Let's throw a bomb, shall we?Season 4 looks to be the MOST drama-filled season of Project Runway yet, and already we're hearing grumblings from the fans. When so many of them say that they "don't watch the show for the drama," we tend to think they're kidding
themselves. We DEFINITELY watch the show for the drama.
Oh, we watch it for the clothes and for the models and to watch talented people struggle to make something beautiful and/or
powerful. We watch it for Tim and Heidi and Nina and Michael. We watch it for montages in Mood and artificial deadlines and skirts made out of ferns and over-the-top personalities. But what keeps us coming back week after week (and what keeps the majority of the public coming back) are those delicious moments of drama. The plotting, the meltdowns, the personality clashes and power struggles, the
backstabbing and bitchslaps.We're not going out on a limb here by saying that we love to talk about fashion. But if Project Runway was JUST about fashion design, it really wouldn't be all that fun to watch. There's only so many ways to say "I hate that dress" before it gets old. But does
"Man, that Wendy is such a BITCH!" ever get old, darlings? Really?Sure, we hate it when the producers go out of their way to manipulate things too much (e.g., bringing the mothers in) or when posers figure out that being a total jerk to the other designers will ensure more air time (e.g., Jeffrey, Santino) but we've been hearing through the grapevine for some time now that this latest crew is nothing but a bunch of drama queens and fame whores and honeys, we don't know about you, but
we are DYING for the season to start so we can sink our claws in.Sure, if the show was NOTHING BUT drama, we'd have no interest because it wouldn't be any better than 95% of the reality shows out there, but it's that combination of talent, fabulosity
and unbridled bitchery that makes it so damn appealing.Admit it, you love it too.
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Oh, of course it's the drama, and anyone who says it's not is kidding themselves.
I think Season 3's edit was so rushed (with OFW show in Sept) that the drama (totally natural product of a bunch of artistes held hostage!) felt manufactured and THAT is what got on the nerves.
-- desertwind
Totally with you once again, TLo: without the bitches, it wouldn't be about fashion, anyway, would it?
Me likee the clothes and God knows it's a reality show where people are actually required to produce something, which is something. As we see with Top Chef, however, the mere fact that they are required to produce something doesn't guarantee good use of my DVR.
And here, without the vicious panel of Lady Tangerine, the Queen of Seventeen and Madame Seal, and the backstage (and sometimes onstage) front- and backstabbing of the grasping, clawing contestants, it would be nearly unwatchable.
I hope this lives up to the hype and pays off for the unforgiveable delay!!
my hand is up & i will admit it! :)
cant wait for the show to start & most importantly you boys to tell it like it is!
Unforgivable? It's going to air earlier than the first two seasons did. The fact that they crammed two seasons into one year was asking a lot.
All the same, hoping there's still a bit of balance between the work and the drama. And hopefully if Tim has to get into it with designers this year like he almost had to with Angela and Vincent last season that they keep the cameras rolling and actually use the footage.
You are so right. Without drama, it might as well be a reality show involving a one camera shoot of Michael Kors' typical day. "The Orange Duchess Goes to Work." That might be amusing for, oh, 10 minutes. But once his spray-on tan is applied, then what would we do?
Let's go kids. Sharpen your metaphors, fresh meat's a 'comin.
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Drama is nice, but I like Laura type drama better than Jeffrey type drama. To be honest, when its all cat fights and that crap, I lose interest. When the drama is rooted in fashion and fun, its great. When it gets mean and petty, I get bored. There's enough of that it regular life.
The lack of good drama is what has deflated so many other promising shows. Ahem (Top Chef 3)
Of course when the producers stick their oar in we get pissed. Just put a bunch of nuts together, pit them against one another and let the fur fly!
We PROMISE we won't get bored, so don't feel the need to manufacture drama. Just let the magic happen :)
I like drama in small doses, but what I really like is watching the creativity involved in making something out of something totally unexpected (corn husks, anyone?). Having said that, a slice of Kayne bitchiness always puts a smile on my face while Laura could meow her way through any challenge and still make beautiful clothing. Can't wait!
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Well, I make a distinction: There is drama & then there is downright Lord of the Flies nastiness. The former can be fun but the latter is definately not. Not fun & not interesting.
When there are too many assholes, you cross the rubicon and the show becomes too stressful (& annoying) to watch. And that is what happened in S3. With Jeffrey leading the way, it was just unbridled, unrepentant nastiness from too many designers (Jeffrey, Vincent, Keith, etc).
If I wanted to watch ignorant assholes arguing, I'd watch Fox News.
The only likeable relationship was Laura & Michael (and briefly, Michael & Angela). In S1 & S2, even though there was bitchslapping, there was also a lot of commeraderie between the designers. And even though Santino was a dick, he was tolerable because he was at least (at times) funny. (And only because he was funny).
Assholes like Jeffrey, whose whole thing is playing mind games to throw others off their game, because he cannot compete simply on his own merit, ruin a show like this because they are just annoying.
And yeah, it IS a dog-eat-dog world out there, but when you are watching a competition, you want to feel that there is some fairness in it all & S3 was lacking that because of, again, largely, Jeffrey.
S1 & S2 were bitchy, but also uplifting. S3 was a drag across the finish line with a hateful 'winner' who was dispised by most of the audience.
So there is fun & funny to go with the bitchy, like S1 & S2, that'll be fine. But if S4 is like S3, nope. Me no likee.
--Gotham Tomato
I love you, TLo, but I really don't like the drama. And I'm not kidding myself. The episode with Angela's mom? I saw it once and turn the TV off when it comes on again during the marathons. I can't watch it. I hated the did he cheat part in last season's finale. I hated Wendy crying about who drew the mustache. I really am in it for the creativity and the fashion. I loved Uli because there wasn't any drama with her. And I love Laura but didn't love the few times she was involved in the drama. I'm with Gotham Tomato - the funny bitchy asides? Bring 'em on. But that's my limit.
So maybe I'm one of the few, but I really DON'T like the drama. I see enough of that in real life.
-- rain brain
Add me to the "I could live without the Drama" category. Watching someone try to make something creative out of recylced garbage is enough drama for me. Watching Keith on the reunion show was like watching a Ben Stiller movie - just uncomfortable. I actually loved Top Chef Season 3 BECAUSE we didn't have to see talented people acting like third graders to get screen time. Kayne and Robert bitching - fun. Jeffrey and Angela? Thanks, I'll pass.
The previews of Season 4 are making me wonder how much I'll really want to watch. I may just check out the recaps here, instead.
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I also thought Top Chef 3 was the best one yet. I like seeing talented people do what they do best. Except when what they do best is act like a complete douche.
Gotta go. The soap called, it wants its box back.
-- rain brain
I watch it for the dramedy-- Andrae and Santino, Wendy Pepper's craziness, Austin Scarlett's foppishness, Tim's barely controlled horror.
"If I wanted to watch ignorant assholes arguing, I'd watch Fox News."
HA!!!
I love watching the creative process and how the garments are designed and constructed, and would love to see more of that aspect of the show. That said, if there were no drama, the show would be better suited to HGTV or The Learning Channel. Gotta have some drama - otherwise how do we know they are suffering for their art?!
Love the screen captures. Perfect!
great screen caps! love that bitchiness.
GothamTomato said...
Well, I make a distinction: There is drama & then there is downright Lord of the Flies nastiness. The former can be fun but the latter is definately not. Not fun & not interesting.
I agree! I love some bitchiness and good fun, a la Kayne and Robert, but Jeffrey's style of personal ugliness just did not appeal, especially since he should have been aufed early on SEVERAL times and was kept for the drama. I think the unfairness is one of the things that irks me. They can edit it, but don't control the judging to keep "characters" on.
Ohhh! Gotham Tomato, you totally stole my Lord of the Flies comment! Damn you! But I still want to point out that where Top Chef 2 veered deeply into Lord of the Flies territory, so far -- SO FAR -- Project Runway has not. Let us hope it remains so (although frankly, I just don't see Tim tolerating what TC2 devolved into and he would be in a position to see it happening, unlike the TC judges -- or so they say). Thanks for the visual road map through delicious drama, Boys!
I'm with Gotham and the muted drama crowd. I also thought Top Chef 3 was the best season yet. It wasn't stressful to watch which was really nice.
Having said that, I'd like to add that when a drama queen emerges, I love to go through the unfolding process of discovering who they really are over time. For example, I couldn't take a minute of Santino until the last episodes of S2 where we learned that he actually was super vulnerable, a guy with a tender heart (sort of) and therefore had certain reasons for behaving the way had in previous episodes.
As for the contestants who are straight-out media whores, I think that is poisonous to the viewer's experience ruins the complexity of the relationships, both between the designers and with us, the viewers.
Okay, I overthought that way too much, but I've always been a process girl too.
I'm with Gotham, girl said it just right.
I'm enjoying the vanilla Up-With-People vibe of PR Canada. More time for actual sewing.
I enjoy the harmless snark, like Laura's or Kaynebow's or Robert's or Jay's or even some of Santino's or Jeffrey's comments. What I really hate are the scheming jerks like Wendy, Karasaun's shoe debacle, Jeffrey's cheating, Keith's cheating, Santino saying unnecessarily mean things behind people's backs in interview (like about Diana), etc.
I have to admit, while I think he's a total undeserving douchbag, I still laugh at "God got drunk today."
I love the drama! Where-the-hell is Morgan-and-my-swimsuit drama. Will-Zulema-and-Kara-be-able-to-finish-the-dress drama. Reason #1, at least for moi.
You guys keep bringing up bad drama. Fine, but let's not forget "the good drama" too. That's why I love the show so much; to be able to see all that drama behind the scenes and later the runway show knowing what they had to go through to send that dress down the runway.
The drama is part of the industry. I'm a model and I go through this every show, every fitting.
I LOVE Project Runway... I watch for the drama and the dresses and the eliminations.
I don't watch it to see hours of sewing, I watch it for the drama and humor. It's my drama fix I guess.
I think that half the reason why I watch this show each week is so I can read your recap. HILARIOUS.
" Isabella said...
You guys keep bringing up bad drama. Fine, but let's not forget "the good drama" too."
I meant some of the comments here, not you lovely boys : - )
I felt that season 3 had too much drama, too much negativity, not enough humor, fun, creativity, very little of what drew me in when the show first aired or during Season 2.
Love you guys, but I have to disagree. I wish they would focus on lots of actual sewing and getting to know the designers better.
Well said, Tom & Lorenzo! In complete agreement.
Drama? YES! Can I have a side of model drama too? Thank you.
I read somewhere that the producers could've presented a much worse version of Santino - They had enough footage for that. Quite frankly, I don't think it's just the producers manufacturing drama. These people happen to be assholes and they're going to behave like assholes in front of the camera.
Absolutely it's the drama. If I just wanted to watch sewing I'd go to my granny's quilting bee.
I liked Top Chef 3 because there were no major felonies committed.
Cheesy and it is, I'm enjoying watching the Next Iron Chef, because, while they are going out of their way to heighten the competition (chefs selecting ingredients for each other, etc.) the chefs merely laugh at each other in a "heh, hey, you got me" kind of way and then get down to business.
I believe more and more that on PR they cast the most emo people and then shake the jar with their interviewing techniques and/or comments to the cast when the cameras are not rolling. Most mature grownups do not behave the way people do on PR, even in a pressure-cooker situation, unless they are being manipulated.
I read somewhere that the producers of Mythbusters tried in the first season to make Adam and Jamie fight. They fought back against the producers. The show is more funny without Jamie shooting Adam with paintballs until he cries.
Although, that was kinda cool...;-)
I freely admit it, and the best part of it all will be your fabulously glamorous bitchy commentary. I am really going to miss Laura though.
Put me in the camp of people who like minimal full-on drama. The catty commentary, sure. The OMG-am-I-gonna-finish-this stuff? Absolutely. Morgan "not having time to change"? Sure, that was funny. Tim Gunn telling someone he's a little concerned about the taste level of something? Well, duh; Tim Gunn is a major reason I watch the show. But when it starts getting into serious reality-show territory, I start not liking it; there's a reason I'm watching PR and TC and not Survivor or ANTM.
Someone else mentioned the same example I use of too much drama for me to find it entertaning: the Ordinary Woman episode from S3. I will not watch that episode when it's on, even though I love me some marathon PR.
We'll see where they take it for this season. I'm really looking forward to the season but I'm a little wary they've gone full-on stupid-reality-show-tricks drama.
OK, now that I have read all of the comments, I couldn't agree more with littlekarnak.
Sewing - drama = boring. We don't all flock to T & L to find out who installs a zipper correctly. The bitchier and nastier, the better.
The fashion industry is a world filled with inflated egos. Why would be any different with PR?
ok so looking at those pictures made me realize how much I miss the show, the "execution music", the drama, the tears, Heidi's tacky wardrobe, and how much I miss Laura, Uli, Kara Saun and Uncle Nick.
Eh, I watch for the designers - NOT the famewhores. I loved Austin, Kara, Saun, Chloe, Daniel V, Emmett, Kara Janx, Mychael, Malan, Uli... notice a pattern here? They were real designers who are STILL working now. They were naturally quirky and charming and interesting to watch.
I cannot stand those low-life famewhores like Wendy Pepper, Santino, Vincent, Angela Keslar, etc. I hated these clowns and they almost ruined the show for me. They added ZERO entertainment value and forced me to turn the channel a few times.
"actually loved Top Chef Season 3 BECAUSE we didn't have to see talented people acting like third graders to get screen time."
Oh yes! I agree. I loathed Top Chef 2 and vowed never to watch again after witnessing the physical assault, gang attacks, and hazing rituals. It was sickening and disgusting.
Thankfully, the producers toned it down this season and Top 3 was a definite improvement.
Yes, yes I do.
Just let me climb up barefoot on my trusty Arabian stallion for a moment. I feel I can say absolutely and unequivocally that I do not enjoy the melodrama. I prefer to watch drama with overtly credited scriptwriters.
I love everything about the show.
That said, there are several episodes from Season 3 that I will never watch again. And I will be less likely to stick with Season 4 and beyond is another bully is allowed to skate through with inferior work for the sake of drama.
I never went back to Top Chef after the early episodes of Season 2.
Dahlings, I live for the Bitches, the Talent, the sheer magnificence of All The DRAMA.
Give me high fashion mud wrestling. I live for - no, I devote my life - to snark.
I watch the show because I like to see talent in action and I love clothes too of course. Having said that, without the suspense, tears and witty remarks and fun drama the show would be very boring.
I love the drama. What makes this such a great reality show -- and one of the few my husband watches with me -- is that the drama is generally backed up by talent and innovation, and that this is (more or less) a merit-based competition.
I don't mind the drama as long as its not fake. I hate when they edit it presuming that the viewers are stupid....like when you are just seeing someone's face and hearing someone else's voice....how do we really know what the person whose face they are showing is reacting to? I mean with the right facial expressions and the right phrases coming out of people's mouths you can create an entire situation that never happened.
I also cannot stand when they want us to believe that the judges have no idea about the backstage dramas that unfold yet on the runway they just HAPPEN to ask Wendy what kind of leader she thinks Austin is or when the bitches dye just HAPPENS to disappear.
And while we are on the subject I am still wanting to know what the hell happened with Keith Michael??
While I like the drama, I have to say that I like more of the "bradley can't finish his dress" drama over the Santino type drama.
As for Jeffrey and the mom type drama...dealing with clients is part of the business. Whether you agree or disagree with how he handled it..I think she should have just worn the dress...said she liked it like every other mother did...and left it at that.
Is it just me, or does anyone else hope that Bravo learned it lesson from PR3 and lets the cast get drunk together again? I will forever love the alcohol-fueled Season 1 - who can forget Austin Scarlett going through his nightly routine (complete with sleep-socks!) while the rest of the crew got drunk off their asses? I think a little drinking went a long way to cementing relationships.
Oh... and I love me some drama, as long as it doesn't extend beyond the immediate cast (e.g. Fleurechon's mom --- painful to watch, and I, too refuse to watch that epi when it reruns)
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As happens all too often, I simply must agree with you guys!
i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds something better to do when the mothers episode is on (ok, well i do watch it through the lunch at tavern on the green, THEN it's turned off).
Not kidding myself. At the end of season 3, I swore that I'd give them another season to turn themselves around and that's it. A little drama, yes--it's the human condition. But I just wanted to slap a few faces and tell them to grow the hell up. I probably *will* watch the whole season, but when the hysteria starts to fly, flip channels until sanity returns and/or Tim is on the screen. :-p
The drama is okay--though as someone said, the dramedy is better. I just hate it when the episode is editing so that you never see the creative process or problem solving and you only see the drama. At that point, who cares?
Has a little birdie told you this season will be especially juicy?
-- desertwind
Wow. It really is a debate, isn't it? I'd guess it's about 50-50 for drama/no drama.
Me, I prefer the no-drama. As someone else commented, I love the format for The Next Iron Chef--though the Chairman's videos can be stupid but Alton Brown is a great foil for big egos trying to cook the best.
I definitely watch PR because I love to watch the process of creativity--they could make a real-time online video of it all and I'd pay to watch (unlike Big Brother 3). The process of fashion is fascinating.
But then again, I *love* the show "How It's Made" on the Discovery channel, so I have no problem watching video of something being made (bicycle helmets! potato chips!) with the calm voiceover of a narrator. It's sooooo pared down, they avoid showing shots of people as much as possible. I always wonder if family members are watching it going, "Look, there's me working the foam press! See! Don't you recognize the pants you gave me for Christmas last year?"
I really don't enjoy the drama at all and the most "dramatic" PR episodes (aside from the fashion week shows) are the least favorite of mine.
I'm with Snaillady2...love the process and can do without the nasty drama (but, of course, love the humor).
There have been a couple of times in the last two seasons that I wondered if the time had come to turn channels.
Who knows...I'll just have to "watch what happens"....
I think gothamtomato put it really well! It is all about the balance - there is enough nastiness in the world...I don't need wholesale quantities of it piped into my living room under the guise of entertainment.
"Anonymous said...
i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds something better to do when the mothers episode is on (ok, well i do watch it through the lunch at tavern on the green, THEN it's turned off)."
Actually, making the eat at Tavern on the Green is the most abusive part of the episode.
--Gotham Tomato
"GothamTomato said:
If I wanted to watch ignorant assholes arguing, I'd watch Fox News."
All that being said, I'd pay money to see Tim Gunn come walking into the workroom, pull his leather gloves off, and slap someone across the face with them.
That's all.
--Gotham Tomato
One thing that I have adopted in order to avoid some of the drama:
I record the show on DVD. I find it increasingly hard to watch the show when it is first broadcast (late hour and then I get worked up), but I love taping the show and then watching it later, fast forwarding through the commercials and icky parts, and being able to rewind (especially the Mood Montages) at will.
Of course, I'm a total spoiler whore so I don't care if I hear who was auf'd before I watch the episode. That may make recording less appealing for people.
"snaillady2 said...
One thing that I have adopted in order to avoid some of the drama:
I record the show on DVD. "
How do you do that snaillady2? Tivo?
Count another vote for drama generated by the challenges and not the canned drama stemming from carnival freaks without an internal edit button.
Speaking of which tho Jeffrey certainly was a grade A *sswipe, he wouldn't have happened without producers and editors being lazy and resorting to the same nonsense from S2.
I'm another one who isn't watching for the drama. If I want to watch bitchy people being nasty to each other, I'll hang out with my teenagers.
The vicious "drama" is the sole reason I stopped watching Top Chef.
I was so appalled and disgusted by the "drama" of Top Chef 2, I never went back. I've heard Top Chef 3 is better but it's too late... I lost all interest in that show. Season 2 ruined it for me.
I haven't made up my mind yet about Project Runway Season 4. If it's true that they have amped up the "drama: and it's flooded with worthless bottom-feeding famewhores like Wendy Pepper and Santino Rice, I don't think I'll bother watching.
If I wanted "drama", I'll tune into American Next Top Model or Big Brother.
While I am glad that I'm not the only one who prefers the creative process over the edited drama, I think Season 4 will have it's far share of drama.
While the first two seasons were hits with people interested in fashion, Season 3 was the biggest hit in the ratings. The producers are gonna leave well enough alone probably. Hopefully they will pare it down. We'll have to watch and see cuz frankly in the end it doesn't really matter til it walks down the runway.
Guilty as charged! I want me some more of that "I don't care if you gotta cry and cut, but cry and cut. Don't stop and cry - cry and WORK!"
The icky parts? what?
Like most people here, I love the drama inherent in the challenges and in people working together in a room under the stress of those challenges, and I agree it'd be damn boring without it. But when it it turns into downright meanness (like Top Chef 3), or, as you say, when the posers behave badly to get more air time, that's when I have issues. So let's hope the high drama promised for Season 4 is a function of lots of big personalities rather than a entire cast full of posers.
Add me to the people who would prefer drama of the not-so-nasty sort. I also loved Top Chef 3 and found it enjoyable and refreshing to watch them compete without any ridiculous and childish conflicts.
As a few other people have mentioned, humorous quips from people like Kayne and Laura are great, but the nastiness of the Angela/Jeffrey conflict was just too uncomfortable to watch. Even on first viewing of the designing for real women episode, I found myself muting the show so that I wouldn't have to hear what was being said. I felt the producers were being irresponsibly cruel to allow that conflict to take place.
I watch it for the sewing!
Well, I sorta watch it for the drama too...
"How do you do that snaillady2? Tivo?"
They sell DVD recorders that work just like VCRs. I bought one in Target the other day for $99
Thanks, suzanne: exactly what I was going to say.
I have a DVD-recorder. Works like the old VCRs except records to DVDs (or DVD-RAMs if you got 'em).
I'm on my second (I record a lot and watch later), and highly recommend paying the extra for a good name brand, my first one (by Lite-On, I believe), died before the warranty ran out and it was a nightmare. Of course, it was worth it to buy the cheap one to determine whether I'd use it enough.
My current Panasonic is great (bought for less than $200). It accepts DVD-RW so I can keep deleting and re-recording for shows I don't want to archive, or permanently save shows that I like (like PR, though I haven't re-watched S3 at all).
Cheaper than TiVo in the long run, though it cannot record two shows simultaneously (I don't know if TiVo can do that).
" snaillady2 said...
Thanks, suzanne: exactly what I was going to say.
I have a DVD-recorder. Works like the old VCRs except records to DVDs (or DVD-RAMs if you got 'em)..."
Thank you : - ))
Oh YES, I am not one of those holier-than-thou purists who gets their feathers ruffled by the slightest hint of conflict. As long as the producers are not blatantly manipulating situations to create tension (i.e. the return of Crazy V and Angela on S3, Santino's non-aufing for his chicken suit) I love the drama. If this little group of S4 bitches can give me my fix without trying too hard to be outrageous, I will be a happy viewer.
How could anyone who reads your blog NOT admit it? Of course I love the bitchery! It's FABULOUS, darlings.
I watch PR primarily the process of getting a challenge, drawing out an idea, OMG fabric shopping, putting it together, and seeing a final product. The creative parts.
The natural drama of the show is good for me and keeps it from being boring. The short timeframes and people's creative approaches to solving last-minute problems. The banter that goes on while they work is great.
My main problem with S3 was I couldn't stand some of the main people. Unlike most, I actually liked Jeffrey. I didn't like Angela, and Vincent made me want to change the channel. It's the meanness and conniving I don't like.
I'm worried S4 will be drama for drama's sake - not drama as the natural result of a high-pressure situation with creative and emotional people. That will turn me way off.
I watch for the drama, the beautiful clothes and the design process.
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GothamTomato said...
Well, I make a distinction: There is drama & then there is downright Lord of the Flies nastiness. The former can be fun but the latter is definately not. Not fun & not interesting.
I agree! I love some bitchiness and good fun, a la Kayne and Robert, but Jeffrey's style of personal ugliness just did not appeal, especially since he should have been aufed early on SEVERAL times and was kept for the drama. I think the unfairness is one of the things that irks me. They can edit it, but don't control the judging to keep "characters" on.
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ITA - when the drama comes from the competition, it's fine-we do love a little drama with our fashion. It's the nastiness that erupted in PR3 that I don't want.
And please, Bravo, never again do I want to see any designer's mother humiliated on TV. that was just cruel
I enjoyed Season 2 the most precisely because we didn't have the machinations of Wendy effing Pepper, or the sheer awfulness of Jeffrey, or the insanity of Vincent forced down our throats. In season 2 there was a tremendous sense of cameraderie, of talented people helping one another out, and even Santino was part of that. The fact that they felt able to talk to one another about difficult subjects like coming out was so wonderful, and so much more interesting as a side note to the fashion than Jeffrey being a c*nt to someone's mother. I hope PR can maintain its true spirit - talented people working to win those dreams they otherwise might not reach, as opposed to famewhores who only want to be rent-a-gobs afterwards.
Oh dear. I do love that picture with Nick's retarded castaway model Rachel - the one with the elongated marshmallow body. :)
i dunno anymore. It seems they have to suck out any trace of friendliness amongst the designers. I'm really looking forward to season 4, but not the contestants (except Steve. LOVE Steve) The thing is, I always watched the show for the Jay's, the Andrae's, the Austin, the Nick's, the Michael's and Robert's and Laura's. People who really try to show shit to the fan I just basically rolled my eyes whenever they came on the screen. Except Wendy. As much of a witch she was, she at least had a motive on the show. Santino was only half of her burning, take anyone down determination, the other half: pure egotisitical hot-headedness. Now Jeffrey basically just took the latter and made it 95% of his character (the other 5% was the wife and kid bit, whom he just dumped after the show ended anyway). Really, I'm not looking for all the cast to be like them. Ugh my head aches just from thinking about it...
Wow. How wrong were you guys? This season has no drama whatsoever. maybe they should bring in wendy as a guest judge.
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