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Madonna for Dolce & Gabbana

Madge says, "You're soaking in it!"


We featured these pics on our Facebook page but we though we'd kick them over to the main arena for discussion. Vanity Fair Italy features Dolce & Gabbana's new spring/summer 2010 campaign featuring Madonna photographed by Steven Klein. Swide had this to say:

"In keeping with Dolce & Gabbana's Spring/Summer 2010 collection's emphasis on Mediterranean heritage and classic Italian sensuality, the mood isn't unlike a film from the days of Italian Neorealism. Madonna herself recalls the strong, raw sensuality of the iconic actress Anna Magnani..."

Okay, maybe that last bit is going too far for us. It's hard to project raw sensuality with so much work evident on your face. And while Madonna never really accomplished the acting career she once planned for herself due to a lack of talent, she always was really good at portraying a character and completing a scene in the medium of photography, creating one iconic image after another over the two-plus decades of her career.

It remains to be seen if these pics are going to reach icon status, but we have to say, these are the best pics we've seen of her in a long time. MUCH better than the ad she did for Louis Vuitton.





Dolce & Gabbana Spring 2010 Collection
Models: Diana Farkhullina, Valeria Dmitrienko, Maryna Linchuk, Ieva Laguna



[Photos: swide.com/style.com]


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116 comments:

Nice clothes, and she looks good, BUT:

1. why is her forehead cropped?

2. why is her mouth open?


O.M.G. She's had her face done...alot! lmao seriously, look at the total new shape of her cheeks, chin and upper lip! It's just...shocking...what's next?


And what is up with the spaghetti picture? She looks like a bulemic who got caught eating with her hands. man, is there nothing this hag won't go for?


i think she is always fab..........


She looks like a wanna-be Deborah Harry.


LOL, they photoshopped her arms!!! She looks good, don't get me wrong,just like Debra Harry. But........not looking like her real self at all. sad..


My goodness! Now she and Cher have exactly the same face!


Wow, she barely looks like herself anymore. If I hadn't know it was Madonna in those photos it would have taken me a moment to place her.

Nice pictures; I just wish that she (and many other female celebs) didn't feel the need to cut their faces into oblivion.


winninghamster

It really annoy me to see someone who very vocally eschews carbs and all other normal foods posing with spaghetti.


I dunno, the clothes and composition of the photos are nice, but her face looks wrong to me. She certainly likes to fall back on the O-face for her poses, doesn't she?


once again - I can't get past her face. It doesn't even look like Madonna. And not in that transformed to another place and time kind of way. More in a dear Lord, what did you do to yourself kind of way.


I think it is funny that she is one of the few people that gets photoshopped to add some fleshiness to her arms. (At least covering the veins.

But seriously while she doesn't look like herself, she doesn't look bad.


"while Madonna never really accomplished the acting career she once planned for herself due to a lack of talent"

Oh, my God, I'm dyin' here.


nice pics, but madge is starting to look WEIRD.
lately she is just annoying me so i will reserve further comment.


Madge says, "You're soaking in it!"

Oh, Boys, I needed that jolt of nostalgia to make me snort with laughter for a moment. Thanks for the giggle in the midst of an endless task here at IP Central.

And, yup, our girl from the University of Michigan dance program back in the 1970s has changed her pan in a major way. Oh well, she's spreading around the wealth.

All the best,

NDC


Not a bad shoot, but I have to agree with other comments, her face looks funny.

It's like she went to her surgeon and said "Sharon Stone's still hot. Make me look like her."


No. She's not even working this round....
Remember this from the glory days: http://www.beautifulmadonna.com/gallery/1995/versace/maisel/index.html


You know, I'm with most of the others here...I would really like these photos....if she actually looked like herself. She has always had such unusual features and such a unique beauty. The combo of plastic surgery and aggressive photoshopping here has made her look like someone else. A very pretty someone else, but someone else all the same.

She's Madonna and I love her. I'm not comfortable with her looking like another person.


yeah! ho! wah!

taken out of context, these pictures are quite beautiful, although i wonder why her mouth is always open.

but yeah, madonna has been irritating and scary for a long time now, and its almost impossible to forget that.


oh...my...that's just........scary.


She has always done her best work in front of the still camera, but (unfortunately) she has crossed the plastic surgery matrix & I don't think there's any going back.

It's sad, really.

--GothamTomato


Madge! Step...away..from...the...Restylane. Please.


Nice pics, but wow! her face.


She's unrecognizable compared to her younger self. It's a shame. I saw a picture of her peer Cyndi Lauper recently. Not only does she look absolutely fab, she also still looks like Cyndi Lauper.

Ladies (and gents) is okay to age.


... like Madonna's washed a dish in the last 30 years....
But seriously, I like her hair in the 1st photo. That's it. Face, nose, everything looks otherworldly. Kinda creepy.


Sorry, everything Madonna does just looks so forced, so faked, so obviously overly-staged in order to achieve a certain look. Yes, she achieved the look and she looks good but as you boys say, ho hum. New plastic surgery, new euro look, but really same old same old.


I don't know... She did fire the trainer that gave her those horrible arms. It's possible that rather than photoshopping and/or having work done on her face, she's just strategically gained some weight. She's always had a broad face with high, wide cheekbones.

I don't want to say she looked "bigger" or "hippy" or anything ridiculous like that, but she DID look fuller in her last red carpet pics. Certainly a far cry from when she was walking around looking like a famine victim because of all that divorce stress.


She's starting to look like Madam the puppet from Waylon and Madam. Scary! The photos are decent, but I can't stop staring at what she has done to her face. That's probably not the intended impact of the piece.


Anyone else think she now looks like Priscilla Presley?


I thought she looked like Heidi Seal's (much older, drug-addled) sister. Maybe it's the hair. Whoever said that thing about Sharon Stone ought to get their own comment section. That cracked me up!


did she actually get work done or did they just photoshop her to death?


She definitely had surgery..just look at the "Nine" New York premiere...eewwwww. I'm sorry, but don't these "stars" see what that surgery does to each other? Are they THAT blind? I think so. Honestly? I'm glad I can't afford it. I'd rather look my age (48) than to look like 'that'.


Anon: "It's possible that . . . she's just strategically gained some weight."

I don't know. In the pictures from the Nine premier, she looks pretty scrawny (plus the shoulders). But she's wearing a different set of lips, so who knows.


Picture two is pure Lourdes. If you'd told me they'd put Lourdes in a wig for that one I wouldn't have been surprised. Love my girl Madge, and think she's looking a million times better since her new face settled in, but damn, she shouldn't be turning into her daughter in pictures.


Someone mentioned earlier that she looks like Debbie Harry in these pics. Yep, only Debbie Harry looks MUCH better.
Somehow I cannot imagine Madonna in the Italian Cucina washing dishes, noshing on pasta and peeling tomatoes or whatever she is doing in the last pic.
Sure, I ALWAYS wear my D&G duds while washing dishes and fixing pasta.
Silly photospread, IMHO.


Feh, I'm done with Madge. Rip Lady Gaga's spread in Elle!


I agree, Madonna's had major, major work done --- both cosmetic and photoshopped. And I was thinking Cher & Deborah Harry when I saw the pics as well. I'm too distracted by Madonna's chameleon-like presence to even notice the clothing, which, btw: looks a bit...youthful. I hate to say what's appropriate for mature women and what's not, but the clothes just don't seem to suit her---face. Nice concept for the shoot and the photography is well done, but it all makes me wonder, if Madonna herself is happy with these images.


- edina -


what did they try to do? whoever was in charge of the concept of this photoshoot should be fired


Her face is looking ... injected, no? I guess she's going for the softer, more feminine look as opposed to the bones and sinew tough girl schtick. It's just that She's.Too.Old. to pull off the young, nubile housewife character. But she's a diva in a league of her own. It's hard not to appreciate what she's managed to accomplish. I'm a fan.


I totally agree with Anonymous @4.47pm, she has had her upper lip filled with collagen and don't get me started with the cheeks. Has anyone punched her on the face on each side? I can barely recognize her. Doesn't she look like Sharon Stone in pic #2?? (Spaghetti pic)


Why is she eating spaghetti with her hands? She has had massive cheek implants. Why can't these people see what the 'others' look like? I.DON'T.GET.IT...


wow...I wouldn't have recognized her if it hadn't been labeled. Amazed also that that skeleton of a woman actually looks sexy and voluptuous in pic 3. I like the set. :)


"Madonna herself recalls the strong, raw sensuality of the iconic actress Anna Magnani..."

What an insult to Anna Magnani. That woman had a face and she could ACT. Madonna looks more like Courteney Cox or Nicole Kiddman now.


When I saw this at first a day or so ago, I didn't read the caption and thought it was an old picture of Bette Midler. Her cheeks are really what's kind of bothering me. I love this shoot though, by far the best shoot she's done in quite a while. I especially love the last photo. She doesn't look like she's trying to be 23 again in that shot.


Anna Magnani she ain't. That's for damn sure.


She looks like a blonde Cher.


All I have to say is that if you ever do "Madonna vs. Anna Magnani", Anna will kick Madge's butt over the Apennines.


Her upper lip is so overdone that I don't think it possible to close her mouth. Hence all the open mouth pictures. Compare her 'new' cheeks to Lourdes' cheeks in the "Nine" premier pics. veeeerrry similar..scary much?


I cannot get past the terrible, awful photoshopping of her legs in the 2nd pic. Seriously, aren't there fashion editors looking at this???


Yes, it's an insult to Anna Magnani. I still can't get that scene out of my head in "Open City" when she ran after the truck and was shot. Gives me the chills to this day.

Now what were we talking about? Oh, right, Madge. Boring. And too much bad plastic surgery. But the lighting on her is good and makes up for much.


They really shouldn't run two photos in a row of her with her mouth hanging open like that... makes her look stupid, not sensual.


wow -- she really does look plastic. her cheekbones are like cher's.

sorry madonna - you should have gone naturally -- or at least not sooo drastically!

yucky! :(


This is just painful to look at. Does she need a team of professionals to help pull that face into a smile?


I think this is alright. The concept is cool. I LOVE Anna Magnani. She made slaving to domesticity look HOT, even if she wasn't exactly pretty. It'd be great to see her in V. vs V., though I don't think she's famous enough. I love, like love love The Golden Coach. LOVE.

HLB


blech.

Momica


Madonna at 51 increasingly looks like Mae West at 75 - the major difference being that, at least on some level, Mae was in on the joke.


honesty.not.pc

Aside from the weird camera angle that cuts off the top of her head. I like the photo's, I think that is a beautiful woman. Just don't tell me its Madge, that person looks nothing like her.


This is going to sound horrible of me but, I always picture "classic Italian sensuality" as younger. Madonna looks like a cougar, she looks like she's trying. "Classic Italian sensuality" to me screams effortlessness and women who KNOW their beautiful, or at least know they're charismatic, she's trying too hard. If her face was different in number 2 however I would really enjoy that photo. The dress the hair and the pose all really work for me, especially in this exposure.


The cheek implants are just too distracting. Love the voluptuous boobs though.


I love the pics and I don't get all the fuzz about her plastic surgeries or whatever. She can't afford not to have them being who she is. She looks pretty for a 50+ woman, imo. I like that look on her


Sylvia Miles: The Younger Years.


WTF is going on in the first picture?? Her head looks HUGE -more like her body is tiny...

Also, the pictorial is a bit boring. Nothing we haven't really seen. If thew wanted italian housewife, they might as well have used Sophia Loren and get kudos from the revival, instead of an overexposed euro-wannabe.


Barely recognizable.

I've heartily disliked Madonna from day one-- she's got no voice, her bubblegum music stinks, the various reincarnations are mere rehash (Harlow-Dietrich-Monroe-whoever), and she's a desperate publicity whore who fancies herself a profound innovator by baring her muff.

Then, she had the chutzpah to remake one of my favorite Lina Wertmuller movies.

She's seemingly made it her life's work to irritate and annoy me.


She looks frightningly bad.


uhg
At this point they should just cut and paste old photos of Madonna to create new adds. The photoshop is rediculous!!
Knowing what WE ALL KNOW about what Madge REALLY looks like, this is the dumbest add campaign I have EVER seen.
Even worse than the Twiggy adds that were just banned in the UK.
FOR GOODNESS SAKE LOOK AT THOSE MANNEQUIN HANDS?!?!?!?!?


Whoever did her cheeks should be struck off the medical register . Madonna has always had such promenant features and (in the last 15 years at least) sunken cheeks so to change her that dramatically is tactless. Maybe she doesn't mind it being so darn obvious Perhaps changing her face is like changing her clothes to her now?
It's sad how lately that kind of surgery amoung women of that age is almost becoming like a status symbol.

Roz


I know we're supposed to be discussing the Madonna photos, but I just can't stop staring in horror at the models from the D&G show D:

The first girl is especially terrifying, she looks like a *child* and is so, so emaciated, even for someone in the admittedly anorexic model culture. If she were wearing different clothes and not on a runway she could be a poster child for UNICEF's Save the Children Fund. Just tragic. :(


Wow-she has had some work done on her face....


I don't think these photos are all that great of her. Like others have mentioned, her mouth is open in every one, wtf? Maybe if she had a different expression on her face in at least one of them. Not to mention all the plumper in her face.


1 - What's wrong with her mouth?

2 - I totally agree with the comment about how she looks like Debbie Harry.

3 - I really like the styling for the shoot. It takes the garments from 'fabulous on the runway' to 'fabulously wearable'.

-dark_blue_mania


This is quite good and 100 times better than the Louis Vuitton campaign.

Some nitpicks:
I get why it is in black and white, but I wish that a couple of them were color just because I think that color was a highlight of the collection;

I wish they pushed the Italian kitschiness more like thicker, more arched eyebrows and more overt sexuality and/or post-war pathos;

Looks more like an editorial than a campaign.


Too bad about the facework. She doesn't look like herself, she looks like any number of Upper East Side matrons you see every dang day. What, the endless workouts and starvation isn't enough? Of course, I suppose in a way she is an Upper East Side matron.

That, and the fact that I don't much care for Dolce & Gabbana, and this is a *shrug* for me.


I'd like to see the rest of the kitchen in color. Especially the faucet on that sink.

I doubt that that's Madonna.


Anonymous
12/17/09 4:47 PM Nice clothes, and she looks good, BUT...

why is her mouth open?


Perhaps the last face lift stretched her face to the point where she can no longer close her mouth. I'm sure she has an assistant to wipe the drool.

a said...

I get why it is in black and white, but I wish that a couple of them were color just because I think that color was a highlight of the collection...


I actually thought the clothes looked better in black and white!


I really like this shoot,(though whatever the face looks like, this is a scene that screams for a brunette). I am made really, really sad by what Madonna looks like now.

Lilyana said...

"I love the pics and I don't get all the fuzz about her plastic surgeries or whatever. She can't afford not to have them being who she is. She looks pretty for a 50+ woman, imo."
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This comment crystalized for me why I'm so sad. See, what kills me is that she CAN afford to look like herself (with or without judicious surgery to keep things a little younger than nature). She's been far more artistically successful than her innate talent might have predicted, she's a wildly successful businesswoman and a huge celebrity (and at least at one time celebrity was important to her) and she's rich enough to do nothing that pays, ever again, and still leave her grandchildren trust funds.

And her appeal, back in the day, was about "look at me, I'm maybe not pretty-pretty, but I'm here, I'm in your face, I can entertain you, and you're not going to forget me." Trite as it sounds, to see her take that and, frankly, get rich off of it, is a terribly empowering message and I loved her for it. Well, that and the dance tunes!

Her current face says just the opposite: I am so insecure about/unsatisfied with who I really am that I will pay buckets to become unrecognizable. Even though neither my income, my celebrity nor my stream of jobs depend on looking like some anonymous cadaver, a once-pretty girl the morticians turned into a waxy-faced nearly unrecognizable replica for the open coffin.


I'm with you, formerlyAnon-- if she can't "afford" the natural patina of age, who can?

Petty vanity, not necessity.


It pains me to say this as a former avid Madonna fan, but she has become a caricature of her former fabulous self. Vanity's a bitch, people!

Ginger


formerlyAnon
12/18/09 11:27 AM ...

GREAT POST


Anon 10:58pm said:

I cannot get past the terrible, awful photoshopping of her legs in the 2nd pic. Seriously, aren't there fashion editors looking at this???

OMG, I hadn't noticed! I was too busy looking at her face. Her legs are so photoshopped, they look like cartoon drawings.

Seriously, this is just laughable.


I am certainly not a defender of plastic surgery and agree that many stars have done more harm than good by going under the knife, injecting toxins in their face and whatnot; but I have seen plenty of stars slammed by celebrity followers / commentators and "regular" people for age related "flaws" like veiny hands, crowsfeet, stomach pooch, cellulite, etc. I am not going to spend my time boohooing over the downside of celebrity life, but I do think many celebs, especially ones who are known for their appearance are in a no win situation. Having said that, I am not opposed to celebs being criticized for getting plastic surgery, because so many of them do it to excess.

While on the subject, I have often wondered about how well the surgeon can gauge whether or not the procedure will produce the desired results, because presumably these stars can afford the best cosmetic surgeons in the world and too often it looks like the job was botched.


..."but I have seen plenty of stars slammed for age related "flaws" like veiny hands, crows feet, stomach pooch, cellulite, etc."

True... but if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

Madonna built her career on being a sexpot, which is why she's now in position she's in. Notice that the public & media don't pick on older women who actually built their careers on talent.


Lisa -
Spot On


Holy photoshopping and airbrushing, Batman! She looks good, but completely unlike her current self.


ACK! would everybody stop referring to veiny hands as either "age-related" or "starvation-related"? Sorry to butt in, but they have NOTHING to do with age or weight. They just are. Those of us with veiny hands (and feet, for that matter) would kind of appreciate it.

Okay - where were we?


formerlyAnon
You expressed that so beautifully.
Right on.


That first photograph is really beautiful - very Cindy Sherman. The other two are not nearly as interesting.


Lisa said...True... but if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

Madonna built her career on being a sexpot, which is why she's now in position she's in. Notice that the public & media don't pick on older women who actually built their careers on talent. 12/18/09 12:51 PM


I agree that Madonna is not the best singer in the world, but to the millions who have bought her albums or gone to her concerts (none of which I am), she is one of the best entertainers of her and other generations. So I think her career trajectory was more about her savvy and being someone that the public was interested in than being a sexpot or yes, being a major talent.

Regardless, unless for some bizarre reason a celebrity made anti-aging comments during their youth, I am not getting the connection between how the live by the sword, die by the sword mantra fits the horrible offense of getting older and therefore allows them to be "picked on."

How does this play out if your singing talent is sub-par - do you not accept the record deal, do you tell people to stop buying your music, do you turn down invitations to big events, decline to appear in magazines or on television? To be sure, Madonna has done and continues to do her share of attention seeking, but there are plenty of celebs or wannabe celebs who have done likewise without the desired results, e.g., record deals, record sales, movie roles, etc.


"I am not getting the connection between how the live by the sword, die by the sword mantra fits the horrible offense of getting older and therefore allows them to be picked on."

First of all, Madonna's appearance is now being picked on not because she's growing old, but mainly because she's getting so much freakish surgery.

But, if the surgery weren't such an irresistable target, I have no doubt that people would poke fun at her wrinkles (if she didn't continually have them plumped and padded).

Her schtick still is-- and has always been-- sex.

The menopausal vamp is a ridiculous spectacle-- which Madonna no doubt realizes herself, which explains the desperate surgical attempts to forestall signs of age.


A - "I am not getting the connection between how the live by the sword, die by the sword mantra fits the horrible offense of getting older and therefore allows them to be picked on."

I agree with most of Lisa's response.
Mine would be: while I liked a few of her songs - her career has had less to do with singing talent and more to do with trying to shock and draw attention to herself and most, if not all, of the time, her appearance. (even more than sex).

The clothes, the dancing being more important than the singing, the (awful trend, she contributed to, of) lip syncing, the sex book, videos, the ridiculing (or whatever) of Catholism, etc. Were about trying to shock.


Another Laura said:
ACK! would everybody stop referring to veiny hands as either "age-related" or "starvation-related"? Sorry to butt in, but they have NOTHING to do with age or weight. They just are. Those of us with veiny hands (and feet, for that matter) would kind of appreciate it.


Actually, age and weight have everything to do with the APPEARANCE of the veins on your hands. The veins become more prominent as you age. A quick google will bring up plenty of information.

I have no idea how old you are, but if you're young and have very veiny hands, I'm sorry to inform you that they WILL look more and more veiny as you age.


Madonna has never been about empowering other women. She has always about exploiting her body and sex appeal to promote herself and only herself. She continues to do this even though she is far from an ingenue. Sad really and hardly a positive example for other women trying to age with grace.
Between the surgery and the working out, there is nothing really soft and sexy about her anymore except those boobs. More and more I have to wonder whether they are fake since the rest of her is so lean.


Madonna has never been about empowering other women. She has always been about exploiting her body and sex appeal to make as much money as she can. She continues to do this even though she is far from being an ingenue at this point in her career. Sad really and a poor example to women her age trying to age with grace.
The only thing sexy or voluptuous about her are her boobs. Which considering how lean she is, may very well be fake. I wonder if she will be posing like this when she is 60.


i'm not dorothy gale

I've been slackjawed with horror looking at these photos, and have read through all the comments.

Formerly Anon, you hit it so eloquently. Despite having the world at her feet the woman is still insecure enough to fight the natural aging process to the extent of making herself nearly unrecognizable.

When I see Madonna now all I can think of is the plastic surgery addict in "Brazil"...


I don't know what you guys are talking about, she looks gorgeous.


i'm not dorothy gale said...
Despite having the world at her feet the woman is still insecure enough to fight the natural aging process to the extent of making herself nearly unrecognizable.


Yeah, because the rest of the world deals with age so well.


Wow! That doesn’t even look like her!


She looks like Lindsay Lohan.


LOVE HER, SHE LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


First reaction was "oh no, Madonna, not again," but I like it.


First of all, Madonna's appearance is now being picked on not because she's growing old, but mainly because she's getting so much freakish surgery.

But, if the surgery weren't such an irresistable target, I have no doubt that people would poke fun at her wrinkles (if she didn't continually have them plumped and padded).

Her schtick still is-- and has always been-- sex.

The menopausal vamp is a ridiculous spectacle-- which Madonna no doubt realizes herself, which explains the desperate surgical attempts to forestall signs of age.

12/18/09 2:25 PM


This is the part of my post that you quoted and responded to with the live by the sword, die by the sword comment: but I have seen plenty of stars slammed for age related "flaws" like veiny hands, crows feet, stomach pooch, cellulite, etc.

My interpretation of your response, and your comment was clearly worded, was that if looks and sexuality were part of what made a star a star, then when she aged it is OK to take swipes at any age related "flaws" like crows feet, thickening waist, wattle, etc. I didn't and still don't get that connection. Furthermore, in my original post I stated that I am not a defender of plastic surgery and am OK with celebs being criticized when they get excessive amounts of plastic surgery.

It seems like any way you slice it, it was a matter of time before Madonna and her kind got their comeuppance. They were either going to get torn down for their plastic surgery or they were going to get torn down for their crows feet and laugh lines.


Perhaps our expectations are not that celebs remain forever young nor their shtick preserved for posterity. My expectation is that they mature and develop other talents as the doors are open to them with their greater wealth and influence. Madge unfortunately continues to be a one-trick pony, to a freakish degree. I don't expect the stripper at 20 to continue her burlesque at 60.


....just another thing she has in common with Michael Jackson....not knowing "when to say when" when it comes to plastic surgery....


My interpretation of your response, and your comment was clearly worded, was that if looks and sexuality were part of what made a star a star, then when she aged it is OK to take swipes at any age related "flaws"....

Sexuality is much more than a 'part' of Madonna's stardom, it's the whole magillah.

If she retired, and acted her age, I rather doubt that people would make snide cracks about her veiny hands and stringy tendons. But, when she continues to behave & dress like a lusty seductress, people naturally cry foul.

Dietrich performed in scanty costumes well into her old age and wasn't mocked; but then again, humping the floor and the mic weren't an integral part of Dietrich's act.


Lisa said...Sexuality is much more than a 'part' of Madonna's stardom, it's the whole magillah.

If she retired, and acted her age, I rather doubt that people would make snide cracks about her veiny hands and stringy tendons. But, when she continues to behave & dress like a lusty seductress, people naturally cry foul.

Dietrich performed in scanty costumes well into her old age and wasn't mocked; but then again, humping the floor and the mic weren't an integral part of Dietrich's act. 12/19/09 8:52 AM


It is interesting that of all people you could reference Marlene Deithrich would come up because actually her story has been at the back of my mind during this discussion. Marlene Dietrich, who like Madonna became a huge star despite not being the most talented singer or actress, did indeed trade on her sexuality and did so well into her sixties. By the standards of her time, which spanned decades, she was scandalous and I would be willing to bet that not everyone applauded a woman in her sixties wearing a peekaboo gown. While a part of me says "you go girl!" another part thinks that that reeks of the same kind of desperation that Sharon Stone and Madonna have been fairly accused of.

However in her last ten or so years, she did actually "retire and act her age" by holing herself up in an apartment in Paris rather than subject the world to her aging visage. Still during this time she remained sharp minded and incurred thousands of dollars in phone bills socializing with friends, conducting business and engaging in political activism phoning the likes of Mikhail Gorbachev. So she was not living in some form Norma Desmond-esque fugue state, she simply did not want to show her aging face to the world.


Madonna was fun yet skanky when she became popular back in the early 80s, but now she seems to me to be not fun, still skanky and a hypochrite. I can't get over how she was quoted as saying Lourdes was not allowed to watch tv, and that she was a strict mom. Ugh....then the faux british accent and her reading books to schoolkids in the UK in a suit that the queen would wear.
She is an out of me....YUCK.
Lourdes is a mini me of madonna and it is probably killing her that she wants to act etc...Lourdes may have the career Madonna couldn't- madonna is a crummy actress.

Oh, and as an adoptive mom who followed all of the RULES of international adoption, it annoys me to no end that she was allowed to bend the rules...twice.
Thanks for the vent, now i feel better.


It always cracks me up when people claim Madonna has 'a fake British accent'. I think some comedian must have made that joke once and now people who, clearly, wouldn't know a British accent if it bit them in the arse, repeat it as if it's true.

She has no British accent, fake or otherwise. She merely learned how to enunciate for the stage and produce her voice through her throat & head instead of her nose - getting rid of her flat midwestern "A's". That's all. Nothing British there in the slightest.

--GothamTomato


"anon said: Lourdes may have the career Madonna couldn't- madonna is a crummy actress.

Oh, and as an adoptive mom who followed all of the RULES of international adoption, it annoys me to no end that she was allowed to bend the rules...twice."




Yeah, poor Madonna - She's had no career at all.

And actually, since the details of adoptions are private, you have no idea whatsoever whether she bent any rules or not.

--GothamTomato


Dietrich was a competent actress (I don't consider acting a difficult skill to master, this isn't high praise) who sang on the side. Her voice had little range, but she knew her limitations.

Of course Dietrich 'traded on her sexuality', as do most actresses; but she was never vulgar, juvenile, or explicit.

Dietrich's dignified lounge singing didn't invite jeers, contempt, and unflattering observations about her age.

Madonna is a poor singer who acts on the side. Her acting is laughably bad and painfully self- conscious.

Her soft-core porn sensibility is the gimmick that made her a star.

Madonna's act doesn't translate into middle age because it's always been focused on one thing alone-- tedious in-your-face sexuality. No one wants to watch a fifty year old woman bumping and grinding and simulating masturbation, except maybe her most doe-hard fans. It invites derisive comments.


P.S. Madonna was in fact affecting a posh Brit accent a few years ago, I heard it with my own ears. But, perhaps she's dropped it since...


I know it's kind of horrid to say this, but, honestly, I'm just done with Madonna. Done, done, done. She bores me now. The work on her face just makes her look sad. I'd rather be looking at Debbie Harry.


Lisa-You said much of what I was trying to express in my post.

thanks.

I just don't care for Madonna.

btw-I thought she was Debbie Harry when I first saw her.


One of the better pics I've seen of the bitch in years.


But c'mon Madge, no matter how wonderful you THINK that you are, you would never be worthy of La Magnani's corset.


Meh, Madonna, whatever...I'm just thrilled y'all solved my mystery of who Rachel McAdams was wearing on the cover of Vogue! (Last dress--LOOOOVE the skirt fabric)


Madonna was very much putting on an English accent when she was married to Guy Ritchie. It was COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. Stage enunciation my big fat arse.

Poster #1: her mouth is open in all the pictures because she's been pulled too tight to close it properly. That, and the quart of collagen that's been injected into her lip.


Boring, boring.

These might have been good if Madonna had aged normally. There's no character in her face and no passion either.

What's so interesting about a woman whose age is indeterminate? She could be 65 for all we know, or care. Again, boring.





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