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We're a little confused about the judging this week. Alert the media.

Kittens, we have to say, it was entertaining as hell to see Litte Miss Full-Of-Herself get her comeuppance on the runway after the constant trash-talking. All that head-bobbing and self-stroking was getting just a tiny bit annoying.

Still...

Model: Celine Chua

...to be honest, the dress isn't horrible.

Absolutely, the winged skirt is weird and bug-like. We get that. Also, it connects to the bodice weirdly. But on a whole, the rest of the dress isn't awful.

It's, for the most part, well-fitted and he managed to create an interesting print out of the paper.

We even like the little faux spikes on the straps. It was the only thing that had anything to do with the "East Village punk" look that mostly existed in his head.

In fact, everything above the waist is not too bad. Not challenge-winning, by any stretch; in fact, we're not even suggesting he shouldn't have been in the bottom. Flawed, but not a disaster. Still, we can't complain too much because he desperately needed the smackdown. Our only regret is that Nina wasn't there to give it to him. How much more delicious would that have been?

For far more on Peppermint Patty, check out this week's T Lo Awards.

Okay, not to buy into unsupported tinfoil hat theories, but is anyone else thinking the judges have it in for Gordana for some reason?

Is it age? Personal style? Behind-the-scenes-drama? Who knows? But for some reason she doesn't seem to be able to get any attention from the judges except negative attention and her output so far deserves a bit better than that.

Model: Tara Egan

Is this perfect? No, not really. It's a little too boxy and stiff-looking.

Bordering on armor-like, actually.

But it had way too much going for it to have the judges react so badly to it. We don't get it.

Aside from the slight boxiness of it, it's still a pretty cute design and it displays some fairly kickass technical proficiency.

We're not entirely sure who should have been on the bottom this week (although we can think of at least one dress that probably should have been there). There were a relatively high number of interesting, well-executed looks with this challenge. It's almost looked like Gordana (and maybe Nicolas) fell to the bottom by default and the somewhat raw judges over-reacted a bit in their criticism.

Extended Judging:





[Photos: Mike Yarish/myLifetime.com - Videos: myLifetime.com - Screencaps: Projectrungay.blogspot.com]



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You're right, Gordana deserves to receive a bit more positive attention


I don't know what they hated about these two either, the length? They wanted longer dresses this week maybe.
Peppermint Patty's is okay, not a winner. I like the spikes on the shoulders.
Gordina's I could have seen in the top three even . I don't think they like her either. And I don't think Heidi likes her model. Gordina should probably switch models next turn. But I don't think things are looking good for her. She is one of the more talented of the group, it's really a shame.


I liked Gordana's! The pleating showed great techincal skill. Nicolous's "pinstripe" was interested also. Although the cockroach effect was pretty bad.


totally agree...
gordana's dress wasn't bad...

the first dress is very homemade looking and bug looking as many have said...totally amateurish


Okay. Having watched the extended critique of Gordana, I'm more confused than ever. Only Heidi seemed to have major problems with the dress. Zoe was positive/negative, and both Tommy Hilfiger and Eva Longoria Parker seemed really crazy about it. Did Heidi force the hands of the other judges to get Gordana in the bottom three? It's the only explanation I have for this.


I completely agree with you guys - in my own recap I wondered if somehow the judges have it in for Gordana; while her designs haven't been incredibly innovative, her garments have been beautiful and well-made for the most part. This week's dress wasn't a winner, but didn't deserve a place in the bottom.


I disagree that Gordana's is boxy. If you look at the 2nd pic, the close-up, it actually hugs the models body very nicely, and the pleating/stripes also slightly emphasize her (practically non-existent) curves. I think the problem might be that, although she created a great pattern, I wonder if the slightly beige, muted colors washed out under the runway lights.


Tommy's critique of Gordana was all positive so I still don't get why she was even close to the bottom. His critique of her was almost word-for-word what we hear each week for the winners of the challenges so I don't get it either. Unless it's the guiding hand of the producers at work here. Gordana is not the greatest personality in the workroom so she probably provides little oomph for the editors. And I think Nicolas was in the bottom because he was a dick and they expected something to happen on the runway.


TLo, we all know you are totally in and connected with the good folks at PR. Do you have ANY word on when La Nina and the Duchess return? Probably you can't tell us all, but can we get a tiny hint?
Please?


I too, was surprised by the harshly-critical responses to Gordana'a dress, and Nicholases too.

Nicholases dress had an interesting silhouette, and I thought it one of the better ones when I first saw it coming down the runway. It suffers upon closer inspection, but it ain't awful.

Gordanna's WAS impressively crafted, if a bit overwought. I think she suffered for her very virtues in this challenge-- she's such a competent tailor, she disguised the fact that the dress was made of newspaper.

The judges faulted the fact that her dress failed to express the essence of newspaper. Fair critique.

Unfortunately, several that they praised-- Althea's, and Christopher's-- ALSO failed on this score. Both were overdone.

Like no season before, I'm baffled by these judge's decisions.

...Michael and Nina, where are you?


I loved Gordana's dress this week, totally perplexed about her not being in the top three. It was constructed beautifully and very wearable. She should've placed higher than Althea's sheath dress which had an obvious indentation near the the crotch.


Gordana's dress - "Technically proficient" is the right term. This is well-made, but it isn't entrancing or striking the way many others were. On the tv box screen, it didn't have the big "wow" to it, although it might have looked a lot better in person.

Nicholas - He had an interesting idea, but no woman wants to look like a bug molting its skin. Loved the red stripes.


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I think it came down to a lot of people being close in their scores. I can understand a little bit of the mixed reaction to Gordana's. Heidi did have the most negative reaction to it. But she didn't seem to hate it just disappointed with it not being more ambitious or having more visual impact when compared to others. It was clear they were not going to auf her.

On the one hand it's beautifully made and wearable and is probably the best executed outfit. On the other hand there is a certain safeness about what she did. I think that Ramon, Althea and Logan attempted more intricate or more ambitious designs. While Irina, Epperson, Christopher and Shirin had outfits that had more visual impact.

I imagine the scores for her, Shirin, Louise and possible Ramon were very very close. I also imagine they had to give some explanation for her techncially ending up there. Eva said it best. She's not there becuase she made a sucky dress. She's there because they thought 9 others edged her out.

Although I'm also wondering if heidi's score was what made the difference.

Frank


I completely agree...I actually thought Gordana would be in the top since hers was SO well executed and seeing the bigger pictures of Nicolas' I also agree that his really wasn't that bad.

I really hope the judges don't have a grudge against Gordana because I really like what she's done so far AND her personality.


Lisa said:
Like no season before, I'm baffled by these judge's decisions.

I think that Nina Garcia and Michael Kors are more attuned to "talking for the camera" and providing the narrative and analysis we need to understand their critiques and decisions.

The guest judges have been ok on commenting on the garments to the designers, but the give-and-take when the designers are out of the room isn't up to par. We're not learning enough about why they are choosing one garment over the other.

Hopefully this will be remedied when Nina and Michael finally return. They know the drill by heart.


I blame it on Heidi. She was the one bring Gordana down with her critiques because God knows how much taste she has. Everybody else seemed to like the dress, but I guess they just went with Heidi when it came time to pick bottom three. It makes NO SENSE to me. I have noticed that when Nina and Michael aren't there Heidi's opinion tends to prevail.


I also don't get why Jordana's dress was in the bottom 3, but Heidi's remarks about this dress were the crackiest of the week.

I think Nicholas is too young to have experienced true punk (as a boomer think of it) in the East Village. (I doubt he was even born when Sid killed Nancy.) So when he says 'punk', I think he's thinking something different - of just the hints of what's left of it - like the clothes that can be found in 'Trash & Vaudeville', (still hanging on the East Village), where a dress like his would be found - which may be why he said that.

--GothamTomato


LOVED Gordana's. Bottom three?? Color me confused. I also didn't think Peppermint Patty's was that bad. Judges Gone Wild.


"Okay, not to buy into unsupported tinfoil hat theories, but is anyone else thinking the judges have it in for Gordana for some reason?"


Germans vs. Russians. I'm guessing hard feelings over the WWII/Cold War thingy?

I don't get it about Gordana either. She's produced nothing but consistently well-done work only to be ignored like an illegitimate step-child.

I am glad though, that G pulled a little PA move on Heidi by saying that "Oh, I thought the purpose of this challenge was to make something wearable out of something unwearable. My bad!"

I'll be highly pissed if they give her a bullshit auf'ing like they did Johnny.


Gordana actually got a lot of nice comments in the extended judging. they were just hoping for a bit more creativity with the medium, but praised the look overall.

I don't see her in the finals at this point unless she sends a wow look down the runway soon.


I actually, *gulp*, LIKED Nicolas'! Crazy. I really liked those wings... maybe I'm a closeted faux punk as well? Agree that Gordana shouldn't have been in the bottom, but I really didn't like hers. I haven't been behind her designs so far this season... they're good but they're not GREAT. Her designs are very understated and I think that's what gets her in trouble. Something like that isn't going to compare to something that gives drama. I think she needs to step it up or she's going to be going two or three episodes from now!


ahhhhh. What Sewing Siren said... switching her model would definitely help her. However, I really don't think she's going to do it.


Forgot to mention I thought Nicholas' dress definitely deserved to be in the bottom 2. It seemed disjointed and messy. And was to me inferior to all those rated above his in the panel. If he was going for punk where's the edge to it? where's brazeness?

small wonder Hilfinger reacted poorly to it

Frank


I really liked the white bib and stripes on the top part of Nicolas' design.

As for Gordana, I don't get it. I keep thinking of Jeffrey's paper dress. Gordana's wasn't as exciting as his, but wasn't he praised for making something that transcended paper enough to look like a real dress? And then Heidi's disappointed that Gordana's looks like a real outfit? I realize that reactions to this sort of thing are entirely subjective, and that Gordana's didn't have the wow factor of Christopher's or Irina's, but still. It may not have been a winner but it certainly shouldn't have been in the bottom of the heap.


I hated the feather princess' outfit, mainly because of the styling.

Someone just raided the Bluefly leftovers and went wild, didn't they? (Macy's can't be responsible for that shit!)


"...switching her model would definitely help [Gordana]. However, I really don't think she's going to do it."


On the preview for the next episode of "Models of the Runway" (what a snoozefest of a show, I can't believe I'm still watching it), Heidi said that the designers had to choose different models.


How did Gordana do her print? Is it painted (dyed)? Or just folded colored pages from the paper?


^It looks like Gordana used folded paper from the Image section of The Los Angeles Times. It's one of the few sections of the paper that has a full color picture on the front page.


For me, Gordana's dress suffered from the overwhelming busy 'fabric' being the entire dress. The technical aspect of it was terrific but that was a whole lotta '80s ruffled curtain look going on.

And the silhouette wasn't very daring.

Nicholas' dress reminded me vaguely of Adam Ant/very watered down Vivian Westwood pirate. I like the stripes and the bib. Considering how freaked out he seemed most of the episode, I was quite surprised at the eventual outcome. Not bad. Not *great*, but not bad.


Gordana's dress > Louise's dress, Logan's camouflage shift AND Ra'mon's separates. I even liked it better than Irina's coat which took half the skill and wasn't nearly as well made.

Heidi has always been the worst part of the show, IMO. I'm warming to the Dutchess and Nina-prene despite hating them for many seasons. (Remember Nina's scraggly, dried out hair from season 1? I thought, who is this bitch?)

I think there is just a certain amount of crack smoked at PR no matter what network they're at. Wendy Pepper getting to the finals? The crap that is Jeffrey winning? Gordana is getting the stick in favor of lesser designers like bowling bag Ra'mon...


Anonymous 3:05 said:
"Okay, not to buy into unsupported tinfoil hat theories, but is anyone else thinking the judges have it in for Gordana for some reason?"


Germans vs. Russians. I'm guessing hard feelings over the WWII/Cold War thingy?


Great theory, except that Gordana isn't Russian.


gordana's was just plain beautiful and one of my favorites of the week.

i just don't get it... week after week the judges praise someone for one thing ("i love how hard the bodice of christopher's is!!") and then criticize someone else for doing the exact same thing ("nicolas you're dress is too hard and exo-skeleton like. bottom three for you"). i know it's not the exact same technique for those two examples, but still. it's a disturbingly frequent theme now.


Isabella wrote:
"I blame it on Heidi. She was the one bring Gordana down with her critiques because God knows how much taste she has. Everybody else seemed to like the dress, but I guess they just went with Heidi when it came time to pick bottom three. It makes NO SENSE to me. I have noticed that when Nina and Michael aren't there Heidi's opinion tends to prevail."



Well, Heidi is one of the executive producers of the show and at the end of each episode there is a statement that says, "The final outcome is determined by the producers." (which is true of most reality competition shows.)


This is another example of the problem of rotating most of the judging seats and letting Heidi somehow be the head judge.

Her background is being a model, not a designer whose $$ and reputation comes from designing clothes, not an editor whose $$ and reputation comes from knowing what fashion is on trend.

A model makes her $$ by looking good in whatever is put on her and walking. That's it. It would be Walmart jeans or some wacked-out Japanese designer.

She just doesn't have an adequate background to be the most influential judge on that panel.

M'eh. I say let Heidi stay in LA and do the NYC seasons every 2nd year. Let Iman do the NYC when Heidi wants to stay in LA but make sure the show *stays* in NYC.


It doesn't say that at the end of the show; it says the producers have input.

I thought both dresses were bland and inoffensive. Nothing worthy of an auf'ing, but Nicolas shouldn't have mentioned "punk" because it made him look like a poser.


I don't get it either -- whatever the challenge, you can consistently count on Gordana to produce something impeccably made that could walk down any given runway.

I'm a little concerned about the "age" pickup that TLo mentioned. I'd hate to see her overlooked for more mediocre but more photogenic/quoteworthy contestants.

Gordanarelly, Gordanarelly.
Night and day it's Gordanarelly.
Make the fire!
Fix the breakfast!
Wash the dishes! Do the moppin'!

...While the (wicked) stepsisters go to the ball.


Gordana is suffering from lack of JUDGES on this show. We can NOT leave Heidi with stylists and actors, she is too maleable. We NEED Nina and Michael back. As for Nicolas, it wasn't great and the judges didn't fawn over it like they did most of the others. The judging SUCKS so far this season. I CAN"T STAND TO HEAR someone say "that's not punk". If you are the establishment (judges) and you don't like it, it's most likely punk. It's everything and anything, and looking like a cockroach is PERFECT for what he was trying to create. I get him being in the bottom because it wasn't spectacular and the judges just fell over themselves for EVERYBODY except Gordana, Nicolas, and Johnny. I just LOVE his point of view.


"[Heidi] just doesn't have an adequate background to be the most influential judge on that panel."


She has a lot more background than Kelly Rowland does on "The Fashion Show." Plus, she's the host and acts more as a moderator than a judge.


What I can't understand is why Gordana was in the bottom for being too wearable, but Eva Longoria's praise for Althea's mainly consisted of her saying, "I wear this dress all the time." Umm....what? It seemed like the only reason they like Althea's and didn't like Gordana's is that the pattern was obviously complicated, while Gordana made it look easy, and thus they seemed to think she didn't do enough. And is it just me, or was Gordana's better executed? Althea's dress seemed to be inches away from the model at the bust.


in gordana's video blog on the lifetime site, she says that it was eva whose opinion seemed to have the most weight...to which gordana basically responds, "sorry eva, but I didn't have YOU in mind." she also mentions that tim brought her a personal message from tommy hilfiger to tell her how much he liked her dress. very interesting!

http://www.mylifetime.com/on-tv/shows/project-runway/project-runway-designers/gordana-gehlhausen

a.c.


Gordana's biggest problem is that she finished her look too early. Suddenly Ramon, Althea, Logan, and Louise saw how good hers was and said, "I'll do a version of that... With a twist.". When Gordana's walked down the runway it looked like everyone elses design, without a twist. She got shafted for everyone else doing the same things she did. I personally thought Shirin should have been in the bottom instead.


When are we gunna talk about Louise's get up? Because...the hell?


I can't understand how you could go on and on about the exquisite fit of althea's MUSLIN garment, yet critique Gordana's fit which was made entirely out of newspaper. Without a doubt i think gordana put more work into her dress and made it look much more wearable.


^Totally agree, unionjgirl. Gordana's dress was executed perfectly. Althea's dress had an indentation near the crotch that was completely distracting. I can't believe that her dress got a higher score than everyone else's.


Well, somebody had to be in the bottom three with Johnny and Peppermint Patty, and unfortunately that somebody was Gordana. Personally, I thought Louise deserved Gordana's spot, but that's just me.


I liked Gordana's. She apologized because it was wearable? Isn't that the point of manipulating all the newsprint?

Peppermint PAtty deserves to hang on the spit and roast.


I don't see any boxiness at all in Gordana's design. It is fitted to her model and the design and execution are just beautiful. But that's been the case with everything she's turned out, she has been on of the most consistent designers and it's a shame she is getting shafted time and time again. I think the problem may be that she makes all the hard work and attention to detail look easy, and she's not having meltdown or trashing everyone else in the process. I guess drama trumps sewing skill on PR.

I loved Irina's coat, but Gordana deserved to be right up there.


I loved Gordana's design. I was absolutely floored to see her in the bottom three. Nicholas' dress? Arghhh...the only thing "punk" about it is his lame stab at making spikes.


Gordana's work is consistently in my personal top three, so any mention of her going home makes me cry. Maybe the judges took exception to her "Oops, my bad, I thought I was supposed to do what the challenge said, not what you all have in your cracked out little minds" comment.

The coat certainly deserved the win, but this should have been second and Althea's should have been third.

Chris's dress was great, and would have been even greater if the skirt had looked like feathers. As it is, with that bodice, it looked like Joan of Arc rising out of my fall leaf pile.


I don't get it either. I thought Gordana's was passable and not that bad. Nicholas' wasn't a total hot mess, but his attitude did need a smack down.

Me thinks that the producers have something to do with it....


Gordana did not deserve to be in the bottom three. Honestly, the judging this season just sucks. Bring back Nina and the Duchess!


"I think that Nina Garcia and Michael Kors are more attuned to "talking for the camera" and providing the narrative and analysis we need to understand their critiques and decisions."

I don't think it's just that, though that is a contributing factor. I think they simply have better honed skills, and they both seem to have well developed bullsh*t meters.


I didn't hate this dress, but to me it seemed a bit average. There have been other dresses of hers that were middle of the pack that I thought deserved at the very least to be in the top groupings.
The only person I could think to place in the bottom instead of her would be Shirin (or whoever it was that made the big origami cup/vagina dress.)


I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who thought Gordana was better suited for the top three than the bottom three.

Here's my theory for why Heidi seems to have it in for her: Gelhausen is not a Slavic name; it's GERMAN. I think Gordana's father's family is German, and there's some generations-old family feud! (j/k)


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Gordana just shouldn't have been down there. I think if there had been another designer on board, she would not have been down there just because you'd have had two people who understood the construction.

Many of the NY challenges have two designers on the judging panel--Kors and the guest. In the LA challenges, we're barely getting one. ELP wasn't bad as celeb judges go, but on a whacky materials challenge you need a judge's panel with technical know-how. LA is a fashion center--there should have been a designer who could sub in for more than one session for Kors so that there could be some continuity to the judging--besides Heidi, who's okay for a model, but has her limits. She doesn't assess clothes like an editor and she doesn't create them like a designer.


Coco Channel responded to
"[Heidi] just doesn't have an adequate background to be the most influential judge on that panel." with

She has a lot more background than Kelly Rowland does on "The Fashion Show." Plus, she's the host and acts more as a moderator than a judge.

I think the general attitude of the commenters on this blog was 'why is Kelly Rowland even on that show? What's her purpose?' but we're not talking about that tripe, we're talking about *this show*.

And I dunno about just being a 'host' and 'moderator'. My impression is that she has an actual say in the judging and she certainly doesn't seem to hold back her opinions - which neither a host or moderator would voice if they were *just* a host or moderator. She's influencing the decisions and the guest judges. It's just a question of if she's walking all over them or if she's just getting more weight for her opinions. Which wouldn't be so bad if she was actually qualified.

I don't think it's fair game to have revolving judges who are or aren't qualified to actually judge these designers; least of all because the designers never get the advantage of feeling what permanent judges want and acting on their feedback. "Too many cooks spoil the broth" and all that... .


Y'all are right-- the judging sucks. Heidi's never been much more than eye-candy (albeit sensible German eye candy)and these LA stylists and ingenues ain't cutting it. They just haven't the chops of Michael & Nina.

Eva Longeria and Heidi's opinions aren't ridiculous, but they're not particularly insightful either. Not their fault-- they're actresses & models, not fashion industry professionals! And stylists? Fashion consumers, not fashion makers.


I felt terrible when Gordana had to apologize because her worm didn't have enough whimsy costumery. It's newspaper, not candy drops and sunshine.

The whole challenge was a boring beginner's art school project. They need to start making clothes for multiple personality dominatrixes or out of tar or something.


"We're a little confused about the judging this week. Alert the media."

You two are at your most amusing when you deadpan.

Beyond that, amen. Gordana was solid middle of the road, verging, maybe, into top three. Nicolas' wasn't awful, but there wasn't a lot of awful out there this week, so I can see how he slid to the bottom by default.


I was so shocked that Gordana ended up in the bottom three because I was sure that this was, if not the winner, at least in the top three. It really didn't look like paper at all - it looked like a cute, well-fitted dress, totally wearable. The print she created was fab.

She is almost always in my top 3-5 and I am just totally perplexed that she keeps getting overlooked or worse by the judges. I think she's a serious contender for the finals, based on her output so far, but I'm starting to doubt that the judges are going to keep her in much longer.

Maybe the model change next week will work to her advantage. Her model is lovely and has a Kate Moss vibe but she's not a great walker or dynamic presence on the runway. I think there are other girls that could do a better job for Gordana.


Anonymous responded to my previous comment:
"And I dunno about just being a 'host' and 'moderator'. My impression is that she has an actual say in the judging and she certainly doesn't seem to hold back her opinions - which neither a host or moderator would voice if they were *just* a host or moderator. She's influencing the decisions and the guest judges. It's just a question of if she's walking all over them or if she's just getting more weight for her opinions. Which wouldn't be so bad if she was actually qualified."


By "moderator," I mean that Heidi is more like Padma on "Top Chef;" she introduces which design the rest of the judges should talk about and gives her opinion after everyone else finishes speaking.

Now onto the question of whether Heidi is qualified to be a judge on "Project Runway." She has a lot of experience in the Fashion Industry and collaborated on sandal designs with Birkenstock.


My husband-- who doesn't care a whit about fashion but who indulges me in watching PR-- threw an apoplectic fit when Althea's dress was chosen as one of the best, and Gordana's as one of the worst.

He's harping on it again even now, as he sees that I'm reading commentary.


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Just read this week's TLo Awards. I love you two!

That is all.


I absolutely LOVED this dress and I'm completely baffled at how it ended up in the Bottom Three.


Coco Channel said...
By "moderator," I mean that Heidi is more like Padma on "Top Chef;" she introduces which design the rest of the judges should talk about and gives her opinion after everyone else finishes speaking.

Then let's just call her a Modified Moderator (or A Modified Model Moderator... nah... pushed it too far).

Not a big Top Chef watcher but it seems that Padma's opinions are tempered by the fact there are other, more qualified permanent judges. Which isn't the case we've seen this season on Project Runway.

Now onto the question of whether Heidi is qualified to be a judge on "Project Runway." She has a lot of experience in the Fashion Industry and collaborated on sandal designs with Birkenstock.

She hasn't designed a successful clothing line (or lines), she isn't an editor whose job it is to gauge and judge what fashion trends will be or where the fashion market will go.

She is a successful clothes-wearer and a pretty good TV producer. There's no doubt she has experience in the fashion industry - I just don't think she has it in the right field to be making sound judgements on the show (if she is. I've never been able to establish exactly how much influence her pronouncements are in the judging this wacky season).

The Birkenstock pointer just made me giggle. I just hope Christian never gets a hold of that contract. I think I'd die laughing if I saw torturous high-heeled Birkenstocks.


Anonymous said in regards to Heidi's experience:
"She hasn't designed a successful clothing line (or lines), she isn't an editor whose job it is to gauge and judge what fashion trends will be or where the fashion market will go."


There are several segments of the Fashion Industry (i.e. accessories, shoes, etc.) besides clothing. So, Heidi has some design experience - even if it is just Birkenstocks.


Wow, Heidi and Seal were just on E Channel's live Emmy Awards pre-show red carpet watch. Both she and PR were nominated this year.

She's already as big as a house and still only in her seventh month. Great figure-hugging Marchesa gown, though.


Is it just me, or did most of the judges offer mainly positive feedback for these bottom dresses?

Especially Gordana, its like they themselves didn't know why she was in the bottom. Gee, wonder why...


Thanks for answering my question about the newspaper, Coco.


Where is it written that there has to be a top THREE and a bottom THREE?!!!

Gordana's work this week was middle tier. So why not have a top three and a bottom TWO? Or if there is only one stinker - why not just have a bottom one? And then spend more time talking about the top group.

I don't know - I just can't figure out why they have to be so beholden to symmetry.


Gordana's my favorite on a personal level. I just like her.

But, you were right last week when you said she needs to step it up. There's a spark missing.

Is it my imagination that an Uli-contest-judges dynamic is going on here? Like she's thinking too much and is also too quietly competent? Maybe a little afraid of breaking out something crazy? Taking it all too seriously, in a way?

I'm glad Tim has been so complimentary to her. The judges always seem to hedge their criticisms of her, so it seems they like her, too.

Interesting that she and her model Tara are a lot alike. A little reserved, but very quietly funny and good-hearted.

(Tara was funny on MOTR when she called Celine "Simone.")


Brooklyn Bomber wrote:
Thanks for answering my question about the newspaper, Coco.


Your welcome! I'm glad I could help. :)


Nicholas said he was in 90s East Village punk. A whole different kettle of fish.

Funny that the judges all acted like they knew better what "punk" is.


PPS - "Alert the media."

I heart you guys.


You guys are awesome!


Gordana really didn't deserve to be at the bottom, but what are we to do when so many of the judges haven't been inhaling tanning spray?

I miss Michael and Nina


They are out for Gordana and I'd love to know why.

I cannot wait until the judges with actual knowledge of fashion come back.


Sorry to be a comment hog, but I'm marooned in the office with a working AC! (as opposed to the rest of the house & its non-working swamp cooler... damn. Almost made it through the summer.)

I wondered why Booth Moore wasn't one of the judges. I know she's a big fan of the show.


Totally with you about Gordana's dress. I liked it, and thought that big red monstrosity should have been in the bottom instead.


Am I the only one getting a little annoyed by how everyone's pronouncing Gordana's name? As far as I know (Serbian heritage here), it's pronounced "Gore-dana", not "Jor-dana". I wonder...

That aside, Johnny's was the only really bad one in the bottom three this week. Nikolai's wasn't great, but it wasn't horrible. I liked the pinstriped "pattern".

I loved Gordana's! Maybe it's not a winner, but I would have thought that it would get into the top three, or at least the middle. It's simply amazing that there was no muslin in it, just paper. Tim liked it in the workroom, and watching the extended judging, it looks like Tommy loved it, Hedi didn't, and the others thought it was okay. Who knows what Hedi has against her?


Like I wrote in another post, I am really wanting nina and michael to come back. i don't hate guest judges but this is ridiculous. Just because you get a fashion editor and male designer DOES NOT mean you get Michael and Nina. Now it's the HEIDI show everybody! she is running EVERYTHING.

I completely agree with the whole Gordana thing. I really liked her design. I wasn't too crazy about Irina's but I thought Gordana's was executed well and had a twist on something that we know. While I did like Chris' I don't understand how they can penalize Gordana for something that Chris basically did in the sense of creating a "wearable" garment.

Also, I thought that Logan's piece was really cool when it came down the runway. I was surprised they didn't choose it because I thought it was innovative and had a nice color scheme.


I thought Nicolas' was fug. Gordana's silhouette was nice, but the dress didn't move on its own.


I think Gordana just hasn't gotten ANY attention thus far, and so this week she either had to be in the top or the bottom, and I guess she didn't make one good enough to be in the top. I honestly think it was a producer's decision rather than a judging one. It was pretty obvious that she wouldn't be going home.


Maybe I'm just a tinfoil-hat kind of girl, but I REALLY think the people who produce reality shows (across the board) are very eager to get rid of the "old" people early on (and by old, i mean older than, say, 32. MAYbe 35). Qrstl's gone already; Epperson and Gordana have been ignored or shredded in the judging. Gordan's work has been excellent - technically great, and visually appealing. NONE of them are doing such crazy unique work that you can fault her for conventionality.

I think saying the newspaper looked like a "real dress" is actual quite a remarkable compliment.

I'm very, very worried for Epperson, who I love (his personality is just so chill and relaxing, and he was the only one they showed saying anything kind or neutral when everyone was laughing at Johnny in the lofts; AND i love his work).

I'm also really worried for Gordana. Her work is great, but her age just sets her up for non-success. The judges seem to really love Althea, whose work is good but not AS good as they seem to think it is. plus, of course, she's 23 and looks like an ex-cheerleader. sigh.


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Tlo said: Still, we can't complain too much because he desperately needed the smackdown. Our only regret is that Nina wasn't there to give it to him."




Yes, it's actually easy to take LaNina (& Michael Kors) for granted, but when they are missing from the show they demonstrate just how important they are to it. Nina especially: Had she been there to give that look (you know the one), at least one of those final 2 would have peed their pants.

But here's the thing about Nicholas' runway meltdown with Johnny: Hasn't everyone been in the situation (at work, school, where ever) where you're up against someone (competition, job, assignment, anything where a choice is being made between you and that other person) and you KNEW that person was lying, but you didn't say anything - didn't point out the other person's lies, and ended up losing out to the liar and just seethed? Wished that you HAD said something? Wondered if the outcome would have been different if the decision makers knew what you knew?

This was an example of why you were probably right to hold your tongue (even though you knew you were right). Tough call though.

--GothamTomato


"I'm a little concerned about the "age" pickup that TLo mentioned. I'd hate to see her overlooked for more mediocre but more photogenic/quoteworthy contestants."


I fear you both maybe right. Her work is impeccable, she is decent to the judges, her fellow competitors and seems to have a real passion for her craft.

Yet she is not telegenic enough for the producers to give her props.


I did not understand why these two were bottom three. I LOVE Gordana!


Put me down for Team Gordana! She produces gorgeous clothing, overall.

I think the garment that should have been in the bottom was Epperson's. His "creation" reminded me of a paper airplane, but it absolutely did not fly!

What were those judges thinking?


Gordana delivered the only design on the runway that completely transcended the material. Her pleats could easily have been flat or stiff, but there's a suppleness to her design that the others frankly lacked.

Every other piece up there in one way or another very obviously made of paper. Some intentionally...others not.

Gordana's had no exposed cut edges, no fly-away corners of paper coming unglued. Her technical ability should have landed her higher in the ranking. The design was cute and the pattern was actually pretty good.

The winner? No..it lacked the drama that others delivered. But the bottom? Nope, clearly undeserved.
robertryan


If we're going to start comparing Heidi with Padma (and what does this have to do with the two dresses in question, I don't know) I have to give the edge to Padma.

Padma wrote a cookbook, for goodness sakes. She cooks. Heidi...designed a jewelry line for QVC? Hardly the same thing.


Just Me said Am I the only one getting a little annoyed by how everyone's pronouncing Gordana's name? As far as I know (Serbian heritage here), it's pronounced "Gore-dana", not "Jor-dana".

Probably you are the only one, since Gordana herself pronounces her name with a soft "G".


Lilithcat said...

Just Me said Am I the only one getting a little annoyed by how everyone's pronouncing Gordana's name? As far as I know (Serbian heritage here), it's pronounced "Gore-dana", not "Jor-dana".

Probably you are the only one, since Gordana herself pronounces her name with a soft "G".



Exactly!!! Things people worry about. Jeez!


TEAM GORDANA!!!!


I thought Gordana's dress was amazing, even Tim said so, he called it "stunning!"


"Carol in LA said...

Tommy's critique of Gordana was all positive so I still don't get why she was even close to the bottom."


Because Heidi doesn't like Gordana.


I think that Gordana's dress was the best one out there, and here's why: I looked at it and said "Wow! That's made of newspaper?"

Is it innovative in terms of shape? No, but I really don't care. It looks amazingly not like newspaper for something of newspaper. It has a terrific pattern and color formed entirely from the use of the newspaper. It's pretty. It moved like a dress (though I'm not sure if she has a muslin base under that so that might not be relevant). The only real criticism I have is it's maybe a tad short. Gordana likes her the short dresses, she does.

(Also, uh... Boxy? Really? Cuz I see curves.)

Yes, I think she's getting totally passed over by the notjudges, and I really wish I understood why, because she is one of my favorites this season.


Gordana's dress didn't seem boxy to me at all. The only two dresses with fit issues that bothered me belonged to Christopher (mucho props on the Joan of Arc rising out of a leaf pile comment, Virgina) and ALTHEA. I'm sorry. I felt Althea should have been in the bottom instead. The fit was MADDENING (who wants a poofed pelvic region?) and, despite the skill it obviously required, the print bored me. But then, I never like Althea's garments as much as the judges do. Gordana's was bright and cute and interesting. My sister and I thought that she'd be the clear winner.


I typed a whole screed here about how wack it is that Jeffrey was (deservedly) praised in S3 for creating a very wearable newspaper dress that disguised its origins very effectively, while this season Gordana got bottom'd for a similar feat -- but then I realized that Brooklyn Bomber had beat me to it. So -- what BB said.

And: hi, boys!!


Nicolas's had a nice top, but a bad and overly simple-looking skirt. I didn't care for the colors/print on Gordana's.

It seems to me that Gordana hurt herself by going with the newspaper alone, rather than using some muslin. Possibly also by using the newspaper's colors instead of adding color with pens or paint. I doubt that the judges were giving extra points or deducting points for the percentage of paper and/or muslin used. They were just judging what it looked like.

The same is true of TLo, I imagine. This dress did not fit that well in the upper bodice. It was Gordana's decision to use purely paper when she could have gone with some muslin to fit it better. Either it fits or it doesn't--I don't think that Gordana gets any slack for using no muslin, nor does Althea get points deducted for using it.

Also, the judges seemed to be looking a lot at the DESIGN of the garment rather than the execution. That seems to be the trend this season.

What the heck was going on with Louise's design? It was hideous. I wasn't that crazy about Epperson's either: yes, the top and sleeves were striking, but he didn't do enough with the skirt.


I have no clue why Carol Hannah wasn't there- that shit was so ugly.


I think the reason why TLo said Gordana's dress was boxy is that it didn't move particularly well on the runway. In fact, it moved with all the lightness of a paper box. Hence the reference to boxy and probably why it was in the bottom three.


Where in the world are Duchess and Nina??? They really should have planned the shooting schedule around them. The panel of judges just isn't as good w/out them.


Just me said...

Am I the only one getting a little annoyed by how everyone's pronouncing Gordana's name? As far as I know (Serbian heritage here), it's pronounced "Gore-dana", not "Jor-dana". I wonder...

I thought that at first too,until I realized that she pronounces it Jordana herself!!! This is what I'm betting: since Serbian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, someone at some point had to translate her name into the Latin alphabet. The Croatian alphabet, which is a modified Latin alphabet, has its own letter for our J-in-Jordana sound, and neither G or J would make an equivalent. So when she spelled her name in English she probably didn't have any idea which would be better, since English uses G and J for essentially the same sound (as in "judge," for example).


Anonymous said...(3:52PM)
M'eh. I say let Heidi stay in LA and do the NYC seasons every 2nd year. Let Iman do the NYC when Heidi wants to stay in LA but make sure the show *stays* in NYC.

Iman does Project Runway Canada...


Does Tim do a blog anymore? Or a video blog?


bitchybitchybitchy

I also don't get the negativity from Heidi about Gordana's design, and most of the comments from the other judges are positive.

As for Nicolas, so far he seems to be talking the talk and not walking the walk.


Gotham Tomato, I agree with you 100%.

I thought Gordana's was lovely. It reminded me of tight-fitting biker wear, like leather. I was kinda shocked when I did the math and realized that she must be in the bottom three instead of the top.


I've been pondering about the increasing role Heidi has been taking, while Nina and the Duchess have been conspiciously absent, and Tim's takes have been clipped to a certain extent.


The whole purpose of making PR and Heidi being the exec producer was to mainly feature her. To make us all say: "Hey look! Here's a model with brains! She can do more than just sachay down the runway with her bra and panties!"

Trouble is, the plan backfired when viewers fell in love with Tim and eventually came around to Nina and the Duchess. Heidi was just seen as the pretty girl who read the cue cards, but had little impact when it came to judging and what comments the viewers took more seriously.

It could also have a lot to do with this LA move, since Heidi is the only one who has long-term residence there with the Seal and the kids. The other three are New Yorkers, and do most of their business there.

Tim looks to be getting used to this kind of groove, but still dosen't have the same kind of enthusiam and critical impact that he once did. Maybe he just really dosen't care as much as he once did. Just as Heidi did before, he reads his cue cards and checks his watch to make sure he makes the Red Eye back to NYC in 2 hours.

If Heidi wanted to reclaim the show as primarily a vehicle for her and some of her celebrity friends, she's succeeded.

The other three seem to have been sort of been pushed back to the supporting cast as was intended in the first place.


The Heidi:

"Winner: Ra'mon
Tom & Lorenzo's take:
Alas, many of the designers went with longer hems this week, but Ra'mon made Heidi happy by keeping the hemline just this side of scandalously short."

Personally, I thought Frau Seal deserved a follow-back win for dressing in one of the contestant's muslin-paper blouses with that tin foil mini.


"it was entertaining as hell to see Litte Miss Full-Of-Herself get her comeuppance on the runway after the constant trash-talking. All that head-bobbing and self-stroking was getting just a tiny bit annoying"

You said it! If if he had spent more time concentrating on his own design and not constantly trashing Johnny's he might have pulled off a better look.

Agree about Gordina as well. Dont think she deserved to be in the bottom 2


I listened to the criticism again in the extended judging, the only negative feedback she got was that it was less creative than other dresses on the runway.

Other than that, she got a lot of nice feedback, mostly from Tommy Hilfiger and Eva Longoria.

Eva Longoria also said that the judges thought almost all the dresses were great and pointed out that all the designers should feel good. Maybe Gordana had 5 points lower than the top 3 (assuming 40 points for top score, 10 possible from each judge). Doesn't mean her look is bad, just that others eked by higher.

In the judging, she got a lot of great feedback.


I was dismayed to see Gordana being called out for bottom 3 treatment. and you know, Tim told her that her look was totally awesome, too. There is no design flaw here, she attempted to make it look like not-newspaper. This was totally undeserved.

I don't like her model. And I think Celine deserves a better designer, so I wish that Gordana would pick Celine. So there! gordana, please read.


Looking at the previews, Nina isn't there next week, either.


I agree with another laura: Gordana needs a different model. Tara is bland and invisible, and maybe she's making Gordana's creations invisible too. This week they all have to change models; it will be interesting to see whether that will help.

Other than that, I don't understand why Gordana don't get no respeck. I think she is wonderful, and I loved this little dress, as well as some of her earlier work.

Heidi clearly isn't a fan, and who knows what goes on in the head of Frau Seal? With all these amateur judges, she can throw her weight (such as it is) around. If La Nina and the Duchess were on hand, she wouldn't have so much power.


another laura @ 9/21/09 11:34 AM

"I don't like her model. And I think Celine deserves a better designer, so I wish that Gordana would pick Celine. So there! gordana, please read."



Welp, considering this was filmed well over a year ago, I think its a tad late for that.


Yes! Yes! I think Gordana is one of the stronger contenders and technically proficient and I don't understand why she doesn't get more praise. -victoria


With Johnny gone, who is Peppermint Patty going to snipe at?! Even though he is such a little bitch, he does make the show entertaining. Too bad his auf-ing time is a-coming.

Gordana needs to ditch Tara and I know that she must in two episodes (this week she still has her). Tara can't walk to save her life and her hands!! Will someone teach that girl how to relax her hands and keep them still. She flings them in half fists all over the place!

I just hope that Gordana survives this week. She's a wonderful designer and I love this dress. I'd totally wear this with some tights and chunky platforms. But I fear that above-posters' observations about ageism are right on the money. God, Hollywood sucks!


Lilithcat- I actually never heard her say her own name- I missed the beginning of the first episode, where I guess I would have heard it. Like Elaine said, it's probably just the closest English equivalent she could find. Thanks for replying!

JessicaSloet- Not that worried, like I said, I was just wondering.


Anonymous @ 10:19 today -- Yes, I think you hit the nail on the head with your well-reasoned analysis of how PR has morphed into something different than Heidi intended, and how she's trying to take it back to her original vision (taking advantage of Kors' and Garcia's extended absence). I enjoy reading this blog to get these kind of insights as well as the usual fashion commentary and fun snark.


i thought Gordana was being singled out for being in the TOP 3, she deserved it, i think it looks fantastic, you can't even tell it's paper, that is the magic of it, i think the judges are way off, i think Christopher's wasn't so great, make frilly paper! come on that's the most obvious choice, i thought he should have been in the bottom 3.


Gordana got shafted. It's the only one that was completely made out of paper. Yes, it was very boxy and had little movement. But I give her a higher grade for her degree of difficulty.


Gordana's dress was one of my favorites. I thought the color was stunning, it was crafted beautifully and it was very wearable.

I don't understand the "it's to wearable" comment. I thought that was the purpose of unconventional materials challenges. To make stuff you would never use into something fashionable and wearable.

Oh, and I thought Irina's coat looked much like Laura's coat in the rip-your-apartment-to-pieces challenge. I liked it, but I liked Gordana's dress better.


Agreed. I was really confused by the criticism of Gordana's dress. She did handle it very gracefully tho. For that matter, I didn't think Nicholas' was bad. Very confusing.

Still not over that unappealing rubber dress that Ra'mon won with on the beachwear challenge. Where are Nina and Michael to straighten all this out?


Agreed. Gordana's, though stiff, was not BAD. Were the judges perhaps trying to shake her up with the hopes she'll move beyond "very good" to "contender?"


Has that line about the outcome being ultimately decided by the producers always been there? I don't remember it from my previous obsessive re-watchings. Free Gordana! (from obscurity)


^Yes, it's been there from the beginning; along with the phrase "portions of the program not affecting the final outcome of the competition have been edited out." It's usually at the very end of the credits and the majority of reality shows use it to avoid legal issues.


Irina's dress reminds me I need to change the air conditioning filters at home.

I liked Althea's very form-fitting skyscraper dress, but she looks like an even more beaten down white trash version of Kirsten Dunst, and I'm tired of her hangdog posture up there skulking on the runway.

I also liked Christopher's dress, but that's partly because he has Katie, the best model of them all. Bitch could have even made Johnny's shit look good.

Speaking of which, it was very sad to lose Emarie. She was obviously some kind of man pretending to be a woman and hoping to get by on ethnicity, but really, we know she bore too striking a resemblance to Jermaine "We Don't Have to Take Our Clothes Off" Stewart. May he/she rest in peace.

And clearly, Gordana is not getting enough love from the judges. If NinaGarciaFashionDirectorForMarieClaire ever returns, I hope Gordana smashes a bottle of Stoli and takes a go at her. The only thing that will save Nina in the end is the impenetrable still-wet-from-the-toilet neoprene avant garde dress that Tim Gunn bid on and forced her to wear. It will be the most epic episode of PR ever in the history of fashion and other forms of girlfighting.

If this week's challenge is "Make a cheap dress for a sad Russian hooker," then maybe Peppermint Patty (Nicholas) will finally be in the top three.


Heidi is a bitch. And not the good kind. When she talks, it sounds like she has a mouth full of turd balls. She just annoys the living fuck outta me.

Oh, and she looked totally reeDICK at the Emmys. And not in the good way.





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