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"I'm scared, y'know? It's like, am I going to be good enough for this competition? Am I going to make it? Am I going to have enough hats?
Y'know, because it's not just a GAME. *snf* It's my LIFE.
And my hats."
Oh Maria, you better toughen up quick.
Especially since now the judges have it out for you. They have a label for you now and it's gonna be tough for you to shake it. "He's safe," they'll say. "Sure, it's well executed, but where's the innovation?"
We thought the judges were a tiny bit hard on him, but they did what they always do: pick someone to receive their criticisms while giving others a free ride for the same thing. This dress was pretty and well-made.
We love the lines and the use of the fabric but we kinda hate the lace, which takes it just a hair too close to actual lingerie.
Did it deserve the judges' scorn? Maybe, but then why weren't the other "well made but JUST pretty" dresses getting the same treatment? We think the producers were all "We got a cryer here! Rake him over the coals and keep those cameras rolling! Send a PA over to his room and hide all his hats!"
The thing with Victorya is, regardless of her talent or whatever she puts down the runway, we can't help saying her name over and over in our heads, like "VictorYA...VictorYA." Never was a "Y" so distracting.
Anyway, the dress. To steal from Heidi, it's growing on us.
At first we were distracted by the big dollar-store fabric flower and the preponderance of mismatched strappery, but overall, it has a simple looseness and elegance that we like.
It's a pretty dress, but unlike Ricky's that's not all that it is. It does have some sass and style to it and VictorYA did a good job defending it on the runway.
We still hate the flower but at least this one was a little more ... interpreted than Rami's rather literal one.
[Photos: Barbara Nitke/Bravotv.com - Screencaps: Project RunGay]
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i thought both of these dresses were middle of the road, boring but nice dresses... both stole spots from people who deserved to be in the top and bottom (rami did as well). I felt chris and Jack's dress were fantastic, and deserved to be in the top, while marion's dress was just a sea of black mess.
omg- in the next episode, rain goddess spits on the farbic! I just saw a tv ad and Sweet Pea looks absolutely horrified by Elisa! Cannot wait!
Oh, I so agree. Ricky did not deserve to be in the bottom three. I think his dress was one of the best executed on the runway.
Victorya knows what she is doing too. Hers was very well made and I think there are details that are hard to see.
I also think that the fabric in the tents must have been very short yardages (remnants). It looks to me like Rami was the only one that had an excessive about of fabric to work with. The others had lots of nice (but) short pieces and it effected their designs. At least that is what it looks like to me.
I agree with .word - Jack and Chris both got short changed. I loved Jack's fresh look. I do kinda feel bad for Ricky and his crying ...don't cry little train conductor.
Was I the only one who immediately thought of Shear Genius's Evangelin when Ricky started crying about 4 minutes after the opening credits rolled? If Riquetta keeps on with the boo-hooing, Nina will rip his throat out with her teeth.
"Did it deserve the judges' scorn? Maybe, but then why weren't the other "well made but JUST pretty" dresses getting the same treatment?"
THAT is exactly what has always annoyed about the judging. (That and the continual abuse of the word 'innovative'.) It is, often, utterly capricious and illogical. It is really nothing more than the judges visceral reactions, which they then just try to justify (with varying levels of success).
Ricky's dress didn't deserve the judges ire. Victorya's was OK too, but was seriously marred by that gold bow. If the giftwrapping department at Macy's ever did that to one of my packages, I'd ask for a refund.
But you gotta love Ricky. Anyone who wears a Choo-Choo Charlie hat on the runway is OK in my book.
--Gotham Tomato
I think the thing I didn't like about Ricky's dress was that it was yet another babydoll. I'm really tired of that look. For Victorya's dress, I thought it was cute, but nothing really boat-rocking.
I know the first few challenges tend to be pretty boring, so I"ll try to hold off judgement until they get a little more into it.
I'm equally distracted by Ricky's name. For my generation there is only one gay Ricky, and he is preserved forever in the My So-Called Life DVD boxed set.
I thought Victorya's dress was very sophisticated and avant-garde. Ricky's was just fancy lingerie.
OHMYGOD what's with all the crying? I was like oh here we go again...another Andrae on the show. Is that a California thing?
I did not like Victorya's dress, I thought the silver flower looked like something from a gift wrapping desk at the mall. And there have been many times that the judges have blasted people for creating outfits that weren't practical, wouldn't work in the real world, but they applauded her for a dress that someone couldn't raise their arms in? Umm, no.
I agree with .word on Chris and Jack. I thought those two dresses were far more outstanding and innovative than VictorYA's. I also agree on Marion. And, to steal a line from the FABULOUS Ms. Bennett, I thought Kit's dress, while "innovative" and having a point of view, was just a whole lotta ugly.
VictorYA's dress made the top 3 for one reason -- because she told Michael Kors that women would make sacrifices for fashion. He ate that shit up with a spoon. "Oh, yes, I know women who would SET FIRE to themselves for the right pair of shoes!"
It just goes to prove that male fashion designers really, really hate the women who buy their garments. Or that Michael Kors (who has never appeared in anything but black-on-black with a jacket) doesn't understand that fashion doesn't have to be uncomfortable to be fashionable.
I thought Ricky's dress was just so beautifully sewed. The way the silver stripes perfectly matched over her breasts and on the rest of the dress was, I thought, some great technical skill there.
I'd have put him and Evangelin both in the top three, with Jack or Chris.
Anne
" Patrick said...
...He ate that shit up with a spoon. "Oh, yes, I know women who would SET FIRE to themselves for the right pair of shoes!"
That really annoyed me. Any woman would put that dress on, try to lift her arms and say "I don't think so" NEXT!
Ok, here's the thing. Where the hell did the gold flower come from? Where the hell did the non-existent zipper that was supposed to be in Simone's dress come from??? That stuff wasn't in the tents.
The flower could have very easily come from the BlueFly wall, but the notions----nope.
I liked Ricky's dress. It fit, for one.
yes, the straps across the tops of the arms on VictorYA's dress really, really bugged me. Really.
The more reruns of the show that I catch, the more I think Chris's dress was the best.
And I'm starting to wonder about Marion. Is the shy, downcast-eyes, frightened-by-his-own-shadow persona garbed in Dickensian orphan-wear for real? Grown men who are successful business owners just don't act like that.
I hated Victorya's dress. It made the model look like she had no breasts and fat at the same time. That big flower was ticky tacky and detracted from what the dress really looked like, which I guess was the point.
It looked like a child took a black trash bag, added a sparkly bow to it and tied it on with string.
I hated the strings and the bow. It cheapened the dress.
The falling bra strap thing really bugged. Victorya seems like a stuckup be-otch to me.
Ricky is great tv. And he can really sew. I liked his dress.
flower? that was a freakin' flower??
looks like one of those ugly premade bows for a christmas gift.
and ricky! how many hats does the boy have? and isn't that a little '60s go-go-girlish?
puts me in mind of petula clark or lulu or similar.
Ha! I made a point about Victorya's spelling being distracting, too!
Anyhow... I liked Ricky's dress. It is a bit simple, yes, but it's done in a really nice fabric. I didn't like VictorYA's; it was actually my least favorite. I wanted to stompinate the big homecraft flower. (junior_goddess, the flower is fashioned from additional fabric, one presumes.)
I actually liked Victorya's dress but I loved Jacks and I am assuming in his dress one could raise their arms.
Gothamtomato said:
THAT is exactly what has always annoyed about the judging. (That and the continual abuse of the word 'innovative'.) It is, often, utterly capricious and illogical. It is really nothing more than the judges visceral reactions, which they then just try to justify (with varying levels of success).
WORD! I didn't understand the love for Victorya's dress-it reminded of one of Vera Wang's depressing collection of sad sacks earlier this year.
And, why was Rami's flower MOB while Victorya's was chic/innovative? I gotta tell you, I've seen better bows made in a Michael's craft store(and that ain't sayin' much)
The metallic flower is a little Carrie on Sex and the City season 3. It's been done a million times.
bitchybitchybitchy said..
And, why was Rami's flower MOB while Victorya's was chic/innovative?
Bingo!
Ricky: Boring.
Victorya: Vera Wang.
Not impressed with these two.
I actually liked both dresses. It did seem that ricky's was just a baby doll dress, but it was a nice dress. Perhaps he was singled out because his was the most blatantly dull in design (but well executed nonetheless).
People have to remember that judging is selective and all they have to go by is what they see down the runway. They can't go online and look at closeup shots of the garments. And seeing it live must give a different look to it than watching it on the television.
I didn't get much of an impression of victorya's dress, but perhaps it's easier to see the details of the dress on the runway.
Did nina say victorya reminded her of vera wang just because she's asian or is her style really that similar to Wang's?
"Anonymous said...
Did nina say victorya reminded her of vera wang just because she's asian or is her style really that similar to Wang's?"
Her style is similar to Vera Wang's, I think.
Poor Little Ricky. I liked the quality of the construction of the dress, but I am really sick of the whole baby doll thing. It didn't help that Wendy walked like she had tree trunks for legs. I don't anticipate her lasting very long this season.
How did Marion get through? It's...awful. Moving on the runway it was just ugly, but to look at the still on the Bravo site? Yipes. Black denim? With no hem? And the lace is crooked and just...I mean, they WERE allowed to use the sewing machines, right? They didn't just have to staple it together or tie it up with bias tape. Really, one of the worst ever.
Love Ricky. Loved his dress. Love that he says he has "wonderful, pretty things" in his head. Hang in there Little Ricky!
-Vindaloo
me no likey. neither one.
I'm not a fan of baby doll dresses, but Ricky's is a pretty cute one--he did a great job with the fabric, so I would not have put him in the bottom 3. I hope he sticks around for more tears and hat-counting.
And I also would not have put Victorya in the top 3. It's really hard to see the appeal there--it looks pretty boring to me, and binding the arms with those straps is just wrong.
I too agree that Chris and Jack are more deserving of the top 3 spot.
The length on these two dresses made a difference.
Because Ricky's was so short it emphasized the lingerie sweetness vibe (added to his model's awful walk) the dress came off as light-weight. If the judges' critiques didn't kill him, it'll make him stronger! I hope.
Victorya's length was just perfect for a snazzy little cocktail number. I liked this dress. Big difference between her kicky little flower and that ugly boil on Rami's.
-- desertwind
Meh, and meh. Pretty babydoll irrationally critiqued. shapeless black shift dress with weird straps and bad flower irrationally praised. V'ya is so over-working the Vera Wang thang. I know that the judging is heavily edited, but why criticize Rami for having a bigass flower but not V'ya? Or at least explain why, if you think there is a difference, what that difference is? That would help some of us who labor in the fields of the unknowing.
oh dear god, Little Ricky is a goner. I actually thought his dress was cute, but why black and metallic? pfeh.
Seriously, with all that colorful fabric in the tents I was disappointed in seeing Black Dresses.
I loved Ricky's. I'd buy that dress in a second.
"bitchybitchybitchy said...
And, why was Rami's flower MOB while Victorya's was chic/innovative? I gotta tell you, I've seen better bows made in a Michael's craft store(and that ain't sayin' much)"
AMEN, sister! The judges are never consistent.
Lingerie at the Fashion Show, lingerie now, I mean, enough with the lingerie/baby doll look. Show us something different, Ricky!
Angela was scolded for doing her freaking fleurchons when others are praised for doing the same thing. Go figure.
Right on, Boys.
" Anonymous said...
Angela was scolded for doing her freaking fleurchons when others are praised for doing the same thing. Go figure."
I disagree. Everything has been done already in fashion. It's how you interpret it that matters.
I feel like I've seen Heidi wear something similar to V'ya's dress on past seasons- when she was pregnant. Anyone else? Is it just me?
I was totally doing the same thing: "VictorYeah!" LOL!
I completely agree about Ricky: there were plenty of more boring dresses than that one."
I thought Ricky's dress was cute, minus the lace on the bodice. Victorya's dress needed to lose the falling down bra straps...
Tami S.
Martinique said ...
"Everything has been done already in fashion. It's how you interpret it that matters." I disagree. Beefsteak Pantaloons, bumble-bee codpieces, human-cadaver corsettes. The mind wobbles.
Ricky's dress was cute, unlike his hats.
Victorya's dress really was a black sack topped with last year's Christmas bow and a pair of droopy bra straps. Why the judges passed over Chris's gorgeous flowy satin for that sad sack of a dress is a complete mystery.
--rain brain (aka rayn brayn)
I'm thinking of starting a new movement to get rid of fake cloth flowers everywhere. In addition, no one's really mentioned Victorya's design flaw: you know, where the perpetrator can't hold her hands high up in the air when police yell "freeze" because useless black straps are restraining her frickin' arms.
Sorry, I'll never be that much a slave to fashion.
As for Ricky's dress? The fabric might have been a cut above Sears Roebuck and Co., but that style is sooo overdone. It might be cute for a high school prom, but it's nothing extraordinary.
I have to say, I loved Ricky's dress (including the lace), but as soon as I saw it coming down the runway I knew the judges were going to let him have it. I just didn't know they were going to let him have THAT MUCH of it. You might be right -- they are hoping for another Andrae-esque runway weep-fest. Poor Ricky. I wish he'd made a little jacket or something for it -- so it wasn't so obviously lingerie-like. That might have saved him some grief.
Victorya -- yeah, what *is* up with her name? Did she steal Michael's "y"? Sweetie, Mychael apparently wants to use it again, so please give it back. Victoria.
The dress? It was nice enough. I really have very little else to say about it.
I don't think Ricky will last long.
Haha! I too can't get over the 'Y' in Victorya too...
Don't like baby dolls at all, but Ricky's was at least a sophisticated take on it. However, somewhere else on the cable dial, a telenovella is missing its plucky, doe-eyed heroine from the wrong side of the tracks trying to make it in the big ciudad. I have the strong urge to send him some linen hankies and a fainting couch.
it could just be the latent asian in me rearing up to support a fellow asian, but I really liked Victorya's dress--not so much the gigantic silver flower, but I thought the shape was cute, and it moved well on the runway.
jeez guys...what did you like? Anything.
Being bitchy is one thing but hating everything is getting kinda old.
I thought Chris's dress was lovely and I would LOVE to wear it to a holiday ball I am attending this year.
The flower looks like painted newspaper; like one of those elementary school projects.
Dude. I do not dig VycKtorYa. But to be fair, I'll wait and see. Her dress was meh.
Ricky's dress at first glance was not impressive, but looking at the up-close pics, I loved the way he used the fabric. Absolutely NOT worthy of Bottom 3. Wth?
Color me slow! I was reading this and wondering who this Maria was! Hee-hee, as always you PR gays are too fast for me. So happy to here dishing along with everyone. :D
Sorry guys, but I loved Sweet Pea's dress. I think it is well fitted, flows and hangs perfectly and the straps really work. The color combos really work too. After reviewing all of the designs, I actually it was the best of the week.
Putting these together is great since they are variations on the theme of short, baby doll type dresses. V's a bit of 1920s, looser, and R's really a true babydoll, albeit with a chic fabric.
The big difference- R's use of the pattern and detailing. Really pretty, flattering and wearable. I'd also say very well sewed.
V's- not so much. The model looked kinda blob (thin blob, but shapeless) and of course, with the little arm ribbons, it is completely unfunctional. A sacrifice for fashion, I think, maybe means skipping the dessert plate 'cause you don't to gain weight or you're wearing tight pants. Being unable to move your upper body- that's just ridiculous.
Funny about Victorya's name. I've been pronouncing it Victory-a. Rhymes with diarrhea.
I hated the dollar-store flower dress and thought Ricky was unfairly singled out.
Though it was pretty obvious Simone was a goner: bland dress AND poorly made? That's the kiss of death on PR Runway.
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