based upon anything previous. The show needs a good balance of both.
Exactly! Those judges form opinions early on, and it is very hard for them to change their minds.
I agree Posh is a terrible idea. Yicks!!!!
Who the heck will she pick???
Did anyone else notice that Ramis' mother looked a lot like Jillian?
Another Suzanne
TLo is a very serious contender, along with other industry types such
No disrespect, but I love TLo over here. Their base of support is here as they write witty, sarcastic commentary, unedited for this free for all. Were they to go on PR5, what you'd see were the edited versions of TLo. So being a greedy consumer of PRG, I'd have to put the kibosh on that plan! I'm ready for a change of guard. Shove Tim into Heidi's spot, Michael into Tim's. I think we need new sound bites, and though I really like her, maybe it's time for Heidi to go auf, maybe spin off a show on something else.
Hi, I've been a big fan of PROJECT RUNGAY since I knew this site 2 years ago.
I'm Korean (of course south Korea), you guys will be surprised at the fact that
Actually many Korean are crazy not only about project runway and but your fabulous site!
Project runway4 currently is broadcast by cable TV. Along with ANTM cycle 9.
BTW I'm big fan of sexy Romi!! love his look and garment I’d like wear for sure!.
Though he is gay i am attracted at him even more.
He won't date with other girl. So, need not be jealous of other gal.
i just wanted to let u guys know that there are somebody checking your site every day far far from america.
Anonymous said...
Hi, I've been a big fan of PROJECT RUNGAY since I knew this site 2 years ago.
I'm Korean (of course south Korea), you guys will be surprised at the fact that
Actually many Korean are crazy not only about project runway and but your fabulous site!
Project runway4 currently is broadcast by cable TV. Along with ANTM cycle 9.
BTW I'm big fan of sexy Romi!! love his look and garment I’d like wear for sure!.
Though he is gay i am attracted at him even more.
He won't date with other girl. So, need not be jealous of other gal.
i just wanted to let u guys know that there are somebody checking your site every day far far from america.
8:03 PM
Komawoyo, darling!
Thank you for your kind words!
XO
T&L
I just doing feel any energy in Rami's outfits except for the Hershey's challenge dress, denim challenge and that's about it. They just don't inspire me.
They're nice red carpet dresses (even the prom dress in that awful green), but fashion forward they are not! We saw some interesting different things in the mini-collection, but not enough for him to get the win.
Hey there Anonymous 8:03, from S. Korea, I like to add my hello to TLo's..
Very cool to have you with us. :)
Sally
As for Rami and his designs, my opinion is he should buy Kit Pistol a "Flowers by the Month" gift delivery for having put out a truly "chip" garment for the avant-g challenge. She saved his (taut) ass on that one.
The design aesthetic as a whole?
...well, presumably, at 43, a career professional with not loads of spare income, but enough to 'invest' in a few classic pieces each year...*I* would be his commercial customer. (guessing that's the market he wants to broaden. If it's high-market expansion, then I'm out of the game)
Yet, what I've seen here and on his website doesn't inspire me to 'take that deep breath' and swipe my debit card for a $500 jacket. (especially that leaden-mustard one from the Tim visit)
I wonder if Rami has a representative who is brave enough to read through all the Project Runway critiques, reviews and BLOGS(!)...then distill it into a realistic market plan?
Point is: I keep reading posts from women like myself, his market, and we're mostly 'not' feeling it...yet the younger (sophisticates) are saying "right on!"
I don't think his most expansive customer is who he thinks it is.
Actually Kristen,
I'd be very surprised is Rami didn't win the online 3 piece collection. It's the best by far.
I love Rami and his designs too!
Go Ramilicios!! xo
Rami's is the best. No contest.
As someone who is over 50, I appreciate having a talented designer thinking about what I can wear well.
Hello everyone! I've been a fan of project runway since it started a couple years back but i didn't know that there were blogs like this about it! I'm so thrilled to find people who share the same enthusiasm over project runway!
BTW, I like Rami's designs but I love Chris more. lol.
Ya know, I love me some Rami.
That being said, the prom dress is fug. It totally looks like she has a baby sling attached to her dress.
Rami you rock! I love you and your work!
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