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"Congratulations...Ricky. You're the winner."
"Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo! It's like a roller coaster! I'm...I'm a WINNER! It feels like - like...WINNING!"
"I can't believe that fucker won instead of me."
"I can't believe these old judges gave it to that fucker instead of me."
"I can't believe I'm going home and that fucker just won."
"The Botox has frozen my face in this position."
"God, I love watching these fuckers cry. I could sit here all day."
Seriously?
This clearance-rack-at-Bebe tackorama took the prize last night? The judges all swooned over it and from where we were sitting, there were at least two FAR worthier candidates for the win.
Sure the reworking of the button fly was kind of cute, but that's about the only thing we liked.
For all his bragging about how no one there could fit denim as well as he could, it sure is kinda tight and puckery. Although to be fair, looking closely at it like this, we can see he constructed the hell out of that fabric.
It's just ... ew. It's tacky and too short and sits too low on her boobs and we hate the ruffle on the skirt. Everything about it says "stripper's night off."
So he styled her like Amy Winehouse. Big deal. What did that have to do with anything? Are we really supposed to hold that toothless crackhead up as a style icon now? Darlings, count us OUT on that one.
We were shocked out of our seats when Tim proclaimed it "stunning!" We should have had more faith in him. He addressed this in his Tim's Take:
"I don’t know who was more surprised by his win -- Ricky or me. I cannot tell a lie: I was profoundly concerned about his look. I thought it was too basic and too poorly finished. On the show, you hear me say, “It’s stunning,” and it’s true that I did say it, as in, “Fix all of this and make certain that it’s stunning.” The editors were stuck with a conundrum, because so little of what I said to Ricky (and I said a lot) could be used."
Now, it's possible that Tim's just covering his ass, but we tend to believe him on this because the aesthetic is so far away from what he usually likes.
"Basic." That about covers it. Basic with a side of tacky. Then again, what do we know? According to the Levi's site, this dress has already sold out, proving once again that the goal isn't to reward the best designer this season, but to reward the most retailable designs.
Yeah, we're cranky. Sue us.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 229 Newer› Newest»C'mon, Ricky did a beautiful job! Christian's and Rami's were too weird for my taste.
I nearly peed myself. This look is juniors department at the Wal-Mart in Mountain Home, Arkansas-not NYC runway chic.
Did the judges (oops, producers) EVEN SEE Rami OR Christian OR Sweet P's looks? What a load!
$168? Shut up! How many did they make that they're sold out? Juniors dept, indeed.
ANONYMOUS-
christian's was AMAZING! rami's too! are you on crack like the judges!? did you even see how rami used the zipper on his dress, or how christian was the only innovative person in the entire challenge who really reworked a pair of pants and made a stunning jacket, or how he made pants out of the jacket?? it was truly amazing. i'm on team christian for sure. he better win this season or i'm suing.
I thought it was cute...for my 20 year old sister. She would look adorable in it. Is it my taste? No! But it was the most marketable, played up to the 501 brand, and was styled correctly.
Much like THE dress Jay designed in season one (the Chrysler Building dress, what else?) other designs (Sweet P and Rami) lost out because of the difficulty in manufacturing.
Is it fair? No, simply because they did not know they were designing an outfit for mass-market production. But, I can see why the results went the way they did.
If Ricky makes it to fashion week I may never watch this show again. He has produced such garbage for the past - how many weeks???? - and now won a challege. Yeah, his was iconic because it looks old - so 1980s and not retro. Christian or Rami should have won that challenge. I think they did not pick Christians because it was 2 pieces and very intricate.
I fear Ricky will be in the final 3 because of his struggles in life - he has mentioned them in passing. I am sick of them cherry picking people who hurdled over life's challenges instead of people that are extermely talented. If you don't have a problem, don't apply to this show.
Christian is the next Versace or designer who has over the top personality and incredible talent. And his youth is a bonus. I am so sick and tired of young designers being told - you are too young. Daniel Vos. should have won that seaon instead of the other woman. But, alas he was too young for $100,000 and a contract.
Yeah, this pick for a winner was shocker to me as well. Considering some of the innovative, well-done and pretty pieces that dress was up against last night, I actually shrieked at my TV last night after the announcement. Some folks were seriously robbed.
Especially considering that the model's styling was reworked floach bait.
Maybe crack is the new Cosmo?
The judges did this because it was just too easy to see that Christian, Rami, and Jillian are going to the final 3. If it's a final 4, add in (yawn!) Chris March, because nobody loves the Big Non-Threatening Fat Desexed Gay Guy like Bravo does.
So we got a lousy design winning a Levi's challenge. Next week, Ricky will be out in a SHOCKING turnaround from next week. It was pretty obvious that the judges have been praying that the crying one would present something decent enough to give him the win, because he makes for bad drama, if not for good competition.
christian should definitely win. it's wrong to cast amazing designers for the show just to tell them that they need time to mature. i.e. daniel vosovic, michael knight..
I liked it. I don't think it was super original, but I think he had the best combination of fit, body-flattering, and fashion forwardness. I think Tim's assessment of the fit was unfair. As we've seen on this show, fitting a tube dress (especially without stretch) isn't all that simple.
I think Rami's would have been the winner for me if I hadn't really hated the neck, Christian's if he hadn't done the same thing again with that jacket and made his model look like she had a pooch, or Sweet P's if it hadn't included so much light denim which looks so cheap and takcy to me. Personal taste issue.
Can't say I thought it was incrediby exciting, but can't say I liked another one that much better, all things considered.
Whatever. He'll go home next week or the week after.
Patrick said:
"Next week, Ricky will be out in a SHOCKING turnaround from next week."
Totally agree! Very much like Zulema from season two who won the ice challenge and lost the next one and was out.
If he'd lengthened the dress and eliminated the ruffle at the bottom, it would have been far better.
I think it's likely that they chose the dress that's the easiest to mass-market. Sure, Christian and Rami, and even Sweet Pea's, were more innovative, but they were more complicated to make. This, in my opinion, is a legitimate way to judge the clothes, but they should have made that known before people started designing. They just told them to "be iconic" and it wasn't until judging that they heard that it has to be mass-produced.
i thought it was okay. surprised that it won.
but since i'm off topic continually, . . .
Amy Winehouse. Big deal. What did that have to do with anything? Are we really supposed to hold that toothless crackhead up as a style icon now?
really? amy's a mess, it's true, but she's upholding a tradition of tragic female star messdom a la marilyn and janis and anna nicole and others.
as a reformed mess, i'll lift a cup of coffee to my girl, because amy's got a voice and it's luscious. and she's probably going to die of addiction, and that's a tragedy and a loss.
TLo, you should do perpetual thought bubbles over Nina's head. I love how you do Nina!!
Also love that you have Christian calling them "old" judges. Perfect.
As for strippers day off and basic with a side of tacky - well aren't a lot of the kids dressing like that? I personally hate it. But with all the celebutantes, pole dancing classes and real housewives of OC out there...well, I can see why it might sell out.
I do think it is well made and fit. But I thought Rami's was better. The judges clearly favored the dark denim and the short tight and strapless, and Ricky had all three, god bless him.
somebody did mention that the challenge was looking for something sellable. and we all know sellable doesn't necessarilly mean fashion forward.
I wonder if this is the dress that Tim had talked about in that interview pre-season, where he and the designer were sure the judges were going to auf the designer, and he ended up winning.
I've given up trying to figure out most of the reasons why the judges do what they do. It's always so arbitrary and mercurial.
Wow, I had just checked the Levi's site and saw that it had sold out and came back here and you had this post up.
I agree the dress is tacky, but so are the rest of them. No denim dress is ever nice. Period.
Even though it was stale too, I think Christian should have won.
love seeing you back around the blog, bigassbelle :)
I remember reading a quote from Tim before the season started about one designer's look that was an absolute disaster, and it ended up winning. He said both he and the designer were shocked at the result. I suspect it was this episode he was talking about.
How could they hate Chris', which I thought was much better made, with that rough edge which was at least different, and love Ricky's?? It makes no sense to me. I think they gave it to him so they can send him home next time. Yippee!!
The guest judge got to pick the winner... and so it was Ricky.
They should have told the designers in the beginning about the retail hook since it played such a big factor in picking the winner.
Christian and Rami were robbed.
If you looked at Levis.com, you will see that the dress there was made of stretch material.
I am with you guys...styling his model like Amy Winehouse should have been cause for immediate elimination. She's hiddy! Your "thoughts" from the other designers and judges are too funny! I'm dyin' here! My little Christian was robbed last night.
"God, I love watching these fuckers cry. I could sit here all day."
Hahahahahaha!
The outfit? Meh.
This season is all about retailable crap. Is this a show about the next American designer or a sweatshop?
It was obvious to me that Ricky won because it was saleable at the Gap. The mass market chain stores have been pushing that hoochie-mama look for the past five years.
I'll give Ricky his props for producing a really good hoochie dress, but I still would rather see Sweet P's dress in the stores. Rami's was good, too, but waaaaaay too sophisticated for the Gap.
Of course, the challenge wasn't "make something we can sell to vapid teenagers" but rather "make something classic." I call shenanigans on the judges basing the win on something other than the challenge objective.
I guess I put a lot of stock in Tim's proclamation that the dress was "stunning", while I didn't love the dress, I thought it must look better in person since Tim mentioned it looked that good. I had no idea that the editors were editing his advice too (which is very disappointing).
I had no problems with Ricky winning this one. I preferred Sweet P's and Rami's, but I wasn't as confused by this win as, say, Victorya's prom dress or Vincent's mom outfit in S3.
This dress and the styling looked cheap and hookerish. I like Amy Winehouse too, but when I say that I mean her music. And I didn't get the lingerie aspect at all. Chris's was much more form-fitting, va-va-voom. This win is inexplicable, but I take heart in the fact that Nina will seek retribution for all that blubbering on her runway.
Thank God there's no immunity anymore.
I think it's cute. I think it won because it showcased 2 things that Levi's is known for: topstitching and those rivets. And it looks easier to mass-produce than the superior Rami's.
I have no problem with this win. Sure Ricky is annoying, but that's no reason to give him a hard time when he finally gets it right.
"Christian is the next Versace or designer who has over the top personality and incredible talent. And his youth is a bonus."
I don't get the Christian love. I lived through the 80s and Christian keeps redoing the 80s with those fitted jackets with pleats on the front, and the tight jeans pants. Chris was the brains behind the elaborateness of the dress last week, as it looked like stuff in his portfolio, only elegant.
But Christian is for sure much better than Ricky. Blech.
After Ricky's opening interview, I figured it was either a win or a boot for him. I was hoping for the boot, but I have to admit that he at least earned the chance to stick around for another week.
Ricky's look wasn't the best, but it was the one that said "Levi's" most clearly. I think Rami's dress was much more interesting and Sweet P's far more beautiful, but Ricky's had a sort of generic chic that satisfied the challenge. So I understand the decision, even if I don't much like it.
I think Rami should have won. The only reason that I have some reservations (aside from how badly he treated Sweet P) is the use of zippers as trim a la Jeffrey Sebelia.
I swear to God, I want to give that man something to cry about. Seriously, how can anybody in his daily life STAND. THE. CRYING.
And wtf was the creaming all over him about how he's finally given them what they've been waiting for?
Why the hell did Nina's hair look even worse than last week? Has she lost her brush? Have they all lost their minds?
I didn't like this look but concur with others that while Christian's was amazing, this was the easiest to mass market. Fug!
And why was Tim so dour? Did he not get enough drinks at dinner? WHY o WHY can't we see more Tim?
*sob*
(Big Ass Belle, Bill is right. Plese post more, we NEED you here.)
Well, I'm sure as shit not going to sue you. Gawd. I thought Christian should have won this one, I would have been able to deal with Rami or Sweet P winning, but this? They are indeed smoking the crack.
In my living room it was dubbed "throw Ricky a bone" week. The dress reminded me of Kara's Barbie outfit in Season 2 for some reason (which was in the bottom 2.) There are a lot of 16 year olds that will look cute in it, I suppose...
It seemed like the judges were impressed with Ricky's look beacuse it was decent and cute--especially in comparison to the rest of his body of work for the show.
Their expectations were probably higher for the rest of the designers.
"The editors were stuck with a conundrum, because so little of what I said to Ricky (and I said a lot) could be used."
Well, what does that mean? Does that mean that Tim hated it and the producers didn't want to use the footage of him saying so because they knew Ricky had won (or had to win)?
Patrick said:
"Next week, Ricky will be out in a SHOCKING turnaround from next week."
And the judges know they can look good giving the poor kid a bone with one hand and then take it away with the other because now there is NO IMMUNITY. Quite convenient...
I really give Ricky credit for not completely losing his self-confidence and just giving up. I respect him more for rising to the challenge than how the other designers gave up and sent crap down the runway just because they didn't like the fabric they had to use.
The most interesting thing to me was watching the judges praise him like parents of a retarded child who finally got the square peg in the square hole.
adigal said:
"I don't get the Christian love. I lived through the 80s and Christian keeps redoing the 80s with those fitted jackets with pleats on the front, and the tight jeans pants. Chris was the brains behind the elaborateness of the dress last week, as it looked like stuff in his portfolio, only elegant."
OK FIRST, CHRISTIAN MADE THE DRESS. all chris did was make the collar. christian also made the second look. on top of that, he changed it after tim said it looked cheap. so basically, he made two second looks, and the dress, and chris made the collar.
Well, I was at least glad we finally got rid of Victorya. If Ricky couldn't be auf'd, at least Victorya was. She did not deserve to be in the Final 3 at all.
Ricky's dress stunk, but it was fun seeing him get all Sally Fields on us: "You LIKE me! You really LIKE me!" Of course, Sweet P and Rami had the best outfits this time. And I liked Chris's 3rd best, though I don't think he should have left the sides frayed.
Maybe we aren't seeing more of TIm because the designers seem to be ignoring him - with the exception of Sweet P. And he saved her this week.
That's just not fair, I know it's not his fault, but man, fucking Wendy Pepper all over again, he doesn't produce anything interesting the whole season and when he does something OK he lands himself an opportunity like that, to sell his design at a major store, just like Wendy and her Banana Republic dress.
I'm laughing my ass off at Ricky winning. Seriously, I don't think his dress was bad, as hoochie as it was. But DAMN, is he unlikeable.
I don't get the Rami love. I thought his was crap. Christian was the clear winner for me, by a mile. Those insane pants! He's irritating but he's crazy talented.
WENDY PEPPER IS A NASTY BITCH.
Babies....
I said THE EXACT SAME THING... Up to the stripperwear bit.
I am FLOORED that this thing won.
And I seriously was going to write that the judges were on crack but it was hard to try to come up with an illicit drugs theme for my blog...
Maybe a "Traffic" thing with the whole Amy Wino-house bit...LOL
I am thinking that Risky is the Scott Savol of PR...( I don't know if you are AI fans but it was a bad contestant that outlasted far worthier performers in the Carrie Underwood season).
I was already PISSED about Marie getting auffed because she rocks but this dress winning just... made me nauseaous.
No one I know would wear it.
Love,
Milla
Win this week. Auf next.
Tip your hat, Fucker!
Fugly and so not original!
Every hoochie mamma I know already owns one of those. It's the 'I'm-still-sexy' look in the burbs.
Every season has had at least one designer who hangs on way too long. We can add Ricky to the ranks with Wendy, Zulema, Santino, and Vincent.
I am sure that Tim ragged on the dress for being common and hoochie looking. That is why they couldn't use his comments. Because after it won and Levis (the sponser)was selling the dress online, they couldn't have Tim dissing it on TV.
I'm with you, bitchesdye...I thought it was cute! Don't throw your Manolos at me, please! No, it wasn't fashion forward. But are Levi's "fashion forward"? That being said, I'm not sure I would have picked him for the win. Maybe Rami, maybe even Sweet P.
And Christian, I'm sorry PP, but YOU DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER!!!! How was that jacket/jeans much different from the outfit he created for the "real woman"?
If that's a button fly i'd like to meet the man who needs a crotch that long in his jeans.
CHRISTIAN=AMAZING
ENOUGH SAID.
THANK YOU, TLo!!! I thought I was the only one screaming "WTF?!?! O.o" to my TV.
This dress can be found at any corner in Rio. Seriously. Extremely basic and of dubious taste
I'm not even sure he re-used the buttons as Levi's provided rivers of findings for them.
The boot did not help. At all. I was looking at the picture at the Levi's site and it looks sooooo much better there. But that's because they changed the buttons, made the ruffle longer and more drapery and added some appropriate shoes!
I gotta give to him that he really re-constructed the piece. I give him that., but, IMO, both Sweet P (my choice for winner), Rami (even though I keep picturing a diaper) and Christian's ( Deja Vu of all his jackets?Ruffle and Puffsleves) designs were better than his.
Oh, well... At least he didn't get immunity.
plus what was the deal with all the oohing and aahing over the zippers on Rami's dress? that is so last season/Jeffrey Sebelius.
I totally thought it looked hooker-ish, too. This season has me wondering if the judges and I are watching the same show.
Everyone just calm down. the judges were creaming themselves over this dress, but it doesn't really mean anything significant for the other designers. There is no immunity for Ricky, so the win is sort of hollow, if you ask me. And I believe they felt bad for him and wanted to throw him a bone. And, yes, being able to mass produce the dress and sell it to the great unwashed was part of the reason it won. Had the designers known this little tidbit from the beginning, they all would have gone in different directions, I bet.
Regardless, Ricky's was not the most innovative nor the most well made.
I'm not making fun of him at all when I say this, but is Ricky about 4 feet tall? Because his model is easily 18 inches taller than him!
And what the hell was up with Nina's hair this week? So many straggly fly-aways. Ugh. It looked like she had rubbed a birthday party balloon all over her head right before they started taping.
I can't believe that Levi's is peddling that shit for 168 dollars! Ricky's dress was well made, but at this point is well made enough... isn't that what is exspected. Rami, SweetP and Chrisitan where robbed.
I thought it was well-done and fit the concept of the challenge.
I loved that Ricky won the episode in which Victorya was eliminated. If that ain't poetic justice, I don't know what is. I stopped rooting for her when she was so nasty to him.
I thought Rami or Sweet Pea were stronger contenders for the win, but that Levi wouldn't have sold as many of their dresses. I'm sick of the judges rewarding marketability vs. ingenuity. Why don't they just have a competition between designers for TARGET? They can sell a slew of dresses there with PR's product placement.
The most interesting thing to me was watching the judges praise him like parents of a retarded child who finally got the square peg in the square hole.
awesome. lol! that is totally the case. and he makes his own hats!
"Next week, Ricky will be out in a SHOCKING turnaround from next week."
Totally agree! Very much like Zulema from season two who won the ice challenge and lost the next one and was out.
And in homage to both Zulema and Ricky, TLo will title that post: "CRY AND CUT"
Yeah, Ricky's mess was a lit-, no a lot of stripper's night off, but to call Rami innovative for the zippers? Please. Maybe in Season 3 when Jeffrey Sebelia did it in the finale, but now? Uh-uh. Seen it all before.
This was a bit like the Banana Republic challenge in S1 in that, when they are choosing a look to put in the store, they have to take manufacturing costs & price points into account. In that challenge, both Jay & Kara Saun had much more fabulous dresses, but they obviously would have cost too much to produce for the BR price point.
Same with this challenge. I seem to recall them not saying it would be sold by Levis til midway through, & I'm thinking that some of them would designed different garments had they known that at the beggining.
I was happy for Ricky, that he'll be able to go home with one win under his belt. Though I do wonder how, with all this crying, he doesn't get dehydrated.
BTW, one more thing I noticed last night, in his interview about his gament, Ricky said the look was: 'just what I want it look like.'
Or did he say it was: 'Just what I wanted to look like.' I couldn't tell.
Either way, the judges were right in one way: He has lived up to his lingerie background: He has bunch a lot of people's panties.
--GothamTomato
Think of it: if you walked into a Levis flagship store, this dress would fit into the aesthetic, not Rami's, Sweet P's or even Christian's. It WAS the most "Levi's" of all of them, whether you like the look or not.
I immediately thought of Amy Winehouse when the model came down the runway. While Amy Winehouse is definitely talented, she's a hot mess, not a fashion icon. He did a lot of contrasting topstitching, which can be tricky to do, and have it look right. I didn't care for it at all, but then, it's not marketed to me.
Good to see you back BigAssBelle!
TLo - "The Botox has frozen my face in this position."
Juliann K. - "I really give Ricky credit foThe most interesting thing to me was watching the judges praise him like parents of a retarded child who finally got the square peg in the square hole."
ROFLMAO.
Can I just say that this blog is the best thing that ever came out of this show?
And what the hell was up with Nina's hair this week? So many straggly fly-aways. Ugh. It looked like she had rubbed a birthday party balloon all over her head right before they started taping.
Very funny! Clearly Nina herself needs a trip to the Tressamé salon.
Especially since Michael obviously has spent too much time getting orange in the L'Oreal makeup room.
After that, both of them can check out the Bluefly wall for the right shoes to wear with Sweet P's dress.
juliann k. said...
"The most interesting thing to me was watching the judges praise him like parents of a retarded child who finally got the square peg in the square hole."
That's nice. *puke*
I saw a picture of the Levi version. It looked better than Ricky's original, I'll give them that.
Christian and Rami were robbed.
I don't think so! Christian's was more of the same (and rather slutty-looking, at that). Rami's was okay, except for the collar weirdness.
The one who got robbed was Sweet P.
Kana, you're hysterical.;oD
I didn't like Ricky's dress at all (read: HATE IT), but I guess it cames closest to the crazy criteria of 'innovative' 'iconic' and 'mass producible'.
Even if I still had the bod I had in my 20's I wouldn't be caught dead in that thing. At any age.
I found myself liking Chris' and SweetP's (gasp!) dresses the most, probably because they had fewer bells and whistles (buttons and zippers) than some of the other fare.
And I don't know what it is about Ricky, but he just grates more than most.
Better episode than most so far, though.
I think that Ricky's look won because it was judged more commercial, easier to reproduce.
HOWEVER-did the judges go overboard praising this or what?
Tim was definitely right when he said that some of the judges' decisions were going to make viewers crazy.
i know it's been said already that there is heavy editing on the show, but the manipulation as revealed by Tim's Take is too much for me this time. the show's really losing credibility with me. why do they have to edit tim's comments to the designer to support the judge's decision? what does it matter, at all? michael rucker, andy cohen and the rest of the magical elves - shame on you. i'm not comparing this to an actual news show or anything, but the lack of integrity shown is disappointing. call me naive, over reacting, whatever. as a long time fan, this really sucked.
The thing is also; none of the looks were truly iconic. But this dress did say 'Levis'.
And it also said Jersey shore.
--GothamTomato
Thank you! This along with what Princess Christian said, "if I have to look at one more tube dress I'm gonna die" sums up this whole episode!
"the goal is. . . to reward the most retailable designs."
Exactly. Easy to make, easy to sell. And while not that different from Chris', which they hated, it was perhaps the most Levi's-like design in the bunch. So. . . good for Ricky. I'm glad for him, but then I'm not very partisan about the whole thing.
Great post, boys!
Re: Ricky and his unexpected win...
(a) He made a cute denim dress.
(b) He made a cute denim dress that shows a lot of piecing and sewing work on his part.
(c) I didn't think it was any better than (or even as good as) Rami's cute denim dress, but I think the shock value of Ricky not making crap temporarily overcame the judges.
(d) I'm just glad that Fiercy McFiercson didn't win, because that anorexic Hell's Angel ensemble made the model look completely ridiculous. :-p
Unfortunately or fortunately the only rebellion style in youth today is "Wow I the tacky hooker, ooh how I impress myself. I am so bad, bad, bad, oh and by the way mom I need a new 168 bucks to look real rebellious and tacky. Goll, I am such a slut. "
I like rebellion better when what and who you are rebelling against isn't funding it. The cutting edge of fashion is getting rather dull from overuse
Did anyone else LOVE that Heidi asked "What's up with you?" when Ricky started crying? He's not fooling her one bit with those crocodile tears.
That said, I liked the dress. Not breathtaking, but youthful and retail-ready.
"pterion said...
Did anyone else LOVE that Heidi asked "What's up with you?" when Ricky started crying? He's not fooling her one bit with those crocodile tears."
My impression of that different: It was that she was trying to egg him on, to get more drama for the cameras.
--GothamTomato
I don't get the Rami love. I thought his was crap. Christian was the clear winner for me, by a mile. Those insane pants! He's irritating but he's crazy talented.
Word, fnarf. I could not have said it better myself. I thought Rami was bottom two for sure (though I knew Victorya was getting the auf as soon as her model turned the corner).
And speaking of Victorya, I had no problem with Ricky winning this one -- his dress was a mile better then that monstrosity that won the prom dress challenge (I am STILL enraged about that). I loved Christian's pants, but other than his look there wasn't anything else on the runway that I thought was really awesome this week.
#1. Cool it with the mean Amy Winehouse jokes. There's nothing funny about a woman in pain, desperate to destroy herself.
#2. Ew to the ruffle to the skirt to the puckered tube to the button fly to the trim. Ew all around. This silly dress screamed early 90's Seventeen Magazine cover to me. It is not okay!!
Well, TLo Ricky succeeded in making a commercial and stylish look. You may think it's stripper tack, but I don't think so. I feel a sense of bias here.
You are absolutely correct that there were strong looks down the runway. But in the end, the winning look was going to be retailed and Ricky did meet that requirement. I think he did a nice job.
But there were looks I preferred on the runway, but understand why for this particular challenge he won.
Now if this challenge decided who was going to bryant park, I'd be fuming. But let Ricky have a win. He did a good job and it's nice to see someone who has struggled finally do something fashion worthy. He also doesn't have immunity, another reason why i have zero problem with this win.
GothamTomato said...
"pterion said...
Did anyone else LOVE that Heidi asked "What's up with you?" when Ricky started crying? He's not fooling her one bit with those crocodile tears."
My impression of that different: It was that she was trying to egg him on, to get more drama for the cameras.
--GothamTomato
Sometimes Heidi seems really cruel or indifferent to the designers, doesn't she?
All been said already, except: was Heidi wearing a Laura Bennett last night? The girls were out in all their Victoria's Secret Glory for sure (I bet Kevin is sorry he was cut before this challenge), but I did think the dress was adorable.
Win or lose, Ricky's tears roll on.
Oh, well. Even crazy Vincent won one. That front button area is sorta cute...
I hate denim dresses anyway. So - bleh!
I think I owned that dress in 1995. Mine had straps, though. Momma didn't let me out of the house looking like an 80s hooker.
"pterion said: That said, I liked the dress. Not breathtaking, but youthful and retail-ready."
On that I agree. I don't get a 'hooker' or 'hootchie' vibe from it. Though I guess, with all the wrong accesories, it could say 'Showgirls'. I can see that. Maybe. But it actually does look exactly like what teenage girls would buy, at the mall, to wear down the shore.
Choosing it wasn't the crime of the century. But it is another one of those challenges where a guest judge throws a louie into the works.
--GothamTomato
I actually really liked the outfit!
Thank you, and thank you again. I know that I don't have an eye for fashion and have given up on trying to figure out ahead of time what will be considered "fashion forward" vs. "fug." But I totally thought the judges were going to call him on the puckering, only to hear them trample each other in an effort to be the first to congratulate him on how well it fit. *sigh* I just don’t get it. But at least I’m in agreement with you guys – makes me feel a little better about my initial reaction.
mike.motaku said...
Yeah, Ricky's mess was a lit-, no a lot of stripper's night off, but to call Rami innovative for the zippers? Please. Maybe in Season 3 when Jeffrey Sebelia did it in the finale, but now? Uh-uh. Seen it all before.
I haven't seen anyone praising Rami's use of the zipper teeth as a trim on this thread or saying it was completely original. It has been done before way before Jeffery Sebelia did it last year. I had a black mini dress with that trim in 1984 .
Ricky did a good job, but, in my opinion, Sweet P's dress should have won. In fact, Sweet P should have won the prom challenge as well. I would love it if she made it all the way to the finals. She seems to be the only designer who actually LISTENS to Tim Gunn's comments and takes them to heart. If she hadn't on this design and gone with her original concept of a denim wedding dress, she'd probably have been auf'ed instead of VictorYa.
To the anonymous that posted this:
"i know it's been said already that there is heavy editing on the show, but the manipulation as revealed by Tim's Take is too much for me this time."
I remember reading a Tim Gunn interview where he talked about what he actually said when he saw Chloe's collection for the first time in NYC.
He said that he asked her where the ottoman was, or something to that effect, because the fabric looked like something used for upholstery. That didn't make it to the TV show, naturally.
wannabe said...
All been said already, except: was Heidi wearing a Laura Bennett last night? The girls were out in all their Victoria's Secret Glory for sure (I bet Kevin is sorry he was cut before this challenge), but I did think the dress was adorable.
Hi wannabe,
No, that wasn't a Laura Bennett. We text-messaged her as soon as we saw the dress : - )
XO
T&L
This look is iconic Frederick's of Hollywood. Julia Roberts could have worn it in the opening scene of Pretty Woman. The fix must be in!
You guys are so wonderful, you keep expressing what I just can't. I had this total jaw-hitting-my-chest moment when this poo won.
It's not a titscrepancy, but any woman with more than a AA is looking ho-city in this.
I don't begrudge Li'l Ricky his win but s**t, I couldn't believe Michael when he said that he just knew when this dress came out from behind that they'd finally seen what Ricky can do.
huh?????
I'm thinking Ms. Levis had much more to do with this one - what can I sell? rather than what is innovative or cool.
However, I was not a fan of Rami's zippers - Jeffrey's green and white striped runway dress, anyone? And i wasn't impressed with that, either. eh, so you can break a zipper and sew it into a seam....
I just love your captions - can't wait to see Alex!'s next cartoon, too.
This was the only look on the runway that could have been produced commercially. Christian's was gorgeous and innovative, but there's no way it could have been mass produced (even in limited quantities). Same with Rami's. I think they were stuck deciding between Sweet P and Ricky just for commercial possibilities.
Did you see that the dress they sold at Levis.com had 2% spandex? A little stretch solves many of Ricky's problems with the garment.
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I think Ricky got the win so they can auf him and then BRING HIM BACK (along with VictorYA!, who also won before getting auf'd) for a drama-fest with the Final 4.
Remember how they did that with Flower Girl and Scary Boy in Season 3? GENIUS.
Misfits, yes.
Whores, perhaps.
But misers?!?
okay - i gotta disagree with you boys on this one. the challenge was to make something that captured the spirit of the 501 jeans & could be sold by levis in a range of sizes. ricky's design fit that brief. and it was cute. AND it sold out within hours. kind of remarkable!
sure, it's not as innovative as rami's or christian's, but that wasn't the point. plus both of those designs were too complicated to mass produce. and, not for nothing, but only a handful of consumers can fit into christian's jeans, cute as they are.
yes, ricky's dress is really for young consumers, but that is the brand's target audience. and on a young girl, this kinda sweet.
i give ricky credit for rallying so late in the competition to produce a winning garment. while season favorites were dragging themselves to come up with something presentable, ricky played up his strengths & finally presented a polished garment. he deserves a bit of credit for this one.
I commented yesterday "get new judges" and I am sticking to it!
My bet is that they(the judges) made an agreement to only judge the outfit at hand and not look at past performance. Yet they seem to violate this at every turn. Seems like they took into account the past performance of Ricky and gave him the win just because this was "his" best effort not "the" best effort this week. (ditto the auffing of Elisa when "we expected more of you" was used as the reason.) While Victorya is auffed for fucking up once while she has won a few of the challenges. Not fair in my book. The judging is really tarnishing my enjoyment of the show and I am a fan since PR1.
I agree that Heide has turned into a major Bitch. Nina is droll and Kors has a vibrator stuck up his ass.
NEW JUDGES!!!!!
"finding the filth said...
not for nothing, but only a handful of consumers can fit into christian's jeans, cute as they are."
And do you think this little hoochie dress is going to look good on a range of sizes?
"sewing siren said: I haven't seen anyone praising Rami's use of the zipper teeth as a trim on this thread or saying it was completely original. It has been done before way before Jeffery Sebelia did it last year. I had a black mini dress with that trim in 1984."
So did I. I wonder if we had the same dress back in 1984.
But my grandmother used to say to me, that fashion was like a barrel; when you're done with something, you toss it in the barrel, and as each successive look goes out of style, you keep tossing them in. Then when the barrel is full, you turn it over and start pulling things out of the bottom, because they'll then be back in style.
--GothamTomato
" finding the filth said...
...The challenge was to make something that captured the spirit of the 501 jeans & could be sold by levis in a range of sizes. ricky's design fit that brief. and it was cute. AND it sold out within hours. kind of remarkable!"
"AND it sold out within hours. kind of remarkable!"
Nothing remarkable about that. It only proves that there are plenty of tacky people with money out there.
Real fashionistas wouldn't be caught dead in that thing.
Not to mention that everybody wants a piece of PR and God knows how many were actually produced.
Well....at least this episode gave us some excitement (good or exasperating)! Lots of good banter amongst the designers was going on.
I guess the Levi's Ms. Calvin was looking at this challenge from a business standpoint. What would sell and fit the Levi's philosophy the most. From that, it's understandable that Ricky won.
Everybody looked like "What? This Bitch just won??" Ricky's dress isn't too bad, yet it doesn't good enough to win this competition. I loved Christian's or Rami's. (If I was wrong, beat me so hard!) If Ricky could reach to the top 3, PR ppl want drama rather than talent...This is not fierce at all....
"...but the dress is CUTE."
LOL.
"Cute" is a word that is frowned upon in the fashion industry.
Everybody - go immediately to Sewing Siren and click on her
denim dress!! Have been looking forward to this since the last challenge - tried to go back to see the others but they are no longer online.
Ms Siren - good work!! You get the win!!!
Gothamtomato-
Your grandmother was right. I laugh every time I go into a store and see stuff that I wore multiple decades ago being touted as "fashion forward".
Lilithcat, who from time to time wears a dress of her great-grandmother's.
Are we really supposed to hold that toothless crackhead up as a style icon now?
Ha! I love you boys. So true.
I think that Rami, Christian, and Sweet P all did a better job than Ricky. Ricky's look certainly wasn't the worst last night, but I just don't think it was the best.
Some brilliant poster called Ricky "The Chapeau of Tears", and I must agree. When he mentioned that he makes those horrid hats, we laughed like crazy. OK, spending money on that fug is bad enough, but to expend TIME and EFFORT to look like that? I was also pretty appalled that Levi's was selling that hooker dress for $168!
I thought Ricky's looks cute. But I think Chris's fits better & is cuter.
From the pictures, Christian's makes me barf & is seriously ugly. Same old puffy sleeved crap.
Winner? No to either one IMO.
I bet anyone dollars to donuts that dress (cough, cough) shows up on The Real Housewives of Orange County next season!! I shit you not, all those insane bitches will be wearing it....or trying to anyway.
I seriously wonder if this was the challenge Tim alluded to at the beginning of the season??? I think it was.
And call me crazy but I really liked Chris's dress. That little frayed bit was subtle and not to the duchess's "why didn't you fray it all over then?". Because sometimes too much frayed is just too much, but a little looks cool.
Oh, don't you think those Hausfraus of OC will want to wear RAMI? Yes, I can see them putting their teen daughters into Ricky's dress, oh...well...
you're right. Those hausfraus behave like teens, dress like teens, fuck like teens, fight like teens, drink like teens... by god! Did you see the baked sausage poured into Austin Scarlett's wedding dress remake?
Is it fair to dish on them here?
I'm at a loss to understand why everyone is so exercised about this challenge. There were 4 "cocktail" looks that were practically indistinguishable from one another (except that Sweet P didn't bother to put any rivets on--hello!). Any one of them could have won and I would have just shrugged. As I did.
And call me crazy but I really liked Chris's dress. That little frayed bit was subtle and not to the duchess's "why didn't you fray it all over then?". Because sometimes too much frayed is just too much, but a little looks cool.
I liked it, too. I wasn't crazy about the unfinished seaming (Chris, you must learn to listen to the Divine Miss Tim; she is wisdom personified), but the silhouette and details of his dress were very nice.
Besides, I hate it when Nina uses that "dated" crap as a criticism. In fashion, anything can be considered "dated", until some young turk resurrects the trend, and all the fashionistas go gaga over it.
And as far as I'm concerned, Queen Michael needs to stop spending so much time in tanning booths, because the cumulative effect is melting his big ol' gay brain. There wasn't a damn thing about Chris' dress that said "Joan Cusack in 'Working Girl'". Yeesg.
annonymous at 4:25 PM said...
"And do you think this little hoochie dress is going to look good on a range of sizes?"
actually, yes, i do. a girl who's a size 8 can pull off ricky's dress. but a girl the same size will never be able to pull off christian's super duper skinny jeans. ricky's ruffle skirt hides flaws that would otherwise be highlighted by christian's design.
sus said: "I had no problems with Ricky winning this one. I preferred Sweet P's and Rami's, but I wasn't as confused by this win as, say, Victorya's prom dress or Vincent's mom outfit in S3."
I agree mostly. I'd personally have chosen Rami's for the win, 'cause it rocked. But I'm glad he didn't 'cause his ego couldn't stand another win ("I'm from Israel, and I'm more fashion-forward, and I'm better than all these bitches..." ugh). But I'd give the win to Ricky over Sweet P, whose dress was alright, but still too boring and patchworky for me.
I'm not seeing what the judges or other commenters saw in Christian's look. Like Rami's last week, this is exactly the same look he's rolled out in 90% of these challenges. Hell, he did almost this exact outfit for the "once-fat-now-slim" challenge and won with it -- but he should have been called out for having sent this look down the runway too many times before.
And let's get real -- this isn't nearly as much of a crack-pipe moment as Victorya's win. Puh-leez.
I only started watching this show last year, Season 3, and came in at about the time Jeff was brutal to Angela's mother, but my impression of Heidi is that she is one mean woman. Watch the glint she gets in her eye when she is saying "one of you will be out," then she smiles. And when she criticizes one of the designers, she has that mean glint in her eyes again, and says unnecessarily brutal things to them. She did seem to feel badly when they auf'ed Chris M. and last week when she told one of the designers, "It is boring to me." She wasn't mean then, but she usually is.
I think Nina is kinder, and tries to teach the designers, or at least expresses herself better, Michael is mean, but at least he is funny part of the time, but Heidi is not funny, or amusing: she is just mean.
Ricky is deserved to win with that look. Sorry he did better in that challenge than the others. Give him some credit for a change.
Christian's outfit was another sad 80s redo that might suit a hooker. Chris' dress was nice and subdued and just plan hot in emphasizing the bust line of his model, he deserved better than what the judges said. Rami's eh, nothing special since the top so sorely fit around the boobs. The rest who really cares.
I think your taste level guys and knowledge of fashion has jumped the shark just like the show has this year. If you can dish it out then you better be able to take it in return.
Just wait until the wrestling episode next week. Egads how silly and desperate has the show become?
Victorya's win in the prom challenge as a crack pipe moment?? Absolutely!! I was just watching the rerun and she actually said to Tim, "I think these jewels will give it a rich look."
A rich look??? Gluing 12 cent rhinestones on the front of a dress?? Maybe a funky look, or a lively look, but what kind of aesthetic can she possibly have to call those cheap, arts and crafts beads "a rich look"? I was amazed that Tim let her get away with such nonsense! You don't have to be a NYC designer to know that the beads your kids used to glue onto their t-shirts for 4H projects did not give anything a "rich look"!!!
Ricky made his model look like a hooker.
I think that's really all that needs to be said on the subject.
"Anonymous said...
Ricky is deserved to win with that look. Sorry he did better in that challenge than the others. Give him some credit for a change."
How many times are you going to post the same thing anonymously?
We get it. You like Ricky, you liked his design.
"I think your taste level guys and knowledge of fashion has jumped the shark just like the show has this year. If you can dish it out then you better be able to take it in return."
Tim basically said the same thing. Has HIS taste level and knowledge of fashion jumped the shark too?
PLEASE!!! Express your opinion without insulting the rest of us.
You know what? I'm not done yet. I have to vent a little more, sorry boys.
It really annoys me how some people feel the need to insult others if one doesn't share the same opinion. He or she MUST be wrong and doesn't know what the hell he or she is talking about.
That is ridiculous, especially when it comes to taste.
AMEN! Ricky is such a CRY BABY and all his stuff looks like clearence rack at the Glendora Swap Meet...
Are we never going to be rid of him?
I can't be objective- in my heart of hearts I hate denim dresses. I'm just not going to like anything this challenge.
It's nice that Ricky finally made something to match a trucker hat. There. That's as nice as it gets this week.
And no new episode next week?? What the f....?!??!? How will they get down to 4 by Fashion Week? tw
clearance-rack at Bebe describes this PERFECTLY. Tacky as hell.
I honestly think that Christian would have won -- those pants were kick ass -- but that Levi's would not want them to become really popular and perhaps have to give the credit to Christian or run into issues if they wanted to come out with more than a one-time, limited edition. Just a theory . . . but supported by Heidi noting that "people would really go for those." I thought they were really innovative and fashion forward.
The Levi's site says that the proceeds from the sale of this dress will go to YouthAIDS. And it's sold out.
I'd love to know how many dresses they made & how much money they raised.
--GothamTomato
Cranky, but RIGHT! Why is that tricky lizard still on the show???
I'd love to know how many dresses they made & how much money they raised.
Me, too. Especially since Levi's outsourced the labor.
Ricky was the only designer who had a little energy this time. The rest are really deflated and/or distraught.
I can't imagine what's going to happen next week, making outfits for "professional" wrestlers. Good gawd, talk about desperate.
There were four different tube dresses on the runway this week. Victorya's design is the only one that stood out, but that was in a bad way. Ricky's dress actually kind of simplified design elements from Chris, Rami's and Sweet P's design. None of the looks on the runway had any kind of wow factor to me. I thought they all were just meh.
Ricky's dress was beyond fugly. It reminded me of one of the hideous dresses that Victoria Beckham would wear. Ricky might have won the challenge, but Levi's is laughing all the way to the bank.
Christian's creation was edgy and innovative, but Sweet P was the real winner. Her dress was stunning.
The quote of the day goes to Heidi to Waterworks Ricky: "What's wrong with you?" Poor little poof, he's a mess.
I disagree that his dress was the "Most Levi" of them all. First off what did Levi's first make? jeans and then the jean jacket.....so umm Christian's would have been the "MOST" Levi. His pants minus the Jacket would have been totally marketable. Let's face it the designers where set up if they would have known the full extent of the challange they would have though less about fashion and more about marketing. Not telling them there dress would be sold by Levi's was a little sneaky!
Nina "God, I love watching these fuckers cry. I could sit here all day."
lol! You guys are killen me today! Hilarious!
Did I miss something on the show? I didn't hear anything about making something sell-able by Levi Straus until they were well into the challenge - maybe even on the runway? I remember hearing "iconic."
I think the tube dress people missed out on making something that I would think of as iconic. There are references to the iconic stuff of Levi's 501s (the button thingies on Ricky's for example) but what the heck?
Sweet P started making an iconic item, the wedding dress. Good for her that she gave up and made a pretty dress in the end, but icon? uh uh. None of those dresses did that part of the challenge for me. The trenches, the biker jeans remake (hated the jacket, sorry, man, that brought out too much ugly even if it showed good craftsmanship), they were legitimate approaches even if in the case of the coats, misguided and in the case of VictorYa, horribly ugly.
Maybe what I'm getting around to is that, in something like the words of Our Time, "I'm concerned" about whether the challenge was misrepresented to the designers. Had the challenge focused on a new icon to sell on Levi's website, maybe we would have seen other stuff? Am I dreaming? Smoking crack?
I so agree with you on this one!
Kzspot
Psst.. TLo... VictorYA went home, not Jillian!
TLo - I think you should post Sewing Siren's sketches for all the future challenges. Maybe Bravo will see them & pick her up for PR S5. It would be great to have one of our own in the competition.
(sorry for volunteering you w/o permission, Siren, but I think you have the goods)
"The most interesting thing to me was watching the judges praise him like parents of a retarded child who finally got the square peg in the square hole."
BWAHAHA!! Ricky is a "special needs" designer, isn't he?
I'm more shocked that the producers intentionally edited Tim's words to justify Ricky's win. Are they that desperate?
This show is quickly losing credibility with its bizarre judging and now blatant dishonesty in editing. Seriously? How dare they manipulate Tim's words for Ricky? That's just unseemly.
"Anonymous said...
Psst.. TLo... VictorYA went home, not Jillian!"
Uh...yeah. The point is she THOUGHT she was going home. It's not that complicated.
That dress looks EXACTLY like what Paris Hilton wore on the first season of The Simple Life.
Oh, I miss pre-anorexic Nicole Richie...
Nina's blog is up. For once, it's useful to read it as a window into the judging. The challenge was to create, in Nina's view, "a new classic, iconic look" using 501s. "Classic," in her mind I think is a wardrobe basic -- the kind of thing that will not be likely to go out of style.
Based on that view, it seems she actually preferred SweetPs dress, inasmuch as it is a pretty, clean-lined thing with some cool visual interest. Unfortunately, not enough levis.
So Ricky, who made a tube dress with the classic button fly and a flouncy skirt wins -- the next simplest design after Sweet Ps which really reflected the Levis brand. (Had Chris pulled it out a little more, so to speak, he would have had the best shot, it seems, given her sensibilities).
Christian's pouffy jacket, though very fashion forward, ain't a classic. Nor was Rami's work, which very interestingly, she compares to his candy challenge dress and suggests he branch out a little more. She's not entirely wrong about that, now that I think about it.
Anyway, read la Chica's blog. See ya.
I just had a sudden flashback to Alberta (last week's guest judge) saying, "It looks chip. It's chip in a chip way."
Only in my fantasy, she is saying it to Ricky this week.
OMG you boys are the light of my life! I am laughing so hard, it hurts!
Both the last 2 blogs are priceless: the screen caps, "Shitastic", "Holy Shit level of ugly".....OMG you guys are a hoot!
I personally thought Rami's was the best and should have won. And Christian's outfit was a very very close second and if he had won, I would have been a happy gal.
Ricky's dress - all I liked were the buttons. The way the skirt was fitted and the ruffles on the bottoms, made the model's ass look a bit chunky. I can't quite believe it's sold out....!!
But ding dong Victorya is GONE!!!
Almost makes up for the fiasco is Ricky breaking down (again) on the runway!! It was a bit pathetic actually.....I know he's a sensitive lad but c'mon bitch, pull it together!
So wrong. He made a skinny ass model look like an overstuffed sausage.
I would have expected Rami or Christian to win. Maybe their looks, especially Christian's, were too edgy for Levi's mass-distribution designs. I think the judges gave the win to Ricky because it looked like he worked really hard this time to rise above mediocrity, regardless of whether he achieved it or not.
I like Sweet P, but I thought her dress last night was kinda lame.
i'm still wondering how they equate "iconic" & "mass-marketable". i agree that the challenge was unfair as they clearly chose the most mass-producable piece for the win.
i actually thought that jillian's coat was uglier than victorya's, although i'm quite happy to see ya-ya go home. neither were on their game in this episode. glad to see that jillian is still alive. i want to see her at fashion week.
I can't say I LOVE denim in anything but jeans, but whatever - Ricky's dress was all right, for what it was. I liked Christian's better (what the heck is more Levi's than a pair of freaking jeans?) but - Christian (who I adore) has made the same outfit about three times now. Even Rami, when not draping, seems to just pleat.
I just want to see the designers make something beautiful. something where I just go: damn, that is gorgeous!
also: WHEN did they say the design had to be marketable to a range of sizes? When Ms Levi's announced they'd sell Ricky's dress was the first *I* remember hearing of that prize.
I am so uninspired by these designers! Everything seems sort of...same-y and specific - Christian designs for a female version of himself. VYA designs for a sack of potatoes. Jillian designs for herself. Rami designs for some drapey, crepey old women. Chris designs for drag queens. Ricky makes ugly lingerie-esque babydoll dresses.
I WANT NEW AND DIFFERENT!
and I haven't seen much this season where I think: "god, I'd love to have the money/figure to wear that" (which I HAVE thought about designs from past seasons).
Oh, and Amy Winehouse, style icon? oh please. girl's got great pipes and a boatload of issues, but damn are her clothes ugly. Ratty-ass jeans, old tanktop and flats is NOT style.
I'm happy for Ricky. Glad he finally won something.
WTF with all this people laughing at the "retarded" joke?!
Do you guys are THAT clueless of how offensive this is?!
I meant " Are you guys THAT clueless..."
I'm so baffled I typed it wrong.
Can you please pretty please show a pic of Jillians flamenco - like skirt (black & white)? I absolutely loved it!!!!!! she was wearing it in the 'denim' episode.
Thank you - btw I loooooooooove your blog.
Patrick said...
Chris March, because nobody loves the Big Non-Threatening Fat Desexed Gay Guy like Bravo does.
Patrick, I think you need some therapy.
News flash; just because someone is heavy it doesn't mean they don't have sex and it doesn't mean that they aren't considered sexy by people who don't share your narrow, prejudiced views.
TLo - please consider removing the original post.
Snorting on the captions..even Christian's MODEL looks pissed! (I do think he was the clear winner last night though, immunity or not but I guess I already said that at least twice).
With that being said, my soft heart was glad Ricky got the win. :dodging rotten tomatoes:
As a "Big Non-Threatening Fat Desexed Gay Guy" myself, I take no offense at Patrick's comment. I think he meant it more in the sense that TV always portrays heavy people as sexless, whether we are or not. This is just a fact of life. I don't expect to see a major romantic film starring someone over 300 pounds anytime soon. It's a pity, because it would be far more interesting than the standard cookie cutter crap we are fed by Hollywood, but I'm not going to let that cluelessness get me down.
kana said...
If that's a button fly i'd like to meet the man who needs a crotch that long in his jeans.
3:07 PM
oh Kana, darling. I have met him (in every way) and {{{{shiver}}}}} will never forget him. Sigh.
The screaming from my apartment was heard, I'd guess, from Battery Park to, I don't know, probably the GW bridge. Okay, so that's a slight exaggeration, but my exasperation was at such a high level, I think I *could* have yelled that loudly.
(Yeah, it's possible that I take this show a little too seriously.)
"Clearance rack at Bebe" is too complimentary. I was thinking Forever 21. Boring, tacky, cheap-looking...well, you get the point.
I thought that Rami's dress was adorable, and was impressed by Christian's work as well. I hate to do an armchair analysis of the judges and producers' motivations (oh, who am I kidding, I love to do that), but I strongly suspect that someone thought that another win for Christian or Rami would be too predictable and would bore the audience. Because it's so much better to disgust us instead, I guess.
Argh.
If Ricky's win was about mass-marketing and making it easier on them, then they could have gone for Sweet P's as another option, no? Whats so complicated about her dress? It was on many different levels above Ricky's.
I thought Sweet P's dress was the LBD look Chris was going for.
My cousin and I watched this episode together last night, and our best comparison to Ricky's outfit was "Forever 21," or clearance rack at Ross. It's just that tacky looking. If Levi's wants to be tacky/trashy, well, that's there prerogative. But me? I want Sweet P's dress, or the jacket from Christian's ensemble.
Sweet P's was much better than his.
Styling wise, at the risk of dating myself, I was actually thinking more Tammy Wynette...goes with the denim dress, too.
It's Bubba-licious !!
So, to quote Ray Romano as "Ray Barone:" "Hell is up, heaven is down, it's raining monkeys and wood is a drink." Is that where we are in the cosmos now?
I'm not even sure crack could provide this high. But of course the win made Ricky cry.
Yes, to all of the above since last night, guys. I am only slightly less aggravated by Ricky's win by the fact that Sissybear remains. And, guys, my thoughts exactly, why were they dragged out to a warehouse to grab jeans off a clothesline, I mean if it were a commodity they had to get in that kind of location, it would be fun, like last season's garbage challenge, but wtf? Oh, well, thank you boys for your lone voices of sanity. Oh, and I hope Tim isn't bullshitting, I don't think he is. (please, God)
Stubenville, don't do that -- try to silence someone you don't agree with.
This could have been a very good challenge--if Caroline Calvin had actually given the REAL criteria for winning.
Instead of the vague claptrap she gave as the challenge, what if she had said the following: "Create an appealing, fashion-forward outfit that still reflects the Levis/501 branding. At our discretion, the winning outfit may be featured as a limited design for sale to the public sometime within the next six months."
If she had only mentioned marketing the winning outfit in a fairly short amount of time, think how that might have affected everyone's design strategy.
Rami, an experienced designer, would probably have thought about creating an outfit that was less complex. (And if he didn't, then he would have rightly deserved to lose the challenge for not sizing up the customer's needs properly.)
Maybe Sweet P, who created that lovely little dress, would have thought a little more about the need to sneak a bit of branding into her garment.
As it was, the real criteria for the win were withheld until it was too late, IMHO.
Does anyone here really think that all of the judges agreed on Ricky's dress for the win?
Personally, I think exactly one judge voted for Ricky's dress. Unfortunately, that seemed to be the one judge whose opinion really counted: Ms. Calvin, whose agenda would seem to be quite different from what I thought PR was supposed to be about.
JMO YMMV
My feeling is that if Levi's was going to sell it on their website (or wherever - i missed the first part of the show last nite), maybe this was the easiest look to replicate. I don't think they'd want to do that Princess Puffisleeves look.
Just my guess - because this didn't deserve to win.
I'm sorry, did Levi's aesthetic become, tacky and teenybopper whore and I missed it?
It looked like something that just needs an alcohol monitoting anklet as the perfect accessory
Rami's dress was SO Jeffrey, Christian's was same ole same ole on the jacket, though the jeans were interesting. They are setting up "whiping boy Ricky" for Aufing
stubenville said:
News flash; just because someone is heavy it doesn't mean they don't have sex and it doesn't mean that they aren't considered sexy by people who don't share your narrow, prejudiced views.
TLo - please consider removing the original post.
I don't care about the original post and whether or not it's removed, but WORD on the sentiment above it. I find Chris very sexy, and I doubt if I'm the only one. I bet he gets plenty of sex when he wants it.
Although, I don't suppose he cares what I think.
Anne
But I looked at the dress on the Levis website and it seemed to me that it looked better somehow. The stretch material probably helped a lot but they seemed to have made some subtle changes in the styling too.
Anne
amen. i thought ricky's outfit was really trampy. but, i'm more happy about the auf'ing of the night!
Hi all,
...not that the designers could have done anything about it, but I find it highly deceptive of the producers (?, whomever) to have tossed in "and Levis will market a limited edition of your design" after the runway was said and done.
As someone before me mentioned, the designers would have modified their garments for mass-market, with the possible exception of Christian, whom I believe would have pleated, ruffled and puff-sleeved himself into the sunset no matter what the criteria is.
I think Ricky delivered a low-rent cocktail dress...and apparently that's just what the guest judge was looking for. However, he did use the iconic button-fly with deliberate-effect.
meh...the Rick-ster's had his day in the sun. The Patron-Saint of Push-Up Bras will be smooching him "tata" soon.
Did anyone else LOVE that Heidi asked "What's up with you?" when Ricky started crying?
Uhhhh... yes!
That german, cut-the-bullshit, tough guy attitude of hers is always awesome, when it rears it's head.
She's outspoken, kinda mean, and doesn't really care what anyone thinks.... that's why we love The Bod!
Alex (LOVE your cartoons- you tha' shiznit) ...did you notice in this last episode, Heidi's left breast was clearly yearning to break away and "run free with wild abandon"
I'm a straight-chick and I couldn't keep help but notice.
Rami, with his left-boob-obscuration-fetish must have been beside himself. (HA!)
cheers!
I said it in an earlier post, I walked by this shit in 1995 at The Buckle because it was too tacky.
Now that they've thrown Ricky a bone to justify their inept decision to keep him around too long, does this mean he can FINALLY leave??? Next week, Ricky is AUF'ed!! *crosses fingers*
I love that picture of Ricky tearing up on the runway because I swear his model looks like she's laughing. Like she's truly loving the moment!
BrianB
My earlier comment didn't come through.
Ricky won that challenge because he included the 501 buttonfly. That's the only reason.
SweetP's dress was great, but the girl can't dress herself. Did you all see that shorts outfit she wore on the runway? I had to sterilize my eyeballs....
It's Spanish Harlem. Period. And tacky. My jaw dropped at the win.
Best of the night, in terms of wearability/interest was Sweet Pea, most "inventive" was probably Christian.
The Duchess pronouncing his love for Amy Winehouse just about did me in. That and his "with the right shoes" comment.
Oy vey.
Definitely not the BEST design, but certainly not the worst.
Guess this is the way judges let poor Ricky feel good about himself before he's royally auf'd.
"Heidi's Left Breast said..."
ROFL....thanks for that, best laugh I've had all day. :)
I dont get it!
Cause I actually thought this was a great dress. A winning dress? Probably not. But you guys are a little hard on him.
It could have been worse!
Just some random observations...
Wasn't it too funny that Ricky started crying before he even won the challenge? A few kind words from the judges and here come the waterworks. He really does just have to go!
But in his defense, if that dress is hoochie mama, hooker etc, please let me assure you that the clothing regularly worn by the high school/college set would be considered, uh, I don't know...what's worse than hoochie mama, hooker, trailer park trash blah blah blah. Honestly, the hemline was down right conservative by today's fashion. Let's all just be grateful it wasn't up to her crotch and let it go. And the tailoring was superb. That's a lot of the reason he got the win I think. Besides needing him to win before they "Auf" him, they knew that getting that fit in non-stretch is virtually impossible. High fashion? Nah! Gap? Definitely. But $168???? Not in this lifetime!
And Nina's hair.. that wasn't sexy wind blown. It was, I'm not sure what it was. It just looked terrible.
Christian, same old same old although I will give him that using the jacket sleeves for the jean bottoms was inspired. But that jacket! Geez, can't he come up with something different?
Kit again changing visions (thankfully) halfway through. And once again looking confused when they said something nice to her. At least she doesn't cry....
OK, I'm done now....
Ricky is such a sad sack & charity case.
Can someone please explain to me why everyone's creaming themselves so hard about Christian's jeans here? They make the model's hips look like a billboard and her thighs look like ham hanks, and combining the cut of the jacket and the godawful styling with that belt gave her the suggestion of a pot belly.
I'm not trying to be snarky here, I'm totally serious. Can someone explain it to me? Yes, it's an interesting art piece, sure, but something that makes a model look that heavy and hippy is seriously not going to look good on anybody else. I don't understand all the people who are saying they'd buy his outfit in a second.
I'm with the people annoyed that Tim's getting heavily edited and/or ignored...it just reminds me of how he said they didn't want him to do a blog this time. What's up with that? Does PR hate Tim now? (Or that he calls them out on their shit, maybe...)
And yeah, this was kind of a Wendy Pepper moment. Except for the part where Wendy Pepper made for interesting TV. Ricky crying all the time and trying on hats doesn't cut it. Although most of the outfits were seriously boring--I'm guessing time factored into nobody coming up with anything really new. (I'm imagining a Kara Saun creation...)
I like the dress. I wouldn't wear it, but I know girls who would (and yes, that would be mostly Junior dept shoppers). What full grown women wear all denim anyway?
bigassbelle said: "she's upholding a tradition of tragic female star messdom a la marilyn..."
No. Marilyn was a mess, but she was a classy mess, and as far as I know there are no pictures of her snorting coke and wandering around shirtless. Also, she had teeth.
Hi Cranky! I concur, the decision was whack, but considering the challenge was basically to create an outfit to sell on levis.com, it makes sense. Ricky's was the best-branded outfit. Keep the faith, Cranky. Looks like a double elimination in 2 weeks!
Doesn't Chris March remind you of "Mickey", Valerie Cherish's stylist on "The Comeback"?
Loved Mickey. Love Chris too.
It has Target written all over it.
I'm happy for Ricky. Go Ricky!!
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