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Project Runway Season 7: Meet Pamela Ptak

Freakshow alert!


Pamela Ptak


Favorite designer(s)?
God. Because looking at God's creations in nature teaches such perfections.
Current occupation?
Full-time fashion designer and part-time college fashion design instructor.
What is a fashion must?
While working, I love wearing a black turtleneck and dark jeans.
What is your design training?
BFA from Pratt. I studied couture methods at the Maison Sapho School and also studied at FIT.
What's influenced your designs over the years?
Modern architectural shapes, huge metal sculptures, and the works of Brancusi and Louise Nevelson.
What's your favorite material or fabric to work with?
Stiff and crisp with architectural potentialities or extremely delicate and sheer.
Any more specific favorites?
Denim and the stiffer types of Ultrasuede for architectural dresses. Soft jerseys and silk chiffon.
Do you prefer patterns or solids?
Love solids because of how light and shadow playing across them can reveal their sculptural forms.
What are your favorite colors?
Black, lime green, fuchsia, orange, red, robin's egg blue.
Project Runway challenge you hope they bring back for your season?
The redesign-a-uniform challenge!
What's your biggest fear as a designer?
I don't fear much except disappointing God.

Darlings, have you ever found yourself thinking "Wow, I wonder what season 4 designer Elisa would be like if she found Jesus?" Well, now you know, or you will after you watch these:




We are, of course, being very flippant when we say "freakshow," but come on, she certainly gives off that "oblivious to the cameras/people around her/reality" vibe that some of the most entertaining contestants had. We kind of love her and hope she stays in the game a long time and drives all the other designers crazy by bringing Jesus into the workroom every chance she gets. In fact, we hope she brings Jesus along to Mood with her to pick out fabrics and we hope Jesus is standing next to her on the runway when she has to defend her work to an annoyed Nina. Because Nina wouldn't care if Jesus was standing on the runway if he was standing next to a poorly made garment.
















Clearly, her personality played a big part in her casting, but she does have an interesting portfolio and a strong point of view. It's all a little boxy for our tastes but she does some interesting things.

More on Pamela Ptak on myLifetime.com.


[Photos: ptakcouture.com/myLifetime.com - Videos: myLifetime.com - Q&A: myLifetime.com]


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151 comments:

I can't watch the videos right now, but I am so curious about how she expects that she would disappoint Jesus as a designer. Like, is the Lord really going to be shaking his head over a halter dress, saying "Pamela, you expect me to wear this dowdy thing? So last year. I expected better from you."

If so, season 7 will be a lot more interesting than season 6!


While her materials are pretty interesting, if she can't move away from X-shaped frocks (batwings or no sleeve, cinch waist, flare shirts) she is going to Bore Nina.


Happy New Year, T 'n Lo!

Jeebus in the workroom - it'll give a new meaning to "Brother" in the PR context. I expect viewers will be hurling instults and more at their screens if too much proselytizing accompanies the cuttin' 'n' stitchin'.

Good entertainment value, this one.

And the portfolio seems rather one-note, but at least she likes color.

All the best,

NDC


I watch PR with Jesus by my side.


Colour!!! I like her just for that.


"drives all the other designers crazy by bringing Jesus into the workroom every chance she gets. In fact, we hope she brings Jesus along to Mood with her to pick out fabrics and we hope Jesus is standing next to her on the runway when she has to defend her work to an annoyed Nina. Because Nina wouldn't care if Jesus was standing on the runway if he was standing next to a poorly made garment."

HAHAHA! Love it!

Definitely of the "Elsa Ilk", but Tim's praise gives her more of a chance to stay in the competition. And her clothes are certainly not cookie-cutter. Maybe she could go a whole season without making a Wilma dress?!? (Dare I hope?)

Her clothes are not my cup of tea, but you fellas are right... she will be great entertainment!


So, um, yeah, ok... she's done interesting work on redesigning hospital gowns.


Looking at that portfolio & listening to her I'd say that this one was cast for 'personality', not talent. And when she says 'message' I hope she doesn't mean that she wanted to be on to spread that religious bull - because I have lost all patience with these bible-thumping inbreds and their prosthelitizing.

And somehow I don't think G-d has the time to be disappointed (or not) in the outcome of a reality TV show (though if he had something to do with that Jersey Shore girl getting punched in the face, it could restore my faith).

--GothamTomato


holy crap. shes got some interesting designs & construction. but i really dont like her fabrics. how much you wanna bet we'll get clips of her praying pre-runway? maybe she'll at least be fun enough to try to convert her model on national tv.


At least Jesus won't spit on the fabrics. It will be interesting to see if there will be an unusual materials challenge. Water to waistcoats, anyone?


I love her and her origami clothes. And so far, her personality too.

By the way, she never mentioned Jesus-- only God. She might not be a Christian. Just saying. This atheist is only going to be turned off if she continually refers to God every episode, as if he's her personal mentor or something.


So, my friends and I do a little PR pool, $10, designer chosen at random, winner take all. Last season I drew Ari. I think I'm doomed to draw "God is my fave designer" chick this time around.

Personality aside, half of her garments are precariously placed, you'd have to pose like a weird flamingo to keep your boobs from popping out.

Pre-judging is so much fun!


The proportion of the skirt she is wearing are off. If she can't dress herself, how can she dress someone else? I have a feeling there will be some issues of taste with this one.


God & Tim Gunn, the ultimate team.

Hopefully there will be less of a cut out back theme on the show. Just a tad too "mom who likes to shop at the MoMA gift shop" aesthetic.


Why do all non-believers think that those of us who believe in God are stupid and/or inbred? That in itself shows such a lack of knowledge and acceptance of people different from yourselves. Also, not all of us go around quoting Scripture with every breath and trying to convince everyone else that the way we believe is the way you should believe. I am sick to death of being lumped into one big category. It's the same damn thing as saying that all mexicans eat beans and tamales or that all italians talk with their hands, wear big gold chains with open shirts and are greaseballs. EESH!!!

On another note, why can't God's creations be an inspiration? It's the same as an atheist saying that they're inspired by nature.

All of my rant aside, her aesthetic may not be my favorite, but she has a different point of view and thankfully has a relationship with color!


While I find it refreshing to see someone open and forthright about their faith in the Lord, I hope she doesn't behave in a wack-a-doodle way about it. All faiths have detractors, there's no sense giving people more ammunition to use against you.


Anonymous said...
Why do all non-believers think that those of us who believe in God are stupid and/or inbred?


There's nothing wrong in believing in God or mentioning it whenever you like, but I THINK that is very silly to name God as your favorite designer.

Is Mother Teresa her favorite fashion icon?


"anon said: Also, not all of us go around quoting Scripture with every breath and trying to convince everyone else that the way we believe is the way you should believe."




No, but we are talking about someone who IS: Someone who is making it an issue HERSELF, right from her first interview. (Or maybe she's just trying to 'save' Tiger Woods).

--GothamTomato


As Rillion points out, she doesn't actually mention Jesus. My guess is that she's more of a "spiritual," God is everywhere person than a Christian. But who knows.

As for the clothes:

Despite all the talk of God and the magic cottage with Prince Charming chained up in the basement, her approach is pretty intellectual. I think she needs to get out of her head and more into the emotional aspects of fashion and her personal vision.


"Crogue Monsieur said: Is Mother Teresa her favorite fashion icon?"



Judging from a couple of those pieces, I'd say yes.

--GothamTomato


God or no god, I do not like her clothes. Yes, she has a point of view, but that point of view seems to be overly reliant on a great set of lats and dress tape. Not my thing at all. It looks a little cheap, like a little girl who just discovered origami and is desperately trying to origami some dresses for her barbies.


Not sure how much Jesus she'll bring. The Ptaks I knew growing up were all Jews.


People, the "Jesus" thing was a JOKE.

Jesus.


She's obviously addicted to religion.
Hate her already
Isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and Project Runway?
Thank God I don't like her clothes
(it's just an expression!)


I seriously almost lost my lunch on my keyboard looking at this spread. I hate it that much.


So many backless dresses and tops look like the designer made a whole top and then chopped out a big chunk. As one who sews, I understand the problem of holding up the front without a back -- but if you can't do it in an easy, organic way, please just don't do it. My pet peeve.


On another note, why can't God's creations be an inspiration? It's the same as an atheist saying that they're inspired by nature.

As a practicing Christian, when I mean I'm inspired by nature, I say I'm inspired by nature.

I'm just saying.

But that wasn't even the question she was asked. She was asked who her favorite designer(s) is/are.

In the context of fashion design, "Who is your favorite designer?" is not an invitation to get philosophical. It's a straight-forward question meaning "Which of your predecessors and/or colleagues in this industry do you admire the work of?" Either she knows this, in which case her answer is sort of a 'nyaa-nyaa', or she doesn't, in which case she's a bit of a kook.


Anyone else find it ironic that God is her favorite designed, but all of her influences/work are architecture based? Perhaps she has confused God with Mies van der Rohe--can happen to anyone.
More importantly, Ultrasuede™ REALLY?!?!?!?
Cannot wait for Nina's comments.


Surprising, I like most of the clothes. I'm gonna go ahead and predict that ticky tacky color choices will be her downfall, as the shape and construction are very intriguing!


Maybe she's bringing up God to cause a little controversy and get attention. Remember how flaky Jillian Lewis seemed from her audition tape. You have to do somethng to get their attention when you are 47 y.o.
Some of her clothes are interesting. She clearlly knows what she is doing.
I like that she went to Pratt, but seriously I think I never heard anybody mention God the whole time I was at Pratt, I'm not kidding.


I hope she's geniunely kinda kooky a la Elisa, and not just playing to the cameras. Really unique people are fun - assholes who try to act weird for camera time are not.

Seriously, saying that God is your favorite designer in that context? My eyes are rolling so hard I think they might stick like that.

Also, I don't really like her clothes. Most of them kinda look like boxy hospital gowns. Yuck. At least there's color, though.


I hope she is like Elisa. Elisa Jimenez is not only one of my favorite PR contestants, but possibly one of my favorite people on this planet.

Here's why: (almost) everyone else reacts to the scrutiny, pressure, sleep deprivation, competitiveness, and fear by choosing among a very small palette of emotions: self-pity or aggression.

Elisa (and one other contestant -- the blonde young woman who was eliminated for her paper dress, which the judges said was "unflattering," but which Jeffrey Sibelius said was the fault of the model's figure becaue "They gave you an ox!") was the rare exception to this depressing norm.

People could be really mean to her (even Tim: "Elisa, this is just kookoo!") and she was fair to them; would take their criticism seriously; remained true to her vision (which admittedly was a little heavy on the aqua blue); and was always really, really nice.

She was nice, under extremely adverse conditions, when no one was nice to her -- without being weak, or casting herself as the underdog, or complaining, "They just don't understand The Artist That I Am."

Elisa Jimenez is a wonderful person. Even if she does spit on her garments, I want to be like her. victoria


yeah, I didn't see that much crazy and was a bit bummed that she didn't mention, like, Jesus at the worktable wielding the Holy Rotary Cutter. Because I'm thinking a carpenter would have an architectural outlook.

But to those who say it's just personality---Tim DID say that she had the best constructed garments he'd ever seen. And really, she's not interesting enough to bring on for the crazy. She's no Vincent or Elisa.

I really like the less stiff stuff. I happen to live in the colors she sights as her favorites, so I'm partial to a fellow hag with a color fetish.


"Brooklyn Bomber said: As Rillion points out, she doesn't actually mention Jesus. My guess is that she's more of a "spiritual," God is everywhere person than a Christian. But who knows."




Yes, who knows. Maybe when she mentioned 'God', she was actually referring to Tim Gunn.

(Someone, quick, check to see if she has a TG bobblehead on her dashboard).

--GothamTomato


her matchy-matchy outfit in above pic pains me..her fabric and colour choices are going to drive me around the twist


"People, the "Jesus" thing was a JOKE.

Jesus."


-- man TLo (mens?), when do you EVER stop talkin' truth? ;-) you guys are better than gods - you are way funnier, except the manatees, those are pretty funny.


She strikes me more as kooky New Age than a member of the God-Squad but regardless, there is definitely entertainment value to be had here!! The cut out backs are just vomitous. I don't mind the boxy, Japanese origami style but some women do have breasts that need a bra. Like the color, lose the Ultrasuede! Ugh! Having flashbacks of the dark moss green jumpsuit I made in the 80's...*shudder*....


I would not have believed it possible to do cutting edge frumpy but here you go!


Isn't everyone referring to Tim Gunn when they say'God"?

Speaking of the fabulous Mr. G, I'm with him on this designer. I'd like to have seen her work up close but, of course, I take Tim Gunn's word as gospel.

And the choir says, "Amen!"


"sixgables said: yeah, I didn't see that much crazy and was a bit bummed that she didn't mention, like, Jesus at the worktable wielding the Holy Rotary Cutter."





Hmmm... but didn't she say that the reason she only left one set of footprints on the way in was because Jesus carried her portfolio?

Hopefully she just has a thing for Latin guys, because I can totally get with that.

--GothamTomato


Bleh. Don't like her portfolio at all.


I LOVE this chick and cannot wait to see what she does on the show!


Totally agree Anonymous
1/5/10 12:24 PM !!!

The hatred was palpable.

As far as her work, I do like a lot of it and agree with Tim.
(But I don't like the skirt with the print pieces in the seams.


"Because Nina wouldn't care if Jesus was standing on the runway if he was standing next to a poorly made garment."

You guys rock my world!


bitchybitchybitchy

Because Nina wouldn't care if Jesus was standing on the runway if he was standing next to a poorly made garment.


BWAHHAHHHAAA!!!!!!!!!! Just imagining what the Ninacaps might be if Himself was standing next to a particularly poorly designed garment!


I'm going to have to root for her just because she's from Riegelsville, PA! Never thought I'd see that on PR.


I would peg her as more 'spiritual' than 'holy roller,' if nothing else because no promise-ring-wearing woman would design clothes that reveal full back and side boob.


You guys are fricking hilarious!! You hope she brings Jesus to the runway, Nina will put Him right into his place in the fashion world!!

Having said that, I love the colors she is wearing, and the colors she says she loves.


Well, I always have a soft spot for the older designers and Elisa was one of my favorite contestants ever--genuinely unique and open to the process in a way that I loved.

This one--as a designer--has some skills and interesting ideas. I find the designs a bit boxy on top. I actually think this is a case where the *model's* going to matter a lot.


I'm missing where anyone gets the idea that this woman has anything to do with Jesus. She never mentions Jesus. She mentions God only in her little interview thing, and then only in a 'spiritual person' sort of way.


I was surprised by the portfolio - based on how she dressed herself, I was expecting something completely different - certainly not the architectural lines and lots of cut-outs. I liked a lot of the pieces.


Hated her off the bat from the first PR post TLo put up here. I just don't trust someone to design clothes who dresses like my 2nd grade teacher.


Anonymous
1/5/10 12:13 PM

If she can't dress herself, how can she dress someone else?


Oh please. Name some famous designers who dress themselves well. That ratio has to be less than 50:50. No one with clout will say it because they're too busy sucking up to them for free clothes, but that's how it is.

Anyway, she does seem to be doing her best to promote the stick-on bra/pasties industry, but when she doesn't blow her wad on the top/shoulders, I like what she does with the skirts, too. I like the greyish-bluish skirt on the right near the bottom.

I have to wonder, is it typical for runway models to not wear bras when they go down the runway? I mean, it seems like properly configured bras could only help the figures beneath the clothes, but obviously when they flash nipple under sheer garments there're no bras going on, and Althea's model certainly never wore a bra. Iiiiii don't get it.


She's certainly got a talent for choosing ugly shoes. Good styling can get a designer far on PR, and her styling is atrocious. If she makes it past the halfway point of the competition, I'll be shocked.


I think she is going for more spiritual because she said "Oh my God" twice when she was told she won. If she was truly a bible banger I think she'd avoid taking the Lord's name in vain. I bet at least once she refers to God as a she.

This could have the making of a good drinking game. We all have to drink if anyone says God. If she starts saying God all the time, it will invariable make everyone else talk/argue about it, or complain about her in their testimonials.


I meant when she found out she made the show.


"Why do all non-believers think that those of us who believe in God are stupid and/or inbred? That in itself shows such a lack of knowledge and acceptance of people different from yourselves. Also, not all of us go around quoting Scripture with every breath and trying to convince everyone else that the way we believe is the way you should believe. I am sick to death of being lumped into one big category."

Why do some "believers" think that all those who disapprove of faith-flaunting are "non-believers"?
I'm sick to death of being lumped into the category of the irreligious or unbelieving, and I'm also sick of the irreligious or unbelieving being disparaged. Being a "person of faith" is all too often seen as somehow privileging a person's utterances or opinions.

Don't tell me about you "faith", please; just show me.


With regard to fashion, I agree with the earlier comment about this designer's personal look. When TLo published the first pictures of all the designers, this one stood out as looking awful in the outfit she had picked--and probably designed--for herself. A taste issue?


Best portfolio! But, I do LOVE a good freakshow!


formerlyAnon

Unless (given her training, it's unlikely) the only shapes she can make are these in her portfolio, she is able to make lovely clothes. I don't find these lovely, the more interesting ones seem to be placed in the proximity of a female form rather than made for it, and the ones showing some awareness of the body beneath are the less interesting, in my opinion.

Long-winded way of saying these don't do it for me but I bet she could perform well.

Since she's over 40 and employed, she's probably unlikely to be aggressive enough with her beliefs to make for terribly exciting t.v. - it will be the reactions of others, if anything, that warms the camera lens, I'm betting.


I sincerely hope she meant she's inspired by God's creation, the beauty in nature. Because I kinda get that.

However whatever she meant by it I hope she doesn't come off as a overzealous and I have no problem with someone who wants to pray before a challenge and more than someone who meditates to get centered before a challenge.

That said I'm not impressed with her fashion shown here. In fact the only thing I like is the white top so if that's the best she can do I hope they don't keep her around to be the butt of religious jokes.


One thing I think is (and I notice this in myself) that by the time you're in your mid-late 40's you develop kind of a take-it-or-leave-it attitude about what you project to other people.

I can't see the videos, so I don't know how she's really coming across. But I know that for myself, I've almost completely stopped editing myself to please other people. I hope to have completely stopped by the time I'm 50. So, whereas a younger designer might either a) not have the confidence in their faith/beliefs that comes with living them for almost half a century, or b) not be comfortable holding their personal beliefs up to scrutiny, an older person is more like, "I'm inspired by God, and I'm not inclined to pretend that I'm inspired by Vera Wang in order to avoid upsetting a bunch of bloggers." (Not TLo, I meant "bloggers" kind of as a broad classification of everybody who'll be commenting on the show and the designers.)

It's possible to be inspired by God without being an asshole, and it's possible to be a fisher of men without being a hunter. I'm not in favor of using a reality show as a vehicle for mass conversion because I think it's almost impossible to have conversations that are deeply personal about faith that are in any way real if you've got a camera in your face. But that doesn't mean she shouldn't pray before every runway show, I would too. And I bet she wouldn't be the first designer to do it, although others might have prayed in their rooms or gone off somewhere to do it.


formerlyAnon

MyFawny said...

"And I bet she wouldn't be the first designer to do it [pray], although others might have prayed in their rooms or gone off somewhere to do it."
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Agree. Though also, I suspect unless the producers have identified their faith as a contestant's "schtick," for lack of a better way of putting it, others may simply not have been shown on air - after all, bowing one's head for a semi-private moment isn't really all that exciting unless it's part of the character-narrative.


Hmmm...a bible thumper that dresses like Steve Jobs. Interesting.


edinamonsoon

I am so not getting this woman's aesthetic. At all. I don't like the designs, execution or color story (lol --- where's the black!?!). And I'm seriously not loving her model.

I'm sure she'll bring a little levity, but like some have already posted, I, too, hope that Pam doesn't go all whack-a-doodle in the workroom and hand out tracts and admonish blasphemers.

Looks like season seven may be the season of stock characters and stereotypes.


edina


First of all, the God thing, I'm sure, was her way of making sure she fit into one of Bunim-Murray's convenient casting boxes.
"God-believer?"
"Check."
"Next...militant atheist"
"Check."
"Next...worldly city kid"
"Check."
"Wide-eyed, country bumpkin"
"Check."

Secondly, she's competing against Jesus, so that should be interesting.


She's Baha'i, people, not a Bible-thumping Jesus-lover. Good grief! Take your fingers off the triggers and read through her answers to the interview questions before you start shooting off at the keyboard.

Honestly.


"Anon said: Why do some "believers" think that all those who disapprove of faith-flaunting are "non-believers"?"




Thank you.

--GothamTomato


I don't know about the rest of her beliefs, but she's absolutely right about the jeans and black turtleneck. That's my working uniform of choice.


I'll hope for TLo that their little Birdie isn't shot down too soon (yes, another bad name pun: 'Bird' in Polish is 'Ptak'). A weird coincidence would be pairing Chmura and Ptak; will they fly or fall?

JessicaDK


"Because Nina wouldn't care if Jesus was standing on the runway if he was standing next to a poorly made garment."

ROFLMAO


Her clothes are fug and her models are amateur at best - but bible thumper or not, she is hot as hell for 47. That is all.


Don't ask me why but some of her outfits reminded me of "The Flying Nun."


Not digging this portfolio - like the old man (what's his name again?) some of the clothes don't seem to be related to the models' bodies. Chunky, odd, not pretty. My first thought at seeing the pics was "first out."

As for the god thing - I don't care if she's B'hai or Christian or Satanist, that's an assy answer to the question.


Tamarama said...
As for the god thing - I don't care if she's B'hai or Christian or Satanist, that's an assy answer to the question.


AMEN!


"architectural potentialities"

Like art school all over again. And a reason why so many poets love PR:

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/journal/article.html?id=238166


I may be the only one, but I do really enjoy some of these designs, even the back cut outs. The gray dress especially. True the materials seem sort of cheap, but I'm interested to see what she'll do on the show.

I also agree with Brooklyn Bomber that her approach seems more intellectual than her audition tapes let on. Hopefully she'll edit the tacky frippery on the skirts and let her model handle the styling.


aim@ you must know Steve Jobs better than I do, because I've never seen him in a pastel outfit like Pam is wearing. I'd pay to see that! lol

I don't think the way a designer dresses him/herself is predictive of talent or success. I keep bringing this up, but Marc Jacobs? Karl Lagerfeld? Betsey Johnson? Donatella Versace? Zak Posen? Et cetera? (Help me out here, folks.)

People of the Baha'i faith are some of the coolest, most peaceful, tolerant people I've ever met. They are also persecuted in Iran and other Middle Eastern countries.

I doubt anyone would have the nerve to attack a Jew for wearing a Star of David or a yarmulke. "Hating" people for their faith (even proselytizing) is close to homophobia, etc. (You might say that you "hate" their actions, but homophobes hate the actions of gays, too.) Anyway, I think she is kind of kooky but seems to be a nice person. I'm gonna lay off of the stereotypes and hating until she acts like an asshole. Actually, I try to stay away from hating altogether. (No, I'm not religious or even very preachy.)

I'm not crazy about her portfolio, but her approach is intellectual and reminds me of someone like Epperson in that respect. It figures that she teaches design.


Ellen. Good post!



Generic insults like "... spread that religious bull - because I have lost all patience with these bible-thumping inbreds and their prosthelitizing"
..are not only the opposite of tolerant, they are arrogant and demeaning.


*I* have never had patience for that bull.


"Anon said: Why do some "believers" think that all those who disapprove of faith-flaunting are "non-believers"?"




Thank you.

--GothamTomato

Maybe because if they really believed (religiously) in something themselves or had real faith of their own they'd understand and refrain from "disapproving" or ridiculing of others just for expressing their beliefs?

I'm not really much of a religious person, but I think the "some believers" of your comment have a problem because she's not doing anything wrong really and yet her comments are met with impatience and ridicule from most people here. It's not like she's a scripture quoting ascetic or anything. She just has a close personal relationship with god and doesn't care who knows it. Is she peculiar? Kinda. Could she turn out to be insufferable? Maybe. But it is surprising to see everybody roll their eyes and point at her right now when she's not really hurting anyone with her comments.

HLB
HLB


Reading all 55 answers to questions on the lifetime site, I like her.

She has a statue of Kwan Yin in her house.

And Baha'is are open to all the religion's prophets. In my 20s in the '70s I considered it before I joined the Unitarian Church, which is even more open.

Nancy


In fact, we hope she brings Jesus along to Mood with her to pick out fabrics and we hope Jesus is standing next to her on the runway when she has to defend her work to an annoyed Nina. Because Nina wouldn't care if Jesus was standing on the runway if he was standing next to a poorly made garment.


Oh that made me laugh - bless you guys.


"ellenm said: I doubt anyone would have the nerve to attack a Jew for wearing a Star of David or a yarmulke."



You're kidding, right?

--GothamTomato


P-tak? That explains why Maison Sapho is missing a "P".


Gotham Tomato-

I guess I should have said I HOPE nobody would have the nerve to attack a Jew for wearing a Star of David or a yarmulke.

That would be beyond tasteless and disgusting. I just hope nobody on this website would go there.

(That's what I meant, on this site. I know that there are plenty of bigots in the real world.)

Well, I guess there are bigots on this site, because attacking someone for something as mild as this woman's expression of her religion is bigoted. If it's ok to be gay and proud, why isn't it ok to be Christian and proud? She isn't telling anybody else what to believe and, if she's a typical Baha'i, she won't.

And the definition of prejudice is prejudging a person on the basis of their membership in a group. (That is also stereotyping.) Prejudging their design talent is one thing, prejudging them on the basis of religion (or lack of), ethnic group, race, sex, sexual preference, gender identity, etc. is different, and ugly.


"Because Nina wouldn't care if Jesus was standing on the runway if he was standing next to a poorly made garment."

Ha ha ha ha ha!


Moral of the story:

Don't cite God as your favorite designer lest people will mistake you for a Bible-thumper, unless that's your goal, in which case, thanks for the upcoming entertainment.


I don't care what religion she is- her clothes are hideous. Can we please talk about that now?


Favorite designer(s)?
God. Because looking at God's creations in nature teaches such perfections.



What the fuckity fuck now?


CanIGetYouAnything?

People are missing the point. THIS is why most people here think her mentioning of God is comical:

Favorite designer(s)?
God. Because looking at God's creations in nature teaches such perfections.


NOT that she believes in God. Its a pretentious, ridiculous, and calculated answer.


Why does God hate boobs?


I thought I heard birds in her magic cottage. I expected Snow White to appear from out of the Hydrangeas. I think the fact that we've fixated on her comments more than her clothes sums it up.

I can't tell if her comments are calculated or she went back to the hash brownie pan one too many times. But she doesn't have to worry about disappointing God. He'll be busy watching football and answering the prayers of one of at least fifty players who think God is watching over him on his way to the Super Bowl.


In regards to :

Maybe because if they really believed (religiously) in something themselves or had real faith of their own they'd understand and refrain from "disapproving" or ridiculing of others just for expressing their beliefs?

And

Well, I guess there are bigots on this site, because attacking someone for something as mild as this woman's expression of her religion is bigoted.

*tries shouting this time*

I AM RELIGIOUS. I STILL THINK IT'S A RIDICULOUS ANSWER.

She either does know, or should know, that the question in the context asked meant "Which of your predecessors and/or colleagues in the fashion industry do you admire?" Last time I checked, God is not actually releasing clothing lines.

That is what people are reacting to. It's a ridiculous answer to that particular question that shows either she doesn't understand the concept of context, or does not care about it.

It's not a mild expression of her belief. It's exceedingly intrusive and out of place. It's like if you asked me "What flavor of ice cream do you want?" and I said "Anything natural, because God makes the best flavors." Don't tell me that you wouldn't look at me funny for it, because, you would. You know you would. Some of you are looking at me funny right now.


CanIGetYouAnything? said:

"Its a pretentious, ridiculous, and calculated answer."

That is just it. There is nothing about that comment or any of the other comments she made to indicate that she means anything by that statement other than how she finds her inspiration in what she perceives as the work of god. If you think making that kind of statement automatically makes her conceited or duplicitous then you are operating under some kind of prejudice and that's to what some people object. Arguably, there's no difference between making fun of her for her clothes, or whatever and making fun of her religious views but since religion is such a personal matter it is no surprise that people would react.

HLB


I saw that pretty face at the top of this post and thought "Oh good, an attractive woman over 45 . . . maybe we've got a professional, reasonable designer with some skills."

Then I looked at the full-length shot . . .

Wrong.

Why the heck didn't she wear the black turtleneck and jeans for her picture, instead of those orange and pink wedges, that dreamsicle foldy-jacket thingy and that skirt?

Then I got to the religion references. What a wack-a-doodle. Pamela, I don't care what you think about God one way or another, but that getup is hurting my eyes.

--Itsjustme


Tina, you are funny.

--Itsjustme


Well, nobody ever said religious people couldn't be bigoted.


There's something about her that I absolutely love! Her clothes are much more my style than some of the others we've seen (the older guy with the black hair in particular). I'm so excited to see this season! So far it doesn't look like a boring cast member in sight!


Love some of her outfits, I love Asian influence.


Woah, Anon 10:37 PM here... I should have read the comments before I posted. Jeeze. I'd say something to defend the woman but, quite frankly, I'm a bit scared now. Calm down, all.


LaFemmeFataledeNY

Tina said...

In regards to :

Maybe because if they really believed (religiously) in something themselves or had real faith of their own they'd understand and refrain from "disapproving" or ridiculing of others just for expressing their beliefs?

And

Well, I guess there are bigots on this site, because attacking someone for something as mild as this woman's expression of her religion is bigoted.

*tries shouting this time*

I AM RELIGIOUS. I STILL THINK IT'S A RIDICULOUS ANSWER.

She either does know, or should know, that the question in the context asked meant "Which of your predecessors and/or colleagues in the fashion industry do you admire?" Last time I checked, God is not actually releasing clothing lines.

That is what people are reacting to. It's a ridiculous answer to that particular question that shows either she doesn't understand the concept of context, or does not care about it.

It's not a mild expression of her belief. It's exceedingly intrusive and out of place. It's like if you asked me "What flavor of ice cream do you want?" and I said "Anything natural, because God makes the best flavors." Don't tell me that you wouldn't look at me funny for it, because, you would. You know you would. Some of you are looking at me funny right now.



And that is why I still read the comment section. THANK YOU, TINA!


"Tina said...

It's not a mild expression of her belief. It's exceedingly intrusive and out of place. It's like if you asked me "What flavor of ice cream do you want?" and I said "Anything natural, because God makes the best flavors." Don't tell me that you wouldn't look at me funny for it, because, you would. You know you would. Some of you are looking at me funny right now."


YES! YES! YES!


Goodnight, everyone!


I love you boys, but don't you worry just a little bit when you mock a person's belief in a higher power.


elizabeth said...

I love you boys, but don't you worry just a little bit when you mock a person's belief in a higher power.


No.


I loved the dress with the petals she showed in the interview. The rest is a bit catalogue-y but really close to being more than that. I think she'll make interesting clothes.


To Tina:

I won’t deny that her answer is unusual and somewhat obtrusive. However, if I remember correctly the Ceccanti girl said that vision is a fashion must. All the others have taken that question to mean “what do you think is the most important article of clothing?” She chose to give a different answer that expresses how important an unique perspective is to her. Do you lost patience with her too?

Anyway, so what? They chose to interpret the question and gave a different or more personal answer. What is so infuriating about that? She wears her convictions on her sleeve, whatever; she’s not hurting or demeaning anyone. She’s not saying it makes her better than others and she’s not trying to get people to think the same way she does. Even if Ptak’s answer is unusual what is it about it that makes everyone react so impatiently? She seems fairly nice; she doesn’t seem holier than thou or pretentious. If you just don't like it when people express their beliefs, unfortunately that is your problem. As long as she is not affecting anyone directly why imply that she should the way she expresses herself just because you don't like it?

As to your ice cream analogy, I don’t know if I would look at you funny. Maybe I would because it is such an unusual answer (and nobody is saying that Ptak is not unusual). What I wouldn’t do is give you a contemptuous look and then go to my friends and say “I hate her already, she better not keep up that bullsh*t, I can’t stand pretentious, ridiculous, calculated people like that” and then shout down whomever disagrees with me.

All I'm saying is if you're going to make fun of her for her religious views at least wait to see if she turns out to be a jerk of if she contradicts her beliefs. Critizing someone for something as personal as religion/politics/race/etc. when that person is doing absolutely nothing harmful to anyone is just asking for controversy.

HLB


I could say, I'll be the one holding up the "John 3:16" sign when she gets auffed, but I won't, because I think someone will be offended.

--Itsjustme


TLo
1/5/10 11:09 PM

elizabeth said...

I love you boys, but don't you worry just a little bit when you mock a person's belief in a higher power.

No.

ROFL!!
TLo, you're about as close to religion as I'll ever want or need.

"Religion makes good people better & bad people worse".
This comment section certainly proves that adage.


I could say, I'll be the one holding up the "John 3:16" sign when she gets auffed, but I won't, because I think someone will be offended.

I don't know about being offended, but I just spit tea all over my screen.


HLB & Ellen M- I agree.

I find the people who actually get offended at someone who believes in God and is not ashamed to say so. seem really sad and likely insecure. What harm does her answer/beliefs cause you?

More bias displayed by the fact that people are "excusing" her by saying - she didn't say Jesus - so lay off. Really? So if she has Christian beliefs, not something more exotic, then it would be acceptable to ridicule her religion?


The funny thing is that I am not the least bit religious or even spiritual. I am a "recovering Catholic" as they say, and have about as dim a view of organized religion as one can have. And religion has absolutely no place in government or in telling people who they can love or marry. But I smell more than a whiff of bigotry in these comments. Especially those who can judge the entire content of this woman's character based on this profile. And the ones who "hate" her. I just really don't like the use of that word, even if it is hyperbole. It reminds me of hate crimes and hate speech.

TLo, I thought your comments were funny and not at all offensive. And her citing of God as her favorite designer is odd and kind of funny. But I feel like she meant that designers should aspire to the perfection that is found in nature. Of course, I am not parsing her sentences, looking for offensive Christian content. Is it any worse than the egotistical and disingenuous, "I am my favorite designer"? That's really stupid, but I'm not offended by it.

If there is a God, he certainly MUST have a sense of humor. I mean, look at humankind. He's got to be laughing his ass off, if not crying inconsolably.


I also loved Jean's comment about the Lord saying "this dowdy thing...so last year"--lol.

Again, I think Pamela was saying that she had no fears, basically, as far as design was concerned. I don't think she carefully wrote and edited these little blurbs. But I'm not looking for a reason to "hate."


I don't think most people here are trying to hate. They're just having a laugh. The few who really mean it I think are just annoyed. They read her comment and immediately thought of this one person who was really religious and was a real pain in the ass and so they say "no, thank you". I can't blame them. But this woman seems nice and so I think deserves a break.

Her clothes are kind of ugly, though. When she's not coming up with tacky color combinations she's doing badly proportioned garmets in stiff, heavy fabrics. I hope she can step it up.

HLB


Ellen - I have appreciated your comments. I am a practicing Catholic and find the phrase "recovering Catholic" a Little offensive ....BUT that is just my opinion and not a basis for hating or attacking the person saying it.


Wow . . . this thread reads a little too close to my everyday life. I am surrounded by people who either love or hate religion and/or expressions of religious belief.

On the subject of her clothes - I just saw a rerun of Staaaaaar Trek, thenextgeneration which featured Romulans. They wear her clothes. Boxy, stiff. Romulan.


She certainly has an obsession with bare backs!

I hope everything she makes doesn't look as rigid as cardboard. I can't imagine Michael and Nina being too impressed with a dress where you can't put down your arms.

My money's still on Christiane if only for her use of colour!


Her pieces aren't my favorite. But I wouldn't say I hate them either. Sad when so many of us get so excited when we see some color though.


I have to agree with Ellen M. Not with her use of the phrase "recovering Catholic," which would wound my very Catholic grandmother dearly, but with her sentiment. I find the venom spat towards religious people by the nonreligious to be just as bad if not worse than the rhetoric the other way around. (Although I have to say, the "John 3:16" line made me do a spit-take. Genius.)

That being said, I think she's mostly here for her personality. I hope she weirds out the other designers for a couple of episodes while the weaker specimens are picked off, then gets auffed herself for making clothes that are too boxy and too formulaic ("hey, let's cut out a cute swath of fabric from the middle!").


It seems people are forgetting that we are pre-judging ALL the designers. We're looking at interviews and sounds bite from people we don't know and deciding whether we like or dislike them before the season has begun. The fact is that Pamela stated God was her inspiration when most of us were expecting a more typical answer. That's a far cry from ridiculing someone for wearing a yamulke or a star of David. or a cross for that matter, because wearing a religious symbol is not the same as answering a question. There appear to be people of varying degrees of faith on this board. I think 99% of the responses are in jest, and to call people bigots because of it seems a bit out of line.
Who knows, she could get on the show and design her butt off and we'll all be saying, "Wow, she certainly surprised us."


Did anyone see the blurb about her on the "Official Project Runway" Facebook page?
"In her pre-Runway days she was a NYC club kid who the Village Voice titled "Miss Wig Out 1988" because of her bizarre wigs!"
Maybe all the cocaine led her to find religion? Or just fried her brain a bit. :)

TLo
1/5/10 11:09 PM
elizabeth said...

I love you boys, but don't you worry just a little bit when you mock a person's belief in a higher power.

No.


hahaha, love it.


It seems like a lot of people are glossing over the fact that she answered TWO questions with "God" when neither of those questions really have anything to do with God. They were professionally based questions regarding her skills and knowledge as a designer. Imagine asking a lawyer legal questions where every answer had the word "God" in it. If that's what floats your boat, fine. But many people are going to look at you funny for it and that doesn't mean they hate religion or the religious. It just means that for a lot of people, injecting religion into conversations that are specifically not about religion makes you look a little loopy and fanatical.


Actually, the wearing of "clothes" -- or at least, the covering of bodies-- was the cue that prompted big G to throw Adam and Eve out of the Garden.


"EllenM said: That would be beyond tasteless and disgusting. I just hope nobody on this website would go there."




Ah, but they already have - on a regular basis with regard to numerous designers a various ethnicities.

But beyond that; there is a big difference between wearing a piece of religious jewelry and prosthletizing. A big difference.

I think of this the same way I think of that Carrie Prejean nitwt: She tried (desperately) to try to make it seem as if any backlash against her was about her religious beliefs, trying to make herself into a martyr. And yes, there are those who are desperate to pretend that THEY are martyrs, who bought into her snake oil. But the reality is the backlash (if you can even call it that) was not because of her religious beliefs, it was because she's an idiot, spoke like an idiot, and acted like a hypocrite while using God as a cover.

To quote Benjamin Franklin, 'Religion is the last refuse of a scoundrel.' (And he should know because he was a bit of a hound himself).

--GothamTomato


"BryanZ said: I find the venom spat towards religious people by the nonreligious to be just as bad if not worse than the rhetoric the other way around."




You are assuming that people, who are simply tired of having other people's religions inflicted upon them at a loud volume, are nonreligious.

--GothamTomato


RyanGross said...

I watch PR with Jesus by my side.


I read Project Rungay with Jesus by my side. :)


I like that she thinks God likes major shows of skin. Motto for her line: "God's Got Your Back."


I'm not getting "high volume" or "proselytizing" from this woman's two mentions of God in her profile, Gotham. I also don't believe she has said or done anything to make her comparable to Carrie Prejean. Comparing the two is a good example of stereotyping a group.

Benjamin Franklin never said that. He hated religion, yeah, but that's not his quote. I'm going to look it up, but the correct quote is "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" and somebody else said it. "Religion is the opiate of the masses" is a good one, but Karl Marx said that. Nowadays, the opiate of the masses is pop culture. As long as we spend our time thinking about Nicole Richie and Tiger Woods' marriage, we don't notice how royally we're all getting screwed.


"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"--Samuel Johnson


Larry said...

It seems like a lot of people are glossing over the fact that she answered TWO questions with "God" when neither of those questions really have anything to do with God. They were professionally based questions regarding her skills and knowledge as a designer. Imagine asking a lawyer legal questions where every answer had the word "God" in it. If that's what floats your boat, fine. But many people are going to look at you funny for it and that doesn't mean they hate religion or the religious. It just means that for a lot of people, injecting religion into conversations that are specifically not about religion makes you look a little loopy and fanatical.


EXACTLY.


Ah, but they already have - on a regular basis with regard to numerous designers a various ethnicities.

Wow, I really don't remember that much racism, homophobia, and antisemitism on this site. You make it sound like Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh comments here.

Larry, I'm not glossing over the fact that she mentioned God twice, rather out of the blue. I'm just saying that, yeah, maybe it's odd and even a little dumb, but it's not offensive. To me, at least. And it seems to be an overreaction to react so extremely to it. She's just a harmless kook, at worst. And she has a right to mention God and her beliefs and what is important to her.

I can completely understand how gays can be hypervigilant about Christianity, though. However, if this woman is Bahai, I don't think homophobia is an issue.

It's weird how I've ended up being an apologist for this lady. I am so far from religious, it's not even funny. I just think our "prejudging" can go too far.

Man, I always thought Christians were being paranoid when they said that God or Christianity is not welcome in modern discourse. I'm looking at it differently now.


Ellen M said...

Larry, I'm not glossing over the fact that she mentioned God twice, rather out of the blue. I'm just saying that, yeah, maybe it's odd and even a little dumb, but it's not offensive. To me, at least. And it seems to be an overreaction to react so extremely to it. She's just a harmless kook, at worst. And she has a right to mention God and her beliefs and what is important to her.

I can completely understand how gays can be hypervigilant about Christianity, though. However, if this woman is Bahai, I don't think homophobia is an issue.


No offense, but what the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about homophobia? And for that matter who said they were offended by this woman's utterances? You're wildly overreacting. A small handful - like 3 or 4 people - responded somewhat angrily and most of the rest basically laughed about it, classifying it as odd and a little dumb, exactly the way you just did. That's what they do here. They do it to every designer. Every single one. They laugh at them for saying stupid things or bitchy things. They laugh at them for wearing goofy clothes or having tattoos or weird hair. They laugh at them over pretty much anything. Why the hell should religion be treated so preciously?


You're right, Larry. It is just a few posters. But, man, are they venomous. "...spread that religious bull...I have lost all patience with these Bible-thumping inbreds"..."No but we are talking about someone who is making it an issue HERSELF...(Or maybe she's just trying to 'save' Tiger Woods.)" "She's obviously addicted to religion. I hate her already." "faith-flaunting" "not a Bible-thumping Jesus-lover."

I went back and noticed that almost all of the venomous posts are from one person. Thanks for pointing that out. I feel better.

However, I do stand by what I said about religious (or anti-religious) bigotry being analogous to homophobia, antisemitism, racism, etc.--which a certain poster also feels are common in these comments. I don't.


I'm sure nobody wants to rehash this particular fight again, but Carrie Prejean was *asked* her opinion on whether gays should be able to marry. Of course, I personally think her opinion was stupid, but they ASKED for her opinion! If you don't want someone's views on a subject, then don't freaking ask!

And you know, looking at Pamela's responses to the questions, on the second one they asked her what her biggest fear is as a designer. If she had said, "I don't fear much except disappointing my mother," we wouldn't even have noticed.

I just don't know if this is that big of a deal, is it?


Anne said...

I just don't know if this is that big of a deal, is it?


No, but then again, nobody said it was.


"Ellen M said: I'm not getting "high volume" or "proselytizing" from this woman's two mentions of God in her profile, Gotham. I also don't believe she has said or done anything to make her comparable to Carrie Prejean. Comparing the two is a good example of stereotyping a group."




Oh, give me a f---ing break already. The woman made some dumb remarks, bringing 'God' into the context of a design/reality show competition, and people made jokes about the ridiculosity of it. Big deal. As much as you'd like to pretend that's some serious example of martyrdom, it ain't. If you're going to appear on a reality show and bring God into out of place contexts, and in a dumb way, you're going to be open to jokes. Period.

--GothamTomato


I'm getting an 80s art chick vibe and I like it!


"Anne said: I'm sure nobody wants to rehash this particular fight again, but Carrie Prejean was *asked* her opinion on whether gays should be able to marry. Of course, I personally think her opinion was stupid, but they ASKED for her opinion! If you don't want someone's views on a subject, then don't freaking ask!"





You're missing the point.

As I said, she was mocked NOT just because of what her opinion was, (or her religious beliefs) but because she sounded like a complete idiot when she expressed herself. She sounded like a moron, not just because of the content of her opinion, but because of the idiotic, out of context things she said to try to express that opinion (ie; 'opposite marriage', 'in MY country', etc, as if the country belongs only to those with her opinion, which is typical of the right - they think they are the 'real Americans' and the rest of us are not). Say dumb stuff in the media and people are going to laugh at you.

That is what makes the god stuff mockable as well - it's not the religious beliefs themselves, but the out of context (dumb) way they are expressed.

Of course, it could be argued that CP's opinion could not be intelligently defended even if she was a Rhodes Scholar, but someone with half a brain could conceivably take a better run at it. They'd still be wrong, but they wouldn't be a laughing stock the way she is.

--GothamTomato


I read her answers to 55 questions. She's pretty interesting.

Her favorite real designers are Charles James, Balenciaga, Junya Watanabe and Issey Miyake. Iman is her favorite style icon.

Michael said... Did anyone see the blurb about her on the "Official Project Runway" Facebook page?
"In her pre-Runway days she was a NYC club kid who the Village Voice titled "Miss Wig Out 1988" because of her bizarre wigs!"
Maybe all the cocaine led her to find religion? Or just fried her brain a bit. :)


Actually, I think it was this:

Q: What's the ugliest thing you've ever worn?
A: A very '80s metallic peach bridesmaid dress with dyed-to-match shoes.


I'm hoping Pamela flips outs when she meets Jesus because he stole the name from her "favorite designer".


I think it really shines through that she's an instructor in how well-spoken she seems to be. I'm intrigued, though admittedly the Jesus thing has a lot of potential to be really annoying. I bet it doesn't turn into anything really dramatic, though.


Oh man. I hope soooooo much that she trots out Jesus with Nina. Nina will shit a brick. :))))


I watched the clips, looked at the clothes. I started reading the comments and stopped because religious/anti religious flame wars suck ass, is tasteless and boring.

Personality-- she seems kind of hippy dippy but sweet. I had to take a second look at her sherbet outfit because the fashion flag went up in my mind as in "what's wrong here." I think her sense of proportion is off on her outfit. That and she's dressed like a 6 year old. However, she is 47 and likely was just picking colors because they do match her personality which is sunny. I don't necessarily think her clothing reflects her design aesthetic/ability. As people get older there is less need to "express yourself" in personal costume. When I create, I'd just as soon wear a tshirt and pajama pants-- literally. I'd wear overalls if I had them. The less effort it takes to get me to front door answering shape, the more I can put in my work.

Her work: I think it is a bit stiff/ boxy and don't care for the cut-outs. However, she does do softer looks that I like better and her execution is amazing. Let's see if she is a fast worker, they seem to do best.


her personality is a little off putting and shell probably manage to annoy me when i actually see her in action, but putting that aside and just looking at the clothes, they're pretty beautiful, the open back dresses are gorgeous so the skirt with the seaming skews a little fashion studenty, however very excited to see what she does when she has to format her style and designs to the challenges


Pass the chill pills. I didn't make it through all of the comments but enough to conclude that this woman's answers hardly merit the scorn and vehemence which they appear to have elicited. It's not as if she went into her casting session and asked Tim Gunn to join her in prayer before she showed him the clothes.

Her "God answers" to the questionnaire were either calculated to get attention, and/or an honest reflection of who she is as a person. If it's the former, well that's the point isn't it? And if it's the latter, what's the big deal? It is who she is. It hardly turns her into a Sarah Palin with a sewing machine.

I think the most interesting comments are Tim's when he remarked that she had some of the most beautifully constructed garments he'd ever seen and that she was on the cusp of something big. That makes her someone to watch and I love beautiful construction even when I don't care for a design. I also find it interesting that someone who apparently lives in Snow White's cottage also has a very non fairy-tale architectural sensibility. I'm not a fan of cut-outs in clothing, but it will be fun to see what she can come up with.

Now if she tries to make everyone join her in a rousing rendition of Kumbaya in the work room or makes it her mission to try to set the gay designers straight (literally), then man the torpedos and fire away. Barring that, I hope she does take Jesus to Mood. After last season, I think a lot of these designers could use a little divine intervention when choosing their fabrics.


So, interestingly enough, this woman is the wife of a comic book inker -- Scott Hanna. A little bit of trivia for the pocket nerds in the audience!

-- Anun


Hey guys, I am an intern for Pam and a student of hers as well. She does not push religion on anyone and never mentions Jesus once in that video. She also is not a bible thumper or Christian, but a Baha'i. She is the biggest inspiration to me and an absolutely amazing person. She never stops helping people, teaching people and being kind to people. She works so hard that it makes her physically sick. After working with her I've learned everything that I know about fashion and she is just so full of information. She is extremely intelligent and it really breaks my heart to read some of these comments. I just had to say something to defend her because she is one of the sweetest people you will ever come across.


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Hey all-

Just to reaffirm what Miranda put in, Pam is indeed a Bah'ia follower. And what her religious beliefs entail are certainly her business. To again reaffirm what Miranda so kindly put, Pam is one of the nicest and sweetest persons you will ever meet and I'm sorry that this show may not show her true inner light. I've known her since my highschool years, about six years ago. She taught me how to sew, helped me apply to fashion design schools, gave me some of her precious fabrics to work with and encouraged me with her sincere love for life. She loves to mentor children, and I had the opportunity to help her give a fashion design lesson to 2nd grade girls, a few years back. My family is still in touch with her and her husband, Scott, and have found them to be truly giving people. So before you go so far as to judge her, look at her for who she is and maybe not necessarily how the show portrays her (overly-religious, etc.) She had never once pushed that issue in all of my years of knowing her so there would be no need for her to do so now with anyone else. With this in mind, I hope you all enjoy the new season of Project Runway, just as much as I will!


You condescending know-it-all's. SHE'S NOT EVEN CHRISTIAN!

She's a Bahá'í'

Look it up.

www.bahai.org


Seriously, are you so against religion and religious people that just because she mentioned "God" you automatically assume she's some religious fanatic, let alone specifically a Christian, and then have to put her down for it?

Grow up, for real.


Just to clear things up, she's not Christian, she's a Baha'i.

I think her references to God are refreshing. Afterall, God is humanity's Fashioner and Creator.

Stop hating. It's not good for your soul. Look at yourselves, and then judge, ya?





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