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Yea or Nay: Men's Skirt

Time to break out the Nair, boys.

H&M unveiled its Spring 2010 lookbooks and the men's line features skirts to go along with the blazers, harem pants, long scarves, and other forms of H&M male frippery.

H&M Spring 2010 Collection

Our response is a shrug and a "whatever makes your skirt fly up." It's never been our thing but if you're dying to show off your calves, have at it. What amuses us is that once a decade, someone tries to sell skirts to men and every time they act like they invented the idea. Admittedly, H&M is probably as far into the mainstream as the idea ever got, but we still don't see it expanding past the closets of fashionistas.

Comme des Garçons Fall 2009 Collection

Call us limited in our thinking if you like, but except for the occasional kilt, this has never been a look we've responded well to. It's just not our thing and despite the fevered efforts of others to make it so, it's never really going to a be a thing any time soon. But hey, have fun with it, we say. If you have a burning need to feel the subway breeze on your panties while you walk down the street, then you're just the boy for these looks.

Here's the rest of the H&M Spring 2010 lookbook for men, in case you want to do some virtual wardrobe boosting while you try and figure out your skirt size:










[Photos: style.com/hm.com]


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168 comments:

Call me old-fashioned, but to me they all look silly.


They don't look so hot. The pleated one is just terrible, terrible. Although, I actually wouldn't mind the breeze down there in summer :)


it would help if they didn't pick such ugly skirts...


is it sad that i want several items from the lookbook? (mostly the more traditional ones).


Oh, yeah. I know TONS of men who want to wear skirts.


Kilts, YES, and all that go along with 'em. Oh, TLo, you're making me remember a rather torrid night in the Scottish Highlands a little over 12 years ago, and the kilt was the igniter.

But these? Nuh-unh. What the Scots gots, these don't.

All the best,

NDC


100% of the men I know wouldn't wear this. I'm sure there are guys out there who would, but it won't sell, so why waste the fabric?


I don't want to see a man in a skirt unless he's a tranvestite. Love me a good tranny.


I was once having some tests run in a hospital and was sitting in a waiting room filled with people in hospital gowns and not much else and the problem with men and skirts became immediately apparent. Learn to keep your knees together, boys, or we will all get an eyeful of the family jewels.


I don't like the skirts, but I don't see anywhere how H&M is "acting like they invented the idea" of skirts on men. They wanted skirts, so they put them out there. It's strange that it bothers you so much.


Uh, yeah.

While backpacking on the Appalachian Trail, you'll meet guys in "skirts" like the ones H&M are pushing - light material, knee length. It's cooler for hiking long distances in. Of course the AT is not a fashionable place. The first day on the trail and you'll notice how bad the other hikers at the shelters smell. By the third day you don't notice anymore because - oh, that's me that smells like that.

Men in skirts stink. Literally and figuratively.


I think it's a cool idea. It won't catch on because of the gender expectations of our society, but I'd totally be down to wear a skirt if it wouldn't get me laughed out of town.


According to the Comme des Garcons images, one should pair these looks with a full-on treatment of eyeshadow, eyeliner and mascara.

edina


These are all pretty meh.

I like a good kilt, though, and the UtiliKilt can be hot.


In theory I have no problem with a skirt for men, but I'm not keen on the feminine fabrics of these ones, and what's with the leopard print ballet pumps?


Selling the concept of skirts for men is tricky to begin with--resistance to the idea is no doubt compounded when the skirts look like they should be worn by patchouli-scented chicks selling candles at the local Arte Faire.
None for me, thanks!
That said, loved all the pants! I'd wear the rest of the collection in a heartbeat.


I have nothing against men wearing skirts. I just don't see many men I know going for the look. However, I know a few guys who wear those Utili-Kilts and they always look great in them.

I am female and don't wear skirts all that often myself. I just find pants more comfortable, unless it is really hot out, then it is skirts and dresses all the way.


Men is skirts are so hot.
It use to be extremely popular club wear.
It looks best with traditional menswear elements like a single brested suit jacket, mens socks, and oxford shoes or lace up boots.
The fabrics best suited are tweed, suiting plaids, corduroy and heavy black knit.
Not sure about the silky tiered skirts shown here paired with the leopard flats. But I love the Stephen Jones style top hat one of the fellows is wearing.


Thanks but unless we're talking men in kilts, guys in skirts doesn't quite do it for me.


HOT! I wish my boyfriend would wear them : (


I love me some men in utilikilts (and got the husband one for xmas and mrow, he looks hawt) but flouncy skirts? Uh no.


I like the idea of men in skirts, I just wish that they would make them more stylish than the ones shown here... The pleated one at the top was nice, though.

My doubts about this catching on relate less to social expectations and more to the fact that skirts on anyone are about 97% less practical than pants. Also, one has to learn how to wear them (knees together while sitting etc).

The men I have seen in skirts have worn full length ones, it would be interesting to know if they'd like shorter ones too.


Unless you're Sean Connery or some other incredibly hot Scot, it's a big, fat NO!

Sean Connery...now I'm gonna have to go take a cold shower.

Ginger


Every couple of years, designers try to foist skirts on men's fashion, and a few faboo gay boys wear them to clubs and whatnot, but then the trend dies down again.

I think it would be a fine option for men's fashion, since there's very little revolutionary stuff out there, but our gender roles are so rigid even in the 21st century that I don't see it catching on anytime soon.


I'm not old fashioned, but I hate the idea. Skirts hide the best thing about men, their thighs.


Diane Keaton's statement by wearing men's clothing in the 80s was obvious. So what's the point of this? I say Nay.

BTW, I've never seen a man in a skirt at a club, unless he was on the stage, or it was Mardi Gras.


Two words, people.

Crotch.

Stank.

Skirts?! SKIRTS? You want to make it /easier/ for that smell to escape??

By all that's good and holy, seal that stuff up like Tutankhamen's tomb! It's like mummy rot all up in there!


It's a shame skirts aren't considered masculine. If men knew how comfortable they are they'd wear them all the time.


Jesus. Sounds like some of you are hanging out with some hygienically challenged men.


There were (and probably still are) lots of men in skirts at music festivals in New Orleans -- it's hot, hot, HOT, and it's a lot more comfortable in a skirt, male or female. That said, those guys usually wear long skirts, which somehow don't look silly. Long skirts or kilts. That's about it. These skirts? Stupid. It's just not something that's going to catch on outside of countries where men traditionally wear skirts (such as various Pacific islands).


I'm all for hot men in hot skirts, but it's true that pleats aren't really a great look for guys. Kilts work the best, really. Be interesting to see if this can take off in any sort of way.

-- Anun


nay period


After the nearly 100% irate reaction to Vivienne Westwood collection/presentation. This reminds me of that (that second pic, with the music grinder's monkey's hat??) it seems like a sign of mental illness to me.


I like men's skirts, think they're sexy. H&M is probably just using it more as a gimmick to get people to care about the new season's line of clothes and don't expect to sell many but, who knows. I am biased, having had some uncles that rock kilts. As for Men's little hats that sit on the side of your head (pic. #1) that's a nay for me.
ps
Looks like they were feeling/steeling the Dolce and Gabanna 2010 line huh?


That reminds me of those old high school standardized exams: "Hygenically Challenged" is to "Man" as:

A) "Wet" is to "Water"
B) "Spotted" is to "Leopard"
C) "Big" is to "Elephant"
D) "Bettie Page" is to "Kenley"

...and I say this with all the love of a mom who does laundry for a whole household of menfolk. :)

Still, there's a couple of those skirts that are stylish! The body types that could wear them are limited, but I guess you could say that about all fashion...


Lave a man in a kilt--even a great kilt. These, however, are a bit ruffly and frou frouy for my tastes.


Anything that reveals spindly pasty white Caucasian legs with black socks is a NO NO. And that goes for shorts too (I'm looking at you Dad).

Get out the tanner, ditch the socks, wear sandals or knee-high kilt stockings and then let's talk...


I don't expect them to catch on in a big way any time soon. But, you know, they only look so strange because men in western cultures have been (mostly) wearing pants for years, and with rare exception (kilts), skirts are associated with women. The reality is there are situations in which pants make a lot more sense, and situations in which skirts & dresses make a lot more sense, and wouldn't it be cool if we didn't associate skirts and dresses as exclusively feminine?


Anonymous said...

That reminds me of those old high school standardized exams: "Hygenically Challenged" is to "Man" as:

A) "Wet" is to "Water"
B) "Spotted" is to "Leopard"
C) "Big" is to "Elephant"
D) "Bettie Page" is to "Kenley"


I'm sorry to hear that you're surrounded by such disgusting people, but all men are not as dirty as the men in your life are. Thank god.


Ha, Paola, that made me think of my dad standing at his workbench in the garage, wearing a white v-neck undershirt tucked into a pair of gym shorts, black socks, and his slippers. Also, my dad never wears shorts outside of the house or garage, so those are some white, white legs. Hold that mental picture in your mind.

He's not stinky however.


I agree with those who love the Scots kilt.

I don't love this type of skirt on men, at least yet. It's actually dark socks and those silly shoes in the runway photos that are making me giggle. I'm getting such a Bermuda shorts sort of vibe from that styling. Doesn't matter what's going on on top, it's a big tee hee for me.

Thanks for the giggles from those discussing "crotch stank" - hilarious. I'm also thinking back to a horrible subway ride, long ago, across from a guy wearing short shorts, knees spread. He fell asleep and apparently dreamed and, well, it was a long subway ride and it was pretty gross.


Other than a kilt for a dinner party with QEII - skirts for men - OUT!

TampaBay


I have to agree with Anon 11:09 - don't the men in your lives bathe?

My man has a killer set of legs but the only skirt I'd like to see him in is a traditional kilt.


Some of the boys at school are already wearing them. The difference is that I see them wearing them over harem pants, so it just looks like a whole lot of fabric around their legs.


I prefer a man’s skirt to be made of a substantial fabric that hits at the knee.

These are a big Out!


I LOVE IT. But then, I'm all for gender fuckery.

A high school friend was a total badass and looked like he'd mess you up, but wore skirts all the time because he liked the freedom. Nobody said a word. ;)


I just know that crackhead Marc Jacobs is behind this somehow.


I'm a regular kilt-wearer, both tartan and contemporary. There are plenty of motivators for men to wear kilts and, I suppose, other skirts, dealing with issues of comfort, hygiene, ease-of-access and variegated wardrobe. It has to do with re-defining and enhancing masculinity and the male image.

None of these issues are being addressed by this stuff. The skirts they offer are delicate and impractical. They do not so much challenge the male identity as ignore it.

There are plenty of men who are ready to don skirts (judging by the success of Utilikilts and USAKilts, among others). But they will need compelling, practical reasons to do so. This sampling: not so compelling.

Oh, and for Anonymous
1/19/10 11:06 AM:
"Skirts?! SKIRTS? You want to make it /easier/ for that smell to escape??"

Brilliant. How nice that you have (probably) unwittingly offered a gender-neutral denunciation of skirts.


I don't care. If a guy has great legs, why not?

But I am reminded of a passage in Mary Renault's book, The Persian Boy, in which Alexander of Macedon, having conquered Persia, reacts with horror at the idea that he adopt that country's national dress - trousers.


Anonymous said...

Two words, people.

Crotch.

Stank.

Skirts?! SKIRTS? You want to make it /easier/ for that smell to escape??

By all that's good and holy, seal that stuff up like Tutankhamen's tomb! It's like mummy rot all up in there!


Far more women have "crotch stank" than men (inside parts vs. outside parts and the efficacy of cleaning them, after all) yet they still seem to manage wearing skirts just fine. Keep your sexist comments to yourself. There are just as many scurvy women as there are men in this world. Done and done.


"Far more women have "crotch stank" than men (inside parts vs. outside parts and the efficacy of cleaning them, after all) yet they still seem to manage wearing skirts just fine. Keep your sexist comments to yourself. There are just as many scurvy women as there are men in this world. Done and done."

Except, of course, that women have a ton of "feminine hygiene products" marketed to us on a daily basis. "Feeling not so fresh?" Here's something to buy. Smell like anything other than a field of flowers? Well, cover that stuff up, ladies. Can't be having that. I haven't seen any male products that address the same issues...

...Not the same Anon, btw, but just sayin'. If you want to talk about gendered-appearance expectations, you just can't compare.


I didn't think they look so bad, except for the pleated one. A little too Catholic school uniform-ish.

Cowlicks are in now? Did I miss the memo?


It'll never catch on. Would guys want to keep up with all the maintenance you have to do to wear a skirt? Don't think so.

But hey, if they want too, I say go for it. But get a better skirt than the one in the H&M ad, (which looks like it was stolen off a Catholic School girl).

--GothamTomato


I've seen skirt-type fashions for men that I did like - kilts or tunics, obviously, but a few more contemporary types. But the skirts in this spread don't do anything for me, and it doesn't help at all that all the models seem to have been crying! Were they made up that way on purpose? "Style them to look as if they've just been jeered in the lunchroom or beaten up on the playground!"


"Tlo said: If you have a burning need to feel the subway breeze on your panties while you walk down the street, then you're just the boy for these looks."




But just don't forget those panties.

--GothamTomato


A word of warning to the guys. One day it's skirts and the next it's shaving your legs and wearing pantyhose and heels to make your legs look better.


Anonymous said...

Except, of course, that women have a ton of "feminine hygiene products" marketed to us on a daily basis. "Feeling not so fresh?" Here's something to buy. Smell like anything other than a field of flowers? Well, cover that stuff up, ladies. Can't be having that. I haven't seen any male products that address the same issues...

...Not the same Anon, btw, but just sayin'. If you want to talk about gendered-appearance expectations, you just can't compare.


So...because women have unfair expectations put on them that makes it okay to turn around and claim that all men have crotch stink?

Not buying it.


Anonymous said...

"Far more women have "crotch stank" than men (inside parts vs. outside parts and the efficacy of cleaning them, after all) yet they still seem to manage wearing skirts just fine. Keep your sexist comments to yourself. There are just as many scurvy women as there are men in this world. Done and done."

Except, of course, that women have a ton of "feminine hygiene products" marketed to us on a daily basis. "Feeling not so fresh?" Here's something to buy. Smell like anything other than a field of flowers? Well, cover that stuff up, ladies. Can't be having that. I haven't seen any male products that address the same issues...

...Not the same Anon, btw, but just sayin'. If you want to talk about gendered-appearance expectations, you just can't compare.


You're right. There's a reason such products aren't marketed to men - because, as per my entire point, male parts don't smell nearly as rank nearly as fast because they are on the outside, and much easier to clean, and thus men do not need special hygenic products for their genitals. Go over 'em a little with soap and water in the shower and there you go - it's like washing your elbow or something. I know it was probably a joke, but it's ridiculous because "crotch stank" is really a female problem, not a male one. If you're guy doesn't wash his junk, well...sorry you mated with an ape. Most guys do.


They just don't do anything for the male form. Call me girlie but there's just something delicious about a man's lower regions, and what jeans or a nice pair of trousers will call attention to a fantastic butt or a great pair of thighs...a skirt hides all that pretty up. Besides, it looks messy, and we already KNOW they're messy...we want the illusion (at least over dinner) that they're NOT messy.


"I have to agree with Anon 11:09 - don't the men in your lives bathe?"

Oh honey, I'm the laundry-mom-anonymous. I'm a Midwesterner wife and mom of three teenage boys, so funky smells are pretty much par for the course in our household (one day I'll regale you of stories about the Fart Olympics). :)

I wouldn't trade any of it for the world, but every once in a while, a high-fashion escape is a treat. Thank you, TLo!


I stay strong on the opinion that on a pair of nice legs, a skirt is a fine thing. I don't think it should be revolutionary; just another fashion choice. Fond memories of an athlete in college who wore a guazy skirt around the dorm; looked fantastic.


I can sort of get behind the very first, pleated, kilty-sort of one. It would look good on a VERY limited number of guys with a certain look and style, but the rest of them are straight out of my closet circa 1995 when hippie-esque broomstick skirts were in. They wouldn't even look good on women.


The tangents these threads take never cease to amuse me.

--StinkyTomato


I agree with Anon 12:11 about getting used to the smells. I have a husband and 3 sons. You have the fart olympics, we are treated to the body gas symphony.
I can't even imagine my husband and sons going for the skirt look and my family is known for doing some crazy shit. Two of the boys are in a rock band and this might be where they draw the line. The other clothes are pretty nice though.


The skirts/dresses on men is already a fashion item. Just take a look at the www.peopleofwalmart.com site for some already fashionable men wearing skirts!


While I have much appreciation for handsome, rugged Scotsmen in proper kilts, I have to say NAY to these manskirts.
The shiny, satiny materials combined with the styling (are those really ballet flats?) just makes this whole look a little ridiculous. I just can't take it seriously.


What Not to Wear is showing an episode with a guy in a skirt right now.


He was trying to convince Stacy that they look good/normal - she was NOT buying it. Clinton joked that a man of his height needed his skirt to stop at the knees.

As to the other posts - he is bragging about eschewing underwear and he DOES LOOK dirty/smelly.


You're right, the idea keeps poping out since, what, the 70s? Very strongly in the 80s, but still, never caught on. I don't know why, I mean, men have been wearing skirts like forever, and the trouser is a very new thing...

But I don't think there has ever been such a mainstream outlet as H&M promoting this trend. Only two weeks ago I saw a guy in the metro sporting a skirt. Funny thing was, he didn't look the fashionista type at all. He looked rather the nerdy type, chubby, metal glasses, bad haircut, worn advertising orange t-shirt , computer bag and this taylored gray skirt. You almost didn't notice it, that he was wearing a skirt. Noone blinked an eye.


Sunday night on "60 Minutes" I watched a great story about Samoan Football players. I noticed that all the men & boys on the island regularly wore the tradtional "lava-lava" skirts, for both formal and casual occasions. And I thought that they not only looked comfortable, but darn cute and confident.

Maybe skirts for men are best worn in warm-weather climates, but I don't think they should be ruled out entirely. I think we have to change our western-paradigm.


Nope.


Not very warm in Scotland...


quigley (the cat)

One of the sexiest men I ever met was wearing a lava-lava. He was a tall blond Aussie working at a real tiki bar in American Samoa. It's normal and common for the native men all over Polynesia to wear them, and some of the more daring men of other cultures adopt this manner of dress. The weather is hot and sticky and it makes sense there.

I can accept them there, and in appropriate context, the Scottish kilt. As a matter of fact, my high school band in Florida wore a full-on kilt, spats, etc regalia in a gorgeous Highland tartan.

But these skirts, BUHGLY, FUGLY, AND DUMB.


QTC


I think men can look nice in skirts, but agree they'll never catch on. Suppose that's a sort of yea/nay. However:

YEA! YEA TO CORRECT SPELLING! THANK YOU, TLO!


I like the concept of men's skirts. I don't like these.


Like any other item of menswear, it all about the tailoring. Most men simply do not look aesthetically pleasing in loose drapey fabric.

Heavier, tailored fabric with appropriate accessories and I say go for it. These, not so much.


Would guys want to keep up with all the maintenance you have to do to wear a skirt? Don't think so.


unfortunately there are women who don't shave their legs and wear skirts.

If men start wearing skirts, they should have to wear panthose also. (A friend just took a job that deals with the public and the company gave her a book with a dress code that states "No bare legs" and "No open toe shoes".)


Maybe some designer should break out "kitten heels for men!!"


...and the "bro"?


honesty.not.pc

HELL TO THE NOOOOO!

I think this is the biggest NO I have ever given to a fashion look (well maybe second to those hoof/demon shoes).

the fact that they are H&M just means that the skirts will fall apart after 4 washes and then we would have men wandering about in ragged skirts...definitely not hot (don't get me wrong I love to buy from H&M but the quality is not the best).

I would NEVER have sex or think about any kind of sex with a dude wearing a skirt (and my gay friend said he wouldn't either).

Ok rant over, sorry I just had to get that off my chest.


Clueless Jock

Skirts tend to negate the desired V shaped sillhouette for men. That said, Brad Pitt and Eric Bana pulled it off in "Troy".


The crotch stank comments are ridiculous. If anyone is having a problem with STANK...there's this wonderful product out there called SOAP...use it! omg & smh!

Men's skirts:

Con...as much as I like to catch a glimpse of a guys legs...I enjoy a viewing a well packaged butt more. Plus, I really don't see the average American guy ever shedding their pants and donning on a skirt...it's not their image of masculinity.

Pro...it'd be fun to just hang loose and not get the junk all bunched and pinched, and have to adjust it or have to deal with zippers and flies. Oh...and catching a breeze down there...hmmm...sounds nice!

I'd love to see more options and diversity in menswear...and the solid blue pleated skirt shown above is very smart looking (I don't care for most of the others though)...so I'll say YEA , BUT it will never be accepted by mainstream Americans.


Haha whoever compared these to those awfuly witchy "broomstick" dresses of the mid-90s was SPOT-ON, and wins at life. Skirts on men can be hot. None of these fug, dated things will look good on anyone but Sarah Jessica Parker in Hocus Pocus. Trust.


The first pleated skirt reminded me a bit of the utilikilts. I like those, but these skirts didn't work. I especially thought the last one had a completely wrong length. Very NOT flattering.

There is a good way for men to wear skirts without showing the jewels, and I have seen a video on a kilt website illustrating how to do it. It does require enough fabric to push the excess gently down between the knees, and waiting room gowns don't cut it. Any pleated skirt or kilt would work, though.

Annsunny


The skirt wouln't be terrible since the average man wouldn't be wearing it anyways. Only the fashionable or the individualist would have the guts to even give it a try so go ahead and sell them.

lol @ the crotch stank though!


In theory, I'm fine with skirted men, though having been raised long enough ago that there were certain occasions when the relative comfort of pants was denied, I kinda wonder "why would you want to?"

[What does one say to boys to train them to sit with their knees together? Neither "Sit like a lady" nor "Sit like a gentleman" seem quite right.]

In practice, always excepting kilts, the occasional man whom I've met who wore skirts in daily life has always been a little bit self-consciously on the fringe, in ways that don't appeal to me.

Now, maybe I've just met the wrong guys wearing skirts. Since I think kilts are quite attractive, the idea ought to scale.


Anyone who thinks Sean Connery is hot should go on YouTube and check out the Barbara Walters interview where he talks about how a woman in a relationship sometimes needs a good smack in the mouth. And he's completely serious. Totally turned me off him forever....

Oh yeah, the skirts: no.


"jw_ny said: The crotch stank comments are ridiculous. If anyone is having a problem with STANK...there's this wonderful product out there called SOAP...use it!"





Excuse me, but are you expecting the innocent victims of Stank to be responsible for this malady that has been inflicted upon them by an uncaring god?

--GothamTomato


My hubby keeps one skirt to wear around the house, normally in the summer when it's hot as hell, and he goes commando, too.

The only other place the skirt makes an appearance is at pagan gatherings and he's drumming for hours- much more comfy to hold the drum between the legs, sit for hours, etc. But we both had fun picking it out for him. It's a full broomstick skirt that hits him midcalf, so he has plenty of fabric to move around where he needs it.


honesty.not.pc said...

"I would NEVER have sex or think about any kind of sex with a dude wearing a skirt (and my gay friend said he wouldn't either)."

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My laugh of the day! I know you were just ranting, but that is a statement just BEGGING for the inevitable exception to sashay his adorable way to your door!

Now, if you said "I'd never appear in public with" that'd be a different matter!


OK, I have my feet clearly planted in old fart territory since I had to google utilikilt, having never heard of one.

That much admitted, I would add that if my son or husband walked in the door wearing a man skirt I would LMAO.

But enjoy the breeze fellows.


Skirts are impractical and uncomfortable and you have to sit a certain way when wearing them. Plus if you are anything other than thin, your thighs rub and you get chaffed, so hosiery, another layer of torment, is necessary.
As a woman wear pants for comfort as often as possible. Considering that men are even more comfort-driven why on earth would they co-opt an even marginally unpractical garment?
Just sayin'


Women wear pants, why can't men wear skirts?


I like kilts a lot, not crazy about those frou frou ones.


I am a woman and find skirts immensely more comfortable than pants. Airy, freer, less constrictions, your legs move much easier inside a skirt than pants. I do wear pants, for fashion, but what is more comfortable in summer than a fresh summer dress or in winter that thick, warm, perfectly fitting opaque tights?


Nay to the oh hell no power!


I'm an ass man (among other things) and most skirts aren't going to do anything to accentuate that so I don't have a lot of interest.

But I like the genderfuckery.

But pockets! Are there pockets? Where do you put your wallet, keys, handkerchief, etc.

I also work a corporate stiff job in one of the stiffer industires: Insurance. And I work for a Japanese company. It would never fly.

My husband has amazing thighs and incredible calves (oh, these former professional ballet dancers...) and could rock the $hit out of a kilt or a skirt.

But we're both 45 yr old gay men so we'd just look like we were fighting time and still trying to work a club kid look from 1990.

But I love all this discussion.


Fetch is never gonna happen.


"Bill said: I'm an ass man (among other things) and most skirts aren't going to do anything to accentuate that so I don't have a lot of interest."





Yes, thank you. I hadn't even thought of that. Ass: We all need more of it. (I smell a bumper sticker).

I like the way you always distill a debate into the most important aspects.

--GothamTomato


I wouldn't say no to skirts on men. Usually I prefer ogling a guy's well-defined and well-packaged backside, something only a trouser can really achieve, and I do agree that a skirt can be quite impractical for many activities (as I've had to learn myself on various ocations), but if someone feels like wearing one, I say "Go for it!".
The skirts H&M offers sadly are far too derogative of women's wear to look good. Someone said, they looked like a catholic school uniform and I admit that was the first thought that crossed my mind too. The second was, that this season I'll probably go shopping in H&M's male section, because those skirts and shawls look like they would go well with my wardrobe.
But why not bend the modern western gender rules a little bit and have fun with the oldest male fashion there is? Men wore skirts quite a long time, women wearing the first makeshift trousers for working in the fields...


honesty.not.pc said...

...........I would NEVER have sex or think about any kind of sex with a dude wearing a skirt (and my gay friend said he wouldn't either).



It's better than you would think.


Can you see my husband in this?
Hahahahahahahaha! Yeahno.


Linda from Chicago

Skirts are never going to work on men unless they take lessons from actors who have worn Greek and Roman outfits for movies (or kilts for stories set in old Scotland) and had to carry off the look with confidence.

Otherwise, these guys just look uncomfortable or out-of-place. Maybe it would help if they carried claymores and dirks or swords and shields.


The one man who rocked a skirt would be David Bowie, at least twice.

Once when he worked a 'Cyd Charisse as Ninotchka in "Silk Stockings"' uniform skirt suit on Saturday Night Live.

And of course his Mr. Fish velvet "man dress" on the original cover of "The Man Who Sold the World".

I immediately thought of some of the Goth guys who wear floor length coats that flop around their heavily booted ankles and how cool it looks to me. I could see the more flowing skirts over heavy black leggings and work boots, kind of like they were thrown on over what he was already wearing.

I think it's really all about attitude and putting it over. I wish I was about 30 years younger.

BrianB


This is why I like skirts (and dresses) with pockets, however much TLo don't. :p Things are just more practical that way!

Another woman who finds skirts far more comfortable than pants, especially in the crotch. If you don't feel secure about it, that's one thing, but if your thighs are rubbing together (as do mine) under a skirt they will rub together in pants and the first part of one's jeans to wear through is always, always high up on the inner thighs.... >.>


I just saw this piece on 60 minutes about high school football in American Samoa. Ahem, something like 60% of their kids get into the NFL.....and they WEAR SKIRTS!


Kilts can be so hot. I honestly believe that men's skirts can be too, but these are not. Very much not.


Men in skirts, maybe (a good-looking teen-twenty-something can get away with anything, girl or boy.)

But a ruffled skirt? Combined with a greasy forehead curl?

However, if they were to move the manskirts that don't sell to the plus size department, that serve a customer H&L doesn't much.

Another problem H&L rips up overstock and dumps into landfill, rather than re-selling or donating to charities.

And those skirts look like their slotted straight to landfill for me.


raisin mountaineer

Didn't like these, but that doesn't mean I'm opposed to all skirts on men. 'round here (the slightly new-agey mountain west) men show up in carhart-type "work skirts", kilts, and even the occasional sarong for social events like outdoor music festivals, etc. It's sort of an "I'm so manly that I can do this" thing, and mostly, it works. They look comfortable and appropriate for the venue, and it's not even particularly distracting (unless of course the legs are great, in which case being distracted is a good thing.)

These however do not work, because there is no sense of practicality, comfort or machismo with them. To work, a skirt must be manly. And yes, that is possible. I'll send you a pic of a few manly men looking great in their man-skirts sometime.


I like the first photo, that's a pretty sharp look. The others, not so much.

My boyfriend has a kilt that he wears on occasion. I love it -- easy access. ;)


Hell yea! Defy gender conventions with cheap clothing (I'm being sincere! I can't afford a Gaultier men's skirt, but I sure can afford H&M.)


The problem with the H&M skirt is that nobody wants to wear something so obviously from H&M. The store is fine for mixing in loud separates, but the skirt is too feminine (even for the H&M market), and the added press its getting doesn't help, as now its instantly identifiable as 'that H&M skirt.' Plus, its not like its Commes des Garcon or Gaultier, where the high fashion name helps mitigate the unconventional look.


See, I'm for the idea of men being "allowed" to wear skirts (meaning, society not considering them wacky for it), because I figure since I find a skirt comfy in hot weather, a guy would, too. (Isn't that part of the reason behind Utilikilts?) But to really work on a guy I think they'd have to be designed to be low-frill and practical, and these are a bit frilly and non-practical.

Now, a good sportswear separates designer could probably turn out some fashionable but practical unisex skirts, or at least some his-and-hers styles with minor differences to account for the different basic shape. Sorta like jeans, or khakis. And I could definitely get behind that, because a) see para 1 and b) I could really use some practical skirts myself.


Totally agree. Even kilts push it sometimes especially when the man isn't in the least bit Scottish. These just look horrible. They could be the prettiest skirts in the world and that wouldn't help.


Tina said...Now, a good sportswear separates designer could probably turn out some fashionable but practical unisex skirts, or at least some his-and-hers styles with minor differences to account for the different basic shape. Sorta like jeans, or khakis.

That's a good idea. I like the basic concept.

But it also leaves us open to the possibility of Skockers or SkirDockers or whatever the Levi Strauss & Co. will call their pleated, khaki, wrinkle-resistant skirts that will be sported by middle aged suburban men and office workers everywhere.


My husband and I have been on a Samurai movie binge for about a year - You can't get more manly man than Toshiro Mifune. I guess technically, Samurai dress in long skorts. But they have a silhouette that reads "dress." They, also strap on a sword that can slice a 2x4 in two like a tomato (just sayin).

Anyway, I can imagine men getting to skirts through kilts and Samurai type clothes, and the above mentioned Samoan skirts.

If I could wave a wand, though, I think I would wish for more color in men's clothes before I wished for skirts.


Wow, what a conservative attitude here. The loose, floppy, below-the-knee hip-hop shorts all over the place for years now look pretty much like skirts to me, so what's the big deal? Oh yeah, skirts are for girls, and skirts are about showing off the body and easier access to it, and that's only for girls too.

Please. Men with nice legs (and a lot of pot-bellied men have nice legs at least) should wear skirts as much as women should.


I really dig the idea of skirts on men. Kilts? Beautiful. These things? Like an above poster said, they look like they belong on a woman named "Moonflower" selling hemp soap at Renfest. No. Just...no.


It could be good, but this isn't very inspiring. And at this point in time, man-skirts are too off-mainstream to catch on unless they somehow look absolutely gorgeous. I'm not feelin' it, so I say nay; try again another day.


I don't mind them in the context of a fashion show, but if I saw some boy walking down the street in a skirt I honestly don't know what I would do.


Bill said:

". . . their pleated, khaki, wrinkle-resistant skirts that will be sported by middle aged suburban men and office workers everywhere."

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Dang, that just kind of sucks all the edgy and 90% of the potential for sexy right out of it!

You know how to bring the corporate as unerringly as you know how to bring the show-biz, Bill.


Do I think society is ready to let manskirts happen? No. Do I think skirts on men look absolutely fabulous? HELL YEAH.

Though, H&M could do with selling better ones-- these are kind of fug.


I wear skirts all the time in warm weather. Why let the girls catch all those cool breezes?

Pants came along relatively late in the history of clothes. For most of history, men wore robes, tunics and/or kilts.


I think it looks ridiculous, and doesn't have anything to do with society (IMO) it just looks silly. It also isn't edgy, we've seen this since the 80's - maybe before, that's as far back as I can remember. But, if a man really wants to wear one, have at it.


I know this is supposed to be a commentary on the skirts, but I just wanted to say that I am LOVING that brown leather jacket!

~L


Being able to wear both skirts and pants (not at the same time!) without getting grief for either is one of the top reasons I'm glad to be a woman. Even with stockings, I find skirts to be much more comfortable than suit trousers in hot weather.

Man-skirts aren't going to become totally mainstream anytime soon, and I'm not crazy about these H&M designs, but I see this as another small blow to unfair gender restrictions, and as such, I'm happy about it.


Stop Trying to make Man!Skirts happen. They're never going to happen!


I like men in skirts, I just don't love these skirts. I think they're unflattering and not really pretty either. Not really the way to make skirts for men happen..


Men with nice legs (and a lot of pot-bellied men have nice legs at least) should wear skirts as much as women should.

kind of thinking that some people are unaware that pot-bellied PEOPLE, good legs or not, still have issues with skirts. 'cuz when you have a big belly then most skirts with any flare are not very flattering, so maybe then we'll have to add Dresses to the male wardrobe.


yes!!!!


The Comme des Garçons are hideous, regardless of gender. Whoever said they gave them flashes of patchouli, homemade candles and art fairs had it right.

The H&M pleated I could see with knee socks, oxfords and a nice blazer. It has a kilt meets school-girl vibe to it. And keep the legs hairy!

Furthermore, I think Sewing Siren's assessment of how to make skirts into menswear was dead on.

That said, someday our gender biases will be broken down enough that men outside of very narrow social circles can wear skirts without fear of tar and feathers. Today is not that day, unfortunately. Sigh. At least utili-kilts are a step in the right direction.


Though the comments on men's hygiene habits are amusing, may it just be pointed out that the target audience members for H&M Men's Skirts probably have more beauty products in their manbags than the majority of women commenting on this :)


Either really manly or really androgynous men could get away with wearing these.

They just remind me of a male lecturer from my university days who wore a black pencil skirt every day. It didn't really go with his long grey beard and bald head.


I wore skirts and some of my straight male friends, too, a few a few decades back. Jean Paul Gaultier in the 80's. It's been done. Nothing new here.

DAM


i'm all for skirts on dudes, but not these ones. if only they were longer, and less shiny and flouncy.


Yea! Skirts are great. They're better than shorts in the summer, and I'm happy men get the option this season at H&M. Fashion is so sexist.


I'm all for kilts, and, to be honest, have occasionally found them hot with an extra T (my Scottish blood, I guess), but these skirts fail the same way all previous iterations of the man-skirt failed, in that they are silly and rather fug and completely pointless.


Designers always seem to forget that while it's a skirt, it's for men. There's nothing masculine about these at all, and I think that's a huge mistake. It's not hard to picture something kilt-like that looks and feels strong, confident, and sexy. This just ain't it.


Heaven help me. NO!!!

Unless said skirt is a kilt, in which case I all for it...


HELL TO THE NAY.


I kinda liked the H&M one in the second picture. Some of the others looked a bit silly. I have no problem with men wearing skirts, after all, men have been wearing skirts a helluva lot longer than women have been wearing pants. If they start making men's skirts more avaliable at say, the Gap, I hope they'll correct one serious problem I find with women's skirts, i.e., the lack of pockets. Men need pockets whether it be on pants or skirts. Meanwhile, you people who are so dead set against men in skirts need to get a grip and realize just how limited your view of men in clothes is.


This may say a lot about me, but I think it's hot as hell. Especially that first pic. Rawr.


Kilts are hot, skirts....not


Since we know that a kilt is a skirt we don't have problems going skirted. "We" are 1 men and the whole family (3 sons) and we are skirted since last year. Very comfortable, only sad thing: We didn't try it earlier wearing skirts, we missed something.


I love men in skirts - finally out of this dull men's fashion. Men in skirts are much nicer, vulnerable and much better dressed than the average pants-man - it looks always exciting.


“I have come to this country to introduce an entire new state of society; to change from an ignorant, selfish system to an enlightened social system which shall gradually unite all interests into one and remove all causes for contest between individuals” (Robert Owen, 1827)

I read some of the comments, and it looks like that some people have roots in society like 170 years ago. That truly does not speak that we are flexible, innovative or even creative. I would recommend to re-think and go out of that tiny and narrow box and try to use the brain instead what other peole might say without thinking.


Anonymous said...

“I have come to this country to introduce an entire new state of society; to change from an ignorant, selfish system to an enlightened social system which shall gradually unite all interests into one and remove all causes for contest between individuals” (Robert Owen, 1827)


OH, PUH-LEEZE.

If you're trying to promote the idea that men who wear skirts aren't pretentious, you might want to rethink your approach.


There is not much to think about or change any approach because it's just true.
Even boy's and girl's were dressed similar (call it equal), and president John Quincy Adams was the first president who wore pants for his inauguration.
Nothing to tell, American Samoa people are using until today skirts. 50% of all men on earth wearing skirts, so what? Where is the problem?
Is there any little single serious reason that men should not wear skirts? Or, are we all so narrow minded that we can't see what kind of wardrobe is te best for the male's body shape? Tell me.
mara


I never would call ayone old-fashioned or something else, I respect everybody's opinion like I am expecting that everybody will respect my opinion.
As a everyday skirt wearer due medical issues I can tell that I got some strange looks, but much more very nice comments, people are much more frankly and open when I am talking to them. I don't know is it about skirt or not.
One of my skirts looking like that H&M will sell this spring, and it looks for all people who would wear
it very different. Thats the secret of clothes, you must try it on your body, then decide.
TOMA


Since we know that a kilt is a skirt I would say, that men can wear skirts. Definitely a YES.
As TOMA said, it is a question about the body and its shape, it is not a question about the sex because all skirts looking different on different bodies.

Why people want to talk about what men can wear? For sure, nobody would the same have questioned what women do - double standards?


I have nothing against men wearing skirts. It is sad that most men don't have the courage to go with it. Wearing a skirts needs confidence, that's all.
However, I know some guys who wear those Utili-Kilts and they always look great in them.

I am female and don't wear skirts all that often myself. I just find pants for me more comfortable, unless it is really hot out, then it is skirts and dresses all the way. And I think that men have to have the same possibility to wear what they like. We're always talking about equality - here it is a way to go with.
Definitely a YES for men's skirts.
SMS


YEA; Since my husband is wearing skirts I have to confess he would look stupid and funny in pants.
A confession after 25 years! I can't believe that we did not think about another way of dressing for HIM earlier.


YEA...... it is just a new way to go. I am open for all new things, and why not skirts?
It is a challenge, and I hope I will discover a lot of new things. Can't wait.


Definitely a yes or YEA formen's skirts. That shown model might fit some men, but not all. I think what H&M tries to do is make skirts for men public, and that is a way.
There is no chose except with pants (harem pants included) and that proofs what I'm expecting. When I said 'definitely' so I mean the change, because we are talking about a new male which is far away from the old pictured gender-role pressed man.


Why this question Yea or Nay? Want to find an answer or want to judge? Do we do the same every time when new female fashion pops up? And, do listen women to these comments? NO - so the answer for men can only be a "yea" because they have to try to learn about it. Nobody knows if a skirt is fitting, and only then when we can see several hundreds of men in skirts we can try to talk, but still we can't judge. It is against human laws.
All can look silly, perhaps some need new glasses, I tell you what it looks like: A New Male Fashion, and should welcome it because we don't know how it will be look on average people. For sure, men will get out their grey, super-boring old pants dressing style.


Sadly enough that people can't think.
I want to express my own personality and that is the reason that I do wear what I want. Mostly skirts and kilts. I do not need a yea or nay, I am going what is chic and comfortable, has aesthetic.

When I want to give a comment I check out what I am talking about, and that has to be go through a critical thinking way, then I can try to find an answer. All other things are crap.
ash


I am proud to wear my families tartan kilt on every occasion possible. A pleated skirt would look good on a man if the designer used masculine fabrics. The frilly or shiny fabrics he uses "definitely" mean feminine to me.


Of course there are some style, fabrics and pattern which I never would use, but I don't say it is feminine, because only our brain makes this difference. We are sexualizing clothes, but we are talking about fabrics. How is it possible to put that already in such a cage or in this order?
Do the same with other parts, cars for example, or food, furniture, etc. and you'll find out that we are just think in one direction - like a "One-Way".
mara


It is useful to try everything in practice anyway and I like that here it's always possible to find something new. :)


Some skirts are very nice ! Men, let's try !


Skirts (but without shorts biult in) are original male's garment, fits our body shape much better than oppresive trousers, prevents against very dangerous testicular overheating. It's time to restore skirts as a men's wear, everyday wear for instance. However it must happen as a part of fight for equality of the sexes (women have restored their historical trousers). It won't descend into our world from fashion show just because we, men don't want to follow the catwalk trends.
I've read on some forums that men, if want to wear skirts must take the same care as women. Crap, shaving legs or wearing high heels isn't obligatory, I'm not going to do that. We can wear skirts just instead shorts, with the same outfit and "body care" level.
And at last, the reasons. Some think skirts for men are to show "feminine nature". Nonsense, as I said, trousers are much better adjusted to display "feminine nature", because are original female's garment in Europe. Skirts on men are (or should be) for health, comfort, heritage and equality.
strikemaster


Men can wear any type of skirts even women style skirt like mini skirt as you have to remember human body size can change itself like waist size like myself which Im suffered from weight loss that why I cannot wear men clothes which is too big for me (Im in 34-25-34) -- still wear black tight and denim or cord (sometime velvet mini skirt with gladiator sandal that look really nice and very comfortable. I have lots of mini skirts and some knee-length skirts that really nice feel when air blow tunder skirt to keep cooler, I would say it quite important for men to wear skirt for various reason included health plus save some money due to credit crunch so need to change for men clothes to buy cheaper as trousers are cost arms and legs..


Reading the comments I just wonder that so little ,en wearing skirts
Of course, there are no question that men in skirts looking fashionable and very good.
I know there are so many excuses for men not to wear a skirt, but actually there are no reasons against it, just our narrow mind.
Men, on my opinion you must try it, you must your way and not listen to opinions around. Get used to it that you have to control your mind, your life and think about YOUR feeling, your comfort, your health. Then you can decide what you want to:do, but follow yourself, be honest and not a particle in the dust.
Mara


Mara, a change takes time. Questions about kind of skirts for men already popping up, what length etc. People already thinking about, so let's wait to spring season. Well see what's coming up.
Brean.


After reading most of the comments I have still some questions?
1. Who will judge what men are wearing? Women or Men? If you are judging, you must have great experience, otherwise you better be quiet.
2. If somebody say's NO, Never... just be reminded of an expressions from one of the greatest American Authors: "The dead and the stupid never will change their opinion"
3. What will you do seeing a man skirted? Tell him that he is wearing the most comfortable and healthy piece of wardrobe for the male body? More than 50% of all men on earth today still wearing skirted garments and they are more healthy than all westernized male pants wearer and more happier. Can you tell me WHY?

Go ahead and think about that.


Actually I can't answer this questions, and I have to admit that those are true questions. I never thought about this. I know that skirted garments are very comfortable but I did not know that effects the health, too.
I think I am switching to skirts from now on.
Mahe


to the questions by anon 2/21/11
1- who will judge, indeed, but looking at the various websites most negative responses are posted by women, at times "it is ok but not for my partner",
2- the "no never" can be answered by referring to the past, also the argument coming from people who tyhink they follow the bible: what was Jesus wearing?
3- it is a multiple question, but basically a positive acknowledgement would be in place.

In general, the examples shown are not to my taste, but isn't that what the catwalk is about, just a little more than... and maybe they are used just to support the negative argument by the one who initiated the discussion. I do think that a good skirt can be as well acceptable as a kilt. And yes the short socks as used are love killers





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