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Quickie recap: The designers have to design a party dress for Nicky Hilton, who will pick the winner after viewing them at probably the tamest party she ever attended. You can read Tim's take on this episode here and listen to his podcast here.
This is definitely a case of recap/rethink. We always ...if not exactly liked the dress, could see why it won and had no problem with the win. Once we got the screencaps though, we have to say this ain't all that hot a frock.
The color's pretty and the braiding was kind of nice, but that's about it in the plus column.
Yow. That's a lotta junk going on there and most of it doesn't look particularly well executed. He never knows when to stop throwing stuff at the dress form. And once again, there's only the barest hint of a female form under 20 pounds of fabric.
We wouldn't mind the skirt so much since it flowed and moved so beautifully, but it was way too full and like everything Santino's made so far, makes a 98-pound model look like red beans and rice didn't miss her.
It seems to us that he won this for the same reason he's still in the competition: jaded seen-it-alls atwitter over someone acting "outrageous." Granted, Nicky was probably trying to hit him up for some coke, but she was all over him like white on rice. Credit where credit's due, part of the challenge was to sell yourself and no one came close to Santino on that score. He worked it to his advantage but in our opinion, the dress wasn't all that much to write home about.
[Screencaps: projectrungay.blogspot.com]
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Santino is really as "one note" as Chloe or your fav, Laura. All his dresses look the same to me. "Umpire" waist, lots of embellishment. Bor. Ing. But flattering to people with no boobs and a big ass.
Nick was robbed. But he just wasn't whorish enough, apparently. I'd buy your chicle, Nick!
Messy again. Looks like she slept in it after a long night of partying.
It worked to Santino's advantage that they got to "sell" it to the client, he is really good at scamming. I don't think she would ever have picked a female designers dress.
Holy god, that hem is FRAYED. What happened to your superior construction skills, Santino?
That's realy ridiculous. I've only been sewing for a few months and have never made a hem that bad.
I jumped the gun on the "publish" button.
I don't, don't, don't understand how Santino can win with that hem and Kathrine get's aufed for a less messier one a season later. What the crap.
That Messy Hem is supposed to be that way....an example of the "deconstructed look", a trend that is popular right now. This is a trend that I don't feel will be around for long because it is unprofessional, unfinished, sloppy looking, quick to sew (or not) and LOOKS IT.
Comparing the braiding to the work done by Uli on the next season, you can see how clunky and out of proportion with the whole line of the dress it seems. And we thought Nicky was the smart one. Ha.
patsijean said " That Messy Hem is supposed to be that way....an example of the "deconstructed look".."
Yeah, I know it was with intention, but the fraying should have been the same all the way around , there should not be runners in the chiffon further up in the skirt , the skirt is all wrinkled, ,the gathering on the bodice is crooked the braid looks like it has fray coming off of it too.
watching the epi again, I always snort in derision when Daniel V reads from Nicky's dossier: "I have exquisite taste" and then she picks this unflattering mess. Vomitting in her mouth must taste exquisite to her.
Bernd
Wow!....and to think that I liked this dress on the runway. I'm no longer impressed!
And what is that shiny thing? a bird brooch?
The bodice on this reminds me of Michael Knight's couture gown in S3. Y'know, the one he had the good sense to be embarassed about?
Maybe it was all those Tim Gunn impersonations or the fact he pretended to not take it seriously, but I remember thinking he had 'some' talent. I am so unimpressed! Season 2 is turning into my least favorite... I am shocked.
Are you really referencing Sir Mix-a-lot in this post?!? You guys never cease to amaze me.
Although it looked pretty enough on the runway, even then the braided shoulder strap on the left (right on screencap) looked too heavy. In close-up, you really do see what a mess the bust area and hems are. Why didn't we hear Nina asking him if the hem looked that way on purpose?
In the dossier they gave the designers, they showed Nicky in two dresses, both of which looked pretty unattractive to me. So I have a difficult time crediting her with a lot of taste in the first place.
When Heidi expressed surprise that Nicky had worn something similar to Marla's dress, I thought the surprise was less that Marla had done a copy, and more of a "You really wore somethig like that?" response. But Heidi's been known to dress pretty questionably herself, so who knows what she meant?
Granted, it was smart of Santino to use a color to match the client's eyes. But I think she got sucked in by the stilettos--the illusion that, if he's this outrageous, he must be really talented. Her predictions of how well he'd do in the fashion business sure haven't panned out so far.
Ever hear of an iron Santino? Perhaps he could have cut the fabric with shears, instead of tearing it apart with his fangs; it would have prevented all that fraying at the "hem". Sloppy, shoddy work is just that. Sorry, it's not "art".
Tami Simkins
Thank you for the "jaded seen-it-alls" comment. This is at the bottom of ALL the bad judging on ALL the Bravo shows. Just because something is "new" or "hasn't been done before" does not mean that it is good or should be done.
Have they ever thought that someone else at some other time thought of the same thing and REJECTED it as a bad idea???
That hem is an ugly mess. WTF? That's just sloppy work.
Is that fleurchon I spot in the center? Yes, it is. Santino's work reminds me so much of Angela Keslar's.
As usual, the construction is lousy. The fit is poor and unflattering. Too much whickety whack thrown everywhere.
Santino is one-note and over-rated.
Uli can make use of braiding and flowing fabrics and make a woman look and feel good in her clothes. I think this is what Santino was striving for but never quite accomplished.
Well, consider the source: Nicky Hilton. Like her sister, her taste is up her ass (and apparently it's very crowded in there).
I always thought that Nick should have won this challenge. But then, again, the source...Nick's dress was way too classy for a Hilton twit.
The world would be a better place if she and her horrific sister simply evaporated off the face of it.
--Gotham Tomato
Uhh, he won because Nicky Hilton is fug.
Is there a photo anywhere of Hilton wearing this dress?
- Barnaby
What I hated about this judging was the way Nicky seemed to think it was her duty to judge not just the dresses, but the very career choices of every single contestant. Like it was somehow up to her whether or not Santino or Marla or whoever should even be in fashion. She needs to get over herself. And she had at least 3 or 4 better choices than Santino's: Nick, Chloe, Dan V., Andrae, etc.
It's amazing how awful Santino's work is up close. The details are horrendous. What a mess. The sloppy frazzled hems are so wretched. The braiding is badly done. It looks like sailing rope. Look at Uli's superb work as an example of how to do it right. The big rosette in the middle of her stomach is laughable. And is that a blue bird on her sternum? It looks like a veritable nest up there.
I suspect Nicky Hilton was charmed by Santino's personality. The dress itself was terrible. No wonder she never wore it.
I love to blow these pics up and look at the designers' reactions. Chloe is ALWAYS looking at the judges and the others are usually doing a good job keeping their games faces on. But here Zulema looks like she's about to bust a gut! And check out Nick's face... priceless
Anon 1:13 said "Comparing the braiding to the work done by Uli on the next season, you can see how clunky and out of proportion with the whole line of the dress it seems. And we thought Nicky was the smart one. Ha."
I was also thinking about how much this reminds me of one of Uli's dresses--but Uli did it much, much better. Santino's just looks a mess up close.
Santino said he cared more about Nicky Hilton than the Barbie competition, because Nicky Hilton could buy dresses from him.
HA! yeah, right!
Nick should have won this challenge but Nicky Hilton was charmed by Santino's schmoozing.
"My standards are high, and my taste is exquisite."
Her taste is exquisite? Hahahahahaha.
No taste at all on that girl's wardrobe!
Nope. Didn't like it and yeah, it did give off bad Uli vibes.
Didn't Uli do one in that color, only it looked MUCH better?
Bitch with needles here. That dress is awful from a construction point. The bodice was trying to be Aphrodite et Eros while the skirt was trying to be Sid 'n Nancy, but on happy drugs. It wasn't coherent; it wasn't finished, and it wasn't good.
That said, any man who wears 5 inch patent leather (custom made) pumps to a party and puts the schmooze on Nicky "What's my name" Hilton, deserves an A for effort.
This is awful.
Why in God's name would anyone want to wear a dress that makes your boobs look like that post-mastectomy, pre-reconstructive-surgery, bad lumpy padding like my grandmother had (and was constantly adjusting)?
Adjectivally awful.
Santino is just a BS artist.
WTF is that wickety whack on the front???? Seriously. There's an odd blue bird with a line hanging down from it that leads to a big fleurchon. Yikes!!!
You need to mention the terrifyingly tall high heels he wore to "make an impression". Personally six foot tall Santino ranks on my nightmare list
I don't think this dress is THAT awful, but it's not very good. Nicky picked it because she had the hots for Santino, which is the closest to an esthetic idea a Hilton girl ever gets. You could see it in her eyes. It was also suited for her figure, which is a little thick and bottom-heavy. It's tragic what it does on this gorgeous model, though.
Santino continues to set new marks for assholery. It's perfect that he loves and respects Nicky Frigging Hilton.
That party was pathetic.
The top half looks so bulky and chunky. There's way too much going on. The braiding on top of braiding, over even more braiding. The blue bird. The ugly fleurchon. The sloppy shredding. The frayed hems everywhere. Yuck!
Poor Heeather. Such a gorgeous skinny girl. But Santino keeps making her look fat.
He's incapable of designing for the female form.
was this the party that Jay showed up to and dissed Santino (sorry don't have the CD set - I live for your play by plays.
I agree with you guys...once again. Shoot. Won't you ever say anything that I can argue with? Damn. All this agreeing is so tiring.
But seriously, I felt the same way you did when I saw the dress on the runway. I liked it: I thought it was flirty and fun and I loved the color. It wasn't my favorite -- Andrae's had that honor -- but I thought I understood why Nicky liked it. Close up, I still love the color, but that's about it. The details are so badly done, it's embarrassing. Does anyone have a picture of Nicky in that dress? I wonder if she had some major tweaking done, like Nancy O'Dell did with Wendy's dress. It's hard to imagine that even a Hilton would wear such a mess.
In the case of Miss Hilton, it's the classic story of too much money and too little sense.
I dont think Santino's work was good enough to win any of the challenges this season, and this one is no exception. I still dont get why he won the first one....she looked like a big fat green heffalump
Hey Roxy, the Uli dress you are thinking of was the one she did for the couture challenge. Uli's dress, however, was beautful and impeccably made.
I didn't like this too much when I first saw it, because it just isn't flattering to the figure. What woman wants to appear even smaller busted than she is? And all that fabric in the skirt is NOT slimming. Of couse, I just don't "get" deconstruction, and this really wasn't deconstructed well as has already been pointed out. Santino and his friend and "pupil" Jeffrey really work that egotistical bad boy thing. Why on earth do the judges seem to respect that nonsense? Blech!
Hilton Hails the Whickety-Whack!
I'm sick of Santino's whickety-whack trim thingys. His design was too bulky and busy with his signature "overdetailing". He relies way too much on embellishments, ie., braids, fleurchons, hanging threads, now even birds? WTF???? There's always so much superfluous garbage tacked on. Santino just added two inches to his model's waist.
His silhouettes are exactly the same for every single dress he makes: short-waisted, tiny boobage area, puffy fluffy ruffles accentuating a big butt. The proportions are so unflattering to a woman's body.
Deja vu? This dress was almost the exact same dress as the one Santino made in muslin for the first competition. He has no range whatsoever. Just a retread of the same tired old whackity-wack he always churns out. Every week he spits out some tacky-looking super-embelished baby-doll dress.
I just don't understand. Why is he still here? Must be the Wendy Pepper Effect.
I hated Santino's dress and the more I see of his "work" the more I think he's a one-trick pony. His overly-fussy bodices are the same for every challenge. This dress was just a tiny bit different from his original challenge dress, and yet none of the judges commented on that. At this point last season, Nina and Michael Kors were breathing down Austin's neck for having a narrow vision and I think Santino's vision is just as narrow.
The judges also ripped into Katie Gerdes for her unfinished gem in the doggie challenge, but NONE of them say anything about Santino's hot mess of frayed unfinished hems sticking out like an eyesore.
I guess it pays to be an obnoxious bullying asshole.
The bodice on Santino's dress looked to me like he threw some fabric onto a propeller and then sewed together the result. Too thick, too busy, and frankly it looks like something a teenager might design - he just kept going and going. Actually, the more I think about it, I'd call it the fashion equivalent of a first-grader's classroom art project.
Santino's designs are now all starting to play out the same "look"/theme. Lots of busy braids, embellishments, ruffley wicketity whack tack. I went back and looked at them all, even the very 1st "winning" one. He does not know how to do "clean lines" to save his life.
Santino is officially the head of the House of Whack Attack. I actually loved the color and fabric that he chose for his dress, but enough with the Whack, dude! I thought the weird "blue burlap gym rope" strap was hideous. I also thought the silhouette of his dress looked like every other dress designed. But, he did sell himself really well. Gotta give him some props for busting out those stiletto pumps. Girlfriend was working it at that party.
He is such a dork.
-- desertwind
good color.
good model.
messy dress.
but...i have to say...chloe is not one note.
I have to agree with the comparison's to Uli's couture dress.
This is that dress if it were schitzophrenic, high on meth and up for six days straight.
I really liked this dress, though Santino's behavior w/Nicky Hilton made me want to throw my Chunky Monkey at the TV screen.
Why were Richie Rich and Traver Rains there? I realize that they dress the Hiltons, but shouldn't they be guest judges rather than guests at a fake party?
sewhat? said...
Thank you for the "jaded seen-it-alls" comment. This is at the bottom of ALL the bad judging on ALL the Bravo shows. Just because something is "new" or "hasn't been done before" does not mean that it is good or should be done.
Have they ever thought that someone else at some other time thought of the same thing and REJECTED it as a bad idea???
Your comment about the "jaded seen-it-alls" sums up the problems with so many of the judges' decisions on each season of PR-it certainly explains why they have peed in their pants over some of the wretched excesses we've seen.
Sure, it wasn't all that flattering, but it was a great color, and had an ease to it. If you look at the (to me, less flattering) Chloe dress that Nicky ACTUALLY wore, they both have an esoteric quality, that might make the wearer feel a step above(?). It's made with beautiful fabrics, but their treatment is very careless and care-free, like she usually seems to go for. And the skirt gave enough movement to show anyone in it a fun and flirty time dancing. Who cares what you look like, as long as you have fun? And, if nothing else, just go out and buy another one!
With the need for negative attention, Santino is like Puck from Real World 3.
KiP
Sigh. I am one of Santino's defenders, but I wonder if that's because I like the "bad boys."
No matter if, say, I were a gay man, or if Emmett, Nick, and Santino were straight, I would say, "Nick, Emmett, you're both such kind, well-spoken, respectful, respectable, successful men...but what I really want is an ill-mannered lout!"
I definitely need more therapy.
The man can't sew. Nuff said.
The man can't sew. Nuff said.
Ms Place. You tell me what designers you know that can sew using a sewing machine ?
It doesn't mattter one iota you idiot.
You and the teabaggers are now really drawing the line.
Nuff said.
"P. Biter said...
The man can't sew. Nuff said.
Ms Place. You tell me what designers you know that can sew using a sewing machine ?
It doesn't mattter one iota you idiot.
You and the teabaggers are now really drawing the line.
Nuff said."
Is that your new "name" Alec Smart?
You just can't get enough of this site and its readers, can you?
Don't call Ms. Place an idiot just because you happen to disagree with her. You know, if you chose your words a bit more carefully, you'd probably find someone who'd listen.
Hahahahahahaha. Who am I kidding?
If he'd had his tounge any further up Nicky Hilton's ass, he'd have been able to lick her eyebrows.
He's such a kiss-up.
p. biter,
There are plenty of designers who can sew. Chloey. Daniel. Laura. To name a few. Jay sewed superbly using (gasp) a machine.
Santino's ego is bigger than his talent. That's why I ragged on him. Follow?
Oh, and I don't go around calling people I don't know names just because I disagree with them. My momma raised me better.
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