"Every one of the gay guys in the room was freaking out...being the only straight guy, I was like, whatever."
Dude, are you going to mention that EVERY WEEK? We GET IT. You're a big manly man clothing designer.
Although you wouldn't know it from this piece. Not the most masculine look in the world, is it?
Others have rolled their eyes and smirked at his constant declarations of heterosexuality and we're here to tell y'all: he's straight. He really is. Trust us, we have superb gaydar.
Eye candy!
To be honest, we kinda sympathize. Being a straight man in what is, in many ways, a gay man's world is pretty much exactly what most gay people go through, only in reverse. So, wave that unrainbow flag proudly, Kevin! Start your own Pride parade! You are straight AND you design clothes and you don't care who knows it! Huzzah!
As for the look, Lorenzo liked it; Tom only sort of liked it.
Big props need to be paid simply because it was for the most part, well-tailored. In a week when so many hot messes rolled down that runway, that should be lauded.
And big props also need to be paid for following the client's dictates. Tiki said he liked conservative looks with splashes of color and this definitely fits the bill. Heidi was dead-on when she said it looked like something David Beckham would wear, but given what Tiki asked for, that's not really a criticism.
The only real criticism we have is that the look is a little young, a little too "Backstreet Boy" for Tiki Barber.
Ricky honey, we nailed it. We said that once the judges hung the "boring" label on you, it would be near-impossible to shake it.
Was this boring? Sure. A little. Any less boring than Jack's winning design? Not on your life, which just goes to show how arbitrary and personality-based the judges' decisions can sometimes be.
Yes, the execution was a disaster, but his real mistake was in going for such an ambitious design in the first place. We didn't realize he lined that jacket until we watched it a third or 4th time. Beautiful lining too.
Just look at that. Girl, that was way too much to do in two days. He was going to do a VEST too? He should have gone with the vest and skipped the jacket, then.
He might have avoided this if he'd done so.
He also might have avoided this:
"Amorcito Mio, what the fuck. I'm falling asleep just looking at it. Why? Why did you make something that makes me fall asleep?"
"B-but it was for the Today Show. *snf*"
"Oh is THAT your excuse? Ha. And I suppose you stuck pins in it because it was the Today Show too?"
"I - I'm..."
"Don't you cry on my runway, chico."
They gave him way too much shit for what was a good, basic design that was appropriate for the client. Yeah, it was boring and yeah, it wasn't finished. In that regard, Ricky can just get in line with all the other designers who had the same problems. Kevin's vest was pinned together and the judge's just laughed about it.
Oh Tim, we think you were talking out your ass a little when you said this was the greatest group of designers inthe history of the world (or whatever it was you said), but you were dead-on when you said the judge's were going to really piss us off this season. Frankly, we're starting to suspect they're just playing to the cameras.
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I like your version of NINA far better than the one on the show.
Tim saying these designers are the best so far is redundant, especially if you realize many of them auditioned for previous seasons and didn't amke it.
What? they were saving them all for one banging season to come later?
You Steven lovers, refer to the the casting episode for season #..there is our boy talking about different places his magic happens. He made it all the way to the final cut but didn't make it onto the show.
pfft..
"Don't you cry on my runway, chico."
HA! Can always count on you boys to perk up my Mondays.
Kevin and the gay thing - shut up. So tired of his declarations. And he styled it a little too Backstreet Boy because he dresses like a Backstreet Boy - a middle aged one, but one nonetheless.
Ricky - I caught the lining the first time around and loved it. His was no better or worse than most others and I felt the judges singled him out unfairly. You guys are right on with what you said about it.
Sorry typo's
Steven is on the first show of season 3.
they show a clip from his meeting Tim and his audition video
"B-But it was for the Today Show *snif*"
OMG I cannot stop cracking up at that line!! Classic Ricky!!
Honestly, I saw Ricky's entry and thought "well you got to give him props for ambition" I mean Jack's was as simple and basic as you can get with a dash of color. I always thought the outfit would look better with a jacket. And when I saw that Ricky's was one of the only ones with a jacket, I thought "oh, maybe they'll light up on him this week" But not so.
And I agree with you completely. I'm pretty much just not gonna watch the show anymore. These designers are completely uninteresting, the challenges aren't inspiring, the judges just seem to be on constant PMS, it just doesn't seem worth it anymore. You know it's bad when Tim Gunn starts to say "Make it work!" and "Carry on!" because he's expected to say it, there's no sincerity or fun in it anymore
Kevin's is not as well tailored as I first thought--it's a little tight around the shoulders. But he was gonna make a jacket to cover that up, oops! No time! The styling only adds to the messy.
It seems like anyone that could manage to get their outfit in the neighborhood of fitting got a pass. Ricky's was just not done and didn't fit his awesomely hot model.
I think the main problem lies in the challenge itself. How realistic is it to ask someone to be creative in a medium they are not accustomed to?
VanGogh is a wonderful painter. If he made a sculpture that looked like total unoriginal ass, it would not take away from the beauty of his painting.
A lot of the designers this week were so focused on making something presentable so that Nina did not murder them on the runway that creativity and vision almost became a secondary goal.
That being said I think the designers got a little too in their whiny mode this week. They are not the first designers on this show to have to design menswear. They probably won't be the last.
Mmm, yeah, Kevin could be the Second Coming of YSL and I still wouldn't like him. I hate to write someone off just because I cannot stand their personality, but...oh wait a second, yes I do!
As for Ricky, blah, blah, blah. The sooner these two boys are off my screen, the sooner I might start feeling more invested in this season. I really hope they're saving the good stuff for all the episodes left, starting this Wednesday.
The thing about Kevin's comments: we don't know that he wasn't responding to one of the producers asking something asinine, pointed and baiting, like 'how were the gay designers responding to the male models and how did you respond?' Not that a such a question is an excuse for a dumbass response like Kevin's, but still. Let's be savvy viewers; reality tv editing/casting can be a bitch.
Boy, that Ricky. Weeping one minute and then being an a**hole in the workroom the next (bitchy to Carmen, telling his model not to speak). He's like a one-man show of "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?"
-- CAAF
Whenever there's some issue that a reality show contestant brings up constantly to the point that we get sick of hearing about it--like Kevin and his straightness--I always suspect that they've been goaded into talking about it by the producers.
Yes, Ricky's lining was nice.
i'm just hoping this week's episode is better enough to reel me in.
k.
Pobrecito Lil Ricky!
Carmen says he's a bitch, but he sort of tugs on my heart strings.
I forget, is Little Ricky fighting for the Union or the Confederacy? Honestly, ditch the headgear.
And for Straight-Kevin? It would be far more believable if he didn't exaggerate the manscaped beard.
This episode was so very very strange.
Kevin gets points for putting together something that looks a little bit more, well, put together.
I really don't care about the "I'm not gay" quap, or even the overly styled facial hair, but I do object to the fact that said facial hair has been dyed black.
I find it off-putting when a *straight* man so obviously spends more time in front of a mirror than I do...
Li'l Ricky's ensemble was indifferent, too... I'm sooo glad that you captured his "I'm gonna cut you, bitch" facial expression, too: forget the crocodile tears, he looks like he could be a vindictive little back stabbing snake.
I liked Kevin's, but I agree that it was a bit too young for Tiki.
Oh c'mon, Kevin probably only said it 150 times.
It's the producers' fault! They are using every single one of those times he said it.
They probably asked him if his dog was straight and he said "being a straight dog..." and then they edited it.
I showed this post to somebody at work and their first reaction was, "Does Kevin's model have a boner?!"
LOL.
" macasism said...
Kevin's is not as well tailored as I first thought--it's a little tight around the shoulders."
I thought the whole outfit looked too tight on the model, well, except the pants - quite the opposite - way too loose.
They're supposed to reward ambition over execution, and do sometimes. But not this time. On ambition Ricky wins for the AWESOME jacket lining alone. I'm a stone sucker for a beautiful jacket lining. That's what menswear is all about to me.
So he didn't get to all his stitches, and used pins? Big deal. The judges are FUNDAMENTALLY DISHONEST PEOPLE.
Kevin appears to have sewn his sleeves on the wrong arms. The cuffs open on the top instead of the bottom, which is just freakish and weird.
How come nobody has commented on how un-PC it is for Ricky to wear a confederate soldier cap?
I agree that the constant parading of straigtness on behalf of Kevin is likely due to questions by the producers during his "interview time." It may also be the case that in a field where many of his same sex peers are also interested in the same sex, he may talk about it more, who knows. Anything that someone says on a show could have been said about something completely different. Now he may be over-compensating, but who really knows, what we see is most certainly edited (but at the same point must have been uttered at some point in time)
As for the clothes, the fact that Ricky had three pieces that looked passable should have made him immune from the bottom three. People commenting that it is difficult to be innovative with an unfamiliar medium are absolutely correct. If you don't know what you are doing completely, you stick to what you know. Other people who didn't accomplish as much should have been ranked lower.
As far as Kevin's design, I liked it a lot. As you say, it seemed appropriate, well put together, and also had a little flair. I thought this look should have won, but then, I am not a judge, unfortunately!
If you read nina's blog, she didn't like jack's look much either. She said it was boring as well.
So her criticism of Ricky's look was not inconsistent.
The challenge was pretty dumb because they seemed to only care about well tailored looks. For that, Jack did a better job and was rewarded for it.
A black suit with a white shirt on the Today Show seemed like a wrong decision. There needed to be some color. The lining is nice, but no one is going to see that.
I totally believe Kevin is straight, I just don't believe he's only thirty.
I would have picked his design for the win, if only because it was the only 3 piece design Tiki seemed to really like. He would have looked smashing in those colors, and who cares about the tailoring since the outfit was going to be remade anyway.
You all make it sound like dressing like a Backstreet Boy is a bad thing.
I thought Ricky's lining WAS the front of a vest when he was making it. That stripe would've blown Tiki away in a color frenzy.
Pins, schmins. Kevin's and Ricky's looks were still better than Jack's.
"AJ Brian Howie Kevin & Nick said...
You all make it sound like dressing like a Backstreet Boy is a bad thing."
If you're over 25, yes it is. Context, my dear. Let's focus here!
" madam ovary said...
He would have looked smashing in those colors, and who cares about the tailoring since the outfit was going to be remade anyway."
Very good point; I was about to say the same thing. The judges spend too much time talking about how "poorly made" something is - this is a show about fashion designers not seamstresses.
I first read "unirainbow" as "unibrow," which in Kevin's case might actually be even more apropos.
LOVE NINAGARCIA, Gayboy v.1
xo
Tiki doesn't wear a lot of vests, he likes colors but he wouldn't wear that purple shirt, he's conservative but he's open to new ideas...WTF??? Seriously!! Just send this man to JCPenney's and call it a day.
Sarah, Tiki's actually younger than three of the BSBs (and two of the three are still performing).
And I was kidding about it not being a bad thing. :)
(OK, I'll focus now. . . .)
I liked Kevin's design-not wild about the shirt showing below the vest, but liked his use of color.
I'm not believing that this is the most talented group of designers - in three challenges I haven't seen many "wow" outfits.
There's always hope for the next episode!
Agree with you guys completely. I too think this isn't turning out to be the best group of designers yet. But this challenge didn't help, as menswear isn't their gig (except for Jack who won), they didn't get much time, and the Today Show/Tiki Barber connection didn't spark much creativity.
And I was surprised about Tiki's not willing to wear purple. He said he wears pink so what's the big problem with purple?
Maybe it's just me but I feel much less plugged in to this PR season. I really miss Tim's blog and podcast. No one else is in the workroom and at the judging, and finding out what Tim thought and observed gave me a much deeper appreciation for the show.
I wonder if the lack of Tim input is due to his change in career or whether it is the Weinsteins' payback for Tim becoming the biggest star of the show, the negotiation of Tim's one-year contract, and/or the flap over Tim's own show. Tim alluded to not wanting the PR producers to claim ownership of his show so they made no mention of PR and deliberately chose someone other than the Magical Elves to produce. That last decision is particularly unfortunate because the Top Design producers really aren't of the same caliber. So Tim's show suffered and now PR is too. Bummer.
Kevin's outfit should have won. It was the best look with a splash of color.
I miss Tim's Take sooo much
I think that in a way, they're pandering to the designers this season because they're all "established" and have their own lines.
In previous seasons it was like, "Hey, you're my bitch and if I tell you to make a cocktail party dress out of camel dung then you start shoveling in the Metamucil."
This time they're not going so much for that, they're trying to take it to the next level.
With, if I may say so, not much success.
Anne
Kevin's look is basically a shittier version of the one that Chloe made for Nick in Season 2. Did the designers in Season 2 have more time to work in the makeover challenge, or were Kara and Chloe just that much better than everyone in Season 4?
I call BS on the whole challenge. I watch this show for the creativity. It's NOT Project Tailor!
I liked the colors and textures of Kevin's outfit, but the shirt fit is for shit, way too tight and short. I think it isn't a sewing problem, but a pattern making problem. I agree with snaf, something is bad wrong with the sleeve cuff, what ever he was trying to do didn't work. Also that stick pin holding the vest closed looks sloppy.
To me Ricky's sewing and pattern making skills look superior. To bad he didn't have more time. Someone needs to tell him about stitch witchery. Did anybody notice on Ricky's sketch he has the front closing right over left?
Ricky is 3 for 3!! (in the cryiing per episode dept) We poured poured the tequila as soon as he was not told he could leave the runway. And if you're gonna pin shit together (something tells me that was NOT a Project Runway first) at least do it in a way that the pins won't be all sparkly in the lights during the runway show!!
Kevins design? Didn't he actually finish the most pieces? Points for that, no?
Kevin reminds me of someone on Shear Genious (both in appearance and declaration of sexual orientation)but I can't remember who it was.
I love Kevin's outfit. I thought it looked young, innovative and trendy. Too bad Tiki decided to go with something boring and safe. I have a major problem with guests choosing the winner. I understand they have the right to, after all, they're designing for them, but most of these people wouldn't be able to pick their underwear without the help of their stylist.
" Anonymous said...
Kevin reminds me of someone on Shear Genious (both in appearance and declaration of sexual orientation)but I can't remember who it was."
DR. BOOGIE!!!!!
Hi All,
Here is a note of caution to you all:
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There's been 'rotten tomato', 'not gotham tomato', and now today, this nitwit (with too much time on their hands and the intention to cause anymosity),
signed up for a google ID using an even closer variation:
'gotham tomato'. (note the space)
Please note the difference: MY ID has no space in it. It is just 'gothamtomato'.
The imposter's name is 'gotham tomato' with a space.
Please be warned that no other variations of my name are me. This jerk is just trying to cause problems. (He should have named himself 'angry little peanut'.)
--GothamTomato
"So, wave that unrainbow flag proudly, Kevin! Start your own Pride parade!"
Wouldn't that just be the St. Patrick's Day Parade?
They have no dancing cowboys.
--GothamTomato
Rebel yell!!!
I didn't realize there was a pinstripe going on there. And, did the judges even see the lining?
It's ridiculous (in this case) to focus so much on (quoting TB) "I couldn't wear that. I'd look like a fool". Well -- duh! -- nobody expects that the winning design is goin' straight on the guy. Geez.
I'm not a Ricky fan, but I agree with you here that the judges just don't like the guy.
-- desertwind
PS - The hair/makeup on Kevin's (and all the guys) was bizarre. What's up with the stylists this season?
Ricky's lining is Sweet Pea's tie. She should have given it to Ricky to use, there was no saving either of them. I believe Ricky only lined that one side of the jacket that his model "flashs like he's packin" ..but then he would have exposed the hidden pins, next time use tape!
On one hand you have str8 Kevin and on the other you have crying Ricky. I could do without both. Both of the outfit's were TIRED.
Ricky's was tired and ill-fitting and Kevin's was simply tired. Tired as his rhetoric about being straight. Who cares if he is straight? I don't. Obviously he does and is self-conscious about it. I'm sure he gets called a fag all the time. I would call him that, and I am gay.
Ricky just kills me with her crying. You would think that she just found out Judy Garland was dead. Get over it girl and quit your whining and crying.
Gotham, that is horrible that some a$$wipe is trying to pose as you. Not that he has a chance of being as witty.
What is wrong with people anyway?
At least Kevin used some color. And it was a finished look. Tiki would have looked great in those colors.
Waterworks, Ricky, seems to be in the Robert spot this season. He's going to have to do something insane to shake that boring tag. He could have helped himself by taking a page out of Santino & Jeffrey's book and used glue instead of pins. But to hear the client say that he's not afraid of color, then design him something that's b&w, or grey&white (hard to tell on my TV), wasn't the way to go.
But I have to say, when I read your Nina dialogue, I didn't hear Nina's voice. I heard the voice of Maria Sharipova's dog.
--GothamTomato
People keep forgetting that the S2 designers had their models there throughout the sewing & designing. It's much easier to fit someone when you can refer to them at will.
OTOH, as Uncle Nick pointed out, they actually had male forms this year, and, presumably, their models' measurements. Many of them had no trouble turning out something that fit.
This judging pissed me off for a variety of reasons.
First, Tiki claims he likes splashes of color and then says he'd switch out the shirt. So...he doesn't really like color. Then Heidi frowns and is all "Seal would never wear that" as if that's a legitimate reason to not like the look. Well guess what, Heidi? He didn't design it for Seal, so it's a moot point, eh?
Secondly, the said Ricky's black and white suit was too boring for Tiki to wear on TV and yet, what was Tiki wearing on TV? A black and white suit. Idiots.
Don't you cry on my runway, chico."
This may be my new favorite line of all time. I'm stealing it. (I have some very whiny clients who are definitely going to hear this.)
As for Kevin, if he wants us to think he's straight, why does he make a lavender shirt!?
Having once before been a victim elsewhere on the 'Net of someone pretending to be me, you've moved me to register my display name here, gothamtomato. That really sucks about your cyberstalker. I've noticed that this season of PR and the PR Canada blogs have definitely attracted some rather unpleasant new posters.
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"Frankly, we're starting to suspect they're just playing to the cameras."
You nailed that one right on the head. I was wondering if the judges are simply being provocative, and it's getting tiresome. But then again, the designs so far have been tiresome. Or at least tired.
Loved the Ricky/Nina screen caps!!!
I agree about this crop of designers, I'm completely underwhelmed by almost everything I see on every episode. Compared to S3, when I was "wowed" right out of the gate with Michael's coffee filter dress, this season looks like it might blow!
(or maybe I'm just bitter about the itunes and podcasts)
Did anybody notice on Ricky's sketch he has the front closing right over left?
I noticed that too. He also sketched a bow tie for Tiki. I wonder how that would have played.
This challenge was a dissapointment. Granted, they were very constrained by the dictates of the client, but all I saw was a sea of bland to downwright FUG. Ricky's was far from the worst, at least his model had a shirt - a shirt with a normal neck, sleeve and collar.
As much as I like some of this season's designers, I can't help but feel they'd couldn't compete if they were up against Jay, Kara Saun, Chloe, Laura or any number of other past contestants.
is it just me or were the sleeves on kevin's shirt so tight, it made the outfit almost... slutty?
and they need to stop picking on ricky. sure it's a joy when he bursts into tears, but i don't see how his sloppy 3 pieces were any worse than sweet p's sloppy 2 1/2. at least ricky's designs were a closer representation of actual clothing. maybe they would have given him extra points if he glued in the lining instead of pinning it.
"Don't you cry on my runway, Chico"
Truly hysterical!!! I want to be NINAGARCIA when I grow up!
fnarf said:
"Kevin appears to have sewn his sleeves on the wrong arms. The cuffs open on the top instead of the bottom, which is just freakish and weird."
Thank you for catching that too! I kept looking back at the screencap and trying to figure out why you would sew the cuff openings to the inside??
I think that part of the reason why Kevin's outfit didn't look manly manly was because it was trotted down the runway on the back of a butch 17-year-old girl. Seriously, that model looks just like the lead in "Just One of the Guys," that bad 80s movie about cross-dressing to get ahead.
I have to agree - I completely forgot about Jillian's suit, it was incredible. Hard to be surprised since she designs for Ralph Lauren but the sewing was fabulous.
Am wondering what is with the judging this season......let's see how this week's ep turns out shall we?? =)
Your version of Nina is hysterical - and yes, Ricky did cry on her runway. Ha!
I can't believe Ricky is 3 for 3 with the crying!!! Can he sustain it in the episodes to come?
We can only hope.
steve (1:33 p.m.) , said, "How come nobody has commented on how un-PC it is for Ricky to wear a confederate soldier cap?"
Probably because he's not wearing a confederate soldier cap. It's hard to tell the color, but it looks closer to navy than gray. It's more like a Union soldier's cap.
Has anyone mentioned - is Nina channeling her "inner chiquita" this season? I don't remember the "hola" as a greeting in previous seasons.
Kevin's shirt was too short. Period, end of story, that shit ain't gonna stay tucked in.
And our Ricky boy needs to stop sniveling. Or get some Xanax.
I will be crying with Ricky if this weeks show isn't any better than last. I thought the last two shows were snoozers.
Oh dear, Ricky's model is so freakin' cute...
and I like the lining on the jacket.
Kevin's model is so hot, Ricky's model is butt ugly. Kevin's outfit is very gay. Ms Ricky's outfit looks like something donated to charity.
Dahling, Tim Gunn seems terribly faraway, doesn't he? As if he's dreaming of greater things to come. His scenes on PR seem like those oh-so-short scenes on soap operas where an actor walks in, says one line, close-up, cut. Except that Tim isn't even trying to act interested.
"These designers are the best so far"? Oh, dear, I feel a migraine coming on...you are the only reason I will make it through the rest of the season!
Rain Brain, I'm with you...I'm not feeling very "involved" with this season, either. I keep hoping it will get better...
I've been hoping the GayBoys would address the disappearance of Tim's podcast, and the (perceived or real?) reduction of "Tim Time".
Your speculation that the explanation revolves around the handling of Tim's show makes total sense...and I agree, it's a total shame because everyone loses.
- NonAnon
I really miss Tim's blog & podcast.
I wonder whether Tim's reduced time has in part to do with location. In past seasons he just had to pop down the hall from his office. Now he has to cab over from elsewhere in the city. And remember that he's now working three jobs and was promoting his book while shooting this season.
Also, his appearances this year seem to take place rather late at night. I know that the challenges in the past have gone until midnight or one, but has Tim always made his run through at 11 pm or so? He's probably exhausted after a long day of shooting his other show and dealing with the designers at LC.
As much as I love the Divine Tim Gunn, he, like other humans, occasionally needs some down time and even -- dare I say it? -- sleep.
Meh. I thought Kevin's look was too showy and too young for Tiki Barber. The mauve shirt alone blinded me.
As for Ricky, the judges were rather unfair to him. He should've been one of the ones who were sent out early, and a few of those should've been part of the best looks instead of two of the "real" best looks.
Are the judges on acid this year?
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