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Harper's Bazaar Russia: Dita Von Teese

In which we discuss some fabulosity and also say something slightly offensive.

The singular Dita Von Teese did what she does best (dressing up and posing) for the Harper's Bazaar Russia December 2009 issue, photographed by Marcin Tyszka. Let's take a look, shall we?


Elie Saab Fall 2009 Couture Collection



Christian Lacroix Fall 2009 Couture Collection
Model: Vlada Roslyakova



Givenchy Fall 2009 Couture Collection [Dior Fall 2009 Couture/Gaultier Paris]
Model: Mariacarla Boscono



Jean Paul Gaultier Fall 2009 Couture Collection
Model: Magdalena Frackowiak



Jean Paul Gaultier Fall 2009 Couture Collection
Model: Liu Wen



Valentino Fall 2009 Couture Collection [Dior Fall 2009 Couture]
Model: Anna de Rijk


The clothes are gorgeous and perfectly suited for her but something's a little off here. She looks too posey-posey and the shots just aren't as dramatic as the both the clothes and the model require. We think it might be the photographer at fault here because Dita never had a problem having her picture taken before.

Okay, and now the slightly offensive part. We realize that this look is her signature look and she'd be nothing without it, but she's getting awfully close to the date where she's going to age right out of it. You can pull off that retro burlesque thing in your 20s and 30s, but in your 40s? It's gonna have the stink of desperation. She's not there yet, but she's definitely lost the dewy quality she used to have. Don't get us wrong, we're not saying that a woman's desirability ends when the first digit becomes a 4, but it's not always a good idea to be working the same look for over 15 years, especially when it's such a distinct look. We figure the expiration date is somewhere within the next 5 years. After that, she'll be entering Ann Miller territory.


[Images: TheFashionSpot/Tarsha/Style.com]



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107 comments:

In case anybody cares, the editorial is called Angel and Demons. I'm guessing the white clothes are the "angel" and the black ones - "demons"?


She really rocked the Lacroix wedding gown.

As for her look, I guess it's her mask, her way of defying age. Like Mary McFadden. Enough said.


I agree with TLo's assessment. I dig the photo of her sitting on the floor and the full-length Virgen de Guadalupe photo, but she seems to be using the same pose/face in the rest and it all comes off as pretty meh. Killer clothes, though...


I couldn't agree more with you about the offensive part (though I don't think it's really that offensive). I follow her on twitter and every day I just kinda think, how long can she keep it up. SHe's fabulous but I hope she doesn't get to be like Sharon Stone and starts doing things just to prove that she's "still got it" and then ends up looking desperate in the process.

I know she's in love with the 20s-40s era (which I love too) but how long can she really keep up with that look. Oh well, she's been doing it for a long time and I love her but she should enjoy it while it lasts. I just really hope she doesn't go a crazy plastic surgery root to try to keep it up.


I think I understand your comments about DvT aging out of her signature look. It does become harder to pull this off as she moves into the next decade.

She has an opportunity to creat an image/look for herself that shows a powerful, sensual woman once she hits the 4-0. I'm mildly curious as to how she'll handle that.


I hate to say it, but she bored me with this. I'm wondering if it is the photographer, because usually Dita's photos are interesting and beautiful, but I just said "meh" to these.


But regarding the shoot, she does look great but everything seems a bit drab and kinda boring. It may be the photgrapher indeed.


I didn't find your comment offensive at all. I totally agree. I saw an interview with Rod Stewart a while ago where he said that people who try to keep the same persona they did 20 years ago end up becoming a parody of themselves. I think that applies in this case.


OK when I was younger Gyspy was one of my favorite movies. (But I haven't watched it in years.) So I don't think that the 40's are a cut off date if you can work it.


See, I disagree. I think she SHOULD be continuing this look in her 40s, as long as she doesn't start acting desperate, or the face become too much of a mask.

Sure, I'd like to see her update it a bit, but don't mess with it too much or then she becomes desperate, trying to find the next big thing.

Most of the clothes actually look better on her, but yeah, the photoshoot's pretty bland.


I don't find the comment offensive, but I do disagree with it. I don't see anything in particular about how look that requires youth....quite the opposite, actually.


Gotta admit, I did find that pretty offensive of you guys to say. A woman these days not only gets to worry if her style fits her current age, but if her style fits her *anticipated* age--yes, OLDER. Seems like if we're not already old, we're being told how someday we WILL be old, and what people will think of us then. I agree with you that some actresses seem desperate to hit the same look for too many years, but in this case, I think Ditta still looks stunning and appropriate in what she's wearing. I know celebrities don't inspire a lot of confidence in us about the whole aging gracefully thing , but I'd like to give her (and any woman) the benefit of the doubt. She's not the woman she'll be in 5 years, so hold your judgment until you see what she looks like and what she's wearing then. LIVE IN THE NOW.


That should be her look, not "how" look. Oops.


TLO, I wonder what you guys will do when someone says that you guys are too old to watch television for a living?

You guys know I LOVED you from the moment I read you and the fact that you are "Philly" makes me love you but time ticks for everyone.


Love the clothes, but I agree with the photos. I think the problem is that the colors blend into the backgrounds.
Maria


I get the impression that some of the photos look so posed because they are supposed to look more like portraits.


I agree, Scarlet. Some of them even have an icon look to them, like the shot in the doorway where the door design gives her a halo. And the white dress with the flowers and the backing behind the head - very icon.

(Icon as in, the specific religious art)


"In which we discuss some fabulosity and also say something slightly offensive."

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As far as I'm concerned, you can say just about anything you want if you introduce it in the manner of the 19th century novel.

I liked this editorial and I loved her in the Virgen de Guadalupe dress - her hard brunette look just made the dress for me.

As to the age thing - all of us age (*sob*) and I am not sure this look won't go along with Ms. von Teese into her 40's if she modifies a bit to account for age. There've been some slammin' 40-something broads (and to me, this is the look of a "broad") about in the land. For my tastes, she'll have to negotiate softening the look a tad.

But I suspect that when Ms. von Teese decides she's not in love with what she's seeing in the photos she'll do something I can't predict about it. I just hope it's NOT along the lines of Madonna's decisions (who seems to me confused about how best to showcase the effect of extreme physical fitness on a mid-life body.)


I love the Gaultier photo.

re: aging. So far she seems to be aging gracefully so why is this even a issue? Furthermore, I don't see why she couldn't continue to interpret her look as she ages - surely women of a certain age wore something fashionable in the 1920s and 30s.


I agree with Maria...the problem is the set. It dulls the clothes, which are freaking fantastic otherwise. That Lacroix gown pops on the runway - it has a very South American, dramatic vibe that disappears in the photos. Look at the yellow roses on the runway dress compared to those on Dita's version - you barely even notice them.

Same with the other clothes. It's like the photographer was going for "ethereal and romantic" instead of vibrant and theatrical, which is what the wardrobe and model clearly call for.

- Alex

Oddly boring, and I too blame the photographer.


I love the Lacroix Infanta look. I like the Gaultier, too, to my surprise.

I'm not seeing about overworking the look; it seems to be working here. But, then, I haven't seen her that many times. Love the Ann Miller line, though.


Modern burlesque is pretty "different" friendly. She won't age out of the shows themseleves.

But at this point, if she's going to do print she needs the same caliber makeup, lighting, and Photoshopping that a Nadja Auermann or a Linda Evangelista would demand (and, lovely as they are, would require). Before I got to TLo's comment my thoughts were "this ship has sailed."


Jameela said...

TLO, I wonder what you guys will do when someone says that you guys are too old to watch television for a living?


Oh come on. We expected some disagreement but this makes no sense. For one, we're not "making a living" off this blog, much as we wish it were so. For another, we're talking about someone who makes her living entirely off of how she looks, which means discussing her look is fair game.

We're not saying she's too old to be a model or too old to be considered beautiful. We're saying she's GETTING TO BE too old for a look she's been working for 15 years. If we walked around looking exactly as we did in the early '90s, then we would hope that someone would sit us down and have a good talk with us.


Oh jesus, the Lacroix gown with the kokoshnik is unbelievably beautiful. It looks like it came straight out of a coronation portrait.


I think Dita's down to earth and practical enough that we don't have to worry about her trying to dress like a teenager when she's 40. She has said many times that she's found her signature look and will stick with it as it pleases her, but I believe she has enough self awareness to understand what will look good and what won't as time passes.


Anonymous said...

Gotta admit, I did find that pretty offensive of you guys to say. A woman these days not only gets to worry if her style fits her current age, but if her style fits her *anticipated* age--yes, OLDER. Seems like if we're not already old, we're being told how someday we WILL be old, and what people will think of us then.


This wasn't a post written about all women. It was about A woman. A specific woman who has been working the same look for a long time now.


"You can pull off that retro burlesque thing in your 20s and 30s, but in your 40s? It's gonna have the stink of desperation."

So how hard do you have to hold your nose when you look at Madonna?


Strongly agreed on both counts. 1) She's beautiful and the clothes and setting are beautiful, so why aren't these pictures more interesting? There's something lacking, especially around the face. 2) As the fug girls pointed out, when you're young a retro look is fun, but when you start getting older, it makes you look like our grandmas -- long before your time. And DVT is headed that way, if not already there.


suzq said...

So how hard do you have to hold your nose when you look at Madonna?


Pretty damn hard.


I am amazed that Dita has manged to make a career of one look, but I got bored with her look long ago.


TLo said:

Thank you, S. We were hoping someone would translate that for us.


Seriously? In that case, the rest of it says that she once reinvented herself from a blonde to a brunette and keeps getting seduced by new looks and changing herself while always remaining Dita Von Teese. I guess this has some bearing on your "offensive" point, huh?
("S" was me, but I hit the return button too soon.)


Er...what new look would be appropriate for her?

Dita's over-all image is quite timeless. Outside of the performances, she is nothing but lady-like in vintage dresses.

Should she start wearing jeans, ballet flats and frosted lipstick because you're bored with her look?


I'd be offended... except that was my first thought too! When I looked at the LaCroix gown on that young model who had just the right face for it, it was so much more beautifully shown. On Dita it looked like a costume on someone too old for it, someone using clothes to reach for youth and failing.

For the rest, I can't put my finger on what's wrong with the pictures. Most modeling pics are stagy, but I don't usually notice they're stagy. I guess that's the problem - on good pics the work is transparent, and here it's all too evident.


I'm with those who are just not impressed by how the clothes are showcased in these photographs.

As for the aging matter, I must confess that I did not know who she is before I started reading your blogs mentioning her. Therefore, I'm not familiar with her look throughout the years. But it looks like a mask to me. Emotionless. Does she wear the stage make-up in real life? If so, then your point is well-made about her aging. She does seems to have great bone structure.

I always feel sorry for women who are in such denial about growing older that they become like caricatures of their former selves. I'm more impressed by natural beauty growing older, as character on the face is revealed. Tilda Swinton, Meryl Streep, Judi Dench, Vanessa Redgrave, Helen Mirren, to name a few. Obviously Dita is younger than all of them. Perhaps like one poster said, let's live in the now, and see how she presents herself as she grows older. But I wouldn't have guessed she is only 37. My 36-year-old daughter-in-law looks much younger.

Laughing at anon 2:25. DvT doesn't look like ANYONE'S grandma!

MaryLu


honesty.not.pc

Love this! But I do adore Dita. I disagree with you about your slightly offensive comment though :)


I love the pictures. They have a charming artiface about them that is spot on with her image.

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I wish I still looked like I did in the early 90's.


I wasn't agreeing/understanding with the assessment until you said "Ann Miller" - then I got it. That's the thing. Ms. Miller had the figure to keep her look going, but past 60 it was a charicature of something that had been so cool.


Well, it seems like a lot of people have the blues of it being Monday after a long weekend. Touchy, touchy. I love the first picture and it shows just how sexy the back can be. The clothes for the whole shoot are fantastic. She looks amazing and she isn't someone whom I immediately think of when seeing high fashion.

I get what you're trying to say about her look and the fact of aging 'gracefully'. I think her "look" is her trademark but that she'll need to soften the makeup and maybe even the hairstyle while remaining true to herself. The harsh overmade up eyebrows will only age and harden her before her years. It could become a little too Joan Crawford(ish). She certainly has defined herself as a unique and definite personality in a industry full of blond clones trying to stay 25 forever (i.e. Pamela Anderson, Sharon Stone, ect.) It will be interesting to see what she does.


suzq said...

So how hard do you have to hold your nose when you look at Madonna?

TLo said...

Pretty damn hard.




ROFL
those were the words that popped out of my mouth too


Here is DvT at 18, for those curious as to how much artifice she has adopted in her look:
http://the-world-in-focus.com/blog3/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/1133.jpg

It's true that in these photos there is a lack of freshness about her, but it is hard to tell if it is age, makeup, bad lighting or other. To me these shots lack energy.


The thing is DvT is somewhat a character. She has created a persona based on a specific era of time. Would DvT be DvT if she changed character like Madonna?? She would probably be another version of Madonna a la Lady Ga Ga. I like the fact that DvT has rooted herself in a specifc era and I do think she can age through it.


The pics are beautiful, but yeah, they do leave me filled with ennui. I do think the issue is there is a real been there, seen that aura to these photos. She does work the look well, and she is beautiful, but when you've been seeing her for more than a decade working the same or similar clothes with a vintage and lingerie feel to it, the images just can't have the same impact, no wonder how fabulous she, the clothes, the set, and the art of the photography are.

This is probably why the pic I like the best is the one with the sunglasses. The suit is so different from her usual style, with its armorish look and edgy sunglasses.
I also like the Lacroix- almost looks like a Russian icon. appropos, da?


Wow, TLo, completely disagree. She rocks these clothes, far better than the runway models do. Do not get the "aging model" whiff AT ALL. Have never disagreed with you more!


I love this blog. It's fun and exciting for me, sends me to a place of fantasy and imagination, a temporary escape from a personal world that is very far removed from fashion. Sometimes I'm glad I have no clue what you "girls" are writing about; ironically, it often frees me up to sit back and say to myself, what a pretty lady in pretty clothes in pretty pictures. Sometimes that's enough.


The eyebrows have already "crossed into Ann Miller teritory."

How do I know? they make me laugh. And i am sure that is NOT what she was after!


If it's a character, like PeeWee Herman (only less adorable), then fine. If she wants to have a tm after her name forever, that's her right.

If it's fashion...well, my beloved Trynny and Suzannah over at the British What Not To Wear often say that we tend to get trapped wearing the clothes from the time when we felt the most beautiful. For many of us, that's mid-20s. If so trapped, I'd be rocking hammer pants and silk blouses buttoned to the neck with a vintage brooch at my throat and some godawful giant belt. DvT will be rocking Stop Staring dresses. It's not that she'll be too old for the look, just that she'd be clinging to A look for too long.

Batshit crazy and desperate she may be, but Madonna does mix it up now and again.


On further viewing, I have decided I love the Lacroix gown photograph. It looks like it could have walked straight out of the fabulous film Russian Ark.

MaryLu


She looks beautiful as always, but she also looks the same as always.


Let's try that link again. Russian Ark


I know this is completely unrelated but you guys should look up pics of Dorothy Hamill at her appearance on Paula's party. That woman's 51!


I think she's maybe already too old to be modeling that particular wedding dress, but she looks pretty good in the other pieces. I especially like that Madonna/Barbarella number, but if you're over thirty and wearing a dress that looks like it was designed for an eighteen-year-old Russian princess, you're headed into Miss Havisham territory.


Now that I have confirmed that you are forced into breathing through your mouths from time to time...I'll continue with my thoughts on the spread itself--

1. The trowled-on make-up and expressionless face is getting a little tiresome. She looks like a cast member on "New Moon."
Actually, some natural color and a few eye wrinkles would be a welcome addition.

2. Dita is known for her ability to pose her body, yet the only pictures that took advantage of her talents were the first and the sixth (a bit.)

3. I had no idea her legs were so stick thin! Then again, how often does she stand with both knees locked straight like that?

4. She is one of the last of the retro babes to still do a proper half moon on her fingernails. For no other reason than that, I hope she carries on.


I don't get it. Your comments would seem to imply that women in the era Dita prefers looked like hell once they hit 40.
There were woomen in their 40s, 50s and 60s, wearing current clothes in the 20s, 30s and 40s. Some looked fabulous (Katy Hepburn comes to mind), some....not so much.
No reason to think Dita won't continue to look fabulous just because her clothing choices reflect an earlier age.

flory


An infuriating post in many ways... Gorgeous clothes. But I want to wear them, me Me ME! Especially true for that Lacroix.
She's gorgeous and will continue to be as she gets older, but you know actually I agree with the post in some ways, which is a surprise to me!
First of all: By all means she should keep the look if she wants. It's her look, and she rocks it. If it were my I'd start to soften and modify it slightly. Stark black hair does not look great with wrinkles. Highlights, and not-so-sharp edges in the makeup maybe.
I have way too many opinions about this...

-Anon1


I really don't think that "desperate" applies to her. She is a burlesque dancer and model, it's not just her "look." She actually, like, does it...as a job. She's not an actress first, she's a woman of the burlesque first. It would be desperate for like, Demi Moore to try it. But it's her job, not a ploy.


I don't think continuing to do what she does now will make her desperate. If she tries to kick it up a notch and move out of the classic look, then it will become desperate.

If she gets some minor plastic surgery that wouldn't bother me either. The entire point of what she does is to not be realistic, to be somewhat of a doll. It's a "pshaw!" to the concept of natural beauty. You can create your own, and why shouldn't you? That's how I view her, at least.


Love the clothes but not loving the photos. That Lacroix is to die for.


The "angel" pictures are particularly flat. Part of the potency of the angel/demon contrast is the sense of angel and devil, and there's no lightness at all.
She's a beautiful woman, but she needs to figure out how to freshen her schtick.


It will be interesting to see how she progresses her look as she ages. And how long she can continue to make a living in this venue as she does it. I know your comment raises some hackles, especially amongst some of us ladies of certain age, but I think the same applies to men. I am thinking of some people I see from time to time who REALLY got into the swing scene and still dress the part. The problem is, when you are greying...rocking the retro look just makes you look decades older than you really are. It's really only cute for the kiddies.


ugh why does my job block the comments page! Ive been following and dying to chime in since post 4, lol

Ok,
She looked good in the shoot but the starkness to me seemes very russian, imo. Cold, hard, and beautiful.

As for the aging thing, I firstly don't think tlo's comments were offensive, just their personal feelings. Plus they sparked a convo in here, i.e. good work distraction lol.

Dita should be able to modify her look with time and its easier with the retro look than with a modern look because there are so many reference points. Her look is for her job aswell so she will get a pass that say a model or actress wouldn't since their look can and should change.


I really think it is the creative director on this. The direction on it seems faulty. And I think the way her makeup was applied makes her look older. Too matte. I think the dewy makeup is why she looks younger other times.


Anonymous said...

I don't get it. Your comments would seem to imply that women in the era Dita prefers looked like hell once they hit 40.
There were woomen in their 40s, 50s and 60s, wearing current clothes in the 20s, 30s and 40s. Some looked fabulous (Katy Hepburn comes to mind), some....not so much.


I disagree. Her look owes a lot to the 1940s, specifically, young women of the period. This wasn't a look seen on their mothers.

And Katherine Hepburn became an icon precisely because she didn't follow the trends of her day - at any age.


someone needs to tell your slightly offensive advice to Elvira. anyways - I think Dita is so over rated. and she doesn't make a good model.


I've never been a huge fan of DvT and have nothing against her, but just find her whole thing a bit tiresome at times. Personally, I say if she wants to keep her look up through her fifties, sixties and beyond, then good luck and I wish her all the best. But, I do agree very strongly with what some have already posted, that DvT could be in dangerous caricature territory.

The spread was okay --- a bit flat, but just okay. It seemed to lack passion and spark. My faves were the Jean Paul Gaultier (which I saw on his "The Day Before" documentary on Sundance --- pretty fascinating and painstakingly intricate in its construction). Loved the Valentino and thought that this was the one image that really had something. The others, a bit meh and pleasant as Russian couture spreads go.


- edina -


You are 1000% correct about the shaky skills of the photographer: in the photo of DvT under the mirror, on the staircase, the composition is really really amateurish, even awkward, especially the position of her legs, of which you really see only one. Considering that Vogue chose only the best photos to publish, this one image suggests that the entire photographic output was of very low quality, as DvT usually photographs beautifully and understands how to pose to her best advantage.


I can see wondering if this look is going to get old soon (it is a niche look, and that can get tired no matter how well you do it), but I don't get being worried about her getting old. I have no doubt that she can continue to rock a vintage look for well over five years if that's what she decides to do.

Also, why are we worried about that now?


Ehh. I don't know about this one. On one hand, it is good to see her doing her thing at an older age and looking good doing it. Conversely, it is starting to get old, and it looks like all the makeup is just covering up her age.


Anonymous said...
I am thinking of some people I see from time to time who REALLY got into the swing scene and still dress the part. The problem is, when you are greying...rocking the retro look just makes you look decades older than you really are. It's really only cute for the kiddies.

11/30/09 5:37 PM


Because in the 20's, 30's and 40's, there were no old people?


Criticizing how Dita will look in a few years is subjective and could potentially go on ... for years. Let's talk about someone who has already messed up their face trying to hold back time, like Nicole Kidman.


She looks great in the Lacroix dress; really amazing dress.


Didn't find the remark offensive, but don't agree at all. DvT may not have invented New Burlesque but she sure as heck OWNS it. I think she'll be able to keep on what she's doing for many years to come. She's got great fashion sense and I don't see her becoming a parody.


Kylie Minogue used the metallic geometrical small dress during her american tour this past fall .


My first thought was "this is getting tiresome." Nothing to do with her age, just her inability to bring anything new to her look.


Ah.... thank you, guys! You have reminded me of the time I saw THE Ann Miller UP CLOSE IN PERSON, in FULL GET-UP! Blazing eye-shadow, hair flipped to the skies, the whole bit. She was fabulous to see and people could not tear their eyes away. Guess where I saw her, and I swear this is the truth. Are you ready? .... The cosmetics counter at Macy's! Sigh... perfection. Union Square bazonkin' huge Macy's in San Francisco. (Sorry for the long tangent, but I thought it would be OK, since we're talking Ann Miller.)


Would you say the same to Patricia Day?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/patricia day horrorpops/psycohorror/l_b2949432f3764af985e9fa08be54ccbf.jpg?o=39


Meh on most of them, but I really love the bicycle photo. I feel like it captures her beauty the best.


The vintage look is, by its very definition, a classic look. And as such, women can carry it off for as long as they want to. I know women in their 50s who still rock the vintage look. It is elegant and classy and that's all there is to it! And as astonishing as it may seem, Dita dresses like she does BECAUSE SHE LIKES IT! Not because it's trendy. If she didn't dress vintage then she wouldn't be dressing true to herself.

What do you expect a woman to do the moment she hits 40? Go around in tracksuit?

Maybe you want to have a word with Tempest Storm and tell her how to dress and how she shouldn't do burlesque anymore, despite being a burlesque legend. Oh wait, she probably doesn't care. And nor, I'm sure, does Dita.


Ok I don't look like Dita (Sadly) but I'm a woman in her 40's that still wears clothes from the 50's not because it's fashion, not cos I think I'm a teenager, or I'm trying to be quirky but cos I like them!

Jeez really, people don't all wear what they are told to, whether in their 20's, 30's 40's or 50's. Some people wear what they want whether the stylists or fashionistas like it or not. It's called personal style and honestly I don't think Dita would give a damn whether people thinks she should change at a certain age. She will have had people thinking that she should dress different for years, I certainly have!

Get a grip, you'll all be 40 one day and believe me, you won't all start wearing tweed suddenly!


I could be even more offensive with my first thought when I saw the close-up: she's getting a little long in the tooth.

But, I love her and she's a smart & creative cookie. I think she'll come up with something else soon.


Helen Highwater ~ too funny~ and brilliant for citing Tempest Storm.

You really made me smile.

I've actually gone with a different angle on this in todays blog as I was a tad disgruntled
reading this here, yesterday.


terrible modeling. SHE CAN NOT MODEL! maybe she's a great dancer --- but hell no she is not a model. YUCK. She looks aweful. Tyra would so eliminate her.


TLo said... If we walked around looking exactly as we did in the early '90s, then we would hope that someone would sit us down and have a good talk with us.

You have a point! Dwight, the fashion guru on the Real Housewives of Atlanta, said that fashion changes every three months and this change takes six months to filter down t to the public. Dwight also said that you have to constantly update you look to stay on top via haircut or accessories or shoes or...etc.

Other than Rachel Zoe and Cher, I cannot think of anyone else who is rocking the same look they have worn for 15+ years.

TampaBay


TLo said... If we walked around looking exactly as we did in the early '90s, then we would hope that someone would sit us down and have a good talk with us.

You have a point! Dwight, the fashion guru on the Real Housewives of Atlanta, said that fashion changes every three months and this change takes six months to filter down t to the public. Dwight also said that you have to constantly update you look to stay on top via haircut or accessories or shoes or...etc.

Other than Rachel Zoe and Cher, I cannot think of anyone else who is rocking the same look they have worn for 15+ years.

TampaBay


i do love the shot with the valentino and the bicycle


I love it. It's stark and striking and she owns the hell out of those models. DvT's age isn't even a factor to me. She clearly loves what she does and is amazing at it, and I have faith in her ability to continue maintaining her style without battling it.


I guess I just don't know what she could switch to and still look fabulous. I happen to think the vintage look is fairly timeless and classic and therefore entirely appropriate for older women too. What else would she wear or look like?

Now, if Britney is still trying to rock her current looks in 20 years, that certainly would be desperate. But chalk me up to having no fashion sense at all (because I really don't), I just fail to understand how the vintage look doesn't age well. By definition, it's already aged. If anything, I would think she's growing into it.

-- Anun


I guess I just don't know what she could switch to and still look fabulous. I happen to think the vintage look is fairly timeless and classic and therefore entirely appropriate for older women too. What else would she wear or look like?

Now, if Britney is still trying to rock her current looks in 20 years, that certainly would be desperate. But chalk me up to having no fashion sense at all (because I really don't), I just fail to understand how the vintage look doesn't age well. By definition, it's already aged. If anything, I would think she's growing into it.

-- Anun


I guarantee we will see that silver bodysuit on Beyonce. sigh. It's only a matter of time.


You're right about the photographer. My nephew would have done a better job.

Considering the 1930s-40s had more female stars who were of the age range she's in and about to enter, I think it'd still be possible for DvT to hold onto the retro look in an age-appropriate way. The only problem would be if she tried to hold onto a look appropriate to a 23-year-old. Then, when she's truly too old to pose, she can pull a Garbo and keep people in NYC entertained for decades as they exchange stories of having spotted DvT. That would be awesome.


I don't think the photos are all that horrid. Some do look a little like student work, but the last shot, where there is a very direct nod to Russian icons, is beautiful. I love the muted colors and the dress and headpiece acting as the riza (tin/metal covering over an icon). And props to AnonAgain for linking to Russian Ark! Love that film.


I think the Lacroix gown screams "Virgin Mary vision as seen by the peasant in the field".
Too much 12th century with Spanish Mantilla overtones. Uck.


i think shes beautiful enough to withstand a new hairdo and some softer make-up. its okay to re-invent.


The whole point of burlesque is looking like how you want to look and owning your own beauty and sexuality. Classic burlesque featured dancers in their 70's rockin' the same acts/looks they had since their 20's. There will always be naysayers who think that once women reach a "certain age" they should trade Bettie Page for Carolina Herrera, but I hope most women have the confidence to choose the looks that they like and change them (or not) as they please. If being yourself is desperate, then three cheers for desperate women!


I sort of agree about the ageing thing, but I still love looking at her pictures and probably will for some time, partly because I love her choices and know what to expect. However, having seen that picture of her at 18 and reading someone's comment about how ageing dyed black hair is, I suddenly thought: 'how exciting would it be if she went back to blonde?' She could carry on with her 'look' probably knock off a few years and shake it up a bit. I don't think it would be selling out because it's her natural colouring. Just some thoughts.
Maybe the stilted look in the pictures is down to air brushing?


In a couple of the shots, she's starting to throw off a Marlene Dietrich vibe. She can continue in that vein through her 40's -- just do the 1920's-1940's from a European war-time, Murder on the Orient Express look Casablanca look. Not a lot of dewy-eyed-ness going on there, then.


EspeciallyGay

I love her!


I like her in the Lacroix, but that's about it.


Gorgeous!


I liked that silver Gaultier way better in the graffiti spread.


As a woman who is about to turn 40 (*sigh*) I couldn't agree with you more. I think there is something to be said for aging gracefully and showing that you can be sexy and beautiful but looking like a sexy and beautiful 40 year old. Not someone desperately trying to look 25 still.

It would have been offensive or age-ist if you had implied that a woman with a 4 as the first digit couldn't be sexy. You didn't you. You are good!!! : )


I disagree- and would like to add that people have been saying this very thing about her almost since her act took off and became successful.

In my opinion, the criticism comes off more than a little shady. Anyone who follows this blog knows how many times TLO has covered Dita's appearances and have placed her firmly in the "IN" category. The reason shouldn't have to be spelled out, but here we go:

Dita's "retro burlesque" look is comprised of only three things: Pale skin, red lips, black hair. For anyone to say these characteristics look desperate on a woman over 40 sounds...again, shady.

What people really have a problem with is a woman over 40 showing off her body for a living...and receiving acclaim for it. The majority of these people had beef with her over the same thing when she was in her 30's and some of these people couldn't stand it when she was in her 20's.

IMHO, she's fabulous not because of her signature "look", but because she's able to take modern and vintage elements and create a space/identity where she's obviously most herself and happiest.

That's the very definition of good style and that never has an expiration date.

P.S. TLO, Check out video previews of her latest show "The Opium Den" and if you have the time, maybe even review the looks like you've done with her before? I, for one, still see quite a bit of "dew" there lol.


I absolutely HATE it when "expiration dates" are applied to women. Ugh.


We hate when people respond not to what we wrote, but what they think we wrote.


Love you two to death and I usually agree...but... as a woman to has moved in to the 4+ catagory, I hate the idea of an expiration date and Ms. Von Teese is not near one anyway. I don't know any woman of any age that looks like that.I think she looks great. I do agree that looks should change with age (I really do not need to see Madonna in underwear anymore or Valerie Bertinelli in a mini dress), but I think Ms. Dita is doing just fine.


While I think a retro vibe is pretty ageless, my concern is that her overall persona could veer towards Norma Desmond territory one day if she's not careful...


I was briefly aquainted with Dita while she was dating M. Manson, and found her personality to be incredibly boring, but clothing and makeup to be flawless... she had to do SOMETHING to cover up that paper bag personality, you know? Whilst wrapped in dead foxes, satin and lace, she stood there like a mannequin, but nothing more. I believe the photographer is NOT at fault here. It's the makeup, the photoshopping and the eating disorder. Her eyebrows are very dark, which hardens her face, aging it a bit. The sunken-in cheek bones and darker lipstick also add to the age. The weird gray-ish filter over all of the pictures aren't exactly age minimizing. She needs to gain weight in her face, to round it out a bit. It will puff out the gaunt features and add more of a youthful look. There's a time in one's life where they must brighten up their makeup a bit.. where dark lipstick just ain't cuttin' it like it did in your goth days when you hung out at shopping malls.





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