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Launch My Line: Congrats & Goodbye

This show has lost ALL credibility with us!
HAHA! Just kidding!
It never HAD any!

The sweet, creamy crack was flowing last night. For one, no one seemed to know what the hell the challenge was supposed to be. Create a "wild card" look! Using these sunglasses! And it should be avant garde! Okay producers, you need to up your ritalin intake because that made ZERO sense.

She was actually pretty cool and sweet about the whole thing. We like her.

Especially since it looked to us like she deliberately picked the one fabric that was going to be most problematic for the designers to use. Gotta love a stealth bitch.

What the hell kind of DJ doesn't know who Lady Gaga is? All this time we thought he was some sort of Miami club DJ but now we're thinking he just does weddings and Bar Mitzvahs.

Props where they're due: even though she's annoying as hell and hasn't ever previously demonstrated anything approaching taste, at least she knew he was coming up with a super-tacky design. Then again....

He won, didn't he? Let us repeat that while you take a good look at that picture. HE WON. FOR THAT.

If it was one of those instances where he won by default because everything else on the runway looked like shit, we could understand it, but no. The judges actually loved this.

Now, we've never treated this show like anything but the guilty pleasure reality TV it is, but even we had to do a little rethink after this. Any judge who raves about this dress should immediately recuse themselves from ever having anything whatsoever to do with the fashion industry ever again.



Sure, it's made well, for the most part, and it's not like it's some sort of fashion catastrophe, but come ON. It's CLEARLY the cheapest, tackiest-looking thing one could ever come up with. We sat there and listened to the judges raving about it and we were all "Seriously? SERIOUSLY?"

The problem with that judging panel is there's no one there to look at the rest of them and say "Are you NUTS?" the way Nina would. It's 4 people who all seem to have the exact same taste and the exact same approach to judging. All they do is agree with each other. That's no fun.

Darlings, you know we have the utmost respect for women but last night we were both in agreement that if we had to deal with this annoying little pain in the ass, they would have had to pull us off her. Don't worry though, we probably would have just pulled her hair a little bit and made really nasty comments.

Up till now, we were of the opinion that both Marilyn and Coco were pretty much evenly matched in the annoying department but Marilyn deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for not going after this passive-aggressive little bitch with a pair of scissors.

After all, what would YOU do if you said this:

And the response you got was this:
Marilyn honey, you're a SAINT.

As for the dress, yeah it was bad but you know who should have gone home last night and it wasn't this team.

It was another in a line of over-the-top diva clothes. No, it wasn't good, but we really didn't understand it when the twins said her line wasn't cohesive. It may not be to our taste, but her stuff has been among the MOST cohesive in the group. Every outfit looked like it belonged in the closet of the same woman.

But man, was that ass shield ever ugly.

And come on, that was just stupid.



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137 comments:

This show has lost ALL credibility with us!
HAHA! Just kidding!
It never HAD any!

LOL. Nailed it.


Isn't Coco supposed to be a real-life designer? She sure didn't sure her best professional self on this show--while she didn't crawl under the table for a little snooze, her passive aggressive ways killed her reputation, IMHO.


What? You don't like the peek-a-boo clown nose?

Last night, I sat there and thought to myself..................

I missed Bob Barker on Rachel Maddow for this???????????


Egads, Coco was a total wench. I actually wondered if blowing up at here with a shut-up-and-sew approach might have worked better--sort of just taking the alpha-dog approach.

But, man, no one deserved that sort of undermining.

The winning dress was ridiculous, but I didn't hate it, but then I lived through the 70s, so I have a reasonably high disco threshhold.

I thought Louanna's should have won and Patrick's should have bit the dust and Merle's was a big gaffe.

And no one had a clue how to make anything close to avant-garde--I missed the PR crew--Season 1, Season 4 and Season 5 would all have brought it. Still actively disliked Season 6--I'm taking a leap of faith in watching the new season there.

So challenge was a mess--but I'll still take the bizarro twins over Isaac and Kelly.


Coco did herself no favors with her attitude with marilyn last night but honstly I still wouldn't want to work with Marilyn. I believe Coco when she claims Marilyns has a hard time communicating her design vision and doesn't always come up with the most practical designs in the time constraints. It seemed like both of them were getting really fed up and their communication styles really clashed. So perhaps just as well

Personally I think it was insane that they got booted. They were not the worst. Personally I thought Merle's was the worst but she had immunity. No Patrick's should have gone.

But then again I was shocked who won. Eric's wasn't nearly as tacky as I thought it would be and again props to Amanda for making the best out of an outfit. But even so


I admit it...this show is a guilty pleasure, mainly because of DSquared, but after last night's episode, the pleasure is gone and all that's left is guilty. The Stumps prom queen tiara was the "crowning touch" on that sad, tacky little disco dress.


You know who Coco reminds me of? Angela from The Office. Passive, bitchy, unwilling, soft spoken. she's even got the same frame as her. it's scary that people like that actually exist!


i thought the most interesting and creative design that even approached avant garde was kathy's... and she was rewarded with a "safe." she looked as puzzled by that decision as i was.


It sounded like DJ Hooker Designer said, "Lady Gaga comes out, I don't know her." But what I think what he actually said was "Lady Gaga comes out, out of nowhere."


"HE WON. FOR THAT."

I think my brain just froze for a moment.

~L


I wanted to punch Coco last night. Way to ramp up the drama and hold your designer's future for ransom. She WASN'T being cooperative, and every other 'expert' helps. Instead of "No. No. No. BAWWWWWLLL!"


Two words:


Poor Amanda...


Again, didn't see the show (I was out with my roomies playing trivia for a $50 bar tab). Now I wish I had to see what happened with Coco.

Seeing the winner and the loser though, I'm reminded why I didn't care about this show after the 3rd episode.


My brain just melted out of confusion when I saw that he won for that even-hookers-would-think-twice dress. The judges have the taste of a 6-year-old girl.

Anyway, I honestly don't believe that guy is a DJ at all. Lady Gaga is played at weddings and Bar/Bat Mitzvah receptions too, so I have no idea where he's DJ'ing, but it is obviously nowhere connected to the real world.


"we probably would have just pulled her hair a little bit and made really nasty comments."

Hehee.

Well you pretty much said what I was thinking. About all of it.


God, that winning dress is hideous. I think they used to make the costumes for the American Gladiators out of that shitty material. I'm not kidding. Amanda rocked it as always, though.

I wish Marilyn had been given the option to drop Coco for Tressa. Jesus, I wanted to backhand her.


This show makes my head hurt.


"America's Got No Taste -
Only by Bravo"
Bravo's search for the tackiest new designer
Hosted by Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber


By the way, Lisa Kline has an online boutique I've known about for some time. Her logo incorporates that little naked lady silhouette you see on truckers' tire flaps. I always wondered what kind of woman would use that image. Now I know: the kind that would sell that silver atrocity in her boutique.

Marilyn, on the other hand, is a class act. In her own world she would have fired Coco and walked over to one of the other experts and made them an offer. Too bad she couldn't do that here.


And...
WE'RE DONE!


I thought that something else must have transpired for Coco to cry -- I think we miss the level of tension between them. My spouse is generally perplexed about Marilyn. He says "if she can't draw, can't sew, doesn't know from fabric or construction... cannot communicate her ideas -- how can she be a designer? What makes her any kind of authority on design? Don't people who want to do this at least study/ read up on the language? Folks, he is an electrician and no fashion expert. He thinks Coco hates Marilyn's guts because she talks down to her and tries to manager her like she is one of her employees. He thinks she approaches each project from a management standpoint, not a creative one.

Me? eh, I don't know. I think the experts are there to provide technical assistance, a little advice as to editing and fabric suitability but are not supposed to collaborate on the design in general. The look on the D brothers when she asked Coco to draw her vision was not good. It seemed when Coco came up with stuff, Marilyn was dismissive/critical. The people on this show that seem to do the best (not in terms of winning) have a clear vision of what they want and are good communicators. I really missed Vanessa this week. She kind of made the show for me.

These challenges are also very stupid. That red requirement was ass. Nothing looked avant garde to me. How is 'avant garde" also "a picture of you as a designer"? I thought it was supposed to be wild, inventive and creative. A design that is total id. Nothing that anyone would actually wear. (which puzzled me when the judges complained of wearability---what?).


Not very original, but all I could think over and over and over was, "WTH, WTH, WTH....?" when that cheap, cheesy piece of short, shiney and crappy won.
Yep, all credibility gone from this show, (as if there ever WAS any!).


Anon said, "I believe Coco when she claims Marilyns has a hard time communicating her design vision and doesn't always come up with the most practical designs in the time constraints."

I'm sure Coco felt entirely justified and had no idea how badly she came across. Marilyn probably was unable to adequately explain her vision. But if Coco wanted to win, she should have helped Marilyn figure it out. Instead, she used passive aggressive manipulation to control Marilyn in order to . . . what? Lose?


After the 2nd episode, when I realized just how much crack the producers and judges were using with each challenge, I had only two things that kept me coming back:

1. Miss Meryl Ginsberg. Mainly because her presence on this show is getting me all warmed up for the return of Ru Paul's Drag Race, but also because she is creating some interesting (albeit ready for Target) looks. I must ask: was she REALLY considered in the bottom last night - it wasn't THAT bad compared to the other kindergarten projects on that runway.

2. The ads that constantly reminded me that Lady Gaga was going to be on. And her >2 minutes and entirely unexciting appearance last night was better than the entire season.....did it still make the episode worth watching? Not really.

My mantras for the episode:

"The judges did say avant garde, right? Did the designers just not hear them?"

"Oh - they said it again. And apparently no one heard them."

"Oh - Gaga said avant garde. And no one heard. She also talked about shapes. And no one cared."

"Oh - the judges must have just done a lot of E and blow together, because they're loving that disco ball like its 5 AM at a cheap circuit party."

And didn't Amanda's face just scream: Can I please just go back to Project Runway? I never should have let that Bravo exec take those pictures....now I'm stuck with whatever crappy Project Runway replacement they come up with next.


Wowie Zowie, Coco turned out to be even crazier than I previously thought. Passive-aggressive is right.

I did love how the editors showed Marilyn describing various elements that she wanted, and then showed Cuckoo saying that she had no idea what Marilyn wanted. Idiot. Bitch.

My very first thought after elimination was that this was a mercy killing. That the wee men knew how disfunctional Coco is, and knew Marilyn couldn't win, so they shot the horse.

(and what woman wants a big red dot right at her pooter? I'd rather have a crotch doily)


I wanted to like this show, but I don't even watch it anymore. I have yet to see a single garment that wowed me :(. Bad garments are on thing, boring garment judged with poor taste are another.

It seems that this format needed Bravo and the PR team to work. Neither of them seems to be able to do it right apart (though I have hopes for PR 7!)


Jesus, Coco is one passive-aggressive wench. She actually grinned in glee when D-squared announced Marilyn's line had been dropped. I would have bitch-slapped her right there, but Marilyn showed an incredible amount of class by thanking her.

Marilyn may have been treating her like an employee, but essentially, isn't that what the experts are in this show? Tools for the designers to use to execute their vision?

And Marilyn did attempt to explain what she wanted and Coco just sat there and came up with no interpretation in drawing for what Marilyn was trying to show her. Just bitched about it.

Anyway, I'm pretty well-baked on this show. It was amusing for a couple of eps, but now it's down to who is actually a good designer and the only two are Sage Girl and Meryl. The rest are ass.

And the guy who won? Is he really a pimp masquerading as a DJ? Cause that dress was total whoredom.


DJ Cubeechee is the ex Jaime Pressley, so being in the Hollywood crowd, he must of known who Lady Gaga is


Oh, so glad I'm not the only one who thought Marilyn was the sane one. I gained a lot of respect for her last night. Too bad she's not around to earn more!


I can't help myself but had I been stuck with Coco I would have taught her the true meaning of uncooperative by stuffing her head under ass in the toilet!


I thought Marilyn was the real problem here. Her communication skills regarding the design were horrid.

Coco tried to explain the dress could not be made as a wearable garment with no front or back. Seems pretty straightforward to me. It's like trying to design a building with no underlying structure to hold it up. Can't be done. I think Coco simply gave up trying to please Marilyn as no matter what she did it wasn't good enough.

Marilyn may be a fantastic CEO, but she certainly has no idea how to communicate with professional seamstress/designer.


AND I gained even more respect for Marilyn with her exit.

She thanked Coco very professionally and her thank yous to the judges were very heartfelt.

But man, she has ONE lousy outfit and WTF? Not cohesive? If anyone left doesn't have a cohesive line it's Volcano Boy & Patrick.

She also had one of the more interesting line names & logos.


Is there any way you can imagine that Marilyn could have gained Coco's cooperation? I am baffled.

In the teams that are working well together the 'expert' collaborates, and sews and to some extent educates. You know, Coco was pissed off that Marilyn couldn't identify the sleeve she wanted as "fitted" - why didn't she just draw a couple of sleeves and identify them? She didn't seem to have any desire to meet Marilyn halfway. Or even take a step in her direction. I don't think DJ guy could tell you the difference between a dolman and a raglan sleeve - but he got an expert who works with him on stuff like that.

One thing's for sure - you get stuck with a lame 'expert' and you are gone. Turn out the lights.

And like lots of you have said - my hat is off to Marilyn. My god. To leave so gracefully and say thank you to Coco in the face of her shit-eating-yeah-I-sabotaged-you-grin was the act of a very disciplined person.


From one of your loyal bitter kittens, I hope you will interview Marilyn. I'd also join you in the catfight with Coco.

Last night's challenge was the worst of LML but honestly it was no worse than most of last season's PR challenges! Really -- was it any worse than avant-garde outfit inspired by surfers on the beach but don't make a swimsuit??


And since I'm boycotting PR after the last season's fiasco, I hope Bravo keeps LML -- I need at least one fashion show guilty pleasure!


Coco is a total a-hole to work with -- I've been saying that the entire season! It was clear in every episode...her little passive agressive self...ugh. Maybe it was clearer to me, because I'm a woman and men usually don't pick up on this kind of thing until it's super blatant, like in last night's episode. It looked to me like she was HAPPY that CEOprah was kicked off. Ugh!!!


OMG!!! I nearly fell off my couch when I saw that horrendous disco dress and I though to myself what's worse is that cheap trash Lisa Kline is going to love it. And sure enough she did!!! Send down the sluttiest dress and Lisa Kline will be all over it like a pimp on a hooker! The judging panel is a mockery to the fashion industry.

I think I could have really liked this show a lot better if it weren't for the judges. There is just no versatility on that panel whatsoever, just a bunch of morons that agree with each others poor taste.


So you go on a show where you have to collaborate with someone in order to win. Why backstab and look down your nose at someone who can't sew? So Marilyn says, "I want x, Y & Z"
How about you sketch a few things similar, show it to her and you know, discuss what will and work work. It was pretty telling that they had no sketches to show when even Patrick and Robert had managed that. If Coco thought Marlyn was being too bossy, why didn't she stand up for herself and be more proactive with designs? For whatever reason Coco decided to sabotage Marilyn. She couldn't even be bothered to tell her not to put a read dot on that woman's vajajay.

As for the winning dress, all I can say is WTH? That was some serious ho wear and the judges are all salivating over it. I miss Nina having concerns with people taste level.


formerlyAnon

"What the hell kind of DJ doesn't know who Lady Gaga is? All this time we thought he was some sort of Miami club DJ but now we're thinking he just does weddings and Bar Mitzvahs."

`````````````````````
Maybe 50th anniversary parties and mature weddings? Most 20-somethings and a whole lot of 12 year olds are well acquainted with Lady G.'s work, and I've heard enough [sanitized] rap at Bar Mitzvahs lately that at least here in Austin, I don't think you can be a Bar Mitzvah DJ if you don't keep up.


The whole time I was watching the Marilyn-Coco debacle, I was thinking, "I can't wait to see what TLo makes of this mess." Then when the disco ball won, I knew your post would be epic.

You did not disappoint.

I don't draw very well, but while I was watching I was able to sketch what Marilyn was talking about. I thought her ideas were pretty clear, but Coco just would not listen to a single one. It was frustrating to watch.

It's too bad the experts can't change designers. I'm sure that ANY of the others, even crazy Galina, would have been able to realize Marilyn's vision, or at least communicate clearly which pieces would work and which wouldn't.

By the by, I have seen gowns that have deep Vs in both front and back. They stay on thanks to some boning and liberal use of double-sided tape.


I have to admit, I really like the winning design. It's INSANE and really tacky, but I have a soft spot in my heart for sequined dresses (and they've been in for awhlie). It's cute, fun, and like you said, well-made.


twc said...
By the by, I have seen gowns that have deep Vs in both front and back. They stay on thanks to some boning and liberal use of double-sided tape.


Yeah - All Coco had to do was look over a couple of work tables to see an example of a dress with a deep v in the front and back. The winning dress by DJ guy has deep v's front and back and it seems to be staying up somehow.


The winning design has a deep V in the front and back... UM...Coco dear? You want to take back what you said before about "impossible"?


You know with most people who are "passive-aggressive", I think passive some times, aggressive other times. Man this Coco Bitch is Passive AND Aggressive at the same time and all the time.

And since DD knew and and did nothing to help out Marilyn - despite the fact that they assigned the loon to her - demonstrates that this show is totally FOS.

Marilyn was far more gracious and patient than I would have been.
I would have FIRED her ass and did my best on my own - and if the execution sucked, I'd defend it to the judges saying - you gave be a lazy hysterical moron and in order to have my own line I would never let my ASSISTANT (who was going to make money off of me) be that disrespectful.


No way. Coco may have been passive aggressive and a little whiny, but Marilyn was a straight-up biotch obsessed with winning, even though she clearly didn't know anything about fashion and could never articulate what she wanted her design to be AT ALL - but was then constantly getting pissed that Coco couldn't read her mind and just whip up anything she wanted in the very limited time constraints. I wouldve quit within days had I been forced to be Marilyn's partner. She always seemed very ungrateful, and was as aggressive as Coco was passive-aggressive, but let's see -WHO had to do all the work? COCO. I won't even get into the fact that the "panic button" was stupid and nonsensical, or that apparently Marilyn thinks a bridal gown with a front slit right up to the cooch is appropriate for a state dinner at the White House. Completely laughable.

Oh, and the name "Lilly Remarkable" was just fucking stupid. Fin.


Guys, Marilyn and Coco DID have a pile of different sketches that they showed multiple times. The problem was that Marilyn didn't like anything other than her idea of a deep V in the front and back (which, let's face it, could describe a thousand very-different dresses and was the only input Marilyn would give). Coco wasn't saying it was impossible, only that she wouldn't be able to make it in the 15 hours they had left (which presumably also included sleeping time, not 15 hours of work time). They had a late start and were behind everyone else. Better to be honest than overestimate one's abilities, no? (And, uh, their final dress basically was a deep V in the front and back, so I don't get all the snarking about Coco's supposed lack of ability.)

When Dan and Dean came by and asked what their design was because nothing was made yet, you could tell Marilyn was embarrassed and panicked and just said "Coco - draw it." when A, they hadn't even chosen a design yet, and B, Marilyn shot down every idea Coco ever had - but of course she wanted her to bail her out on the spot when she needed it.

Neither was a great communicator with the other, but one clearly didn't ever have a clue what she was talking about, and it wasn't Coco. I remember one episode (jumpsuit?) Marilyn was doing her usual non-description of the sleeve she wanted, and Coco not only had to point out that she was really talking about the neckline, but when she asked "Do you mean like this?" and motioned with her hands, Marilyn just snapped at her "Yeah, that's what I said!" Typical micromanager boss - has her hand in everything when she really can't do any of it herself. $50,000 ain't worth it. I don't think she did, but if Coco intentionally sabotaged Marilyn then she's my new hero.

And yes, the tacky disco dress WITH TIARA winning was the most laughable moment in all of these fashion reality shows. Lisa Kline and "the other woman judge" I can maybe understand, but please don't tell me the Catens actually thought that crap was good? shudder (Oh, someone mentioned Galina, DJ's partner was much more helpful than Coco. She wasn't "helpful," she just designed their first 3 looks - something Coco refused to do because she wasn't supposed to be the designer. It's not her fault Marilyn wasn't one, either.)


Thank you! I had this fear that I was the only person watching who thought "Seriously? That won?" It was tacky and cheap (and the little tiara didn't help). She looked like the annoying drunk girl you try to avoid at parties.

In the beginning of the season, I, too, thought both Marilyn and Coco were evenly matched, but Coco pulled herself ahead. Every single thing she did and said last night irritated me. The panic attack? Lame and a cry for attention.


Oh c'mon Marilyn was a know-nothing bitch, and CoCo was at the end of her rope.

I've worked for a boss like Marilyn, who knew less about the business than those below her, so compensated by babbling nonsense impossible to decipher and then got personally vicious when none of her unformed or bad ideas could possibly work.


Yeah, I've kinda gotten used to the whole cracktacular judging on this show, but I was still horribly shocked at how they reacted so positively to this dress. I mean, really. What's-her-face said she'd buy it? For whom? For herself? She'd get laughed out of the party. I am just amazed by how tacky crap is lauded on this show. Ugh, they need a Nina DESPERATELY.

I feel like this show had such potential, but their two female judges are ridiculous. I mean it--they are terrible. The dark brunette seems like she's TRYING to be the megabitch of the bunch, perhaps hoping to be the Nina of the show, but she falls flat in every way. I'm not impressed by either one of them, and I shudder to think that their opinions are supposed to be a good litmus test of what fashion should be.

Also, the lack of consistency within this judging round was absurd. Patrick was criticized for "copping out" on the use of red, but they praised Luanna's for using it in one spot as her initials? What? And, as someone else said, the comments about wearability v. the challenge (which mentioned avant garde, even though I didn't really see anything avant garde) was ridiculous. I just... arg. That's basically where I'm at. Arg.


Coco may be annoying as hell, but Marilyn is a control freak no fashion communication skills whatsoever. Listening to Marilyn's attempts to explain what she wanted done made me want to yell at her.

Also, the little smirk-edit on Coco after the team was eliminated was sweet.


Yeah, every show, two words for CoCo: passive aggressive.

Hard to watch.

Marilyn handled herself with grace. Please try to interview both.

Nancy


I forgot it was on.

That, pretty much, says it all.

--GothamTomato


Why didn't they have them design stagewear for Lady Gaga. If they wanted to stick with the RTW and collection ideas, they could have had them also do a RTW version/companion for the Gaga design, as they did on PR for the avant garde challenge. Then they could have given them some extra time. But why have Gaga on and not use her; she should have been a judge as well (if she wasn't--I don't watch the show because I don't have cable).

The winning dress is vaguely like a vintage Versace that Kate Hudson wore at the AMA's in November. It's sort of the ugly-ass version of that dress, which was quite pretty. It's bad when the TIARA is the best part of the outfit.


Seeing the winner and the loser though, I'm reminded why I didn't care about this show after the 3rd episode.

You lasted 1.5 episodes longer than I did, then.

Also, on the topic of Lady Gaga, the only reason I know who she is is because of fashion-related sites. I don't really listen to much radio what with the owning about a jillion mp3s, and when I do it's generally not pop stations.


Coco was a real designer, but labeled "expert" by the show I would be pissed too if the "designer" on my team would give practically no input, get pissed at all my suggestions, and not listen to any of my concerns, brushing them aside because "WE HAVE TO WIN!!!" Maybe you would have, Marilyn, if you had come up with a WINNING DESIGN, which let's face it was your job, not Coco's.

Whoever says Marilyn acted with "grace" has a really skewed sense of decorum. Being a controlling wench the entire time then plastering a big fake smile on your face because you can't show any weakness or vulnerability isn't graceful, it's typical Type-A "take-no-prisoners" behavior. Buh-bye, Shrilly Unremarkable.


Coco was a real designer, but labeled "expert" by the show I would be pissed too if the "designer" on my team would give practically no input, get pissed at all my suggestions, and not listen to any of my concerns, brushing them aside because "WE HAVE TO WIN!!!" Maybe you would have, Marilyn, if you had come up with a WINNING DESIGN, which let's face it was your job, not Coco's.

Whoever says Marilyn acted with "grace" has a really skewed sense of decorum. Being a controlling wench the entire time then plastering a big fake smile on your face because you can't show any weakness or vulnerability isn't graceful, it's typical Type-A "take-no-prisoners" behavior. Buh-bye, Shrilly Unremarkable.


Where were the Essa's!!! I could only dream of what Vanessa would have designed for this challenge. She probably would have won!

Coco, Marilyn, Roberto all drama with their mouth's, so over it! At least Vanessa gave us drama with her clothes, isn't that why we watch these shows? I miss that cute little blond, it's so boring without her.

Bring the Essa's back!


Haven't seen it yet but the "winning" look is okay from the back but the front and the length is just horrible. Was the outfit FOR Lady Gaga? Then I guess I can understand but otherwise tacky-city.


I deleted the show from my DVR but then I couldn't sleep last night and there it was, sitting on ondemand already. I caved!

The challenge sucked, Gaga should have come on at the beginning, and I seriously don't get how they didn't see cohesiveness in Marilyn's collection. I can't say I'd want to go out and buy it, but I agree that it looked like it came out of the same woman's closet.

And as for the DJ, I had this feeling whatever he rolled out there would win. Sure enough, the judges were loving them some cheap and tacky. Hi, the model was wearing a freaking tiara. Did she just win Rock of Love or something?


No Mariah, the outfit wasn't for Lady GaGa, and it still wouldn't be understandable if it had been because Lady GaGa would never, ever, ever, ever, ever wear that crappy little thing. Just because she intentionally dresses crazy doesn't mean she doesn't have a discernible style or will just wear anything.


What Coco did to Marilyn is the equivalent of sticking her fingers in her ears and humming very loudly and then saying, "I didn't hear you say anything about what you wanted." It appeared to me that Marilyn was trying to communicate with that B**ch, and she wanted nothing to do with it. I hope she has ruined her career with her behavior. She wouldn't even hear Marilyn out, who looked pretty stunned by how uncooperative the witch was being.

Bleh. Karma, Miss Coco, it will bite you in your butt.

And I thought Mr. DJ was going home for that atrocity, are you freaking kidding me?? I really thought that was the worst of the bunch,


Any judge who raves about this dress should immediately recuse themselves from ever having anything whatsoever to do with the fashion industry ever again.

THANK YOU!

Ugh, I don't know what is the matter with these judges, not only keeping Eric around for so long but giving him 2 wins for 2 craptacular looks!

Sad to see Marilyn go, but also kinda happy to see Coco go.

As far as the challenge - why even bother with an avant garde challenge on a show like this? PR contestants don't even understand what avant garde is most of the time, so how in the world could they have expected this crowd to make something truly avant garde?


Steeplechaser

I agree that all of Marilyn's looks looked like they would be in the same woman's closet, but that's not exactly what being a cohesive collection means, and Marilyn's collection really wasn't very cohesive overall - not nearly as much as Patrick's jewel-toned, torn death shrouds. You could pick 12 different Chanel looks from 12 different collections, and while the same woman might wear them all it doesn't mean they hang together well as a collection. Marilyn's color story was a bit all over the place, the yellow butterfly caftan wrap dress thing stood out like a sore thumb (remember they only have like, 4 looks so far) and as far as I can tell the only common design throughline was big-ass neck drapes and cowls, and even that didn't hold through all of them.

Still, Patrick's team should have gone home over Marilyn. Their latest crappy entry was, sadly, their best by far.


I have so much respect for Marilyn. I don't know how she kept her shit together working with that nightmare.

What a crappy runway. I think when the designers were told to create an avant garde look, they must have heard, "Please make the most boring dress possible." Those two things do sound similar so it's an easy mistake.


I. wanted. to. punch. Coco.


So much emphasis is being put on the phrase avant-garde when really, they called it a WILD CARD look and said to make it the most extreme, out-there extension of teir aesthetic, only using avant-garde as a descriptor, NOT as the entire design brief. This is something almost every collection has, so I'm not sure why it was so surprising or how Merle who "knows so much about fashion" missed the memo COMPLETELY.

Anyway, if you're aesthetic isn't avante garde (and nobody here's is, not even Patrick's), of course you're not going to make something truly avant garde. They NEVER said "make an avant garde dress," and if that's what you heard you weren't listening very closely. I thought Louanna actually did a pretty good job fulfilling the brief - her look was extreme for her collection but still worked with her other stuff. Perhaps "show piece" was the phrase that needed to be emphasized more than avant garde. Anyway, the challenge was stupid to begin with - sunglasses, wild card/"avant garde", pointless Lady GaGa appearance, red vinyl, etc etc etc. I'm not surprised everyone's confused. That shit just doesn't make sense.


So much emphasis is being put on the phrase avant-garde when really, they called it a WILD CARD look and said to make it the most extreme, out-there extension of teir aesthetic, only using avant-garde as a descriptor, NOT as the entire design brief. This is something almost every collection has, so I'm not sure why it was so surprising or how Merle who "knows so much about fashion" missed the memo COMPLETELY.

Anyway, if you're aesthetic isn't avante garde (and nobody here's is, not even Patrick's), of course you're not going to make something truly avant garde. They NEVER said "make an avant garde dress," and if that's what you heard you weren't listening very closely. I thought Louanna actually did a pretty good job fulfilling the brief - her look was extreme for her collection but still worked with her other stuff. Perhaps "show piece" was the phrase that needed to be emphasized more than avant garde. Anyway, the challenge was stupid to begin with - sunglasses, wild card/"avant garde", pointless Lady GaGa appearance, red vinyl, etc etc etc. I'm not surprised everyone's confused. That shit just doesn't make sense.


I agree with you, TLo, on everything. And what a waste of Lady Gaga!

I'm puzzled by those who thought Coco was the better half of that pair. It's interesting how people can see the same thing and draw such different conclusions. I thought Coco was a nightmare and Marilyn was far more gracious about it than I could ever be. And that smile when Marilyn got the axe? People have been murdered for less.


Okay, maybe Marilyn didn't know enough about fashion to be there. But *I* could have sketched her dress from what she was saying...Coco was a monster from day One. I'd have ripped off her mime-shirted arm and beaten her to death with the bloody stump.


I had to sympathize with Coco. I work with musicians and have experienced that attitude a few too many times. Basically, it is "I know exactly what I want but I can't communicate it because I really have no vocabulary for this kind and every attempt you make to show me what I want is TOTALLY WRONG" or else "Who cares about physical/time/money/health/your sanity constraints? I want what I want and I want it now!" After awhile, you just give up completely, which is what Coco clearly did.

And everyone has already expressed perfectly how I felt about the disco prostitute dress and Lady Gaga's appearance: ugly as sin and seemingly pointless, respectively.


Tamarama said...

"My very first thought after elimination was that this was a mercy killing. That the wee men knew how dysfunctional Coco is, and that Marilyn couldn't win, so they shot the horse."
**********************************

My thoughts exactly, Tamarama. The wee men looked vexed and perturbed. And while I was disappointed to see team MariCo go, I wasn't terribly shocked by the judge's decision. Coco's behavior was so far beyond passive aggressive that it was actually difficult and uncomfortable to watch these two work together (even for reality television standards). I think the wee men thought it best to put the team down before the toxins effected the entire workspace. Their gown wasn't the worse to come down the runway, but their so-called panic-button didn't exactly win them any extra points either.


edina


TLO said
"The problem with that judging panel is there's no one there to look at the rest of them and say "Are you NUTS?" the way Nina would. It's 4 people who all seem to have the exact same taste and the exact same approach to judging. All they do is agree with each other. That's no fun."
Yeah
I didn't really like PR season 6 either!
oh wait
what are we talking about?


OMG! Crack attack! I feel like I'm insane and have since they moment they declared Kathy safe when her dress was the clear winner.

I was a little worried for Marilyn at the beginning when it seemed like she was getting the "loser's edit," as you fellas like to say. But then I remembered that Fancy Man and DJ Short Cheap and Shiny were still on. I was further reassured when FM sent the same damn dress down the runway again (Do they even have a sewing machine in their station? Cuz I'm not sure I've ever seen a seam on one of their "looks").

The DJ's dress, while hideous (oy! that tiara and the scraggly hair--is that from a Courtney Love album cover? why is that image so familiar to me), was not nearly has hideous as it looked like it was going to be.

I MUST find out who is selling these glorious, glorious drugs. But first, must scrape jaw from floor.


Why is everyone surprised that Eric won? You KNOW that there's umpteen Real Housewives of Bravo County standing at the door waiting for his line to be sold.

Also, did the "wee men" (LOVE that, whoever made it up) say to Coco "You're a real team player'? Thought so.


Kathy's Spouse said:
"if she (Marilyn) can't draw, can't sew, doesn't know from fabric or construction... cannot communicate her ideas -- how can she be a designer?...."

"Coco hates Marilyn's guts because she talks down to her and tries to manager her like she is one of her employees. He thinks she approaches each project from a management standpoint, not a creative one."

I totally agree with Kathy's spouse! Yes Coco is bitter but I think her attitude came from frustration. Marilyn kept throwing vague ideas to her and treated her like a sewing slave instead of a counsultant, no wonder Coco is not happy. Although Coco seems to be somewhat snobby in the show, I have more sympathy for her than for Marylin. But I don't think they deserve to leave the show yet, I agree with TLo that Marilyn's collection is very cohesive. Patrick's collection, thanks to the "attetion whore", is the worst for me. I feel bad for Patrick but I can't stand his partner and can't wait to see this team go!


"Gotta love a stealth bitch."

LOL

I never watched this show; didn't even know a show like this was airing on Bravo. Looking at the comments, I'm glad I did not bother.


Anonymous said:

It sounded like DJ Hooker Designer said, "Lady Gaga comes out, I don't know her." But what I think what he actually said was "Lady Gaga comes out, out of nowhere."

He/she is right. That's not only what I heard, but I responded, out loud, to my TV at the time: "Come on, you idiot, she came out from behind the curtain. Since when is that nowhere?"

But I still like the interpretation that he doesn't know who she is. Since he's an idiot anyway.


I wasn't surprised DJ Cra-Z's silver slutfest won the challenge. Lady Gaga is known for 2 things: unbeliably catchy songs (Pokerface disco-sticks in your head eternally from the first time you ever hear) and outfits straight out of Bizarro World. She wore a costume made entirely out of Kermit the Frog muppets.
Normalcy and saleability was never gonna factor into this ep. The designers should've taken the hint from the sunglasses and timbuk3'd everything they every thought abt fashion rules. This was the best time to go over-the-top.


preview is my friends. Meant to say The Fame disco-sticks enternally from the second your hear the tracks. I got a roomie who plays the whole album ad nauseum.
Haven't quite reached the point where I hate it, but I def don't love The Fame like I used to. ><


Where did ANYONE get the idea that DJ Eric doesn't know who Lady Gaga is? Check your ears! He CLEARLY said, "then Lady Gaga comes out, out of nowhere. Fabulous."

OF COURSE he knows who she is. Look how excited he was to see her!

:)


Until this episode, I thought Coco and Marilyn shared equal blame for their issues. But Coco was ridiculous last night. It might have been from frustration, and her being worn out. But, yikes. Who has a friggin' anxiety attack because someone says she's being uncooperative?

I don't think Marilyn was all that unclear, and I often have a very hard time figuring out what some of the designers are talking about.

I love Patrick, but he should have been given the boot.

Now, we've never treated this show like anything but the guilty pleasure reality TV it is, but even we had to do a little rethink after this. Any judge who raves about this dress should immediately recuse themselves from ever having anything whatsoever to do with the fashion industry ever again.

Amen to that. I don't even know what those two women are doing on the show. Or in fashion. As for the winner, all I can say is "tiara".


I stopped watching the show when they won the first time with that tacky J.Lo dress. I usually like watching these type of shows mainly for the critiques and they are not giving it to me.


Shania Sprain

The people saying Marilyn wasn't being vague have clearly never constructed a garment before. Even a deceptively simple idea like "deep v in the front and back" can have a thousand different interpretations and proportions and can be made very differently to look very different. Coco was clearly not going to play designer for her (I wouldn't either, if I was only supposed to be the seamstress), and I'm sure ascertaining Marilyn's design vision was like pulling teeth veeeeery slowly, and without novacaine. She was the worst of all at them at explaining what she wanted. She may have been kind of a brat but I've worked for Marilyns before and I can relate. Team Coco (or Team Knows-What-She's-Talking-About) all the way. I also imagine the hypertilating scene was highly edited. Marilyn was clueless and demanding - never a good combo. I will always respect the person with actual skills more. Isn't that what this shoe is about? Clueless people with ideas getting their vision realized? Not Coco's fault Marilyn never really had a vision beyond her ridiculously delusional mission statement of "flawlessly classic and timeless elegeance for ALL working women who have unerring taste and unending passion for beautiful, heirloom beauty and the need to hide the extra strawberry shortcake" and whatever other high-flown "I'm a CEO and know what I want without actually knowing what it is" speak her delusional ass could sputter. I'm glad they're gone just so I don't have to deal with Marilyn anymore. And who doesn't love a bitch named COCO KLIKS?! Lol


The best thing about the little silver dress was Amanda's legs. Damn!


I was hoping Gaga would have been a guest judge, blah.


Totally agree with Shania and I never even worked with the woman.


I wasn't expecting normalcy, I didn't care if anyone other than Lady Gaga would want to wear or buy the clothes. I didn't expect good taste. But I did expect over the top and a lot of fun. The Lady wore a kermit dress indeed, and she gives you hot red and shiny ... what else do you need???

This epi made me look forward to Project Runway. Sorry Bravo.


Marilyn's auf was a joke. I liked her.

Even though she may have come off as a bitch (hello editing) the fact of the matter is she's a successful woman who knows what she wants and isn't afraid to say it.

I was proud of her restraint, too. I first thought she was bullying the little chickadee, but she handled herself well...like a BUSINESS WOMAN would have. Kudos for her and wish her all the best.

Now as for the winner...

Sure its cheap, tacky, too short and too shiny. But this is LADY GAGA people. It LOOKED like a Lady Gaga costume. In this instance, he immediately knew what the client was going for and he nailed it. Would an average person wear it? Maybe as a costume, but this is LG's schtick. And I'm sure Mrs. Samuels would have ordered on in each color of the rainbow.


BTW: Amanda looks so frightenly thin. Eat a sandwich, girl!


bitchybitchybitchy

I didn't see the show. The judges actually LIKED that POS?

I think that Coco needed a little pep talk from Zulema....or, alternatively, a good shaking.


My eyes! The shiny! The ticky tacky dangly stuff!

This show is a trainwreck, the kind that you know you should look away from and move on, but for some reason you open one eye to get another peek. So if LML gets cancelled, which I assume it will, what the hell will Bravo throw at us next to try and replace PR? Some sort of PR/My Monkey Baby hybrid, with designer monkey baby wear?

i thought the most interesting and creative design that even approached avant garde was kathy's... and she was rewarded with a "safe."

Ditto. Kathy's was the least tragic thing up there.


MARILYN? They sent home MARILYN? I can't believe it. I was falling asleep at the end of the show, so I turned off the TV at the last commercial break, figuring that I'd just come here and read your comments on Patrick's line-dropping. Marilyn's outfit wasn't great, but I was surprised how well it turned out considering that Coco didn't start sewing until right before the runway show. Patrick's looks have been consistently awful, and this one was no exception.

Coco *was* uncooperative. The whole premise of the show is that a trained designer should help an untrained non-designer realize her vision. It's completely understandable that Marilyn wouldn't have the vocabulary to describe her ideas or an understanding of construction, and it was Coco's job to translate her ideas into workable fashion.

It would have been interesting to see how Coco would have worked with Merle or Louanna, who (as fashion critic and stylist) do have the fashion vocabulary to verbalize their vision. I suspect she would have found something else to whine and sulk about, even if it's just that she's sooooo tired.


Sure its cheap, tacky, too short and too shiny. But this is LADY GAGA people. It LOOKED like a Lady Gaga costume. In this instance, he immediately knew what the client was going for and he nailed it. Would an average person wear it? Maybe as a costume, but this is LG's schtick. And I'm sure Mrs. Samuels would have ordered on in each color of the rainbow.

You don't know anything about Lady GaGa beyond her being "the crazy girl," do you? It's fairly obvious.


Sure its cheap, tacky, too short and too shiny. But this is LADY GAGA people. It LOOKED like a Lady Gaga costume. In this instance, he immediately knew what the client was going for and he nailed it. Would an average person wear it? Maybe as a costume, but this is LG's schtick. And I'm sure Mrs. Samuels would have ordered on in each color of the rainbow.

It wasn't a Lady Gaga challenge. She was just there to give a little pep talk.


" Anonymous said...
Where did ANYONE get the idea that DJ Eric doesn't know who Lady Gaga is? Check your ears! He CLEARLY said, "then Lady Gaga comes out, out of nowhere. Fabulous."


Perhaps he needs to check his diction because that's what I heard.


Actually, at the end, I was upset with Marilyn for being so passive. She should have walked up and slapped her expert. That twit just cost her not having her line launched.


"The people saying Marilyn wasn't being vague have clearly never constructed a garment before. Even a deceptively simple idea like "deep v in the front and back" can have a thousand different interpretations and proportions and can be made very differently to look very different"

I'm covered in little snips of thread even as I type. I sew. And I could have sketched a dress from "Deep V in front and back" "fitted sleeves" (bitch acted like she didn't know what "tight" could possibly mean. ugh) "Skirt out here" Now, I know there is editing and lots of it and it may be that Marilyn changed her mind a hundred times, but from what I saw her say, I could picture a dress.

And even if Marilyn WAS a monster (and really, I think she's just that manager personality. And I think it served her well to keep Coco in the studio), the so-called "expert" knew she was coming on a show to help someone with no design experience create a fashion line. And, as I tell my kids all the time, Use your words! No one can read your mind! Staring, blank faced, at someone to communicate "I'm so too cool for this" is not acceptable.


I'm a freaking legal assistant with barely no taste in current music (big Beatles fan here) and even I have heard of Lady Gaga.

SHEEESH!


Sponge Bob DeSquared Pants have the worse effin taste. Any grown man in their 40's wearing those stupid b-boy baggy jeans doesn't get the right to judge fashion, I'm sorry. They just looked silly.


Sure its cheap, tacky, too short and too shiny. But this is LADY GAGA people. It LOOKED like a Lady Gaga costume.

Lady Gaga would slap you across the face twice for suggesting she would ever even wipe her ass with that outfit much less wear it as a costume.


Even thought they had no credibility, this episode still made me angry! What a waste of a hour.


Joe J.
1/7/10 5:25 PM
said

"I wish Marilyn had been given the option to drop Coco for Tressa. Jesus, I wanted to backhand her."

Now, THAT would make this show interesting...the designers get to pick their experts every week, like how the PR designers can change models...that would be very cool.

Maybe DJ means something else other than "disk jockey?" "Diminutive jockey" maybe? Is he short? Could explain how he never heard of Lady Gaga.


bitchybitchybitchy

Oh, and one other thing, Coco-

I channeled Coco Chanel's spirit last night, and she wants her nickname back, bitch!


Shania Sprain

Ok sixgables, so if you admit Marilyn had no real fashion references but was still supposed to be the "designer," why isn't SHE the one you think should have "used her words"?And yes, of course you can picture a dress from that description, and as others have pointed out they had a PILE of sketches, none of which Marilyn liked. People are only seeing what they want to see, I think. Coco pulled those sketches out like 8 times. The fact is, if you do actually sew beyond a home level, you know that translating that rough idea/sketch often almost becomes a stitch-by-stitch decision-making process (yes, that's an exaggeration, but my point is that it is deceptively involved). Perhaps Coco should have just gone ahead and made some of these decisions for her, but do you think Marilyn would have been happy with that? She complained about everything Coco said, suggested, and did, but again, Coco had to do all the work!!! She did kinda just shut down at the end, I'll give you that, but it's not like anything would've pleased Marilyn anyway unless they WON. I'm guessing if that had happened, Coco would've gotten zero credit. Marilyn totally DID have a manager personality, but none if the other "designers" seemed to. Do you think it's a coincidence then that the only expert to be talked down to like a child was the only one who got sick of her know-nothing "boss" and just checked out? Doubtful.


I am sad to see Marilyn go, but THANK GOD Coco is off my television.

I spent the entire show last night bitching about how awful she was. I watch the show with my mother and she seemed concerned at my sheer hatred of this woman. Granted, the Shiraz I was sipping on probably didn't help my desire to have Coco go play in traffic, but still. She's deplorable.

Anyhoodle, the judging was so cracked this week, that the wine was necessary. The only decent thing about DJ Miami Heat's design was the use of the red fabric.

Merle for the win!


My very favorite judging contradiction of THIS episode was then the defined Marilyn's as "looking cheap", then decided (with a level of enthusisam that was stunning) the cheapest looking outfit, made with the cheapest looking fabric, and the cheapest hem length, and the cheapest trims, made with the cheapest, lowest, most base level of taste, they decided to give THAT the win! Come on, the hypocrisy of these judges belongs more on FOX news.

- Donna in Seattle


Ok, thank you. I didn't see much of Eric's dress and thought I must have missed....something. Or rather, everything. Tacky, too short and poor fitting. Seriously?? I will say I liked the red trim at the bottom. In fact, there are a lot of fit issues on this show, yeah? Lots of stuff just plain don't fit and looks like shit because of it. Do you think it's time constraints or the rotating models or....? I loved the Rawls girl's look just because it didn't bag, sag or bunch.

To be fair tho, the challenge was just mystifying. It reminded me of some PR challenges from the last season. Wild card + sunglasses + red vinyl thrown in halfway thru. Since Merle seemed to understand what they wanted so unambiguously, I thought I just was too Ohio to get it. But then again, look at what Merle churned out.


I actually liked the winning outfit, but only after Amanda put it on and rocked it. She MADE that outfit WORK. Plus I think the bookend judges had a Heidi glitter/tight/short moment.

Patrick's colon blowing feather duster should have gone home.


I love some disco, but that silver skanky DJ whatever dress is making me break out in hives all over again looking at the pictures in your post.
This show is silliness squared.


Eric's outfit did fit his "girl" trashy, skanky, hot mess, trainwreck, so it is cohesively UGLY! I cannot however believe that he won over lovely African print/braid dress are you fucking kidding me??? The judging was REDUNKULOUS, they called a couple of fabrics and designs cheap, yet a silver sequin "fabric" pulled from the "trim" room won?


Also Coco wore my nerves when she first passive aggressively attacked Marylin! I hope this is not a reflection of how Coco handles her business, because if it is she's in trouble


P.S. If I was there when LadyGaGa entered I would have shit shoulder pads!


I don't understand the challenges on this show at all. They're supposed to create a line with a consistent vision, yet they're expected to discard that vision to accommodate these ridiculous "inspirations". Shouldn't designers be able to decide for themselves what they are/are not inspired by? I think it would be more appropriate for this show to give challenges that are event based (create something for your customer to wear to...) or materials based (create a garment out of something other than fabric).


I was so sad to see Marilyn go. I loved her style, so when I read your "over-the-top diva" description of her clothes, I laughed and said, "Hm, I guess that fits the look I go for." Love it.

CoCo is a trainwreck from hell and I was shocked by her unprofessional attitude and remarks. Kudos to Marilyn for her handling of the situation (must be her managerial training) and for her grace and "high-road" handling of her undeserved loss, which made the smirking CoCo look even smaller. Marilyn, I really do hope you Launch Your Line someday!

~MDO


I thought this quote today was funny:
Q. Chandra, Reality Wanted: How was your partnership with Coco?
A. Marilyn: Difficult. It was difficult from the first second that I met her. It was not edited to look that way, if anything; it was edited to appear easier.


Coco "shut down in the end"? Really? She threatened to leave every single episode. She was forever "tired" and "risking [her] health." Although, as has been ferreted out my sewing machine IS in my home, so who am I to judge?


I'm so very done with this show, I'm going to just read your recaps for the updates. I was just waiting around for the Lady GaGa appearance, and now that it's over and was lame, I'm out.

Marilyn and Coco are both to blame equally. Marilyn needed to stop being so much a manager and start being a collaborator. Working for her would drive me to drink (more). But Coco also has to quit crying and stop with the passive-aggressive shit. She's too old to get away with that, and you'd think she'd have a tiny bit of concern for her career after the show. I'm sorry, but one moment of classy from Marilyn right at the very end is too little too late. That woman is all business, and she only did it to save face.


Shania Sprain

Sixgables yes, she did only "shut down" at the end. She had her issues throughout, and did what you said, but never really gave up until this episode. Shut down = give up, not "dare to express her feelings." Anyway, my point isn't that Coco is flawless or awesomely mature, just that it's ridiculous for everyone to praise Marilyn to the high heavens for being a "gracious" saint. Coco was dificult, but Marilyn was a bitch. And for the last time, WHO had to do all the actual work? Ok then.


Previously I had watched about 10 minutes of this show before bailing. It was that bad. But last night I found myself with nothing to do and put it on while folding laundry. My god, it was even worse than I remembered. I couldn't make it through the whole show.

Those twins are seriously creepy, disturbing, even. Their little squeaky voices, their teeny bodys, everything, really - I just find them repellant. And what the hell is up with the guy in the matador's costume?

The judges are ridiculous, the "experts" lame, and most of the designs suck. I'm done. Never again, no matter how bored I am. It makes me appreciate PR even more, even the recent lame season.


I'll say right off that I am no expert in reality tv strategy, but if I was going on LML or PR I'd want to get something positive out of it for my career. So -

Even if Coco was 100% justified in being upset, she only succeeded in very publicly shooting herself in the foot. Is her performance on LML going to bring her more work?

Marilyn will be remembered (to the extent any of us will remember this show and not purge it from our memories as an especially unpleasant dream that for some reason we couldn't turn away from) as the one who *did* rise to the occasion at the end and (at least) say the right things. She'll be remembered for *not* throwing her partner under the bus.

Marilyn probably did her reputation some good for being on this show - but Coco trashed hers.

I don't think, in the long run, it matters who did the most work, or who was the most justifiably aggrieved, or who was the bossiest, or who knew the most/least. IMO (if I were Marilyn or Coco) what would matter is showing the world how I could perform under pressure and how I could work with someone who was impossible to work with.

And by that standard, Coco seriously lost.

An interesting contrast is Fancy Man's dealings with Volcano-napping-under-table-dude. And vice versa. They might erupt again next week, but this ep they were harmony itself. (Speaking only of their dealings with each other, not the god awful thing they created).


I really wanted to enjoy this show but they are making it almost impossible..The only explanation for last night's judging was that the judges were all on crack or money or sex was exchanged behind the scenes. There was nothing attractive about the DJ's "dress" (rag) which no self respecting fashion forward woman over 21 would wear. It wasnt even sexy; just sleazy.
I suspect many people are getting alot of enjoyment in vilifying Coco today, but situations are rarely black or white (except in Bravo's skillful editing), and I am sure that Marilyn had her own personality drawbacks.
DJ is still there only because they want to keep some men on the show since the women are clearly by and large, the better designers.
The whole premise is really insulting to designers. How many professions can you really succeed in with just a "vision" and not know any theory or vocabulary. They should at least know how to "sew on a button" for Godsakes.


A little off topic here-but is anyone else bothered by the appearance of the twins? They are not just thin: they are emaciated. It is almost painful to look at them. When nude, they must look like matches.
With designers who emphasize thinness to that extent, no wonder models are held to impossibly thin standards-sigh...


lisa kline reminds me of heidi's " i would wear that" when she says " i wouldn't buy that for MY store".

Coco is wound waaaaay too tightly. I can see the issues with ceo marilyn but jeez coco...have you ever heard the term " team player".

oh, and the disco ball dress is fugly, but everything kind of stunk this week. Wish the Essas were still in it for this one.

zinnia


SusanID, nobody of any note is watching this crap-ass show. Trust. I think it's funny you say people will probably forget how Marilyn "rose above" (what show were you watching?) but Coco's career is ruined because of her behavior LOL. Nobody's career is going to made or broken by this chintzy little D-grade reality castoff. The exaggerated vehemence against Coco is a little astounding (but I guess not really when you consider the way women on this blog usually treat the female "villains" vs everyone else).


Geez anon - as a woman who does protest the way some posters attack some of the women contestants - I was jut calling this one based on Coco's behavior from day one.

FIRST DAY - and I don't think they started a 6 am.... Coco was whining and "I'm tired - what we did is Good Enough" - when Marilyn want to go for the win. So Marilyn says fine *I* will stay all night and come up with something better.
This happened again and again.

This episode - Marilyn shows her fabric after fabric and Coco is No. No. No. No. No. FINALLY Marilyn says "Come on you're not being very cooperative." ANd Coco "hears" "you f'ing B quit being such an ass and add something to the equation!!!"

(Well that would have been what a bunch of other people would have said - Marilyn didn't)


I think you're all missing the point slightly: they were supposed to be designing something for Lady Gaga. It was all too tame.
So I think the right dress won. Even though there was nothing avant garde about it (PR would have nailed it), it was the only one I could actually see Her Gaga-ness wearing.
Think about it, when you see Lady Gaga out and about, isn't your first reaction 'Huh, what the heck is that she's got on!?!`


Anonymous said...

I think you're all missing the point slightly: they were supposed to be designing something for Lady Gaga.


Irony.

No, they weren't designing something for Lady Gaga. They were designing something for their line. Lady Gaga was just a guest star to come in and give them a little pep talk on what constitutes avant garde and to pick out her favorite fabric. Never was it said at any time that they were designing for her or that the outfit was supposed to look like something she would wear.


Just like the last season of PR - it really sucks that the challenges were so convoluted that people are still debating as to what the challenge actually was.


Is it just me or did half of them not incorporate the sunglasses into their looks? And is it just me or did almost NONE of them make an avant-garde look, at all?

The one person I thought would DEFINITELY have won was Sage Girl (Jewelry girl?) and she just got a pass. Team Dandy, once again, should have gone. While I didn't like Team Marilyn much as personalities, I didn't hate their clothes. (which I gotta say, I always thought Marilyn was at fault for her bitchy over-bearing and Coco was just reacting a bit passive-aggressively, but now I realize that Coco was ...well, aggressively passive-aggressive and just making life miserable.) I didn't think this look was any worse than Lou Rawls' daughter's. I may also be biased, but I didn't think Team Merle was that bad, I think they just were trying to create some drama.


I don't work in fashion, but even I could have rocked out numerous avant garde sketch ideas for a deep V neckline front and back, with a tight skirt in front and fuller in back (in about 15 minutes) to help the designer. But then again, I'm a qualified expert in my field used to partnering with CEO's who hire me because of my expertise to plan, re-engage, and execute their vision - no matter how sparse their information. In reviewing Coco's designs on the Internet, IMHO at least 80% of them lack any real sophistication, and she seems much too immature to be a qualified expert. After all of these years of reality TV, how naive of Coco to behave in such a manner knowing Bravo retains full rights to rerun these episodes ad infinitum.


CoCo was obviosly was lacking in skills.


quigley (the cat)

I just have to say that the ONLY reason to keep watching this show is to regard it as Bravo's attempt at the first reality comedy series. And we thought the fashion show was bad. HAH!

I love all the commenters on this thread. I found myself agreeing with EVERYBODY, first those on Marilyn's side, then those defending Coco, then back to Marilyn....

Don't take reality life so seriously!

;-p

JROTFLMFAO!


scott
1/8/10 11:45 AM
Lady Gaga would slap you across the face twice for suggesting she would ever even wipe her ass with that outfit much less wear it as a costume.


Why? Do you know her? I'm looking for a slap!


ricki lake said...


Oh, and the name "Lilly Remarkable" was just fucking stupid. Fin.

1/7/10 7:29 PM

You know what name is even more stupid? Ricki Lake.


I kept waiting for D2 to burst out laughing and start rolling around the floor in giggle spasms after they told CooCoo she was "a great team player"...


Oh, how awful is this?!

http://www.cocokliks.com/images/zoom/fall_2006/6760.html


The people who keep screeching about Coco not drawing anything and are all "zomg I could rock SOOO many avant garde sketches dresses with deep V's in front and back" need to go back and actually watch the fucking show. As many people have pointed out, they DID have a lot of sketches, and Marilyn didn't like any of them!!! But continue to see what you want to see. And I'd be really curious to see these amazing untrained sketches of yours, since you seem to really pay attention to details lol


Anonymous said...
Oh, how awful is this?!

http://www.cocokliks.com/images/zoom/fall_2006/6760.html

1/9/10 8:59 AM


Wow, that IS really fucking awful. Looks like Marilyn designed it.


The cocokliks website has been identified by my security software as an attack site -- one that tries to harvest personal information.

Speaking of passive-aggressive...


"... go back and actually watch the fucking show."

No need to be so nasty about someone else's perspective, Coco - now, go run along and take your nap...


Marilyn was verbally abusive to Coco from the very beginning and didn't treat her as an "employee", but more like a slave dog. Marilyn is lucky she stayed as long as she did. Coco tried to keep her cool so many times, but there is a breaking point. Marilyn just should have swallowed her big egotistical pride and said she was sorry and started treating her like a human being and then maybe things would have turned out differently.


I'd be condenscending to that twit, too.





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