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Missing Persons Report: Nina and the Duchess

This is the topic that will not die.


All anyone wants to talk about is our missing bitches. Since Nina re-opened the wounds in her latest L.A. Times interview:

Several fans of the show have missed seeing you and Michael Kors in the judges’ chairs these last few weeks.
The reality is that both Michael and myself have other jobs besides “Project Runway” and he probably had to work on his following collection and I had to go to the collection. When it was in L.A. and in that time period that we filmed, it was very difficult to be there the entire time. He has another job, he’s a designer and work on his collection, and I had to fly to Paris to see the fashion shows for the fall. It was impossible to be there for an entire month.

We figured it was time to give the controversy its own post where everyone can vent. Here's a little something to get you started:

If Project Runway moved to L.A. so that Heidi can be closer to her family, losing Nina and Michael in the process, what would you as a fan rather have? An L.A.-based show with rare appearances from Nina and Michael or a NY-based show without Heidi? It's your very own Sophie's Choice, kittens. If you had to pull the trigger and make a decision, who does the show need more: Heidi or Nina and Michael?

Discuss. And be prepared to show your work.

Source: 'Project Runway': Nina Garcia doesn't want to hear your excuses [LATimes]

[Photos: Getty Images]

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Heidi's contribution to the show is so predictable and oft-rehearsed she could just remain in LA when the show's next taped in NY, and mail her performance in.

Or, maybe she could be a face on a screen, like the thrilling Nicole Kidman guest appearance, earlier this season.


You can't replace Heidi. I love Nina and Michael, but it's not their show. Project Runway is defined by a few key elements, and Heidi Klum is one of them.

Even more than Nina and Michael, what I really miss is consistent judging. If you can't have Nina and Michael there all the time (or at least most of the time), they need to be replaced. Bring in two new regulars, and Nina or Michael can be occasional guest judges. The revolving door of judges hurts the show.


auf Wiedersehen Heidi!

She is a spokesmodel, who does her job well, but....

the duchess and la Nina really bring it! They know fashion inside and out and give great critique.

But since Heidi is a producer, she ain't goin nowhere!


Heidi's contribution to the show is so predictable and oft-rehearsed she could just remain in LA when the show's next taped in NY, and mail her performance in.

Actually that's an interesting observation. She's never in the workroom, and she doesn't even give out the challenges any more. We just get the same scene where she tells them all to go meet Tim somewhere to get their challenge.

Let Heidi teleconference in if she can't be there. I like her as a part of the show, but Tim Nina and Michael are the ones that really run things.


I hate this new season in L.A. I think that there are benefits to having a core group of judges who see what the designers put out week after week. And I think that New York is the ideal setting for a show based around fashion week. I vote Heidi.


Sorry, Heidi. This season has been a terrible let-down for three key reasons:

1) Nina and the Duchess not only provide good quips, but they have fashion instinct that these substitute judges just haven't cultivated. They don't just say that they love or hate something; they can provide a dissertation as to why it doesn't work (a) as a piece of fashion, (b) as a component of the challenge at hand, and (c) as an example of the designer's voice.

2)The third-seat guest judges have all been cut from the same cloth. Not that I don't enjoy seeing a Posh Spice or an Eva Longoria, but starlets should be guest judges once a season, not every damned week. The pool of possible judges is so much broader and deeper in NYC than it is in El Lay.

3) L.A. just isn't inspirational, unless you're having a movie or red carpet challenge. People don't walk around on the streets. There's no architecture or history. You don't have the melting pot of cultures, the diversity of neighborhoods, the cross-section of industries, or the interaction of people across the socioeconomic spectrum. It's fake, and NYC is real. And it's this realness that makes the challenges more engaging when PR takes place in NYC. In L.A., the challenges have been uninspired messes, and I fear we're not seeing the best from this set of designers because the challenges are so poorly outlined.

So if you've read this far, it's obvious that NYC, Nina, and the Duchess are essential to PR's success. I loves me some Heidi, but what she brings to the show in no way balances out the three major liabilities presented by filming in L.A.


Heidi would be there no matter what. I vote for Team Orange!


Bye-bye, Heidi:(

Sorry, but the show needs to be in NYC.

If they had to move it to another city for a season, I'd vote for something in Europe - London, Milan or Paris.


Sorry Frau Seal, but

Nina, the Duchess, Ms. Gunn

and fuck it, jack IMAN from PRCanada. Nobody watches it anyway.

At this point, I'd even settle for Tyra and her crazy ass.


I adore Heidi, and I even frequently enjoy her judges commentary but another season with this little Kors and and Garcia and I might cry. Maybe try to plan the shooting better so it's not WEEKS without either of them.

I will admit to beginning to sort of enjoy mini-Nina from Marie Claire and that scares me.


Well, at least the Duchess returns next week.


Well, at least the Duchess returns next week.


...and while we're at it...

SAVE FERN MALLIS!!!

Please don't have her sign another contract for that mess from earlier thi year!


Ditch Nina and bring in Iman. Period. Iman is absolutely awesome on PR Canada and she would be fabu on PR.

Bad hosts can be forgiven on a show (see Billy Joel's wife and "Top Chef"), but poor judging will drive off viewers forever. They need to fix this. Immediately.


I have an idea. Why not schedule filming for when they can all be there?
Why film the show DURING THE SHOWS!?!
There are like ten months a year when there are no fashion shows.
I get it, they're busy people and have multiple jobs but make it work.

The chemistry between the three of them is very important and I don't want to see any of them go.


We need Michael and Nina - If I was a designer on the show I would feel cheated not getting their opinions. Heidi is just the face Michael, Tim and Nina are the brains of the show.


We've seen how the show suffers when there is a lack of continuity in the judging. Michael and Nina bring a credibility and consistency to the show. The revolving door of the celebrity judges just don't add the same level of professional critique as Michael and Nina. They are sorely missed!


A lot of posters have mentioned the Duchess's and La Nina's INSIDER fashion status, and I think that's what's really missing from the show set in LA. In NY, the PR contestants were actually striving for something more than winning a reality show competition -- they were angling to enter an insanely cliquey, almost-impenetrable world of high art, painful backstabbing, delicately temporal jargon, and dangerous commerce: Fashion. Kors and Garcia are insiders; the top designers on PR got to see behind the velvet curtain of NY Fashion, and were introduced into that world by real mentors. That's what they really won by showing at Bryant Park: ACCESS into the walled community of High Fashion, by proving their creativity and skill. It was a real thing, and it (occasionally) worked -- Christian Siriano being the prime example. In the LA show, what do the designers really win? The chance to become Rachel Zoe? LA is imaginary, costume fashion for another industry; NY is the temple of the art and business of Fashion.


A very easy decision: I'll take Michael and Nina over Heidi any day. Michael and Nina need to be on every episode.


This show definitely needs a Kanye West intervention.

Let him jump on the runway and say,

"Look Marie Claire lady, I'm happy that you're here, but NINA GARCIA IS THE GREATEST JUDGE OF ALL TIME!!"

Think Harv and the Boys will take notice?


Well, the person the show needs most is one you didn't mention...Tim Gunn. Without him, I would not watch.

But, for the Sofie's Choice question..I'd DEFINITELY choose Nina and Michael over Heidi any day.


I need it to be in New york with nina and Michael!!!


Anybody can be bitchy and snarky, even when pretending it's constructive criticism -- such as dished out by Michael and Nina. I've enjoyed the past few episodes with other high profile designers like John Varvatos and Max Azria and their new points of view. The show works for me without Michael and Nina. It would be a train wreck without Heidi.


This is less like Sophie's Choice, and more like choosing between Edgar Bergen & Charlie McCarthy (I'll let you figure out which of the choosees are the ventriloquists & which is the dummy).

The only entirely irreplaceable component on PR is Tim. But LaNina & the Tangerine Dream come very close. Lest we forget; there were some cracky decisions made with Michael & Nina at the helm, but at least, with them there, there is some industry context and more intelligent discourse (as opposed to just, 'I like it'.)

Heidi is the most easily replaceable of the quartet. Sorry, but she's just a model and even supermodels are just a dime a dozen.

It's better in NY with Nina & Michael.

--GothamTomato


Not only does the show in LA also loose Michael and Nina it also loses NYC which is just as important. Get rid of Heidi, blow the bucks and have Linda Evangalista or Christy Turlington host it. They are way more fabulous anyways.


New York without Heidi. No question.


This season, I'm watching the show as a supplement to this blog, and not reading this blog as a supplement to the show. Meaning, PR this year is really faltering.
Let's look at the failing equation:

Start with the blah foundation that is L.A. L.A. is nothing compared to NYC. No energy, no intensity, no inspiration.

Add to that a group that has only a couple (Ra'mon, Gordana, I think that's it) endearing designers. Plus, while a couple provide some mediocre bickering, there is no one who is truly witty. And not even a group with good camaraderie, a la Nick/Daniel/Andre/Santino.

Add to that the horrible "challenges."

Then, minus Nina's expertise and Michael's zingers and in their place...

Add idiot judges.

= Fail.

Tim, God bless his heart, is the only worthwhile part of this season, but even he seems to be not his usual self, probably because he sees how things are crumbling.


I miss the bright orange glow of the Dutchess on my tv screen on Thursdays night.


These judges blow. Bring back Kors and Nina! Heidi does make a contribution, but the point of the show is the work. How the work gets judged is critical. Kors and Nina are definitive voices in the fashion world...when you have no-names and loudmouths it damages the credibility of the show.


We haven't seen the show without Heidi so don't know what kind of hole that would leave, but PR definitely needs to be in NY. LA is not a substitute. And the show definitely needs the Duchess's fabulous quips and knowledge, and Nina's impatience with fashion BS. It's not nearly as interesting without them, not to mention the weird(er) judging.


Like it or not, it's Heidi's show, so even if she's the weakest link she's not going anywhere. But the LA locale and the absence of Nina and the Duchess have truly impacted PR's quality. There has got to be a way to have all three on the show on a regular basis, just like in the past.


In terms of their judging abilities, of course I'd choose Nina and Michael over Heidi, but Heidi does so much more than judge.

Heidi and Tim ARE Project Runway. Period.


I love Nina and I love Michael, but Heidi is a much more present force on that show. Keep it in LA and give us two new judges (Zoe and Jay McCarroll, for example). I don't like the revolving door. The judges aren't fostering any kind of relationship with the designers this way. They're not going to have any concept of how far they've come when everyone gets to Bryant Park.


Micheal and Nina over Heidi any day. Anyone can walk down a runway and give the designers their challenge. Not anyone can rival the wit and hilarity of Nina and Michael.


Nina and the duchess period.
As much as I love Heidi, Nina and the Duchess will provide more interesting critiques than the revolving door of judges this show has had. They are more experienced with the show and format, more comfortable, and are neither shy nor afraid to give it to the contestants with both barrels loaded. I would rather have heidi as an occasional guest than vice-versa.


Not even close ...

I'd prefer to rock out to the dulcet tones of La Nina and the Duchess.


Michael and Nina are much more important to the show than Heidi. Hello, two judges versus one host and judge? Two judges win. Think about it - the last THIRD of every episode is the judging. When that is off, the entire episode SUCKS. All that work and drama is being done for the judging itself. Lifetime scored an epic FAIL in not making sure their schedule allowed the judges to be present.


No way this show would be worth watching without Heidi.


Avid fan from Manila Philippines says MK/NG/NY any day over HK/LA. Critiques are much more intellectual (if there's such a thing) from those 2 MIA's. I'd love to see Iman guest-host the show though, that woman has a mind of her own.


Nina and Michael brought a wonderful continuity and level of fashion knowledge to the judging. Heidi is beautiful, but based on her outfits, I have to question her taste level. Buh bye, Heidi.


I want all of them: Heidi, Nina, Michael, and Tim. They just need to move back to NY FOR GOOD.


NYC


Michael and Nina in New York for the win. Heidi needs to be in NY for the short time (relatively speaking) the show shoots. NY is the garment and fashion center of the US.

This show is about finding the next best designer, not the next best stylist or costumer for the movie industry. When you have a guest judge that no one has heard of nor designs or works in the fashion industry it is frustrating and rather pointless.


New York is MUCH better and the show has to keep Tim. For me, if it was Duchess/Nina vs Heidi, the scales would be tipped slightly to Duchess/Nina.


Question: Do y'all think Kors & Nina will be shown pix/video or talk with Zoe & Heidi re the designs they missed?


m. connor sullivan on 9/26/09 at 12:00 PM said..."hmm, want Michael...don't care as much about Nina...and I like Heidi (more so on GNTM!)...but we need NYC back."

What the Hell does Heidi do with her husband kids when she is filming GNTM in Germany?

TampaBay


Honestly, pretty girls who like tight, shiny, short clothes are a dime a dozen, especially when you through in her stilted delivery and catty comments. I'd trade her for Nina and Michael any day of the week. ANY DAY.

Bring the show back to New York! Bring back the days of something other than pretty-dress challenges!


i'm not dorothy gale

Buh bye, fraulein.


The show worked because of Heidi, Tim, Michael and Nina. It is disjointed without the missing duo. I can't relate to the new judges. Still gonna watch but I can live without Heidi as long as they don't do anything with my Tim! And bring back The Duchess and La Nina!!!


La Nina and The Duchess, hands down. I miss my little bitchpants Nina and her toasty sidekick Michael. Their shoes cannot be filled by Heidi, but another model/fashionista could easily take over for Frau Heidi.


O.k., Michael Kors once described an outfit as "farty" and Nina Garcia questions everyone "taste level". How can they do one week, let alone several, without them?


For some reason I keep hearing Neil Diamond as I read these comments:

LA's fine but it ain't home. New York's home but it ain't mine no more.

Anyway, while I'm not as ready to throw Heidi under the bus as some of the other commenters seem to be, I do think Michael and Nina have the credibility and CONSISTENCY that these rent-a-judges don't have. It's little wonder this season's designers seem to be more concerned about not getting auf'd than about creating something that is well made and meets the challenge at hand.

(another suz)


I'd take Nina and Michael over Heidi any day.


Uh. Duh. Scratch my earlier question re whether Nina & MK will be seeing missed designs...

I just discovered their Lifetime.com video blabs.... so.

Never mind.


I want all of them. Work it out!


Okay, I'll jump in. Although I can't imagine a show without Heidi, it is possible the show might still work. We now know that the show can't work without Michael and Nina (at least, in my opinion). So if the choice is between a show that might not work (moving back to NYC without Heidi) or staying with a show that definitely doesn't work (keeping the show as it has been this season), I say make the switch back to NY and hope for the best.


New York, New York.

really.


Let's face it. The judging without Nina and the Duchess has been really lame this year. I vote to move it back to New York and ditch Heidi. And really why do you need Heidi? Tim can do what Heidi has been doing. And maybe get another model to act as a permanent judge and a mentor to the models.


I vote NY-Nina-Duchess. I'd hate to see Heidi go, but I really miss Nina and Duchess. Just promise not to let Kelly Rowland take Heidi's place! (horrors...)


I watch the show for Tim Gunn and to watch the designers design. But I had no idea how much I'd miss Michael Kors so much. He really stands out among all the judges. Heidi and Nina are good, but I wouldn't miss them.


mll (another lulu)

I mostly agree with Frank, way back just before noon.

Project Runway set its own standards high from the first season with the judging panel.

This season we have—continuity, credibility (lacking); contradiction, confusion (overabundant)—which equals quality of the show compromised.

I like Heidi, I'd hate to lose her. Tim is essential. LA/NY, don't really care, I understand the passion for NY, but the show can be successful wherever, even a midwestern city like Chicago. Use the best assets of whatever city you're in, producers.

We need Nina and Michael, or a damn good equivalent, for a consistent panel makeup, or Ra'mon's dress won't be the only thing going into the toilet.


While I look forward to Heidi's high pitched 'hellow' and cute outfit every week, she does not add as much interest to the show as the comments and facial expressions of La Nina and the Duchess. And the parade of celebrities ain't cutting it. I have no reason to care about any of their opinions.


suzq said:

"For me, it's a continuity issue. We can get used to anyone after awhile, provided they're authentic and they are there week after week.

So if you're going to do it in LA and Michael and Nina can't be there, get a new Michael and Nina. None of this revolving door, round robin, judge'o the week crap."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Absolutely what suzq said. Now, given the Sophie's choice in the exact terms TLo presented, I'd choose MK & NG over Ms. Klum for one reason - I'd much rather see what Nina is wearing every week than what Heidi wears. But, I would miss her.


Yes to NYC, Tim Gunn, Michael, Nina, and mood fabrics.

Auf Weidersehen to Heidi, lame-assed guest judges, twee challenges, and LA.


The show needs to be in NYC and it has to include Tim Gunn. Tim can't be replaced.

AFter that, it needs some consistent judges. I'd like to see Michael & Nina back, but if they can only make a few shows, then they should be replaced (let them be guest judges instead).

I think the designers deserve to have a real fashion designer as a judge - someone who knows what they are going through and the industry. Someone that can give them valuable feedback. Being judged by a random assortment of costume designers, hollywood insiders, and starlets each week is insulting. It has lead to completely inconsistent judging. I feel for the contestants because of the mixed signals.

Heidi is cute, but could be replaced. She can really only relate to clothing in terms of what she would wear. I don't think the contestants get much out of her feedback - it doesn't seem constructive. I want to see judges that can help the designers stretch themselves and grow. Not getting it right now.

LB


too many comments to read them all, so forgive me if this is repetitive:

Here is the crux of the problem. The designers need CONSISTENT criticism from experts. Heidi is an expert model... and she knows her short, shiny, and tight. Other than that, her critiques are not as insightful nor as helpful. The series of guest judges have some good comments, but they are not aware of what the deisgners bring week to week. They won't know if the disigner makes the same thing week after week.

Finding another model (Calling IMAN!!) is easy work.

Therefore, Michael and Nina in, Heidi finds a way to make it work. FGS, she owns the show doesn't she? She ought to want what is best for it.


NY, sans Heidi. MUST have consistent, knowledgeable judges or the whole show sinks!


I have to say that I want more of Nina and Michael and for the show to be in New York.

Heidi provides entertainment value, sure. However her comments and critique are best enhanced by Nina and Michael's insights.

Plus - no Nina and Michael = no Nina & Michael screencaps from TLo. This can not be allowed darlings!


The shows needs all of them. LA is not the place for PR. And judging by the "where the hell are Nina and Michael?" status update of my facebook friends. They all agree.


I guess I lean towards the minority - but I am torn.

I appreciate Nina and Michael comments and wit...BUT overall this is the first season I have agreed overall with the aufings - although not always with the winners and T3/b3.

But between Tim's comments (misleading the contestants), unclear challenge criteria and Heidi's bias against Gordana (and that Rude Rade broad) - I don't know what it is about this season but it is crazy.


boy, this is really tough.... I miss the Duchess and La Nin~a a lot, but the show wouldn't be the same without Heidi..... I think the show cannot exist without the main 4.... and I bet even those who want to see Heidi auf'd will not like the show without her, even with Michael and Nina. We have to consider that most of the appeal is the interaction between all of them.....
I don't know, I don't think I can choose....
but it seems the next season is in NY, so we won't have the same problem...


I'm shocked that so many people want to auf Heidi! OK. I'm not that shocked, really.

I, too, miss the Duchess and La Nina DESPERATELY, but Heidi hasn't been gone. If we had a guest host for several episodes that sucked as badly as these guest judges, then we could really gauge how much we'd miss HER if she were gone. As of now, my missing the fab duo in their absence, skews my opinion unfairly.

I don't like change. I want it all! NY, the Duchess, Nina, Gunn, and, yes...Heidi!!


I have never commented before but felt I needed to come out of the woodwork for this one. I first have to say I love you guys so much, yall are just fabulous. I really would like to see the show back in New York however, with or without Heidi but definitly with Nina and the Duchess.


Another vote for La Nina, the Duchess and Iman (and NYC!) Sorry Heidi....


ASK said...
But between Tim's comments (misleading the contestants)



I don't think Tim misleads anybody, he expresses his opinion, they follow him if they want to, nobody is forcing them. Besides, Tim has no way to know who's going to win or who's going home, especially with the way the judging is going this season.


Just tell Heidi that she either goes to NY or she's out.


I always felt that having Michael and Nina there all the time was a mistake. I had no idea how wrong I was. They make the show, as much as Tim does.


I sorely miss The Duchess and Nina. It just isn't the same with out them.


No Michael and Nina?? BIG mistake, Lifetime. Watch your ratings go down the tubes.


In the past Duchess and Nina were never gone at the same time, I think that's the main issue here. We never see them. Project Runway is less than half the show without them.


I'd take New York with Nina and Kors over LA with Heidi. The judging just bugs me this season more then any other.


Michael and Nina would never let these designers get away with crappy designs the way those guest judges do. They need to keep the show in NY. End of story.


Why do you think the fans disagree with the guest judges and Heidi so much? Because there's no Nina or Michael. Bring sanity back!!!


I'm also disappointed that the show has moved to L.A. It's just not the same.


Yes, Michael is back next week, but where the hell is Nina???????


The judging sucks without them!!!!!!!!!!


You know, I didn't care that the show moved to Lifetime, that it was shot in LA, but no Michael and/or Nina? That's too much. It's all Heidi's fault, and as one of the producers of the show she should know better.


Project Runway in LA is a mistake. The show belongs in New York.


Nina said "It was impossible to be there for an entire month." Well, then they need to film the show in NY every damn season.


Nina, Kors and NYC! I have been bored this whole season!


"Who are some of your dream guest judges?
In terms of American designers, Marc Jacobs. We’ve tried for several seasons to get him on and there have been scheduling conflicts. In terms of international design, I think someone like Jean Paul Gaultier, who we were very close to having this season, or Donatella Versace. I would love to have another challenge where the designers get to travel abroad and experience Milan or Paris or London."



I would die if any of them appeared on the show.


LA is out....just the wrong vibe...and the airhead judging doesn't help.
People have mentioned Tyra to replace Heidi.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This would ruin this show...her manufactured Springer theatrics and me, me, me air time gluttony ...takes away from the designers who are the real stars.

More than anything I want continuity but I want it all: NY, Heidi, Tim, Nina, Duchess with regular doses of DVF.

Now just make it work!


They can't get rid of Heidi, she's awesome.


Heidi is one of the producers of the show, she's not going anywhere.


Linensn'Things

Take Project Runway back where it belongs: New York City. If they don’t get back on track having Nina and Michael on the panel of judges they’ll lose their audience.


This season is a mess!

Tim HAS to be part of PR, without a doubt. Will NOT watch it if he isn't.

Heidi, I can do without. Her judging decisions seem to come from her own personal likes and dislikes instead of from a designer's or fashion expert's perspective. I think there are better candidates for her position on PR.

I really like Michael and Nina, but it doesn't HAVE to be Michael and Nina. I would just like two knowledgeable judges there ALL THE TIME. It's the only way to build credibility and have consistency for the show.


They should have more permanent judges. Invite DVF or Zac Posen. Guest judges are OK but they failed to read the designers the way the permanent judges do.


I know it's been said many times, but the show isn't the same without Michael and Nina. This is far too many episodes without them.


It's insulting that Nina and The Duchess are not regulars anymore. Nina would have tore Nicolas a new one. They're essential to the show's success.


I miss Nina and the Duchess, but I would be happy enough if they found a different combination of editorial and designer experts. Zoe Glassner is not an adequate replacement for Nina, and a parade of designers (even the ones who make good judges) leaves the major creative direction up to Heidi.

As for Heidi, she is the face of Project Runway and I can't imagine it without her. I even love her fashion input. But the show becomes a farce if the designers can't learn from their mistakes each week. I'm just not seeing the growth that designers usually make on this show.

So, if I have to choose? I'd auf Heidi.


I'm really missing Michael and Nina--am not finding that their substitutes have had much interesting to say, nor have they been very entertaining. I'd miss Heidi if she were gone too, but I'd vote to move back to NY. If it means Heidi has to go, let's bring in Iman.


If they can't get Michael or Nina to judge on a regular basis because they can't leave NY, very simple, move the show back to where it belongs.


When it comes down to it, I don't know who I'd choose. But I do know that since Nina and Michael haven't been present, Thursday nights aren't as exciting for me.


I vote with the majority that Nina/Michael/NY is better than Heidi/LA, but I think that the real culprits this season are crappy challenges and inconsistent judging.

I love Michale and Nina, but I also think that there must be two other experts out there that could do it as well. If they could be found, AND they could be there each week (The lack of consistency is also a big problem)

I used to live in LA and never loved it, but I don't think that that is the real problem. It could work with better challenges. Or at least clearer ones. (Was it surfwear or inspired by surfwear? was it costume, or inspired by costume?)

So i think that it really comes down to the new production company. i think that that is where the real problem lies. Since this is there first season, I am hoping that they absorb all this feedback and step it up. (of course, they already filmed S7, didn't they. before the feedback was there to absorb. Ah well.)

As of now, well, they just aren't making it work.

Peri


Not that my opinion much matters at this point, but I throw my support behind Nina and Michael. Heidi has always been a throw-away for me, personally. She acts like she knows what she's talking about, half the time she's a moron. Give me the experts any day. Plus L.A. sucks (although I admit clear NorCal bias on that call).

Unless Tim and Heidi are a package deal, at which point I need more time to think. Urf.


I vote for PR with Nina and Michael minus Heidi.

This season's judges lack the knack of giving constructive criticisms that Michael and Nina. What is the point of having guest judges that only say - "I love it", "I would wear it" when any lay person can do that? Moreover, I would take Nina anytime over that stylist judge who made a pass at Logan.

So far, this blog has been more entertaining than the show. Please bring the dynamic duo back. If Heidi won't return to NY, just record her doing her usual lines and replay it on the show.


I say keep Nina and Michael. By being there for the entire show, they can better judge how the designers are maturing and improving. Judging the designers on one look changes the show considerably.

Heidi is awesome, but there are other awesome judges out there. To keep the show in LA, they'd have to find truly fantastic permanent Nina and Michael replacements.


I'd miss Heidi. She's fun. She needs to be in the mix with Nina, MK, and Tim. So I'd vote for keeping them all. But move the show back to New York.


I don't think that the supposition is fair, since we've been MISSING Nina and Michael for the past 5 weeks, so we are VENTING at THAT. Of COURSE everyone is going to say "Nina/Michael over Heidi". If Heidi were missing and we had a revolving door of hosts, it would be jarring too.

That said, I AGREE WITH SUZQ: *IF* you are going to have to have Nina and Michael be gone, have a set "temporary" replacement -- not a new judge every week. I'd rather see the same, comfortable people every week -- not f-cking guest judges every week. I am actually getting comfortable with Zoe Glassner!

ALL OF THAT SAID, I deathly miss The Duchess' and La Nina's witty repartee. Thank God Michael is back this coming week (but is Nina?).

- Brent


If we want the show to continue...then we need Heidi. She and her catch phrases are the pulse of this show. You know how we Americans love our catch phrases. That said, I hate these guest judges- I think they know exactly how their words will become sound bytes, so they play along willingly. I want Nina and the Duchess back, too. But I'm not from NYC or LA- I'm from the South, bitches. And let me tell you- down here we can't tell the difference in "the pace" of the show since it left NYC. If we're pointing fingers, then I think Bunim-Murray has a lot more to do with the tone of the show than the setting. How about we move the show to Omaha...I hear they have a Fashion Week.


Back to New York, please. I am so very close to abandoning this show because of the absence of Michael and Nina. It's just not the same.


No question - hands down Nina & Michael over Heidi! (That is presuming that Tim will be a part of the show regardless of what city it's filming in, since you didn't specify.) No replacement would be Heidi, of course, but since it's (partly) due to her that the show isn't as good this season, it's a price I'm willing to accept. Another model or celebrity could step in - just look at Kristy and Iman on the Australian and Canadian versions!

Auf Heidi if that's what it takes to get things back up to snuff!


BluntDiplomat

First of all, the people who boastfully insist that they will not be watching next season if it remains in LA is totally lying. You all will keep watching. So cease with the self-righteous divatude.

Second, if none of you are beginning to get what the designers are all about at this point, then you are seriously not paying attention to what they say in the runway and what the critiques are. The most recent challenge encapsulates that it is not about the judges, the challenges, or the setting. It's all about what a designer brings to the table and how successfully and creatively they can communicate their point of view and philosophy within the framework of the challenge presented.

Third, the issue of Nina and Michael not being present 100% of the time to judge is a perennial one. Season 1 had Anne Slowey filling in for Nina for three episodes. Season 3 had Vera Wang substituting for Michael Kors for at least three episodes. Season 5 has Nina gone for 2 episodes. And the quality of judges were also subpar during Season 5 - when they were still in New York. I love them - but what exactly makes Sandra Bernhard, LL Cool J, and Apolo Anton Ohno more authoritative on matters of fashion than the previous actresses and judges that Season 6 had lately. And the last time I checked, Max Azria, John Varvatos, Monique Lhuillier, and Tommy Hilfiger are also respected designers in their own right who are more than qualified to sit in for the absent judges. Some of you speak as if though Season 6 had no credible judges thus far.

I welcome the move to LA. And I think the new setting can lend itself to new challenges. It took them SIX seasons to do a movie-themed challenge for crying out loud. And what is ubiquitous about the show is not its setting, but its creativity.

In conclusion, I cast my vote to neither Heidi or Michael and Nina, but rather to the show and I will gladly go along wherever it goes and whoever decides to stay with it.


Moving the show to LA was wrong on too many levels. The ONLY plus was that Heidi would be close to her kids. Do the math.

Heidi is cute and bubbly and the show needs that, but it also needs people who understand fashion and when a period piece should or should not have sleeves for example. Bubbly is not enough.


To use a Sue Sylvester quote, in regards to Heidi "I don't care about that so much."
Heidi just doesn't have the candle power to make interesting, relevant, industry-specific commentary like the Duchess and Nina.


Nina and Michael absolutely. And return to NYC. This season is boring so far. I cannot connect with any of them.

Heidi? You're auf.

Am I the only one that thinks the model show that follows has more heat?


Anonymous on 9/26/09 at 9:49 PM said...The show needs to be in NYC and it has to include Tim Gunn. Tim can't be replaced.

I 100% agree that Sir Tim cannot be replaced. However, does anyone other than me feel like 1) Tim is phoning it in this season, 2) Other than Epperson and auffed Meth-Head Boy, Tim really does not care for any of the current contestant designers as individuals and has even less respect for them as designers and 3) Tim seems very preoccupied with something other than the workroom. Just my take.

TampaBay


Goodbye Heidi, goodbye LA and goodbye Lifetime. I want Magical Elves Production, NYC and our 2 top judges back. I agree with the other posters that Heidi could very well come to NY for a month to film the show. Isnt it supposed to be in LA one season and then NYC the next since moving to Lifetime?


Oh and we must have Tim! He makes the show. It is obvious he isnt enjoying the west coast...


The show's better with Michael and Nina. Period.

Note the question didn't include any mention of Tim Gunn so the implied choices are a) Heidi + Tim + two Other judges or b) Michael + Nina + Tim and another Host.

I'm going with b.


Oh definitely lose Heidi. This season is unbearable.


Without a doubt I would keep the duchess and nina garcia.


Here is what I have learned from this season. This show needs to be NYC, it really needs the city . I am not sure why but the whole LA thing is not working. Heidi, Tim, Nina and Michael are the show. So here is my option, Heidi take a more acive role in Models on the Runway, She should judge the models walk, the top model can not be eliminated, lord knows the show needs something and Heidi knows how to model.

Nina and Michael must be brought back


Just took a look at Lifetime's PR site and there is a short note that Michael Kors will be there for the next episode.
It may be only for this one show, but better than nothing, right?


Nina is the essential.
Michael is easily distracted but great for the bitchy comment, so make sure he stays in the rotation.
Heidi is easily replaceable.

LA is BAD


Anticipating retrospect here but Season 6 will go down as the "lost" season: lost in LA, lost Kors + Nina, lost their minds.

But some good points: evicting the tedious model drama to its own show, aufing the talentless early on instead of keeping them around for faux drama.

However the disparity between the challenge description to the designers vs how it is presented to the (revolving) judges is ruining the series.

This is the 6th season. There is no excuse for abortions like the swimwear challenge episode.


I really hope you guys are thinking about how much money you're saving Lifetime in focus groups and consulting fees. I think it was ballsy of them to even ASK you to do the TLo Awards for free, but it's bordering on usatory now!


See, I don't know if I actually like Nina the judge, or if I just love the TLo screencaps of Nina the judge! Think about it you guys - you know I have a point!


Or, maybe she could be a face on a screen, like the thrilling Nicole Kidman guest appearance, earlier this season.

OOOH! Like Max Headroom!

No? Just me? Okay then.


desertwind said...
PS - I'm curious about something.

This season, we've been seeing more contrast between Tim's designer critiques and the judges critiques.


My theory is that Tim is so accustomed to Nina and Kors and their style of judging that he could give great advice on how the contestant's garment would fare in the critique. Because the judging was CONSISTENT. Now, who the hell knows? Different people every week. People Tim probably doesn't know from Adam.

I realize there is a danger of a show like PR becoming predictable and formulaic but puhleeez. Please please please. Enough of this Bizarro World PR - Give us the REAL Project Runway in NYC with all the old familiar faces.


Also - on the subject of Tim.

I tried to find this to link it and couldn't, but - I remember Tim saying that they filmed the All Stars show and Season 6 concurrently. He said he had to run from set to set and it was really hard for him.

That might account for some of Tim's "phoning it in" that you're seeing, Tampa Bay.


Personality aside the judging does not seem up to par. I don't think the new judges have enough of a clear view regarding creativity and vision. Also, I just don't get LA. Seems wrong somehow. The show needs the pulse and beat of NYC.

That said it will not be that easy to replace Heidi. I'm talking about stage presence here not fashion, god knows her taste is "questionable."


As much as I love Heidi, the inconsistency of judging this season has made it almost unwatchable, and I feel so badly for this talented group of designers. That inconsistency can only be put at Heidi's doorstep, IMO. Without consistent judging from week to week, none of the designers knows from one challenge to the next what criteria needs to be met. There is no clear voice, as with "slutty, slutty, slutty" or "it isn't aesthetically pleasing" to make the designers stretch themselves and grow. Please, producers (cough**Heidi**cough) move back to NYC! The consistency of having Michael and Nina there is missed and is needed badly!


Having recently watched Project Runway Canada, PR Australia, and Project Catwalk (UK), I can say that it is the ensemble that makes it work, not a single person. Australia - works. Canada - doesn't work. Catwalk - works.

Definitely so much of the ensemble missing this season from US is hurting the show. As much as I love Heidi and Tim, 50% is not enough.

I'd say if Nina, Michael, and Tim would stay, then Heidi must go.


Be careful what you wish for; the British Project Catwalk was vastly different when the gorgeous and talented Elizabeth Hurley was replaced with Kelly Osborne. The wrong host can be deadly, but a good host is not impossible to find.

That said, I really miss Garcia and Kors. The one person who should NEVER be replaced is Tim Gunn, IMHO.


I think people like John Varvatos, Max Azria and even Tommy Hilfiger have a pretty good idea of what makes good design.

But I think the inconsistent judging may be more that Heidi's opinion, as both the producer and only regular judge who's been on the show these last few weeks, has ridden roughshod over the more experienced designers who've sat in the Duchess' chair. (Zoe doesn't really know what she's talking about and can't replace Nina.)

Plus, where I think the guest judges, at least the designers, fall flat is in that they are not nearly as TV-savvy or camera ready as Kors. All three men didn't seem to want to get into the soundbite and came across as dull.

So if the judging has been inconsistent, it's probably because Miss Tight Shiny and Short is the only voice that's being heard and the others are being edited to support her opinion.


I'd say keep Heidi, even if it means staying in LA and not having Kors and Nina. All of that is important, but having Heidi is essential to the show and unless they found someone else REALLY fabulous to replace her I just think it would lose so much. Like when that weird asian robot chick replaced Padma for Top Chef Masters.


I do like Heidi, and her occasional on-the-point bitchiness. But NYC, the Duchess and Nina are too good to miss. Plus, Project Runway could steal Iman from the ProRun Canada series--Iman's fabulous at the hosting/bitching combo.


I'm hoping that all the litigation issues really messed with the scheduling and production, as we know it did with some of the challenges. I think that it would be hard to mess with any component of the show (Heidi, Nina, Michael, Tim or NY) and still make it successful -- at least not without a lot of work on the part of the producers (which we are not getting this season). Michael and Nina are consistent in their judging over the entire arc of the show and they know the designers previous work and their evolution as the show goes on; they really push the designers to move forward. Christopher would have been admonished for sending down full-skirted drapey dresses down the runway each week if they were in the judges' chairs from the beginning. A different guest judge every week is not going to be able to do that, no matter how competent or knowledgeable they are. (Having said that I thought the film costumer who was judging this last week was pretty good). The show is switching between LA & NY from now on, right? So hopefully that will mean that there is enough lead time to work out everyone's schedules in advance. There are 2 Fashion Weeks, no? One for spring and one for fall? So why can't the LA season show at the opposite one? An alternative would be to have Michael and Nina be the regular NY judges and pick 2 more people to be the regular LA judges so there is some consistency. Just don't mess with Tim! XX's


Nina and Michael all the way! Heidi doesn't really add that much to the show. I'm sure they can find someone else to say auf weidersehen.


Nina, Michael, New York.

Heidi can just set up house in NYC for the month of filming if she wants to be in it. The show really suffers from lack of our dearest, bitchiest, funniest judges. PLUS, in NYC, you get a consistently higher quality of guest judges, especially the tippy top name designers.


Love Heidi...but noone critiques quite like Nina and Michael...im all for AUF Heidi, NYC is where its at!


While Heidi has come into her own in terms of comments a little more each season -- and has done more since Nina and the Duchess were AWOL -- she basically has nothing new to say most of the time. Her wrap-up is mostly a summary of the other's comments. So let her go and bring back the people who know what they're talking about.


I don't want to do without Heidi, but the show has definitely lost something with this move. LA is not a fashion capitol, for one thing. And without Nina and the Duchess, it's boring. Why can't Heidi move her family to NY during filming?


I love Heidi, and I would hate to see her go. But... I really miss Michael and Nina. Why can't we have all of them back in NYC?

Producers, MAKE IT WORK! Tim, Heidi, Michael, Nina. In New York. You have until midnight.


In all of the comments - I've mostly read them, but some skimmingm - I see everyone bloaming Michael's and Nina's being missing on the move to LA.

I thought that I'd seen that they were OVERSEAS? If that is true WTH difference doesd it make whether the show was in LA for Heidi's convenience?


^In season 4, the contestants went to Paris for a couple of episodes (jetset outfit and couture dress) but returned to NYC afterwards.

I think the problems with the show this season is that Bunim Murray are really inexperienced in producing design competition show and they also had to deal with the lawsuit going on at the time of filming.


i enjoyed last week's guest judge, the costume designer, it was refreshing to hear honest criticisms spoken well yet encouragingly. kudos to her! i miss the Duchess and Nina too! but you i don't want a show without Heidi either.


I too am extremely peeved by the lack of Nina and Michael. What irks me most is the fact that the producers apparently thought if they just pretended they were still there maybe we wouldn't notice! When they were trying to convince everyone the move to Lifetime wouldn't ruin the show, they pointed out that Heidi, Tim, Nina, and Michael would still be there - RIGHT? And then every week Heidi introduces the judges without even saying "filling in for Nina Garcia" or whatever, like they're hoping if nobody mentions it we'll forget.

I think the show REALLY needs Nina and Michael (or at least SOME consistent team of judges) to kick the designers' asses into gear because clearly this isn't working. The designers have zero motivation to take any real risks because they're winning (or ending up in the top three) with fairly unoriginal pieces a lot of the time and they're not getting TORN APART by Nina and Michael on the runway like they should for playing it safe. And they're not getting any criticism for getting stuck in ruts, for not breaking out of their own favorite aesthetic, etc. Imagine if Rami was in this season? He'd have made the same dress week after week because there would be no one there to kick his ass for it.


All I need to keep watching is my Tim! If he goes, I go...


I feel so so sorry for the designers this season! They keep getting convoluted information, judged on criteria that wasn't explained properly to the guest judges and I have to say, Heidi's taste level took a dive to the dregs without The Duchess and La Nina to define parameters.

I have strongly disagreed with MK and Nina in the past and probably will in the future, but there is a through-line with them that doesn't exist now. MK, Nina, Heidi and Tim have been doing this show for five seasons and have built relationships and and understanding of each of their roles that is so sorely missing this season with the rotating panel.

Take this past week's challenge. No dis on John Varvados because he at least put out commentary that was understandable, but get a designer who puts on a real show, like Betsy Johnson if this challenge was supposed to be costume-based. It just doesn't work.

Heidi, sorry, frauchen, your out. And bring fashion back to its home, NYC. Fashion in LA is based on celebrity, stylists and fads only. Auf!


Leave LA and go back NYC. The judging this season is all over the map and the show needs Duchess and Nina, and of course,Tim Gunn too. Heidi's alright, but she's getting boring fast. I'm sure there's another model who could do as good a job or better.


I'd much rather have Kors and Nina back. They are astute and cut to the chase. LA lacks the energy of New York. This season just really doesn't have it in either the challenges or the judging.


I miss Nina and Michael dearly, but if they really can't be in LA for the whole season, then they need to pick new LA judges, actual designers who can be there for every episode. Then they could have brought Nina and Michael in as guest judges when they were actually available while still having the continuity of the same judging panel.


TampaBay said:
100% agree that Sir Tim cannot be replaced. However, does anyone other than me feel like 1) Tim is phoning it in this season, 2) Other than Epperson and auffed Meth-Head Boy, Tim really does not care for any of the current contestant designers as individuals and has even less respect for them as designers and 3) Tim seems very preoccupied with something other than the workroom. Just my take.

Tim WAS preoccupied. They were filming that reunion special AT THE SAME TIME, and Tim had to deal with all the weirdness and Santino on THAT show as well as THIS show.

I'm amazed that Tim retained his sanity.


Michael and Nina need to come back. I am sick of Heidi and her absolutely horrible choice in clothing. Remember when the Duchess said-tight/short/shiny=slutty, slutty, slutty. Someone needs to tell Heidi that she looks horrendous on a weekly basis. Oh and she isn't 20 anymore. There is no chemistry left in the judging discussions. B-o-r-i-n-g.


I really just want consistant judges.

I would prefer to have Nina and Michael. Last episode, the other three judges talked while Heidi just sat back and said "so what do we think about blah-blah's look?" I love her to death, but I think Michael and Nina would win.


fashionablylate

As much as I love Heidi, I have very definitely missed Michael and Nina, especially Michael. I nearly squealed when I heard his voice during the previews for next week's ep. Go back to NYC!


No contest...New York, Nina, and Michael. I miss the "insane crotch" comments as well. Plus, I'd love to see him get the giggles again and be unable to stop laughing. That was priceless!!

Sorry, Heidi!!


EEK...bad omission...Tim Gunn is definitely a nonnegotiable as well!! He has to stay no matter what. Love him!!


I miss unfiltered/untrained Heidi from the first season. If I could have her back, then I would want her. Since I can't, I would like to see NYC w/Nina and Michael Kors.


I agree with Nancy, who wrote:

"Nina and the Duchess ARE the judges."

Does anyone else think the move to Lifetime has cut the potential lifetime of the show down considerably?

Love you T & L!


That's a tough one, but I would have to say bring the show back to New York. I do love Heidi, but the show suffers tremendously without Kors and Nina.


Nina, Nina, Nina... :-)

It's just not the same without her and the Duchess.

It's interesting that some people think that Heidi is the show. I'm not sure I'd notice if she left...

Now, if *TIM* wanted the show in LA... have it in LA!


Susan wrote:
"Does anyone else think the move to Lifetime has cut the potential lifetime of the show down considerably?"


Regardless of the move to Lifetime, the longevity of "Project Runway" is dependent on the challenges. Womenswear is limited and they are bound to repeat challenges (i.e. make a pretty dress, model as client, unconventional materials, etc.). The show could expand to Accessories, Childrenswear and Menswear (although that challenge proved to be disastrous), but there are very few designers that specialize in those fields.


How is this Sophie's Choice? I'd auf Heidi in a second to get La Nina back. She's always ferocious and usually right. The Duchess is someone I never thought I'd miss, but so few other designers have anything interesting to say. Tim could fill in just about all of Heidi's duties on his own; he could even preside over the judging if he didn't vote. Or see if DVF would commit to host for a season. She's every bit as sharp as Nina and Michael, but has a warmth that could blend well with Tim.


I say lose Heidi, they can always get another pretty face to present the show. Replacing Michael and Nina would be much harder.


Dare I say that Project Runway has jumped the shark?? And Heidi is the post-cool Fonzie?? Oh man, I miss the New York days ... I used to live and breathe by my Tivo'd PR episodes. Now, it's not even a disappointment when the end of the show gets cut off. This show needs some help, Stat!!!


Heidi is needed for the hosting while Nina and Micheal are needed for the judging.


Without Nina and Michael the judging just feels so ... generic. And I know that sounds harsh considering (most of) the guest judges have paid their dues in the fashion world... but it's kinda like if (and I apologize for this analogy) Simon left American Idol so that the producers could accommodate to Ryan's Seacrest's schedule. I love me some Seacrest, but Simon IS that show.


Without a doubt, I would take La Nina and the Duchess. They really were able to cut to the chase with the designers and offered great insight. These guest judges just don't have the same acidity. It's almost like they're trying to be polite.

As for Heidi, her taste level is questionable at best and she doesn't have the personality, insight or wit to carry the show.

Plus New York is New York! Where is the inspiration in L.A.?


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bitchybitchybitchy

oh honey, I vote for New York, Nina and the Duchess. And I don't say this lightly, as I do like Frau Seal.


On any given day I would rather have Michael and Nina.....


This is my first time commenting and the subject is absolutely perfect. I'm getting really irritated that The Duchess and Nina are not around to provide perspective. Having consistent judges is what helps decide when a designer's body of work isn't improving or can't be improved (a la Bitchell).

I'm tired of seeing three random people on the panel. Bring back the consistency, please PR.


That is a tough one as I can imagine the show without any of them. I think though that New York was a better "base", and we need the Duchess and Nina back. Their input is too valuable. Maybe Heidi can take a few episodes off as needed to be with her family, if they switched back to NY?


I'm a relative newcomer to the show; I'd only watched a couple of the NY/Bravo seasons before this one.

I see Tim and Heidi as the core of the show; while I liked Michael and Nina, I can live without them. However, I think it's vital that they get consistency on the judging panel. Have Michael and Nina as "guest" judges when they can make it, and get a couple of good people who can serve on the panel EVERY week.

I think that it's important to track the progression of the designers, and call out the ones who cling to the same memes week after week. I don't see that happening with the current format.


Tim, Michael and Nina ... they are the show.

I heart Heidi, but I can see Iman step in when Heidi is gone.


I agree with suzq. If you can't have Michael and Nina, then get replacements who can stay more than one episode. It's the constant change that is jarring and difficult to digest. We could get used to a new Michael and Nina. We just need a chance to get to know them.

Here's an idea: in the seasons that are in NY, it's Michael and Nina. When the show shoots in LA, it's two other good snarky judges who know their stuff. Just keep them consistent from week to week!


I do like Heidi and I think she adds more to the show than we realize--does anyone remember how bad the host was the first season of Top Chef for instance or have you ever watched Tyra's excruciating performance on Top Model? HOWever, look how bizarre, inconsistent and BORING the judging has been this season. If the move to LA means less Nina and Michael, then I say nay.

Wouldn't you be moved to tears to hear Michael coin this season's equivalent of "Hello?! Slutty slutty slutty!!"


I'll throw my vote in for consistency..... if it's not Nina and the Duchess, then it needs to be SOMEONE of substance on a regular basis... it's not fair to the contestants if they can't get a read of what is expected and design to that. At least two of the judges need to be there EVERY week or not at all. one rotating person adds spice, all rotating makes a mess!
JMB


Late to the game, but.

Sacrifice Heidi. The lack of a consistent point of view from the other 2 permanent chairs has been wreckingt the show.

Auf!


1. Nina + Michael were too predictable.

2. No Nina + No Michael = no consistency and no broad perspective about each contestant.

Ergo, ensure that at least one regular judge (besides Heidi) is available for each episode. And ensure that the stand-in has both great stature and on-camera assertiveness so that the two good judges aren't pushed aside by Heidi and the celebrity guest.

As for location, New York is not the center of the universe. The fashion communities in other cities will never grow if they aren't spotlighted.


Here's my two cents:

Heidi is iconic as far as PR goes, and the show wouldn't be the same without her and her catchphrase. If PR taping only lasts one month than I don't see why Heidi can't commit to that time period in New York.

I love Nina and Michael as judges. They've been there since the beginning, and they know how to rip those bitches apart. If the show had to lose them, I guess I could live with that. But lose them completely! No guest judges in their place. It makes the judging inconsistent, which is off putting. Either be there as a judge every week or find permanent replacements.


While I like her, Heidi is just the consistent eye candy. She doesn't come up with particularly thoughtful criticisms. Michael is a designer and can appreciate the work that goes into creating garments. Nina knows fashion from a more, shall we say, "academic" point of view than Heidi does. Heidi would have to go. The designers on the show often seem more moved by Michael's and Nina's critiques than by Heidi's.


SusanID
9/27/09 12:21 PM
My theory is that Tim is so accustomed to Nina and Kors and their style of judging that he could give great advice on how the contestant's garment would fare in the critique. Because the judging was CONSISTENT. Now, who the hell knows? Different people every week. People Tim probably doesn't know from Adam.



Well, if I remember correctly, Tim is usually waiting in the wings watching as the judging is being filmed, so he would usually have something to say if he disagreed with the judge's deliberations (ere goes 'Tim's Take').

Now this being in LA, and since Tim is constantly flying back and forth to take care of business in NYC, he may not be waiting off-set for the judging anymore.


As far as I'm concerned, Tim's the only thing the show simply cannot do without. While I would love to have Michael and Nina back as regular judges, if their time commitments are such that they simply cannot do it, find two other knowledgeable fashion faces to be recurring judges. The problem is not that Michael and Nina have such unique viewpoints that they are irreplaceable. The problem is the lack of the consistency that they brought to the judging.


I think that Nina and Michael are the only ones strong enough to keep Heidi in check. Let's face it, Heidi's taste is questionable as best, and she needs to be reigned in from time to time. The guest judges just don't seem to be able to stand up to Heidi. I'm convinced that is why this season of PR is disappointing. The show is just not the same without Michael and Nina. Sorry, Heidi...but if someone needs to be aufed, it's you.


PR has jumped the Haifisch.


They need to have Nina and Michael ALL THE TIME and for EVERY CHALLENGE. It's not up for discussion.


This is a choice? I miss Michael and Nina's comments horribly (although you do help close that wound). Heidi just looks pretty and announces the challenge. Yes, occasionally, she lets the snark fly, but still...all I want in life is to go get drunk with Michael and Nina and listen to the shit fly.


I am jonesing to hear the words "It's so M.O.B." on the show. I really miss Michael Kors & Nina.


We need all of them back in NY.


I could live without Heidi, but I would miss Nina terribly.


"Lisa said...

Heidi's contribution to the show is so predictable and oft-rehearsed she could just remain in LA when the show's next taped in NY, and mail her performance in."


hahahaha true


The moment they announced the move to LA I knew it wasn't going to work. NY is a main character on the show, that's where fashion thrives in this country. LA is for movies and Hollywood bimbos.


LifeTimeforHomos

" Jamie said...

You can't replace Heidi. I love Nina and Michael, but it's not their show. Project Runway is defined by a few key elements, and Heidi Klum is one of them. "


I disagree, they could have any fabulous model as the hostess; they should invite Iman, she is freaking awesome.


I just can't see the show without Heidi or any of them. They just have to bring the show back to NY and accommodate their schedules.


C'mon, we need tight, short and shiny on the show.


I can live without Heidi, Michael Kors and Nina Garcia, but not Tim Gunn. He's the reason why I still watch this show, well, he and your posts, TLO : )


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