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Team Salt and Pepper

Color us disappointed, poodles.


We thought these two were going to make an interesting team. They both have talent and strong points of view and we were curious to see what they'd come up with. Turns out?

Model: Lisa Blades

Not much.


Don't get us wrong. It's cute; it's appropriately beachy; it's well made. The problem is it's just so ... sans style, y'know? The little bubble hem is nice, the pleating in the bust is too, but... we don't know, it just leaves us disappointed. It's like they both have such strong points of view that, rather than find a way to blend them, they both put them aside just to bang out something to get them through the challenge.

When we saw the work in progress, we thought "Oh, how cute.That bikini top looks just like something they would put together." Kinda sharp and bold; kinda retro."

But then they did this weird half cover-up and never showed the bikini top at all except through the strangely small bust.

Like we said, it's okay. It's just a little disappointingly bland.

Model: Tanisha Harper

Y'know, it's a great looking dress. It really is.

But it's so aggressively NOT avant garde in any way that we almost feel they should have been called on it.

There is quite literally nothing about this dress that hasn't been done a million times before on a million other dresses, from the bodice made out of zippers to the asymmetrical ruffled skirt.


Kudos to them, because it looks like a lot of work and it's pretty much flawlessly executed, but SO not avant garde. We had troubles with almost every other avant garde entry but in most other cases, we can at least say that they tried to do something a little off the beaten path. This is pure beaten path all the way. Cute, but so done. And that's not what one should be saying about a look that's supposed to be avant garde.

These two were apparently a bad match as a team. They got the work done without any drama, but the end results were bland.


Tim Gunn's Workroom Critique:


[Photos: Mike Yarish/myLifetime.com - Video: myLifetime.com - Screencaps: Projectrungay.blogspot.com]



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63 comments:

I didn't even remember their beach dress. And regards the Avante garde look, can you say Geena Davis?


I was also disapointed by these two looks. I loved that bikini top at first. If I had a models body, I would wear that without hesitation.

Where has the Duchess been?


Yeah, what's up with the busts this season? It seems like the designers are trying to keep the models' girls from ever talking to or even seeing each other. It just doesn't look natural. I know models are usually small-busted but still...


When I saw the bikini top on the dress form, I was so excited. I thought it was SO cute. But when it hit the runway I was extremely disappointed to see that it was so overwhelmed by the cover up. The combination is cute, I love the color scheme, but it was just a no all around.


The whole don't-show-the-bathing suit is really weird. Most of the teams had a bathing suit, why didn't we see them? Was it a producer decision for some reason? Is Lifetime super Modest?


I thought the beach look was fab (with a lower case f). It fit the challenge perfectly and was executed flawlessly in a short amount of time with a just a tiny bit of money. The AG look was a FAILURE (with a capitol FAILURE). Middle of the pack, whatever. This episode was sucky. Why didn't we see any baithing suits? Did Tim go around the workroom and tell everyone that it was all about the cover-ups? I don't mind the production being so heavy handed in the early episodes you know, but, the editing was wonky. I couldn't understand what was going on.


That first dress was really, really weird looking, and I thought it looked completely Louise.

If they had stuck with the same pattern as the bikini top, it could've been a real contender.

As for the dress..enhh..Jerrell made the same one last year. Pretty, but not avant garde.

I'm telling ya, they should ditch those AG challenges altogether.


Gorgeous Things, I made a reference to Demi from the '89 Oscars on my recap. They're only missing biker shorts.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/090217/demi-moore_l.jpg

D-d-d-dated


Cute but boring, you nailed it.


As much as I hate to admit it, the avant garde challenges are usually a waste of time. With this season, the time to try avant garde has passed, especially with the loss of the two overtly "conceptual" designers in the first two episodes.

What the show wants are designers that can provide high fashion & retailable fashion, all in perfect construction and with at least the smallest notion of "point of view" - and they want this proven in an extremely tight time period under enormous pressure from competing and being on camera all the time.

Which is not to say that these contestants shouldn't deliver. On PR, you are contestant first, designer second. That means you follow the rules, try and get screen time, and try to establish yourself and your designs as the one to watch. It means you have to work, and work hard. And if you should be there - if you've got the stuff, the capability, the design and construction strength - then you usually are, at least for a stretch.

But these avant garde challenges are useless nearly to the point of ridiculousness. They hardly ever yield anything remotely avant garde. At most, the designers deliver a bunch of dresses overly designed to the point of obnoxiousness. It becomes a runway show of giant ball gowns and outfit pairings that don't work and aren't avant garde (think Rami and Sweet Pea's draped dress with pants - I went through that phase right after I stopped wearing tights under my denim shorts).

Maybe it's because that conceptual, sort of kooky is driven out of the designers early on. They witness Malvin and Ari get it for being too wacky, so when it comes to an avant garde challenge, safer is better. And that's usually true for PR. While it's easy for us watching to differentiate between a challenge that calls for weird and a challenge that so clearly doesn't, to a designer, it all just means moving on or being aufed.

Which is why a reality show, even one as great as Project Runway, is rarely going to deliver anything truly and astonishingly avant garde. They should just come up with another term when they want them to do something out of the ordinary.

"Designers, you will be creating your outfit after taking two hits of acid. You must allow for the gel tab to dissolve before beginning to sketch."

How LA would that be? They could bring Lindsay Lohan back.


I really thought these two would knock it out of the park, especialy when I saw the really cute bathing suit top. Then they COVERED IT UP?? WTH???
Sure, their designs were executed very well, but in the end, done before, boring and the black flamenco number definitely not in any way AG.


Something just does not hang together about the way this challenge was presented. Clearly people were doing swim suits -- we SAW them in the workroom and partly visible in most of the runway looks -- yet not a single model doffed the coverup/tunic/skirt/whatever on the runway to show off the swim suit underneath . At least, not that we saw.

Did we miss something here? How likely is it that the judges wouldn't ask to see the swim suits? Nina ALWAYS asks to see the garment underneath or for the model to take off the jacket/ cape/shrug thingy. Did she just shut up here or was that whole "Let's see the swimsuit, please" part just completely edited out?

I think the swim suits WERE shown (possibly as a flourish at the end of the runway walk) and we got totally gypped out of seeing it.

So my question is, "Why?"


why did NO ONE show the swimwear they made? It seems like several teams made swimwear/coverups and then never revealed them.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if Mitchell's 'swimsuit' was one rectangle of fabric tied across the boobs and one rectangle of fabric tied on like a diaper, but there were probably some very nice pieces under some of those other dresses.


I liked the second dress a lot, not my style but I think Tanisha made it a lot more interesting working that runway like her rent depended on that walk.


"Designers, you will be creating your outfit after taking two hits of acid. You must allow for the gel tab to dissolve before beginning to sketch."

hee,hee. Now we're talking.

Great suggestion, Emily.


Ginger said: Now I wouldn't be surprised if Mitchell's 'swimsuit' was one rectangle of fabric tied across the boobs and one rectangle of fabric tied on like a diaper, but there were probably some very nice pieces under some of those other dresses.

I don't know. That seems like a lot of work for Mitchell.

I think they were doomed from the start. When Althea chose Louise, it seemed like she didn't know Louise's name. Does she even pay attention? And Louise appears to be living in her own world.

The beachy dress was cute but bleh. I love bubble skirts, but even that didn't interest me. The AG look has indeed been done a gazillion times before. AJ is right. It's Demi Moore sans biker shorts. It looked stupid then and it looks stupid now.

On a good note, at least they weren't fighting. So there's that.


I thought the black and white two-piece swimsuit was the best on the runway. They made a huge mistake by leaving the unremarkable (but not dreadful either) cover-up dress
on.

The Avant-garde looks like it on a higher level of construction and complexity than many of the others (including the win). The should have done something with the color to suggest "beach" or "surf" like irridecent conche shell or the inside of a oyster.

There must have been some sort of trick to keep most of the teams from showing the swimsuit. Like maybe the winning team was sooo bad that they couldn't allow us to see it and still have a semi-believable win.


Sorrym but it seems that Tim has been giving some dubious advice.

TLO like the bathing suit top. Sixgables writes "Most of the teams had a bathing suit, why didn't we see them? "

But in the extended judging Tim criticized it when Althea wanted to uncover the bikini top.

Others have also posted - gently - even worrying that it would be considered blasphemous - some criticism of Tim's comments.

I can't find my previous post where I quote Tim, but when Tim was with Santino in the work room he referred to his fabrics and work as gorgeous and elegant??

While TLO posted this about the fabric And it was rendered in that same cheap and tacky looking fabric.


How does that bubble dress even stay up? Is it attached to the bikini top in some way? Weird.


I feel like Althea has a problem making busts big enough.


Yeah, I'd be interested to kind of pin down what avante garde really is in fashion.

Theater for example (which is my background) has some avant garde stuff, but the avant garde also suffers from a repetition of tropes that were considered avant garde in 1910.

Where's fashion at? What's avant garde really mean these days? Anyone?


Ginger said...
"why did NO ONE show the swimwear they made? It seems like several teams made swimwear/coverups and then never revealed them."

and Sewing Siren said:
"There must have been some sort of trick to keep most of the teams from showing the swimsuit. Like maybe the winning team was sooo bad that they couldn't allow us to see it and still have a semi-believable win.

9/9/09 10:43 AM

This issue continues to annoy me, especially since Nina Garcia NEVER lets anything get by her. I do think that they were shown (possibly on part of the runway walk that was edited out).

Possibly what happened here is that there was so much ground to cover that we got an episode of The Fashion Show -- too much to do in too little time. I think they ran into this problem because this is the beginning of the season and there were FOURTEEN designers to be given camera time at this stage of the competition, not to mention the additional avant guarde looks to squeeze in, so the tight editing required to stuff this episode into one hour gives us a truncated and somewhat disjointed story.

Had the producers taken the time to show us footage of the swimsuits, it would have come at the sacrifice of the sacrosanct Tim Time and the [already minimized] happy, colorful, sensuous flurry of creative action at Mood fabrics. I think they had to make tough choices about what to include and what to cut out and chose to leave in the de rigueur "PR junkie comfort food" scenes.

Considering everything this unwieldy episode was trying to accomplish, the producers did a good job with it, although even just a momentary look-see at each full swimsuit would have been nice.


What exactly is avant garde? What makes one outfit avante garde and another one not? My untrained eye cannot tell the difference. Maybe a lesson, that only TLo can do, in avant garde is in order.


I'm loosing track of the teams - Shirin and Carol? showed the red bikini, right? So one?


Not only was that not avant garde, it also bore no relation whatsoever to the challenge in hand - in that it was not surfwear, nor inspired by surfwear, nor inspired by the sea. They should have been called up on it.

I think doing an avant garde challenge is a great way of testing a designer's knowledge and understanding of fashion in general. Designers have to a) demonstrate that they know what avant garde means and b)an understanding of what's being done by other contemporary designers so they can appear experimental and ahead of the pack.

Team S&P failed miserably on both counts and showed themselves to be just (extremely) competent dressmakers.


@ginger LOL @work
EMBARASSING!


ASK said:

"I can't find my previous post where I quote Tim, but when Tim was with Santino in the work room he referred to his fabrics and work as gorgeous and elegant??

While TLO posted this about the fabric And it was rendered in that same cheap and tacky looking fabric."


9/9/09 10:44 AM

The fabrics sometimes do kinda look like crap on the tv box.

I think something in lost in translation to film and we shouldn't be so quick to trash the designer's judgment and taste level regarding his or her fabric selection. I'm guilty of trashing Santino's fabric choice as well, and plenty of people thought Jeffrey's sequinned fabric was ugly even though Tim raved about it when HE saw it.

Tim isn't one to outright lie about the attractiveness of a fabric or to blow smoke up somebody's ass. He has an entire arsenal of diplomatic comments for when something is ugly and has no compunction in questioning fabric or color choices in the earlier stages of construction. Moreover, he always subtly signals a negative opinion when the garment is too far along to salvage ("Well, I can see you have a lot of work to do.") When Tim exclaims about how lovely a fabric is, he seems genuinely pleased. So I'm pretty certain the true attractiveness and elegance of these fabrics probably isn't coming through on the tv box.

Case in point: When I order fabrics from my favorite online fabric stores because the images are SO beautiful, I'm nonetheless always astonished at how much better and beautiful they are in the flesh when they arrive.


Emily said, "As much as I hate to admit it, the avant garde challenges are usually a waste of time. "


I don't think one sets out to make an avant garde outfit, as if it's interchangeable with a style of clothing (make a skating costume, make a wedding gown), or a method (make something out of leaves and flowers, make something out of recycled paper). It's not interchangeable. Something is avant garde, because the designer has a particular kind of vision that will come through whether they're making a skating costume, a wedding gown, or using leaves and flowers or recycled paper. And then others will look at it and say it's avant garde. Or they won't.


Many said, "why didn't we see the swimsuits?"

I think what we have here is SwimSuitgate. There must be someone who can has the inside poop on this. What happened to the swimsuits?


MouseAnony - but my point wasn't specifically about whether the fabric looked the same on the screen, but that I think Tim has been making some - um odd - comments or giving less than perfect advice.


I think Team S&P failed on the avant garde look (although I rather liked the bodice), but did far better on the swimwear inspired look than just about everyone else. It's very retro, very swimwear. When you see it you think, okay, that belongs on the beach. That's better than just about every other design.

I think that the designers not choosing to show the swimsuits was probably a result of miscommunication. Tim directed them to do one thing while the judges judged them on an altogether different set of criteria. It's happened before on this show and it'll probably happen again.


In the extended critique, Althea did all the talking and Louise hung back - reluctantly. I see Louise's hand in that bathing suit top, for it has a retro feel to it. But it had no bottom! Weird. The pink dress pulled down to resemble shorts was even weirder.

I suspect that Althea steamrollered over Louise, who I think is the more creatively talented of the two. Should be an interesting show tonight.


I love Louise, so I was disappointed not to see more of her style in these clothes.

The "avant garde" look seemed like a failure to me because it didn't seem inspired by the surf look. The two pieces didn't look like they belonged together. Completely ignoring for the moment the fact that the avant garde look wasn't "out there" enough, it didn't have any surf elements or even the same color scheme as that boring bubble dress.

If that retro bathing suit top had been paired with shorts or a skirt, it might well have moved them up to the top.


BROOKLYN: EXACTLY!! finally, someone nailed the 'avant garde' thing down.


It's only Wednesday! I hate that PR is on Thursday now. Oh well, rant over. Rant about viewing timetables anyway.

I tend to think that Althea designed the bodice to the coverup, as the breasts are completely out there. The coverup could have been so cute if it were wearable sans bikini top.

If she's going to continue to use guitar picks as cups, she should get a model with a smaller bustline.


The shoes: FAB!


ASK, I think you may be misunderstanding Tim's workroom comments in this challenge. I initially did too, and it took me two viewings of Tim's extended commentary to get that "aha-ski" moment.

In this team's effort, Tim complimented them on having the maroon cover-up showing the the upper edge of the swimsuit peeking out. They then demonstrated how the model would drop the purple part down to convert into a skirt at the end of the runway to show a bare abdomen look with the swimsuit top fully exposed. Tim didn't discourage them from doing that -- he just deflected any further converstation about the garment. He said they already had a beautifully innovative and very successful look and strongly urged them to switch their focus and get cracking on the OTHER, barely begun garment.

And Brooklyn Bomber, this would be evidence that "SwimSuitgate" was purely an editorial creation -- a "coverup" fully in keeping with the theme of the challenge. *snicker*


@ Gorgeous Things/AJ/Maura:

I'd say the "Avant Garde" dress is more Beyoncé in Balmain than anything else--or at least, as a more contemporary resemblance:

http://slides.shoppinglifestyle.com/gallery/2009/04/48_BeyonceKnowles.jpg

But how about Beyoncé's recent Deréon Oscar dress being made out of Demi's bike shorts outfit's leftover fabric:

http://www.splendicity.com/styleitless/files/2009/02/beyonce-2009-oscar-awards-krtabacaphotoslive530430-the-81st.jpg

Anyway, I don't know what was up with the judging. I think, though, to make their gown REALLY pop, they should have gone back to the black-and-white stripes. That bodice could have been pleated to form skinny B&W stripes, and have that ruffled train really pop, especially if they paired it with a pop of their pink as a belt or accent on the underskirt.


Surf Look - The bikini top is tres cute, the most interesting thing about the surf look. I don't understand why the bodice of the dress is so skimpy.

Avant Garde - This look is a marvel in execution and fit. It's a nice dress but more costume and not avant garde. It isn't that interesting beyond the impressive execution and fit.


"MouseAnony said...

Case in point: When I order fabrics from my favorite online fabric stores because the images are SO beautiful, I'm nonetheless always astonished at how much better and beautiful they are in the flesh when they arrive."

You're lucky if your fabrics come out better. I've given up looking online for anything other than cotton prints. Too many times I've found stuff that's gorgeous online, crap in person. Where are you shopping? I must know!

I'll also second the comments about seeing the fabrics on TV is nothing like seeing them face-to-face. There are too many elements that can drastically alter the appearance. I imagine the lighting they use is a huge culprit. If you look at the Bryant Park runway compared to PR's studio runway, PR's lighting is much darker.


"The pink dress pulled down to resemble shorts was even weirder."

Was it? Because that was more or less exactly what they were shown. One of the beach ladies had a coverup dress she pulled down to wear as a skirt and then back up over the bikini top's bustline.

This is what I meant by saying that I really do think the designers' beach looks were (overall) based on what they were told was beachwear. If the end result was off (and I don't live on the coast, so I have no idea what's trendy there right now), I'm much more inclined to blame the producers' choices of examples than the designers who used those examples.

That all having been said, there really was nothing avant-garde about that second dress, pretty though it was. I imagine they were in the middle because the outfits were well-made, but not totally in theme with the challenge.


Jules - For the truly spectacular, see emmaonesock.com, whose high-end inventory is constantly changing; plus, free swatches that arrive at lightning speed! Also on my rave list is gorgeousfabrics.com. She posts here as Gorgeous Things and has an advertisement here on the Rungay blog that links to her superior web store. Some very nifty fabrics there as well, and she provides wonderful service.


*Jacob said*: I'd say the "Avant Garde" dress is more Beyoncé in Balmain than anything else--or at least, as a more contemporary resemblance:

http://slides.shoppinglifestyle.com/gallery/2009/04/48_BeyonceKnowles.jpg


Oh, yikes. More contemporary, but just as bad.


Oh, my word, MouseAnony. Fabulous! Thanks for posting these!

BookieBookie


I like the second dress...a little. Both ladies can do better than that.


Hmm. I should have added another fave - Banksville Designer Fabrics in Norwalk, Ct. While they don't have that type of interactive web site, you can pay an annual fee for their swatching service and you get mailed a swatch of every single fabric before they put it out on the floor. Some truly astounding stuff comes through there. They also perform an unusual matching service: if you say "I need something yellow" or send them a fabric swatch, they will swatch you everything they have of that color or that is a good match for your own fabric for a small fee. No other place I know does that.


Definitely Team Been There, Already Done That. Particularly Louise seems locked into a limited set of designs. Her first dress is in her portfolio but with a more contrasting fabric, her pregnancy look also seems to be drawn from her portfolio, and this week's beach cover-up is also similar in color (she seems to love winey red colors) and 1920s style. Where is Nina with a witty statement about seeing it all before?


MouseAnony - Thank you SO much! I've seen the Gorgeous Fabrics advert but never looked but I will definitely check it out, plus the other two places.

I really dig the service Banksville offers. That should come in handy for a lot of people I know. I get a lot of brides where I work who want bizarre colors we don't offer, so that will definitely come in handy!


I can't even get beyond SurfwearGate. The first look may have been heading towards, well, surfwear-inspired clothes and then it just sort of fizzled into really nice, innocuous top and bottom.

What I really didn't like about this episode is the apparent wacked out, ever-changing definitions of what the designers were suppose to be going for.

Surfwear (that was mentioned at the start and then in the judging with Ra'mon) was suppose to be the inspiration. That's *not* the same thing as a broader definition of 'beachwear' as inspiration. If people were going for 'beachwear', there had better be some strong elements of surfwear in the design and the surfwear-inspiration had better be obvious in the winning design (which is the only reason why I thought Ra'mon deserved to win - he actually threw in neoprene into the mix. Which then confused me because if this surfwear inspiration *was* the criteria the judges used, then why not mention it during discussions of why other designs didn't meet this?).

As a viewer at home, I like to be able to participate in the judging by being able to qualify, for myself, if a design actually follows the brief and this episode was all over the place with what the central point was of the first look - surfwear. So right away, I'm a bit POed because I can't figure out what the hell kind of advice Tim is giving to what the judges are actually looking for.

'Avant Garde' is a total waste of time because these people obviously don't *do* avant garde and to toss it into the mix at the last moment is bound to make the challenge even more diluted.

If you're really wanting avant garde, you do what Tim did a couple of seasons ago; you take them to a design museum, show the designers actual examples of avant garde design and *then* let the designers let it sink in and make that the whole challenge.

This whole episode was filled with nice enough clothing but the actual challenge set up is what made me really 'eeeeeeeehhhhh'. Bad production more than bad design in the end.


I wish we'd really had a chance to look at all the bathing suits people did. That would have told us much more about what they can do than half the stuff they sent down the runway.

And good call, Gorgeous Things! Geena Davis, indeed!


Their effort was completely forgettable. I'm glad they were both safe, but I expected more from them.


Hmm, I like the dress better in the video
and it's a cute skirt too

love the bathing suit
it's gorgeous and retro fun
plus the fabric is great
it's fitted well
and I love that they used a zipper on it

the gown is gorgeous and beautifully executed
it wasn't avant garde, but nothing really was (except for team cute's)...
it's like a less tacky balmain
and the zipper treatment looks gorge


That Avant Garde dress looks like something Charo would wear to a funeral.

The bikini top was adorable. What made them drive into the ditch?

--GothamTomato


"Brooklyn Bomber said: I don't think one sets out to make an avant garde outfit, as if it's interchangeable with a style of clothing (make a skating costume, make a wedding gown), or a method (make something out of leaves and flowers, make something out of recycled paper). It's not interchangeable. Something is avant garde, because the designer has a particular kind of vision that will come through whether they're making a skating costume, a wedding gown, or using leaves and flowers or recycled paper. And then others will look at it and say it's avant garde. Or they won't."




Thank you.

--GothamTomato


Vic, Ms Place said... I see Louise's hand in that bathing suit top, for it has a retro feel to it. But it had no bottom! Weird. The pink dress pulled down to resemble shorts was even weirder.

==
Then I see Louise's hand in the bottom as well. It's a 1920's suit. The 20's bottoms blossomed out and went down to the knee. It was probably made of wool, too.

The 1920's was quite a progressive era for beachwear and I think a real turning point in the popularization of surf culture.

Back to the future. The avant garde look should have been a genuine burkhini in sparkly nylon. And Althea could have sold it as a political statement about how women started out revealing themselves around the turn of the last century only to find themselves forced to be covered up in this one.

The problem with this episode is that nobody took the theme and really thought about it conceptually. They were all reactionary sheep.

And to them, avant garde is a showcase for sewing technique and not fashion pushing into the boundaries of art and expression.


I'm actually okay with the beach cover-up thing because it's actually something that could get worn at a beach and then at a beach bar. It's cute and it sounds like it was more versatile and functional than we were allowed to see.

The avant-garde just isn't and isn't related to anything else.

This sounds like it was one of the challenges that was thrown together because the original challenge fell through because of various legal issues relating to the show's transfer to Lifetime. My guess is that it was a surf challenge and then there was to be a second part that was something else that tied in better.

May have explained why Rachel Bilson was the judge--because she's pretty fashion-conscious, but I've never heard of any connection between her and surfing and beachwear.


Ariel - the gown is gorgeous and beautifully executed
it wasn't avant garde, but nothing really was (except for team cute's)...



I finally got a good up close view of the gown... and agree with Ariel's cmts regarding it. It was gorgreous and beautifully executed.


The bathing top is quite cute but it's covered by the dress, shame.

The ruffled dress is very House of Dereon to me. Yuk.


2nd dress is gorgeous! me wants it.


sixgables said...

The whole don't-show-the-bathing suit is really weird. Most of the teams had a bathing suit, why didn't we see them? Was it a producer decision for some reason? Is Lifetime super Modest?



I doubt very much it has anything to do with Lifetime.


Julia-The AG dress-House of Dereon!? Really, looking on their website I see nothing remotely alike.


The beach look is very Louise. I think the cover-up ruined it. Imagine if she had kept the bathing suit top visible and done a skirt in black or the stripe. It would have been striking and also borne a bit of a relationship to the second look, especially if the skirt had a similar silhouette. Or they could have had a jacket or skirt with zippers.

I think the avant garde dress is great--a good idea and well-executed. Too bad that it has no relationship to the first look. The first look sinks the pair for me.

Most of the teams had one designer completely responsible for one of the designs. This is the logical way to do it but with many of the teams it resulted in two disparate and unrelated looks coming down the runway. More continuity in the styling might have helped.

It's too bad that got rid of Lisa. I like her.


Oops, it wasn't Lisa they got rid of, it was gallumphing Erica.





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