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The birds, darlings! THE BIRDS ATE MY DRESS!


Well it's about god damn time, wouldn't you say? And does anyone think it was a coincidence that the minute they took fabric away from these babies, they all turned on each other, providing the most entertaining hour of the season so far? They should take the fabric away permanently. Or better yet, take away a different element each week. Fabric - but no thread! Fabric and thread - but no closures! Fabric, thread, and closures - but no dress forms! Sewing machines without needles! Needles without sewing machines! The possibilities are ENDLESS. Producers, watching designers flail about in panic and turn on each other is FUN, we don't care what any of the purists say.

Gaze into the face of a liar, kittens! A LIAR! And not just any liar, but the liar who lied the biggest lie in the history of Project Runway!!!!!

Puh. Leeze.
Sure, it was a whopper, and sure, he made himself look pretty foolish in the process, but we tend to think that signing a form declaring that you have taken no fashion-related reading materials with you and then stashing them under the bed counts as a somewhat bigger lie than this. Hell, "Kara jumped up and down backstage and that's why my jumpsuit is falling apart" was a bigger lie than this.

This was just basic ass-covering. Laughable ass-covering ("My other dress is a Dior."), but nothing all that shocking to anyone who's been watching the show for awhile. Maybe they meant "The biggest lie in the history of Project Runway on Lifetime."

There is a strong temptation to link his little fib with his professed addiction issues, but frankly, we don't get paid enough to do that kind of psychoanalysis and besides it would be awfully presumptuous of us.

We will say this: watching him over these last 5 episodes we were struck by, well, how much energy he seems to suck out of the room. He's either melting down, about to melt down, or strutting around making a big show of how he's not melting down. It must have been exhausting for everyone else.

Alright, enough of this Lifetime Movie of the Week drama. Let's look at the dress.

Model: Emarie Wiltz


It wasn't horrible. Bad, yes. And a decision by the judges with which we agreed, but all things considered, it wasn't an eyesore.

What's with the Wilma Flintstone hemline?

For the most part, it was a deadly dull dress that he tried to spice up with some poorly chosen design elements, like the aforementioned hemline and that weird boob spike.

Honestly, he might have been able to salvage it if he hadn't gone with the godawful styling. Putting poor Emarie in those red hooker shoes and teasing her hair out to stripper levels may have been the worst decisions he made all episode.

One thing's for sure: you do not FUCK with Tim Gunn's sense of propriety.

"Designers, I am apoplectic over Johnny's inconceivable utterances that insult the very concept of truth! It is so preposterous, ridiculous and fatuous! I'm so beside myself that I'm actually running out of words to describe this heinous act that besmirches the good name of Project Runway! Fiction! It was pure fiction! A fabrication, even! I'm heading back to my office for a drink and a thesaurus. You're on your own."

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185 comments:

My roommate and I were giggling throughout Tim's speech at the end. He was just. so. offended!


Good fucking god, I might actually be first and I haven't even watched the episode yet.


"a drink and a thesaurus" -- hahahahaha!


Seriously, Tim Gunn looked like he was ready to cut a bitch. Walking in and fiddling with his cufflinks... he may be a mob boss in disguise. Has anyone seen Johnny since the taping of the show?


I also loved Tim's way of showing his contempt for Johnny's blasphemy: tugging on his cuffs and NO HUGS FOR YOU!

The epitome of a classy gentleman, that Tim.


The Dog ate my homework! I mean, the iron ate my dress!

Puhleeze indeed. And did you notice that Tim kept adjusting his cuff so he didn't have to give Johnny the customary hug goodbye? In fact, he looked like if Johnny tried to get close, Tim'd take his eye out with a cufflink.


The dress was bad. Johnny was obviously over his emotional and spiritual head from episode one on, and it was time to go home. But, God, Tim Gunn is HOT when he's angry. I got all excited.


You had me at the graphic from "The Birds." Hilarious.


that's it? that's the lie?

wow. that wasn't a big deal. (despite the dear Gunn). i'd agree that the other instances you mentioned were more troubling.

can't wait to see more of the dresses. i hope to catch up on episodes this weekend- finally!


I think Tim might be the greatest person ever.


This whole thing was just fuckin' stupid.

There is a little more to Tim's little rant than what they're showing. Johnny S obviously must have pissed him off in some way beyond this.

Because this whole "lie" thing was pure unadulterated bullshit.

These people gave a win to someone who cheated on their BP project, who was also an addict, and also very arrogant and whiny. Johnny was no where nearly as mean-spirited as their chosen one.

They let another fucker who not only didn't create a damn dog outfit for the challenge, but also had pattern books that everyone knew about.

Just...ugh.

I'll wait for The Office and 30 Rock to come back for now.


The first thing I noticed was that Tim was very curt with Johnny telling him to go clean up his workspace and did not give him a hug as per usual. I've never seen Tim so offended! I would not want to be on Tim Gunn's bad side. Bad move, Johnny!


I think they did the right thing here, but I was hoping that Nicholas would get at least a rap on the knuckles for total unprofessionalism.


Agree completely with your take on Lie-Gate. I could probably think of 20 worse offenses in PR history, if I had the time. Santino's declaration that "Project Runway didn't make me, I made Project Runway" comes to mind.


Sorry to see Emarie go, she is adorable. Johhny, not so much. And yes, lying and making excuses is typical for addicts. He probably needed more sober time before attempting to do this show.

Blanche


OK, but I'm ready for Peppermint Patty to say sayonara as well. That was punk? Please. It would have been more punk to make a pretty dress and then make strategically placed rips.

And maybe I'm crazy, but do the judges seem to have it in for Gordana, when she's producing much better garments than some of the other designers who keep skating through? I liked her dress last night. And Carol Hannah wuz robbed.


I wonder how badly he was going on and on about the iron ate his dress. Also maybe he really was that much of an energy sucker for everyone there. Tim did say he would be polarizing. It seemed everyone heard his story and maybe he told it so many times that recounting it on the runway was just 1 too many for Tim

anyway it was deserving to be on the bottom 2. In fact his and Nicholas' were the only outright losing garments. The difference between them and the rest of the pack was pretty glaring. They really should have had only them at the bottom and not go through the formality of putting poor Gordana there as well

Frank


OK, I laughed hard enough at the recap (and the show, truth be told) but the comments here are what are going to get me fired. Hee!

I couldn't disagree with the auf though. He seems like a nice enough guy but he was past his freshness date. And even if he wasn't, Tim would have found a way to put a hit on him after this episode.


"And did you notice that Tim kept adjusting his cuff so he didn't have to give Johnny the customary hug goodbye?"

He already hugged Johnny in the first episode. Johnny used up his allotment.


Anonymous
9/18/09 9:51 AM "And yes, lying and making excuses is typical for addicts."

Lying and making excuses is typical for anyone who lies and makes excuses. Addiction hasn't got shit to do with it.


I, too, thought it was a very entertaining episode, though I'll save my anger over Gordana being Bottom 3 for that thread when it happens. OK, and my anger over this ongoing lack of real judges for another time. OK, and how I wished Nicolas could have been aufed, too, just for because Nicolas.

Instead, yes, watching Tim "lose his temper" was like slamming down a couple shots of espresso at 11 p.m. EST. Wow. That explains his caustic remarks in the pre-season press. I kept waiting for Johnny the New Jeffrey to show up, but instead we got something much more muted -- though I can certainly see how much more that would offend Tim than overt misbehavior or aggression would.


sweetlilvoice

As someone who is afraid of The Birds, I love the image from it! I hope we see Tim's sexy gangsta anger in the next Alex cartoon.


Yeah, we got to Johnny repeating his fib on the runway and I realized that this was, actually, the Big Lie. Really? S3 Keith, you've been exonerated by Lifetime's marketing department.

Judging was fine last night. Once again, I would have placed some people differently. But another week without Michael and Nina was painful.


I don't like or condone lying but if they liked his dress better he should have stayed.

It did remind me of Santino and the falling apart outfit for Kara. But also reminds me of people like JP from TFS and others when they BS "my outfit is etheral and inspired by gossamer wings" and no there are not staples and saftey pins holding my creation together.


Like last week when Tim trashed Q's dress and she pitched it, this week Tim basically forced Johnny to pitch his. And he RAVED about Gordana's and she's in the bottom? I just don't get the way he is acting. The reaction seemed OTT for what we saw.

When I first heard birds on her shoulders... *I* started thinking Cinderella when the birds dress Cind. Now I think that would have been a great inspiration for how to use the birds on the shoulders. OF course then the dress should look something like Christopher's dress.


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I am annoyed at Nicholas's wrong comments saying there wasn't a "steamer"; Johnny said it was an IRON. Now I am do not know if Johnny even used an iron - but I have had issues with the steam setting on an iron spewing hot water all over.

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While I like Stella, I don't think Johnny's "save" attempt was as bad as her's with the garbage bags.


I really didn't get Tim's indignant response. I agree with a previous poster that there must have been more to it, otherwise it seems like a ridiculous overreaction.

I was ready to see Johnny and Emarie go, but no Kors or Nina AGAIN? I am getting more than a little sick of their prolonged absence.


Nobody, but nobody irons newspaper, except the "fatuos" rich bastards who live on the island of Palm Beach. Or rather, their butlers. I know. I live in the hood, A.K.A. not the island, across the bridge.

Better luck next time, Johnny!


Actually, I'm surprised that Johnny chucked the original dress in its entirety. He did seem way too in love with his origami cranes that he had tunnel vision when it came to the design of the dress part of the dress. It might have been cool if the dress was made entirely of paper cranes or origami elements, but instead he stuck some birds on top of a Vincent-like tarp design sheath.


OH! BTW, this is somewhat unrelated, but did you guys read about how Tim was snubbed at Diane Von Furstenberg's show at Fashion Week?

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/blogs/the-thread/No-Room-for-Tim-Gunn-at-DVF-59333702.html

He didn't get an invitation to her show for the first time in 12 years. I wonder if it was oversight or if she's pissed about something. I also wonder if she's equally pissed about him going to the press about it.


TLo said " Hell, "Kara jumped up and down backstage and that's why my jumpsuit is falling apart" was a bigger lie than this."

Yes, indeed! or the one that Santino was one of the best designers in that season (to make it to finals)....pul-leeze!!

I was rooting through the whole episode for Johnny to get the heave-ho. His time was SO up, it's pretty clear that he was playing out of his league. Perhaps we can get equally lucky next week with another different challenge that will knock Peppermint Patty off the playing field (I can dream!)

LOVED Tim's speaking up at the very end on Johnny's fiction - You don't mess with our Mr. Gunn!

And I'm with you, Katyola, on wondering why the judges have it in for Gordana....her dress was the closest to really looking like something one would see on a runway - which given the materials is no mean feat!

srq


Hilarious and all true. The dress may not have been an eyesore but you could tell there was no effort, concept or care put into making it. The weirdest part was that he thought the dumb lie would save him.


Boys - I think I fell in love. The Birds. Seriously? Genius!

What can I say? The dress had a really cool "pop art" idea that I think that if he had that idea to start with and spent his entire time on it he probably would have been safe. This was a classic case of not being able to redirect in time pressures.

Also, did anyone else think when he was doing the crossword puzzle, hey Johnny, do a frickin crossword puzzle dress?!? It would have been AMAZING compared to the bird assery part 2.


What an idiot. How many times did he tell that steamer story?

The producers should have stuck with their previous decision not to have him in the show.

I love that even Tim was outraged by his lie! It was a lie that involved Tim, so I can see why it was particularly annoying to him.

I know you'll get to all of the dresses eventually, but I was stunned that Gordana was called out for making a wearable dress. Out of newspaper. Hello?! Like she said, the challenge with these bizarre materials is to make something wearable. How can they put her in the bottom 3 for that?!


Where is the Duchess and Nina? Where are they? Seriously? We need them back.

And yes, Johnny's dress was bad.


One of your best lines ever -

>I'm heading back to my office for a drink and a thesaurus.<

xoxox


Love "The Birds."

I missed the first 35 minutes of the show, and it's not up on MyLifetime.

So the lie was that the iron ruined his red dress? Can somebody tell me what did happen to it? Thanks.


Anonymous said: "I was ready to see Johnny and Emarie go, but no Kors or Nina AGAIN? I am getting more than a little sick of their prolonged absence."

Yes, it'll be good to see both of them back but at least this week we didn't have the nasty-model-disrespecting-sexual-harassment troll who was on last week! And Tommy H. is a designer (although he was kinda lamely laconic with his comments) and the desperate housewife managed to stay away from the "OH, I'd wear that" pronouncements.

but, yes, 'tis time for the Duchess and LaNina to reappear -this show is in dire need of them.

srq


Those eyeballs were creepy!

(another suz)


That was an awesome episode. And most of the dresses were really good, too. I loved the runway show.

Poor Johnny. His dress was bad, and his lie was as uninteresting as it was transparent. I think he will not be missed.


BB,

Tim hated the dress, so Johnny crumpled it up and tossed it into a trash can. Or, rather, at a trash can: he missed.


I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt that Gordana's bottom three appearance last night was BS. That dress was to die for! And I thought the point was to make it wearable and not look like a bunch of newspapers glued together. Really, was it any "duller" than Althea's collage dress that the judges creamed themselves over?


Tim started up the bus. Wow.

Guys, you have to bust on Prince RockNRollRomance, aka black bodice puffy white skirt Christopher. I am on to him already. Enuff.
Jr. Goddess


TED said...
BB,

Tim hated the dress, so Johnny crumpled it up and tossed it into a trash can. Or, rather, at a trash can: he missed.

9/18/09 10:13 AM

Not just that, but he tried to use that lie on the rest of the designers, who saw the whole thing. Then he slapped the hooker dress together and did a crossword.

There's some lazy bitches this season, no?


I'm really tired of Lifetime's overuse of preview hyperbole.

Now that I see the dress up close in pictures, yes, he was the right choice to go home. I initially had Nicolas pegged with his ridiculous craft project, but now I see how crappily construction Johnny's dress is.


I can see how they're saying it was the biggest lie...I mean, having pattern books is cheating, but that's not exactly the same thing, and the kara jumping up and down thing might have been exaggeration, or even true in Santino's eyes, I'm sure you get paranoid when you've put something together that isn't really made well. But Johnny was on the stage, looking into the judge's faces, and telling a bald-faced lie that is provable with video evidence! Maybe the marketing folks meant that it's the boldest lie told in PR history, or something.


hahahahha! Oh Tim. Don't ever change!

Johnny: Please, bitch, I am all out of love for you. I pitied you and THIS is how you repay me?!

Ok, fine, I'm not as good at the indignation as Tim is. Johnny deserved the Auf - but I'll miss the drama!

And oh boy - no hug for Johnny! He was certainly sent packing by Sir Tim! Wow, I've never seen Tim THIS livid before! All that quiet fury! It was a joy to watch =D


schizophrenic0
9/18/09 10:19 AM
Really, was it any "duller" than Althea's collage dress that the judges creamed themselves over?

No, but Althea's is this year's Rami. She could throw a pile of shit down the runway and they'll call it ice cream.

Plus she's, blonde, and leggy like a "typical" LA girl, or better yet, like a certain German supermodel.


What I don't understand is, WHY did he lie? Wouldn't it make more sense to turn the crane dress story into an amusing anecdote, admit he re-started from scratch, and go from there with a wing (!) and a prayer?


Johnny just seemed lazy to me. And the dress was ass, it looked like he glued a bunch of squares to a muslin backing. I could do that and I can't sew.

Tim = LOVE


LOL my first thought was when I saw all that red was "Carrie" + prom scene + pigs blood "There all going to laugh at you There all going to laugh at you"

I just hope this dude doesn't relapse...seriously :|


Tim emotes! Tim emotes AND complains AND chastises! Hilarious.

But what I am waiting for is the photo gallery of Heidi in outfits better-made but Just As Hootchie as this one which she slammed as reminding her of an outfit for "a professional" in air quotes.

I was in sheer, stunned disbelief when I heard the words come out of her mouth, thinking, "C'mon, woman, is it the color of the shoes that distinguishes this from, oh, 18 or 20 of the ensembles you've worn in public in the last two years?"


""My other dress is a Dior.""




The next great bumper sticker.

--GothamTomato


Lindsey,

How about when he came back on the reunion show and said that the producers had framed him and made the whole thing up?

Also, Santino knew he was lying. He told poor Kara not to move when she was backstage and then lied in front of her and made her have to sit there and listen to it because she was too nice to call him on it.

On the other hand, Johnny did create his story out of whole cloth (or whole paper) so it was probably equally blatant. But it certainly didn't have the same impact that the other two did, although that was probably more a function of editing.

You could say that calling that dress Dior-like was the biggest lie in PR history, but maybe we can just agree that he's delusional.


"Designers, I am apoplectic over Johnny's inconceivable utterances that insult the very concept of truth! It is so preposterous, ridiculous and fatuous! I'm so beside myself that I'm actually running out of words to describe this heinous act that besmirches the good name of Project Runway! Fiction! It was pure fiction! A fabrication, even! I'm heading back to my office for a drink and a thesaurus. You're on your own."


ROFL.


"I was hanging out with all these punks in around 2000" or whenever. That's just IT:

If Peppermint Patty was hanging out with punks in NYC around 2000 (or whenever it was, it was surely after 1999), then he was hanging around when "punk" was being defined by ersatz pop-punk like Good Charlotte and the like. In other words, faux punk. Poseur punk. Idiot punk!!

Of COURSE Tommy H. didn't recognize it as punk, because Tommy probably remembers the 70s and 80s (as much as anyone in fashion is able to remember the past—since so many of them seem doomed/determined to repeat it) and he's thinking PUNK when these kids are all thinking "punk." Sheeeeeit.


I hope you all have such blades for Peppermint Patty when she goes; because in my opinion; he's produced nothing but trash.


The Big Lie included not only the bit about the iron and the steam messing his dress up, but the part about the original dress being "Dior" instead of (Tim's words) a kindergarten craft project. Seriously, my husband could fold a few cranes while my 5yo paints a sheet of newsprint red and we can replicate it.

Nicholas was totally distracted by Johnny's crash-and-burn, and the designer who was yammering away while fitting her dress form, and pretty much what everyone else was doing. Maybe he'll get some focus next week, or maybe he'll get to join Johnny in the sequester house real soon now.


We will say this: watching him over these last 5 episodes we were struck by, well, how much energy he seems to suck out of the room. He's either melting down, about to melt down, or strutting around making a big show of how he's not melting down. It must have been exhausting for everyone else.


Amen, sisters! He needs to find his center of balance.


Katyola, I don't think it's "the judges" who have it in for Gordana I think it's Heidi..I guess she dosen't love other ladies with accents unless they are from Germany (Her Uli Lust). There was NO WAY Gordana should have been in the bottom to be honest Althea's dress was just as boring, I've seen that style dress 100 times before in satin!


Not to keep sidetracking about Gordana but I think she ended up in the bottomm based more on the techncality of the scoring rather real dislike for her garment

Unlike Johnny and Nicholas, they seem to like it, but simply not as much as the others. At least that's what Eva Longoria seemed to be saying. I'd wager the scores for the majority of the garments were very close. I imagine it came down to small innovations in the judges' eyes

Frank


bitchybitchybitchy

ah, the birds, or, as the "concierge" of The Producers would have said, "Doity, disgusting boids"....

Johnny's sell by date had come and gone. I don't have any dislike for him, but he really hadn't shown any serious design chops so his elimination didn't surprise me.
Nicolas lucked out this week, as his design was quite ho-hum.

"A drink and a thesaurus"-love you guys! I can't ever remember seeing our beloved Tim Gunn so pissed off before. Johnny must have used up all of Tim's goodwill and patience to get such a reaction.

Perhaps Alex can do a cartoon about Sir Tim and the Deadly Cufflinks? Alex? Please????


TLo, you have outdone yourselves with your Tim Gunn high-dudgeon speech! On. the. Floor!

Well, The Lie didn't live up to the Lifetime buildup, that's for sure. But I think it was the sheer *audacity* of it that made it so appalling. Because some of the designers heard Tim tell Johnny that his first dress was "bird assery" (thank you, Michael Colvin!) and saw him ball it up and toss it.

So for him to fabricate this ridiculous story about spitting irons out of thin air, tell it over and over, and then embellish it on the runway -- "It was very Dior" HAHAHAHAHAHA! -- well, I can understand why Tim was shooting his cuffs instead of hugging, or shooting, Johnny.

It was a really good challenge and a good episode. All of the outfits were interesting, and there was finally some drama! Count me among the Gordana lurkers who will have something to say about what the judges thought of her dress when the time comes!


Actually; Nicolas can be any number of comic strip characters. He could be Helga; Cathy (from Cathy), Peppermint Patty, Shagg, etc. And his attitude is RIDICULOUS for someone who produces at best, middle of the road work. Sayonara next week, I hope.


momjamin
9/18/09 10:29 AM
Nicholas was totally distracted by Johnny's crash-and-burn, and the designer who was yammering away while fitting her dress form, and pretty much what everyone else was doing.


Nikolas would have been distracted by a mosquito fart in China.

He's got one gripe over another for why he can't flaunt his feather flag.

He's not distracted, just deluded.


"Tlo said Tim said: I'm heading back to my office for a drink and a thesaurus. You're on your own."




Now that is pure poetry.

It truly never ceases to amaze me when people on reality shows, who have to know they are on camera (right?) will do something, and then deny it and/or completely change the story even though EVERY THING WAS ON CAMERA!

Do they not understand the concept of 'the camera'? Do producers tell them the cameras are just for show - don't worry, there's no film in them? Do producers recruit cast members in remote Amazonian tribes where there are no camera and so they don't understand the concept that everything that happens is recorded & so it's not like FoxNews: You cannot just create a new truth by continually repeating a lie. Could he have convinced himself that he was telling the truth?

But people on reality shows do what Johnny did all the time. It is equal parts idiotic & fascinating.

--GothamTomato


I think one of the worst things about the dress was the poor choice of squares to cut - the ones with the flashes of white made it look like the dress was falling apart, or had bits stuck to it or something.


I do believe I just peed my pants.
Thank you, lovies.


Susan said...
I'm really tired of Lifetime's overuse of preview hyperbole.


I'm with you on that one, Susan.

Loved the Wilma Flintstone hemline comment, Boys.

Tim offended & angry is like Tim at the beach. So unexpected. So unlikely. And, oh so watchable.

TLo, your take on Tim's speech was a riot.


By far the most interesting dresses of the season were created last night. However, I am happy that they waited awhile to put this challenge into the mix.

By having the "make something pretty and use whatever pretty material you want to use" for a few weeks, it was easier to separate the 'wheat from the chaff.'

If the first or second challenge sent someone home because they didn't work well with paper or candy wrappers or whatever, then a designer can cry and say, "they don't know what I am capable of! They didn't get to see my real work!"

But last night, when Johnny said something like, "I will be really mad if I get sent home for a cartoon challenge..." well, we just didn't have to worry about sympathy for him, did we?

And, wow, some of those designs were really amazing last night, weren't they?!!


Just as long as one of these fuckers dosen't stuff a model in a suitcase and flee for Canada, I'm still good with the show.


Good Riddance. And yes, where the hell is Michael Kors! And Nina! Didn't realize how good both of them were until forced to live without them. Imagine the zingers the duchess could have gotten off this week. Oh, man. I only wish Tim had failed to talk Johnny out of his bird origami. And that Kors had the opportunity to judge that dress. Ah, in my PR fantasy land.....


TanyaDiva said Nobody, but nobody irons newspaper, except the "fatuos" rich bastards who live on the island of Palm Beach. Or rather, their butlers.

It's to set the ink so it doesn't come off on one's hands.

Lilithcat, who doesn't have a butler and therefore has to wash her hands whenever she reads the New York Times.


Can I just say that I actually LOVED the judging last night? They actually disagreed with each other! More than once! That NEVER happens anymore. I know every loves The Duchess and La Nina, as I do, but between them and Heidi it's like they all share one brain (or, to be fair, one opinion). It was so interesting to hear them debate the outfits instead of just outright dismissing them or praising them.


I started feeling sorry for Johnny at the end because I think he ACTUALLY believed his story about the iron by the end. It was like he was trying it out on his model and by the runway show, in his mind, it was real.
Could have had something fun with the eyes peering up from the belt but it ended up looking like the model got drunk, lost her clothes and glued some cocktail napkins together for the walk of shame.
Good luck with your recovery Johnny.
JMB


another reason to love tim gunn. who can be so pissed & yet do it with such class. LOVE HIM.

recap great as usual boys!

xo


My mother and I watched the episode together, and when Tim started with his little speech, we looked at each other and let out a little, "Ooooooooooooooh," like the judgmental bitches we aspire to be.


Johnny went from "The Birds" to "The Hills Have Eyes."

"The Birds" dress was not that bad had he spent some time on the dress itself and not dyed it red. The combination of the red paper and the birds make it look like Tippy Headron never managed to make it to the house.

I agree with Michael Colvin that had he spent more time on concept and less time with excuses and goofing around, he could have looked down at the crossword puzzle and found the perfect inspriration for a dress.


Drucilla said....

"What I don't understand is, WHY did he lie? Wouldn't it make more sense to turn the crane dress story into an amusing anecdote, admit he re-started from scratch, and go from there with a wing (!) and a prayer?"

I agree, Drucilla. I also agree with the other posters suggesting there was more to the story than what was aired. I think Johhny's decicion to chuck his original design and to both fabricate and embellish a story is part of who Johnny is and how he might typcially deals with stressful situations or when under pressure, which is all well and good (lol), but he probably should've saved the big 'woe is me' story (from episode one) for later in the season. And like another poster said, Tim was over Johnny and all outta hugs.

- edina -

P.S. TLO, I, too, totally thought of Wilma Flinstone --- workin' the streets of Bedrock when Johnny's dress came down the runway. The only difference was that Wilma never would have worn cheesy red shoes --- she worked it barefoot.


I, too, thought it was a very entertaining episode, though I'll save my anger over Gordana being Bottom 3 for that thread when it happens.

You and me both. I was flabbergasted by the commentary she got.

As for Johnny, *fft*, whatev. I don't think it was The Biggest Lie in History, but he just went on and on and ON and ON instead of just frellin' admitting, "Tim said it sucked, I agreed, so I was a little short on time working out something new." I think if he'd been honest, Nicolas might've gone. (Though, honestly, I'd miss his bitchy commentary, if not his actual work.)

But y'all left out my favorite part of the show. Not Tim Gunn the non-hugging thesaurus, but Tim Gunn, utterer of "I am woeful." Seriously, who else could say that without it sounding wrong?


Next week Nicholas Please


GothamTomato just posted her recap of the PR Press Party where someone called out "Go Home!" when Johnny came onto the screen. Sounds like he was mega-unpopular amongst the designers and mentors alike.

Nicolas didn't do that great with the dress this week, but the trash talking (while he's getting a lot of bashing for it) was so much fun to hear. That makes me an evil person and I'm probably going to hell for saying that, but its reality TV and it made for a much more interesting show!


i am appalled by the way gordana's dress was judged.. they tearing gordana apart..they killing gordanas confidence...it looks like she was defeated when the camera was in her when she was in the bottom 3. i just hope she's not the one whose going to be eliminated next episode.. (from the preview, it looks like she was scolded again,.)


I didn't think Johnny's dress was hideous (they were all pretty good really). But it did look like a 3.5 hour dress compaired to the amount of work the others put into their looks, you could really tell the difference.
He deserved to go. Based on the dress , not the lie. The big big big lie (0 Brother @@).

I don't blame Nicolas in the least for calling him out. He was ask after all. But Tim Gunn's remarks at the end of the episode were a bit over the top and wordy, considering all the lies that he has heard and seen since he started with the program.


"It was pure fiction! A fabrication, even! "

did anyone hear this in their heads as spoken by snagglepuss??


God, I miss Tim's Take.


Hell, I watched Tim's outburst 3 times before I went to bed last night. Watching Shirin's and Louise's and Althea's reactions just gave me the giggles - total Nancy Pelosi jaw drops.

I was HOPING Tim would use the word ACRIMONIOUS. (Father Mulcahey in M*A*S*H says that in high-pitched rage to Hawkeye).

As for Johnny - his dress was the only one that looked thoughtless. Everyone else had worked their butts off. He literally just gave up.

This is the only challenge this season that was really fun to watch.


If Johnny reads this blog, I just want to say to him that I hope he doesn't fall back on the drugs again for any reason, it's not worth it, man. Being on this show is great exposure, you will get clients from it, so keep working. I think we all realize that PR is basically a game show and that all the designers are picked for being talented in the first place, but some just can't complete the challenges for whatever reason.


Because of the network switch, were they not even allowed to SPEAK of Jeffrey's newspaper dress from recycle challenge in S3? Everyone acted like this was some weird new idea and no one had ever done it before (of course not TDTG, who had the whole history of paper garments memorized, sans Jeffrey's entry, of course.....) And Christina (1125am), I heard Snagglepuss, too. Funny!
A Drink and a Thesaurus- love.


As jay would say, that's a LOT of talk for such a boring dress. Johnny could not handle the pressure, no wonder they didn't choose him the first two times he tried.


Good riddance! Sorry, never liked his attitude.


tanyadiva said...
Nobody, but nobody irons newspaper, except the "fatuos" rich bastards who live on the island of Palm Beach. Or rather, their butlers. I know. I live in the hood, A.K.A. not the island, across the bridge.

Of course they do. I'm sure some of the designers may have ironed portions of their creations to un-wrinkle them. Any home sewist who has ironed a pattern after taking it out of the envelope, or who has ironed a piece of newspaper to tape in a lengthening adjustment to the pattern's sleeve or waistline knows that this is not a strange or impossible behavior in the world of sewing. But, here's the thing -- even if Johnny HAD ironed the first dress, spitting from the iron wouldn't have ruined the WHOLE garment and might not even have dissolved any glue.

So it might have been a partial lie - yes, he might have actually ironed it at one point, but no, that action clearly hadn't destroyed the first garment. Everybody saw him rip the intact garment off the mannequin and, showboating for the camera, ball it up and toss it toward the garbage can in the corner.

He deserved the auf. First, he did TWO bad garments this episode.

Second, he deserved it for making dishonest excuses. If he thought his fellow designers were going to let him get away with that whopper on the runway when they were all competing for $100,000, he's an idiot. Also, he apparently didn't realize that when you showboat for the cameras and rip an intact garment off the mannequin to throw it into the garbage like a basketball, the cameras ARE GOING TO RECORD IT. He should have realized that his lie was contradicted by the very act he was putting on for the cameras and that the producers would catch him in the lie and make great hay of it. His poor judgment in handling the incident says as much about his prospects for being a successful designer as does the actual garment, IMO.


I honestly hope that Johnny's behavior was unrelated to his addiction, but I can't help but suspect that the next time we see him it will be on "Celebrity Rehab."


I just love a pissed off Tim Gunn.

Johnny S. deserved to go home when he started giving his model runway lessons. What is it with short, round guys that makes them think they can do runway?


Nicholas = Kenneth Mars as Hugh Simon from the movie "What's Up Doc?"

Hugh: I think the Hugh Simon theory will stand the test of time.

Judy: Exactly what *is* that theory Mr Simon?

Hugh: I doubt you are qualified to understand it but it says that the 16th and 17th century composers developed a uniform scale platform based upon the intervals utilised in the mountaineer yodel.

Judy: And you developed this theory? That should come as a shock to Professor Findelmeyer.

Hugh: I don't know what you're talking about.

Judy: Sure you do, the Findelmeyer Proposition.

Hugh: I don't know what you're talking about, besides that has never been translated.

Judy: Just once. Harvard Musicological review, 1925. It's probably out of print now...

Frederick Larrabee: Of course! Professor Heinrich Findelmeyer, the university of Zurich, 1911, the controversial Findelmeyer Proposition, no wonder it sounded so familiar. I'm sorry Simon
[rips up the grant check]

Hugh: This is despicable.

Frederick Larrabee: Hugh, you're a bad loser, you're a plagiarist and you're nasty. I don't like you and I want you to go away.


Tim looked like he was ready to kill Johnny! I was SHOCKED!!!


I didn't see what the big deal was about the lie, so many designers have lied before. The bottom line is that his had the worst dress.


HellsKitchenDude

The dress was really bad and so was his attitude.


LOVE TIM GUNN'S REACTION!!!!! You don't fuck with Ms. Gunn.


Anonymous said...

This whole thing was just fuckin' stupid.

There is a little more to Tim's little rant than what they're showing. Johnny S obviously must have pissed him off in some way beyond this.


I agree. Tim would not react like that unless Johnny had said something or something else happened in the workroom.


So much for "Tim is a God", huh??


As soon as you wrote, "A fabrication, even!" I suddenly pictured the entire monologue being said by Tim Gunn with the voice of Snagglepuss. Thanks for the laugh dolls.


Donna lynn said...
Nicholas = Kenneth Mars as Hugh Simon from the movie "What's Up Doc?"

LOL perfect.


There seems to have been something missing from the storyline last night. Oh yeah, the story. Lifetime seems to have edited it out. I can't imagine Tim got that upset over what Johnny said on the runway.


I was actually super excited when I saw Johnny with the crossword puzzle. I was hoping he'd do a crossword dress.

Le sigh.

T.Lo, I'm concerned about T.Gunn. Anyone else notice the red blotchy lips last night? I thought it was just the lighting at the newspaper factory but I kept seeing it throughout the ep. Is he sick?


The photo made me die of laughter. Thank you for that.

I also loved Tim's response. Yes, it's true that it was not the biggest lie in the history of PR, but it was for this season, and that's the yardstick against which the contestants are going measure any indiscretions. Also, while Tim hasn't said anything similar in a while on the show -- last time would be about Keith in S3 -- he often did point out lies/misrepresentations of the truth in "Tim's Take" (and it breaks my heart that Tim isn't blogging). I have always appreciated the fact that Tim is very dedicated to honesty. I also, of course, have always appreciated his rather impressive lexicon.


Best episode this season. The sad thing is that even with the drama and the newspaper, I liked almost everything that came down the runway... As opposed to last week when I didn't like anything! I agree with TLo. Take away the fabric permanently.

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As for Gordana, I don't think anyone deserved the bottom third-place spot. Nicholas and Johnny were the worst. Every other design was either passable or better.

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You forgot to add "ShoeGate" to the list of PR lies. Didn't Kara try to pass off those to-die-for shoes as worth $5 each??


I don't know if this has already been said, but I think the big lie is that Johnny was never an addict/never in recovery at all, and that is why TG was really so angry.


Great post, MouseAnony -- you captured why Johnny's behavior was BS very well!


Sure, it was a whopper, and sure, he made himself look pretty foolish in the process, but we tend to think that signing a form declaring that you have taken no fashion-related reading materials with you and then stashing them under the bed counts as a somewhat bigger lie than this. Hell, "Kara jumped up and down backstage and that's why my jumpsuit is falling apart" was a bigger lie than this.

Thank you.


I agree that this was the best show to date, because the challenge was fun AND because we finally got some bitchiness. Sure, you don't need bitchiness for a good reality TV show, but there's no denying that it helps a lot.

Tim may be classy and composed when he's angry, but I wouldn't want him pissed at me.


"There is a strong temptation to link his little fib with his professed addiction issues, but frankly, we don't get paid enough to do that kind of psychoanalysis and besides it would be awfully presumptuous of us."

Point well taken, however manipulating a situation to see how far it will take them is typical with addicts. He needs a long session with his counselor and group. Sadly, my empathy for him and his situation ran out somewhere in the first episode. I sort of expected this to happen at some point given his poor showing the past couple weeks. Johnny needs work - lots of it.

Tim Gunn is a class act. It was a relief that he didn't put on a show of mock disappointment with Johnny's departure.


¡Escandalo!

I would suggest a new drinking game wherein everyone takes a drink whenever Johnny says he feels "empty", but that seems slightly inappropriate for someone in recovery (but only slightly).

Although, having been 9 years sober after a disabling coke addiction, I can say that "empty" sounds typical of many addicts, especially the less-introspective ones. Perhaps Johnny could benefit from observing his emotions occasionally.

Still, Liar Liar Tattoo Sleeve on Fire!

I have little doubt that Bunim/Murray saw a recovering meth addict and thought they had an automatic Compelling Storyline, just like with every season of "The Real World" (and the even worse dreck they've produced for various networks since). Instead, Johnny is an example of the important differences between casting for an Exhibitionist Reality Series and casting for a Competition Reality Series.

When Jeffrey appeared on PR3, he had been sober for quite some time. He had a compelling story, presented, as it should have been, in the past tense, as biographical-monologue-over-montage-of-old-photos. The prestige of this show comes in part from the fact that most of the drama arises from the competition itself, and how each castmember handles each challenge.


Brian
9/18/09 9:49 AM said:

I think Tim might be the greatest person ever.



X
EVER. In the history of Ever.
He really needs to always be on my TV.


Maybe what Johnny meant was, the spitting iron ruined his dress before Tim Gunn saw it, that's why Tim didn't like it, and that's why he gave up and threw it away? That would be fooling himself -- presumably Tim disliked it for other reasons -- but not an actual LIE.

Which would explain why he would be stupid enough to tell a flat lie in front of cameras, because it was only self-deception.


Anonymous
9/18/09 12:44 PM

Maybe what Johnny meant was, the spitting iron ruined his dress before Tim Gunn saw it, that's why Tim didn't like it, and that's why he gave up and threw it away? That would be fooling himself -- presumably Tim disliked it for other reasons -- but not an actual LIE.

Which would explain why he would be stupid enough to tell a flat lie in front of cameras, because it was only self-deception.

Irons have two settings, steam and dry. If Anon's theory was true, Johnny may have had it set on steam thinking it was dry. Even the cheapest irons set on dry will not put out steam, so even still it would have been Johnny's big stupid mistake if this iron steam thing happened, and of course in his opinion it would be the iron's fault.

AH blah blah blah Johnny is gone...


Isabella
9/18/09 12:04 PM
I agree. Tim would not react like that unless Johnny had said something or something else happened in the workroom.


Yup. Kenley was very disrespectful towards Tim, and he wasn't as heated about it. They never really showed Johnny S as being nothing but cordial to him.

The lady doth protest too much...


See, I was a little disappointed that T.Gunn didn't call out Nicholas for being a douche on the runway. Johnny's lie wasn't that big of a deal, and I think Gunn should have been far more offended by Nicholas' behavior. Especially since from his middle-to-bottom placing so far, he's not all that as a designer either. But whatevs.

Thought Gordana's was great. If they loved loved loved Jeffrey's wearable dress from S3 and gave it the win, why not Gordana's? Hers reminded me of Jeffrey's anyway to be honest.

But I agree that although Irina's a little bratty, that coat was wonderful. Can't wait to hear T & Lo's take on it!

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Please tell me this was not the "big thing" that Tim implied would have the blogs buzzing. If so....yawn. I want to see some real drama!


Madeleine
9/18/09 12:59 PM
Thought Gordana's was great. If they loved loved loved Jeffrey's wearable dress from S3 and gave it the win, why not Gordana's? Hers reminded me of Jeffrey's anyway to be honest.


Jeffrey didn't win that challenge. Mychael Knight did.

But don't worry, the ALP bitched and moaned about Mychael until...The All-Star Show.


honesty.not.pc

Tim IS a fricking Thesaurus! I loved his speach and I adore the fact that he is single handedly preserving the English language.

That was no Dior Johnny my boy, that was the book of 1,000 cranes meets friday the 13th.

That second dress is a shit pile that I could have made my self. Even the pattern is stupid. It is like he glued together a bunch of tacky cocktail napkins left over from an art show.

Since you didn't want to touch it...I will. I spend a lot of time with addicts recovering or otherwise and his behavior is CLASSIC addict covering of shortcommimgs. This will be a big blow to him, I hope that it strengthens his sobriety instead of the other way around.


Fabric, thread, and closures - but no dress forms! Sewing machines without needles! Needles without sewing machines!

I died. Truly a "LOL" moment. Loves it!
-LizzieBee


Ugh sycophantish
"I think Tim might be the greatest person ever."


I've had several incidents with irons spitting out HOT water. In fact I was burned once. The Anon posting a little above is what I thought was possible that it may have been a combination of factors.


"Jeffrey didn't win that challenge. Mychael Knight did.

But don't worry, the ALP bitched and moaned about Mychael until...The All-Star Show."

Oh right, forgot about that. But I do remember them freaking out about Jeffrey's rather basic design that just happened to have been... dyed. Big deal.


Donna lynn @ 12:01

Enjoyed the "What's Up, Doc?" reference. An under-rated movie, in my opinion.


I really want our judges back. I also wish they would find someone else to narrate these episodes. I cannot STAND Nicolas' voice and his constant complaining/whining.

Loved seeing Tim so offended. He is the best.

Much better episode but what the heck does Eva Longoria have to do with this challenge? Is there a reason she was there?


Bravo is running "shoe gate" right now. Tim looks great in a black turtleneck and leather blazer!

(another suz)


I think all of you are forgetting the show was filmed a year ago.

I doubt he's going to see himself on tv a year after being evicted from the show; and say 'hey; I think I want meth'. Fail.


Maybe what Johnny meant was, the spitting iron ruined his dress before Tim Gunn saw it, that's why Tim didn't like it, and that's why he gave up and threw it away?

I think he was still painting when Tim came in -- I know we can't know what wasn't included in the editing, but I don't know how and when he would have been ironing.


This may well have been the worst episode of Project Runway ever. So contrived, so desperate, so obnoxious....ugh. I don't know if it's Lifetime's handling of it, or if I'm just over the show at this point, but everybody throughout the show was just being so stupid. Except the judges-- they had good points, although I still miss Kors and Garcia. But the whole rest of it just reeked of fabricated controversy. Bo-ring.


"It was pure fiction! A fabrication, even!"

I totally had the voice of Snagglepuss in my head when I read this.


If Nicholas wasn't so busy bitchin' about Johnny and what he had going on in his work space maybe he wouldn't have turned in such an ass POS, getting the delicious ironic critique that he so richly deserved. We'd be only too lucky as viewers to get rid of him next. Nicholas is neither entertaining or particularly talented, just annoyingly superior in his self assessment and ready to tell anyone within earshot about it. Anyone can pick on the weak links as he does.

Ciao to Johnny. It seemed that he was in over his head and out of his element from day one. I don't like being witness to a slow drowning even if the victim isn't particularly likable.

Agreed that this is one of the better episodes from a creative standpoint and the paraphrasing of Tim's indignation in this blog? Solid gold.


What happened to Alex? I missed his cartoon this week.

Hope he isnt gone for good =(


Tim Gunn definitely deserves an award for classiest Hissy Fit ever.
I just wish he had finished it off by reaching over and smacking Nicholas.
Nicholas needs a good smack from somebody. He is such an annoying little twit.


I do a lot of weird recycled-material crafty projects so I've ironed a LOT of different kinds of paper in my time. I'm also a bit of an iron connoisseur (never thought I'd say such a thing!)

In other words, I know from ironing paper.

There was nothing weird about the fact that a designer might iron the paper. You can achieve cool effects that way and it's a great way to dry out wet treatments like paper maiche and dye. Plus, as others have said, ironing flattens the paper. I'm sure a lot of designers took an iron to their creations. Which is probably why they were so annoyed with the lie. And as MouseAnony said, they already most likely should have known how to iron paper!

You have to iron paper with a dry iron. Using the "dry" setting doesn't cut it. You have to take the water out if you want to make sure it's dry. If you need to add moisture, you do it with a light mist from a spray bottle, let it soak in, and then use a dry iron on it.

And as MouseAnony also said, the spitting shouldn't have ruined the whole garment. If you do get water on your paper, you can just...wait for it...iron it some more so that it gets dry and flat again! It won't come out perfect, but it should be good enough, or at least just give you a small bad spot to work around.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was indeed more to the story, but it's plausible that they were annoyed with only what we saw because it was so ridiculous.


The way PR treats Gordana is exactly what I dislike in my own life. I see my own work get ignored while a younger and prettier coworker gets all of the praise and rewards, even though her product is not the best. If only people just looked at the final product instead of the person presenting it, things would be a lot better.


Sad, but I think Johnny wanted to be sent home...his behavior was more than a little delusional in thinking that nobody else had witnessed Tim's trashing of the first dress.

Doin' the crossword, tellin' the big lie, making such a half-assed second dress, was all self-sabotage.

He wanted out and didn't care any more to be there.


"we don't get paid enough to do that kind of psychoanalysis and besides it would be awfully presumptuous of us."

"Alright, enough of this Lifetime Movie of the Week drama."

WHAT??!! NO!!! Why do you think we are so addicted to this website??!!

I don't come here to think about bad stitching or uneven hemlines. Hell, if I want that, I'll go to the Gap. I come here to commisserate about all the drama queens, drug addicts, backstabbing bitches, "leathuh" addicts, cat fights, gay rumors, over-the-top celebrities, and train wrecks that PR so generously offers. (Oh, and to see shirtless pics of Logan and Christopher.)

Guys, Project Runway = our Dynasty. TAKE THE GLOVES OFF!!!!


Such silly drama. Anywhoodle, this boy got on my every nerve since day one and I am so relieved to see the end of him.

Tim having a genuine huffy fit--priceless! I hope someone gets him mad again.


Funniest recap ever, Guys!

Tim. Gunn. Livid.

I bet his pulse never got above 85, either.

I hope he went home, kicked off his shoes, and danced to Burt Bacharach songs.


I just spent some time on Google looking at S3's recycling challenge. Say what you will about Johnny and his attitude. His dress doesn't even come close to matching the serious ugly that Vincent and Angela managed to send out on the runway.

No "Fat Minnie Mouses" or "Paper Brioches" on this runway. Even the worst dress on this runway was better than the worst dresses in that S3 challenge.

So, Johnny, keep on keepin' on, dude. But if you hadn't pissed Tim off so much, he could have found a nice job for you at Liz Claiborne. Now, you're on your own.


Major lie with a win or two under your bely (Keith, Santino) not as bad as a dumb-ass lie with a history of bottomw two's (Johnny). th


I am usually with you TLo, but I don't share your love of the petty drama. The kindergarten cattiness is just boring, in my book. The work these designers have been turning out --fabulous and wretched--is the real excitement for me, but to each his own.


I think that is by far one of my favorite posts you guys have ever done. I went and read the other posts from today and I was still laughing about this after all that. Well done!


"It wasn't horrible. Bad, yes. And a decision by the judges with which we agreed, but all things considered, it wasn't an eyesore."

Punny! :P


TNisheaven said "Nicholas needs a good smack from somebody. He is such an annoying little twit."

LOL!

Nicholas' time is nearly up.


The point is not that it was a lame lie compared to others in the past, the point is that the lie involved The Gunn.

That is what makes it the biggest, worst lie of all times.

Do not mess with The Gunn, kittens, no good will ever come of it.


Was this filmed during the time Tim was rushing between PR6 & PR-AllStars productions? The time he said later almost gave him a nervous breakdown?


At least, was the best cap of the season ... maybe for the newspaper as material. Anyway, Michael and Nina could create a classic with the Jhonny lie.

Maybe the next episode ...


Re-watching this I picked up on something I didn't remember. Not only did Johnny lie about how his dress was destroyed, but HE LIED ABOUT TIM GUNN'S CRITIQUE OF HIS DRESS. That's what explains Tim's ire--Johnny said Tim questioned the quality of the die job. NO! Tim hated the birds. TG was horrified that anyone would think that was the only problem he saw with the bird dress.

(p.s. Has anyone noticed that dresses with a bird theme are a common mistake this year?)


Ugh! Good riddance - I'm glad he's gone. He was waaay too needy to be good TV.


I sure hope Johnny's exaggeration wasn't the earth-shaking, game-changing, mind-blowing event that Tim kept teasing during the lead-up to this season.

Also, I'd love to see a challenge where they're not allowed to use scissors or fabric cutting tools.


"...a drink and a thesaurus" made me laugh out loud. Thanks!

By the way, shouldn't "Entended" be "Extended"?


This couldn't have been filmed at the same time as the PR All-stars. Heidi was preggers during that filming.


Tim is a God.

Johnny is a liar.

And now we move on.


Eva called it. Who in their right mind would use steam to iron paper? She knew it was a lie from the get go.


I so wish I was a gay man. I love me some Gunn!!!

Johnny was a lazy fool who gave up an incredible chance for exposure. All I have to say is DUH. Cameras....video....replay....get it yet, doofus?

I think there's plenty more in the Johnny-Tim arena - remember Tim comforting Johnny Ep. 1? Maybe he invested a lot of time with Johnny. Johnny crumpled up his garment and tossed it in front of Tim. It wasn't wet then. It didn't look destroyed in any way by water. He's a punk who couldn't take responsibility for his own fuck up. I'm glad he's gone.

To join the Gordana supporters - WTF was going on putting her in the bottom 3 again? Her dress was hot and certainly on par with Althea's, who I thought looked like a newspaper version of a mall dress.

And I can't wait for the post on Shirin....


Wow. I don't want to cross Tim.

Love the post boys, thank you!


Gordana's work was FABULOUS!!!!!!

Peppermint Patty needs to go!!! Week after week blah, blah, blah!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!


http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/09/18/project-runways-johnny-i-had-no-reason-to-lie/

Read this interview, he seems to be unable to tell the truth about the situation.


OK, Johnny's a fibber and a fool and a bad designer. Fair enough. But Peppermint Patty is just as bad a designer, and a trash-talking dickhead to boot. I've said this before, and I'll say it again: laughing at another designer on the runway should get you the automatic boot. Because it's rude, and honey, you DESERVE IT. If Nicolas is around after next week, I'm stopping watching.


Oh, thank you. I thought the whole :::gasp!! A LIE!!!::: bit was just slightly overdone. But there really had to have been more because if Tim Gunn gets that mad, there has to be a reason, right?


obviously, this wasn't a huge gigantic horrible lie...

but that is kinda besides the point...
its a lie that is so easily disputed by the fact that its a television show and there are cameras everywhere...

it was a big lie because oh how easily it could have been refuted and because everyone was around to see it and everything seemed to have happened on camera but it was a lie that was told to his model who wasn't around when it (didn't happen) and the judges (who weren't in the workroom) who wouldn't have known what really happened...

anyways, he should have been kicked off the second he made more than one paper crane and thought it was clever idea...

Nicholas, had every right to call him out on it, but you would have thought that he would have been smart enough to hold his tongue until after the judges got to his dress, which they equally trashed...
kinda funny in its own right...


My vote for "Biggest Lie Of All Time Told on Project Runway" is Jeffrey saying, "I sewed this all myself. No, I didn't have help." Lies make Baby Jesus cry, Jeffrey!


Incidentally those of you who have managed to see the amazing "Project Runway Canada" season 2 may remember an amazing moment of drama there, when a sociopathic designer told a whopper of a lie to the judges, and then during the judges' deliberation, the other designers all went off on that designer for his unbelievable, boldfaced lie, and when they went back out for the judges' decision, the sociopathic designer had to admit his lie. Good times, people, good times!

T Lo, do you need me to burn you a DVD of "Project Runway Canada"? You've ranted before about how you haven't seen it. The two of you are madcap geniuses, but yet you don't seem able to grasp how to bittorrent. That makes me want to pat you like kittens, somehow.


You know what I think is weird? That out of all the origami things you can make, he would choose birds to put on a dress he was painting red. Why not flowers or some kind of geometric? That crane isn't the first origami design you learn - it's fairly complicated, so if he can do that he must also be able to do something more appropriate that wouldn't have been quite so Hitchcockian.


I have to say, I really don't get what Tim was so mad about.


To me, there were 4 great outfits this week: Carol Hannah's, Irina's, Althea's, and Christopher's. And Logan's was very nice, too.

I think they had to evict Johnny, but I love little Johnny and wish him well. I'm so sorry it had to end this way.

Nicholas' behavior was the worst, though. I can forgive Johnny. But Nicholas I can not forgive for his hatefulness this week.


I for one think that Tim Gunn over-reacted to Johnny's fib. And I think he did this because he knew he was overly cruel in his comments to Johnny about his first dress. He should have focussed more on constructive criticism. And he should have known that Johnny, who is now in a very fragile state of recovery, could have over-reacted to brutal insults regarding his work. Johnny was completely demoralized by Tim's criticism. Yes, that's life. But don't make Tim out to be a saint for refusing to give Johnny a warm goodbye at the end. He should have risen to the ocassion.

I still love both Tim and Johnny, though.


I know that I'm in the minority on this, but I didn't think that Johnny was such a bad guy.

Insecure? yes. Emotionally raw from overcoming his own personal struggles? yes.

How many other designers are in that same state of mind? Quite a few.

But I'll take him over an obnoxious angry little peanut anyday.

He didn't seem to be unpleasant to the other designers. Maybe they thought he was a wet blanket, but at least he take half of his time badmouthing the other designers. He didn't seem that disrespectful to Tim, and the one client that he had (Emarie) had a good relationship despite exchanging words.

I just find this whole lie controversy just made up and blown out of proportion.

Next week, Kanye West is going to jump onstage and tell all of you that Johnny's auf was a load of shit!


There HAS to be more to Tim's anger than the "lie" on the runway. Perhaps he didn't like the idea that Johnny pitched a "Dior" at his encouragement or used a lie to cover his ass after following Tim's advice. I know Nicholas is catching some flack for outing Johnny but I am actually glad someone did....he was lying to stay on and who knew if the judges would catch it or not. I agree with EVERYONE that Gordana deserved to be in the bottom three. I don't see her taking an unwearable material and turning it into something wearable as being a cardinal sin. I thought Louis and Rodney were MUCH stronger contenders for that bottom three spot than Gordana. She is putting out real quality week after week.


*Gordana did NOT deserve to be in the bottom three. Sorry


Do you really trust PR's producers to tell us the whole story about Johnny, the dress and Tim Gunn (be still my heart)? I don't. Mitchell lied bout who did the work in his partnership with Ra'mon., etc. Runway lying is hardly unusual. They would sell their souls for a bit of drama.

All in all, Johnny should go because the dress on the runway was not good. The rest is backstage drama.

BTW most of the liars I have met are not addicts, just jerks.


I think Tim was so offended because he was there. He knew exactly why the first dress was scrapped, it was a result of his criticism (and apt). And for him to listen to Johnny say something that he knew was completely 100% not true, must have just irked him.

It was probably one of those things that in the moment really piss you off, but in retrospect is just like 'whatever, the guy is just insecure and delusional'.

It's easy to look back and say Tim overreacted, but cmon, how many of you would be cool after someone just told a big lie that you yourself knew wasn't 100% true. Most people would not be nice or feel warm to that person.


I don't think anyone's going to read this three days later at the bottom of this heap but the BIG LIE confused me. I thought I missed something -- does anyone think Johnny meant he steamed the newspaper BEFORE Tim's critique and that's why it looked like crap, and then after the critique he knew he had to ditch it?
~Gary


Brenna said: There HAS to be more to Tim's anger than the "lie" on the runway. Perhaps he didn't like the idea that Johnny pitched a "Dior" at his encouragement or used a lie to cover his ass after following Tim's advice. I know Nicholas is catching some flack for outing Johnny but I am actually glad someone did....he was lying to stay on and who knew if the judges would catch it or not.

It hadn't occurred to me, until I read it here, that there has to be more going on between Johnny and Tim, and we're just not privy to it. I believe that's a good possibility. And because I can be very nosy, I hope we find out eventually.

Johnny was lying to stay on the show, but I think Nicholas sold him out to deflect attention from his own design. I think he was out of line for calling Johnny out, but if he was so righteously indignant that he felt compelled to do it, he should have told the whole story. Instead all he said (that we heard anyway, and I'm not going to fanwank what else he might have said) was that the dress was a red mess. Even though *we* know the dress was a red mess, the judges didn't, and it came out sounding like it was just Nicholas' own opinion. He just made himself sound petty.

I might sound more indignant that I am. I'm just pointing out where I think Nicholas went wrong.

Anyway, it's probably better for Johnny that he went home. I think the competition was getting the better of him, and he wasn't tough enough to handle it. I hope he's doing well and that he's stayed strong.


To Anonymous 9/18/09 10:46:

That's in really poor taste. Not funny in the least.


Anonymous
9/19/09 6:20 PM To Anonymous 9/18/09 10:46:

That's in really poor taste. Not funny in the least.



Heh, heh! Speak for yourself!


I don't understand. Why is the model's hair prostitute like?
Other than that, I agree


Tim Gunn's the only person who can say "awry" in their everyday vocabulary and not sound like a British detective. Well, maybe a little.


So how many dresses did he make?


Where have the TLo awards gone the last few episodes?

He could have made the sputtering work if he tried - probably would have made a cool patterned "fabric" done in the write way. But he bailed.

but lying to Headmaster Gunn? Big no no!!


The look on designers faces when Tim gave his pissed off speech is priceless. I don't think anyone expected Tim Gunn to tell it like it is in such a frank and direct manner. It was sexy. Love Tim.

We'll see next episode if Peppermint Patty can pull one out of her hat.


His name was "Sackless" wasn't that the first clue?


This was the best episode ever in Project Runway history. On Lifetime.


Hee hee. I love Tim Gunn. So glad he's gone.





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