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Aw, we feel bad.


If we can get into a little armchair psychoanalysis, it seems to us that Miss Qristyl was really thrown off her game by last week's disastrous challenge. Between having Epperson constantly question her skill level and that embarrassing throw-down in front of the judges, she seems to have lost the brash, confident, "plus sexy" promise of her earlier self. "I'm the B-I-T-C-H," she said, forlornly to her room mates, and we sensed right from that moment that she was going to be on the chopping block yet again. Confidence always wins in reality television and self-doubt is a quick ticket home (or back to PR jail, where they're sequestered until the shooting is over).

Because of her lack of confidence she was a little too receptive to Tim's criticism. And we have to say...

We think he was off the mark on this one. No, her original design wouldn't have gotten her the win, but if she'd stuck with it, she could have avoided an auf. Tim said it looked sloppy, but we didn't think so. Unfortunately, she was raw from last week and the slightest criticism from Tim had her scrambling to pull something else together.

Model: Valerie Roy

Unfortunately, this is what she wound up sending down the runway.

It's really not a bad little dress. The problem is, it's boring. Heidi nailed it when she said Valerie looked like the girl who'd be serving the champagne instead of the girl attending the party.

We like the ripple effect on the fabric, though.

And the back is sexy.

But the absolute worst thing you can do on Project Runway is offer something safe and boring. Even shitty guest judges get bent out of shape over it.

"Valerie, do you like your dress?"

"Yeah, I do."

"But that's why Valerie is not a designer, right?"

"Yeah..."

"Thank God."

"You gonna let that skinny white bitch talk to me like that?"


Extended Judging:


Exit Interview:



[Photos: Mike Yarish/myLifetime.com - Video: myLifetime.com - Screencaps: Projectrungay.blogspot.com]


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156 comments:

Skinny bitch indeed.

I feel for Qristyl, they just wanted to let her go. Johnny's dress was so much worse.


"You gonna let that skinny white bitch talk to me like that?" Ha! Funnier than anything else that was on my TV screen last night. Yeah, her dress was wearable, but safe and boring.


That snotty judge has a very bad nose job.
Qristyl got the shaft. Her dress would stand out at a regular party, but not at a party full of models that are all trying to get noticed.
I like it better than the winning garment to be honest. And workmanship wise it's on the same level, if not higher. The said it was cheap looking and gave the one with two puppies fighting under a spandex blanket the win. A real head scratcher.
Anyhoo, of the bottom three they picked Johnny's was much worse. Unwearable. Cheap . Poor workmanship. He should have gone home.


Yes sadly boring is the worst thing you can do on this show. Juts ask Robert Best. She should have at least kept the brown fabric in somehow

I feel even sadder for Valerie. So far she has come across as the most likeable model to me and sane.

I agree with what someone posted last night it would be wonderful if you guys got an interview with Valerie to see how's she's doing

And frankly I don want that stylist back as a judge. She made valid points but there was no need to be some a bitch to Valerie for supporting her designer

Frank


Sorry to see Q go. I have been rooting for her, but she has been on the chopping block and I'm not too surprised. It was justified, unfortunately.

I believe that Valerie said she wanted a *dark* color, not specifically brown or black, so why didn't Q choose a deep plum or a dark copper/bronze or something? This is a designer who obviously loves color! Might have saved her for at least another week.

Also sorry to see Valerie go. I don't watch MOTR so I don't know much about her, but she's gorgeous and was loyal to Q and incredibly gracious during the critiques last night. And she had good cause not to be.


I thought they said last night that this isn't The Fashion Show and we're not here to make stuff people would want to wear or buy, because that would be boring and uncool. But we still want to make money. Maybe we should go into poetry.


I liked the dress -- I think she just had a time crunch or she could have made it more interesting. Qristyl's poor showing the in the previous weeks probably had more to do with her auf'ing. I would have sent home Christopher's green Chinese fingercuff dress or Johnny's bridesmade gown first.


This episode reminded me that I'm sick of all kinds of purple.


"or back to PR jail, where they're sequestered until the shooting is over"

TLo, you mean they don't get to go home right after? They have to sit around and feel like a loser and still be away from friends and family???


Jennifer Rude, is that her name?

I don't think Qristyl was doing such a great job throughout, though I feel bad for her. I kind of agreed with Tim, but now that I see it close up, I think TLo may be right. She shouldn't have gone so drastically in a different direction. And where was the green fabric she was talking about? And, of course, sorry again to see Valerie go, but I'm glad she (apparently) got a job out of it!


That stylist was horrible. I felt like she was trying to audition to get her own show. Painful.


Cielo said...

TLo, you mean they don't get to go home right after? They have to sit around and feel like a loser and still be away from friends and family???


Yep. They're usually put up in a hotel room until shooting is over.


I think the styling was the final nail in the coffin for Spellcheck. A plain black dress is when, IMO it is time to all out and have fun with accessories. Had Valerie been wearing killer shoes and some (lots) of jewelry maybe she wouldn't have looked like a waitress, and she would have been more on trend. That dress made a very pretty girl look plain.


bitchybitchybitchy

I agree that Qrystyl's confidence took too big a hit, and she wasn't able to regroup for this challenge.

I do wish that I could have slapped that snarky stylist through my TV last night. She was unnecessarily rude and unkind to Valerie. If the woman wants catfights, she should try out for the WWE's womens' division-but, remembering the wrestlers from season 4 of PR, they'd have made mince meat of this self-important stylista.


Qristyl just wasn't cut out for Project Runway. She didn't have the necessary confidence (or, in the alternative, wrecklessness coupled with denial), and I got the impression that while she had solid construction skills, she wasn't a fast sewer. Also, I don't really think she was all that interested in pushing the envelope. None of those things is so terrible in general, but they're big problems on the show.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

I agree with you guys on the armchair analysis. She took Tim's critique too much to heart, and could have at most ended up as 'safe'. The first dress is far more interesting to me than the last one.

As for the skinny trash-talker, I didn't hear Heidi describing HER as a current designer, did I? No. And I don't even think a designer, like Kors, would ever say what she did to a model. She forgot what show she was on, and decided to be one of those dreaded, shrill 'fashion experts' that are a dime a dozen on E!, Style, etc. Grade: F-

I'm sad to see Val go. I hope TLo can get an interview with her, because to me, she was the most interesting model of MOTR, now that Fatma is thinking more about her career than cutting someone to get her Logan back. Good luck Val, we'll miss you!


I agreed with Tim that Qristyl'sfirst effort looked a bit sloppy and would not have been acceptable. And I think her black dress would have been acceptable if somebody else had managed to screw up. It was ok. Not brilliantly unique, but very ok.

Here's my problem. What was that loudmouth judge wearing when she was snottily criticizing Qristyl's choice of black fabric as too dark and ordinary? A BLACK DRESS, that's what.

Qristyl, bless her, gets high points for the single most gracious PR exit ever.

And, again, a nod to the producers, who tried to sneak in a double head fake. First, in the commercial, Heidi's criticism of aging the model 10 years was followed by a shot of Qrystl's reaction. Since they always show a different designer's reaction than the actual person being spoken to in these promos, this was supposed to throw us off. Plus, after showing Qristyl dumping her first garment and resolutely starting over, they then showed Epperson being temporarily stuck and started giving him the loser edit. They actually had me going for a moment, but the jig was up when they showed the near-finished dress on the mannequin and Tim's very positive reaction to it.


The dress didn't age Valerie-- the extra five or ten years that Valerie's been on the planet aged Valerie.

Qrystil's auffing was coming soon anyway, though.


I would wear a plain slim black dress over a sloppy black diaper skirt any day.

the crack pipe was passed around more than a few times on this episode.

jamibythebay


Just like with the winning garment, I would have put this in the middle - boring, yes, but not the worst dress on the runway (I'm looking at you, Johnny).

Now that Valerie is gone, I'll be routing for Kojii and Celine.


I'm having a difficult time with this season. Is it the move to LA that makes the producers feel they have to ramp up the bullshit and thoroughly manage the outcomes? This season feels so clumsy and cynical.


While I don't think Qristyl would have lasted much longer, I agree that this week was Johnny's turn.

Qristyl's dress was gorgeous from the back and the gathers were intelligently placed so as to enhance curves and slim the model. Plus sexy!

Downside, however, was the first thing that drew your eye to the dress: the horrible bow at the top of the strap. It was clichéd.

The front strap seemed to collect at the neckline a bit too high, but that's about the only downside I saw. Yes, it was a boring, black, dress. And at a nighttime industry event, a pop of color would have been nice.

Why all this love for brown, by the way. Everyone is using it and UPS isn't even a show sponsor.


AmySez..

We need Nina and the Dutchess! That stylist was just mean. And the rest of the judging so arbitrary. Qristyls was boring, but at least flattering. Logans and Johnnys were BUTT UGLY and not figure flattering. I was watching with 3 other people, and when Altheas came up, we all said "bottom 3". The only thing missing from it being a strippers "naughty secretary outfit" was a pair of glasses.


Yes, it's a valid point that the model's opinion of the garment isn't the end-all and be-all. But that's clear enough, isn't it Miss Bitch? If it needs to be stated at all, then make a brief comment in the judging session and move on. No need to be a raging asshole about it. Qristyl's dress may have been boring, but it looks like it was made well and it fit Valerie well-- made her look sexy as all get out, in my opinion, unlike Johnny's heap o' trash. I'm annoyed that the designers got the chance to use Valerie yet again and still chose to send her home-- again. If Fatma is right and it's about "loyalty" then they are dumb; if they feel like they have to stick with the form they know then they're still dumb.


I think Qristyl was doomed from the beginning, since she usually works with real (or plus sexy) sized women. That's a great thing for most women in this country, but not for being on a reality competition where the only non size 0 challenge is because someone is pregnant with twins. I can see her moving on to being commercially successful (another PR QVC line, perhaps?) and I hope she does, if for no other reason than that she seems like a good person.


I think it was high time for Crystal with a Q to go. Her taste level was questionable from the beginning and her choice in fabrics was awful.


The snotty stylist judge was so affected. Like a spoof of a fashionista that old Not Ready for Primetime Player, Lorraine Newman might play in a Saturday Night Live sketch.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

PS, just saw the extended judging vid, and even though he's no Michael Kors, Marc Bouwer (aka 'blond Nureyev' to one of the other commentators), was at least giving constructive criticism of where Qristyl's creation missed the mark.

It's just too bad 'plus sexy' couldn't have realized that on her own and conjured up some alternatives to her design.

And the cull continues....


i agree that these challenges are tame and not very challenging. that said, there being no real detail in the direction, the designers qould be turning out some qind of creative genius. It does not seem like anyone that ends up being qritiqued has a strong point of view.


Miss Mouth is Jolie's stylist, yes? Haven't we seen a parade of black, unbecoming frocks over the past year on her star client? Hmmhphh.


Madame Suggia

Qristl was going home sooner or later, that's for sure. Her aesthetic is a little...shall we say..questionable, very shiny and brash colors, and not particularly flattering shapes. As a plus-sized woman I had a look at her website and I have to say her work looks chip in a chip way. But y'know, if we all liked the same things the world would be pretty boring and all that. Having said that, I don't think her work was the worst thing on the runway last night-her's was certainly more wearable than the mess that won, and streets ahead of that emerald green monstrosity. Also, she was a gracious and charming loser, which may not make for great TV but it sure as hell makes for a better reputation in the fashion industry.


I would like to appeal to all designers out there that we PLEASE retire the one-shouldered Wilma Flintstone dress. Thank you.


Bah, bring back Nina and The Duchess. At least they seem to know what they're talking about, even when they make cracked-out decisions.

I'm with Sewing Siren...I liked this much better than Althea's short-waisted, boob-tastic mess of an outfit. It's a perfectly cute, flattering little black dress, even though it doesn't quite qualify as "eye catching".
Even so, I think plain is always better than unflattering.

Other worse dresses than this one:
Johnny's crumpled mess
Logan's 1980s prom dress


That stylist needs to never come back to PR; asking a model a question (only to insult her afterwards) is a cheap shot and totally uncalled for. What was Valerie supposed to say? "I hate this dress; it's ugly as HALE?" No, she was trying to stick up for her designer.


Sewing Siren said...
"The snotty stylist judge was so affected. Like a spoof of a fashionista that old Not Ready for Primetime Player, Lorraine Newman might play in a Saturday Night Live sketch.

9/11/09 12:55 PM

Oh, yes! But Laraine Newman clearly would been joking. This woman was relishing being bitchy.


i thought she needed to go home. they sent mitchell home for being in the bottom three times, so why qould qrystal get that exemption? i understand it's not exactly the same, but still...

are you guys going to do interviews of the auf'ed? i enjoyed reading them for TFS, and since this show is so much better, i'd bet they'd be really entertaining!


And I can't help but notice that Valerie was one of the girls who didn't wear her outfit to the party...


I think Qristyl would have gone home no matter what. You know how it is when the judges (producers) decide they are through with someone, and when they are NOT QUITE through with someone (Logan in this case).


Well Valerie at least based her decision on not wearing the dress as a business one. She said the judge's comments made her think it might be safer not to wear it if she wanted to get attention from the industry people. Ironically I don't think it would have made a difference since I think valerie was eye-catching enough on her own at the party. Certainly that 1 rep thought so

FRank


I feel really, really bad about this auf.

I kind of expected that she was going to go pretty soon, but that's the way it goes in the fashion world.

Besides, there's only so much tolerance that the judges are going to have for designers who can create something over a size two, so she was pretty much doomed from the start.

Anyhow, I wish her the best.

and if you're reading this MissQ:

BITCH, GET THAT WEBSITE UP! Some of us want to see what else you got to offer!


And as for Miss Valerie, she should've spit in that helmet-headed bitch's face.


If Qristyl was a hunky black man instead of a plus-sexy black woman, I think Johnny would be gone. And I'm not so sure that "taste" isn't just a politically correct way to call someone too ethnic or too black. Poor girl -- just like Uli, they tell her to tone down the prints and the color just to kick her off for being "too safe".


Yeah, Qristyl was doomed with her "safe mode" black dress. Although I didn't see much different between it and Carol's "top 3" entry. One was "youthful" and one "aged."

Hated that guest judge. I don't recall The Dutchess berating a model for liking their dream wedding dress or Heidi insulting Uli's mom for not throwing Vincent under the bus with his Jonathan Lvingston Seagull tit-flap collared dress.


Yeah, I felt bad for Qristyl but this is a very basic black dress. Maybe if she had emphasized the bow a little more.


Hey TLo, remember this?

"Oh Not-Nina. How we hate you. Bitch needs to get the hell over her sour self and at least attempt to be consistent when she's being a bitch...

Sour, nasty, no-sense-making ...ugh. Worst judge ever. The girl from the post office did a better job."


Yeah, that's how I felt about that so-called "stylist".


Johnny's dress was WAY worse than the bottom two.

I did like Qristyl's original dress etter.


I'm going to miss both : (


I too felt bad for both Miss Qristyl and the lovely Valerie. Both being slammed by a guest judge with Mall Hair and a Mrs. Roper caftan! How's that for Disrespect-with-a-capital-D?

I don't think this dress deserved to lose. Yes, it was a Little Black Dress and so not terribly interesting, but it fit well and the draping was lovely. It deserved to be in the middle of the pack.

But this is what happens when Heidi's up-to-your-pudendum, Saran Wrap-tight aesthetic goes unchecked by the good sense of MK and NG.

Skank Judge needs to go wait in the food court and not be asked back.


I don't think Jennifer was a bad judge, she was just rude most of the time and then with her comments; too bad Qristyl didn't pack her silver pants with her.


She should have used color and print, screw the client, in the end they send you home anyway.


Qrystal's taste has never been terribly high end, or even middle end, and that's what they are looking for. Her aesthetic is kinda Dress Barn. She is sensitive enough to have picked up on that after the first challenge, and went about trying for higher end shapes by watching Epperson and others, and I think he picked up on that, and that's why he was cranky with her last week. However, she never went for higher end fabrics. She simply doesn't have, as M Kors, said, 'an eye', or artistic talent, and that's also why Epperson was so peeved. It was her time to go after the heinous cheapo purple dress from week one, so she's lucky she got to stay as lon as she did.


I'm on the Johnny-should-have-gone bandwagon. Qristyl made a dress as good as several that stayed - boring in context of a party to show off models, maybe. OTOH, I thought it showed off her body well, and all it needed was one attention-grabbing accessory (hair piece? Anyway, not the lame shoulder bow) to draw the eye. I kept trying to think of something witty in faux-pearls to play on the restrained "I am a lady, albeit a sexy one" vibe, but clearly I'm not a designer 'cause I can't come up with anything.

Really, I suspect if it'd been cut up to the ob/gyn exam level she might have gotten a pass. Because hootchie is apparently the style in Heidi/model world.

I did wonder if her original dress, at least what we saw of it, might have done better - the two-color drape might have really made the model's figure shine.

Qristyl & Valerie each got shafted, but they also each came off well. And I suspect if I wanted a designer who could both listen to my needs AND design a sexy look to show off my assets, Qristyl could do it better than many more successful contestants. (Including one or two past PR winners, to be honest.)


I knew as soon as Q picked Valerie last week that they'd both be going home this week. I don't know why no one seems to want that gorgeous creature strutting their wares down the runway. Seiously, she's beautiful and a great walker. I'm more sad for her departure than Q's.


Big thumbs down on last night's crack-headed judging.
Q's black dress, while nothing that really wowed, was by far her most sophisticated and elegant dress. It was very middle of the road and that is where she should have been to support and encourage "growth" as a designer.
There were problems with the losing look, but there were problems with the winning look, too. And, there was more than one other that was worse than hers.
PLUS SEXY WAS ROBBED!


PS: Valerie was ROBBED, too.


I'm surprised no one (including TLo) has mentioned the little flirt going on by one of the guest judges toward Logan (the cute pants and cute shoes remark). As soon as I saw it was down to Q and Logan, I knew who was going home and it was not cute shoes.

Pattie in San Francisco


If Qristyl was a hunky black man instead of a plus-sexy black woman, I think Johnny would be gone. And I'm not so sure that "taste" isn't just a politically correct way to call someone too ethnic or too black. Poor girl -- just like Uli, they tell her to tone down the prints and the color just to kick her off for being "too safe".

WORD!
But I think if Qristyl hadn't had so many excursions to the bottom, this dress (& she) would've been OK.
But JUST OK.
As for horsehead & her nasty cracks, you could see Qristyl's eyes say, "I'm about to pop a cap!"
on more than 1 occasion.
Pls, no more guest skanks on PR.
Between this piece of butt cheese & Lindsey Lohan, I've had more than my quota.


ShamelessAddict

Unfortunately, I do not think this was the right competition for Qristyl. I think she has a real talent for plus sized shapes, but she needs a bit of help with construction and fabric choices. The clothing that she has worn herself has always piqued my interest, and I think she could have a successful career sticking to that genre. Her clothes are not too tent-y or too fitted, and they seem to work on her. Go with the "Plus Sexy" (I still don't quite get that name for her work, but whatever).


I could make that dress in an hour. There was nothing intricate or special about the shape, the fabric or the execution. It reminded me of a toned down version of Andre's S2 Sacha Cohen outfit. You could find that at Dot's, TJ Maxx, Target, etc. ad infinitum. Johnny and Logan won out because their dresses showed more promise than Qristyl's. Johnny's had an interesting ballerina thing going for it, with the assymetrical bow and the pleats and Logan's was going in a direction that could have worked. The black, one shoulder dress is a look that's been done, done and done again. Plus she was in the bottom 3 3 times. In all; I'd have to say I think we'll see more interesting things from the other two than we would have seen from her. But yes, Valerie is an amazingly stunning and beautiful creature. And it seems she's down to earth, kind and nurturing. I wish her all the best.


Minou Mechant

Rarely have I longed to cut a bitch* as much as I did when that egregious cow of a guest judge sneered at Valerie last night.

*In a totally rhetorical, no-actual-violence-involved way, of course!


TLo on 9/11/09 at 12:24 PM said... Yep. They're usually put up in a hotel room until shooting is over.

Jaysus Chrysler!!!1 I have found the scam I have been waiting for all my life! I am going to get my non-sewing butt on PR knowing full well I will get the ax in the first challenge. I am then going to proceed to have a great time in NYC compliments of the great folks at Lifetime!!! Room Service menu please! LOL! LOL!

TampaBay


Aw, I'll miss Q as a person, but I'm not surprised to see her go as a designer.

I love me some good jersey, but hers looked really cheap -- like the poly-spandex stuff. I'd love to know the content on that.

And I hope we never see Flicka again. I suppose we should be glad she didn't bring her rimshot with her.


Valerie definetely got the shaft. Skinny white bitch! LOL


It was the choice to go black that did her in. A deep plum or midnight blue would have kicked that dress up. Also doing something with the thin strap in the back. Maybe if it was a rhinestone or sequin fabric instead and the styling should have been better. Overall, just a boring, safe look.


Hey all, Qristyl will be online and chatting live, taking questions & comments on Friday Sept. 11 at 3 pm ET/12noon PT on Fancast.

http://www.fancast.com/blogs/project-runway/project-runway-live-chat-with-latest-eliminated-designer/

I hope fans can stop by and chat with her.

Jim (for Fancast)


Valerie is gorgeous and walks ferociously, but she did Qristyl no favors with her glum expression as she came down the runway. She just didn't sell the garment, and since the challenge was to make the client-model happy, she would have served Qristyl better if she could have cracked a smile. Tanisha, for her part, looked delighted to prance around in her formal diaper, "cigarette" jacket and braless tank top.

I agree that different styling might have saved this garment. Even last year, the hottest shoes were outrageous platforms, and Qristyl stuck Valerie into boring corporate-ladder pumps. I'll also note that Q (and Epperson) chose terrible shoes last week, too. She earned that auf just for her injudicious use of the Macy's Accessory Wall!


I have to say that the reason Qristyl went home is because the the audience doesn't have a boner for her like they do for Logan. His dress was clearly cheaper looking and uglier. It didn't push any envelopes by being prom-like and tacky. Qristyl's dress was boring... but I wouldn't be embarrassed to wear it! I feel like, especially after the comment Rade made about Logan being cute, he's totally being whored out on PR and he doesn't exactly look happy about that. I guess I think it's too bad how much further you can get just by being cute.


Trish
9/11/09 2:29 PM I have to say that the reason Qristyl went home is because the the audience doesn't have a boner for her like they do for Logan.



I just don't see it. Yeah, he's a nice looking guy, but I really am not getting all of the fuss.


That stylist needed to be reminded that while Valerie isn't a designer, for this challenge she was the client, and in the real world that's the most important opinion in the room.


You know, I don't think Valerie was very *smiley* when she got the job at the party. But she can sure walk.

In the FWIW dept. I wish her all the best - she really seems like a decent person AND she is gorgeous.

I'll miss Q and Valerie : (


On a side note - some people commented that Valerie didn't look young enough. I noticed the models that Jillian uses for her collection look closer to 12 than 20. Is that the ideal?


Oh, and I can't say it enough. I MISS NINA & DUCHESS


Who on earth were these judges anyway and what do they know about being a designer? They really need to have more consistency on the judging panel and people who the designers respect. If Michael Kors can't be bothered to show up any more, then he needs to be replaced properly, not just with whoever happened to be passing the studio at the right time.


poor girl. sure it was safe, but it wasnt near as sloppy as what the boys made. but theres no way the producers were going to let the addict & the cute one go so early. especially with the guest judge flirting so heavily from the sidelines & the only model drama stemming from fatma's stalker fixation. eh - didnt think it was a dress worthy of an aufing.


I miss Valerie and that girl can walk...sigh...oh well I hope she got that job with Christian Audigier...she is gorgeous, she is totally professional, so she won't be hard up, but still it would've been great to see her all the way up to the end. Can you guys do an interview, see what she's up to now?


Lolly (and the Gags)

Did you boys catch the withering look Epp shot Qristal-with-a-Q? My roomies and I lack Tivo, but it seemed to us he mumbled something (poss abt her leaving?)
Real classy.


Why didn't the trannysmurf promdress get aufed??


i'm not dorothy gale

Her garment was not the worst and she didn't deserve to go home. On her way out, though, I hope she thought about keying the skinny white bitch's car......


Two things:

1) The judges didn't criticize the fact that the dress was black. What they objected to was that particular fabric. I think Q bought that fabric to use as the overlay on the original brown dress. It was very flimsy and stretchy and probably cheap (after all, the budget was only $100, and she probably spent more on the brown). So, whereas Althea's may have looked better in person, this probably looked worse.


I feel crabbier than ever. No way was Qristyl's dress worse than Pretty Boy's or Recovery Boy's.
Valerie and Qristyl got totally robbed by a bitch of a judge and those with a penchant for short and ugly.
Bahhhhhhhhh......


Shelly said:

"That stylist needed to be reminded that while Valerie isn't a designer, for this challenge she was the client, and in the real world that's the most important opinion in the room."

BRAVA! Standing ovation for that comment, Shelly!


She was shown to be so panicky from the start that it was pretty obvious she'd soon blow up & then deflate & then give up.


PS - I thought the dress was okay and not auf-able, but Q needs to learn to pick better fabric.

This style in neutral with floaty print overlay would've been nice. Or even, still in the black but with richer looking fabric. Or, any color, really.


I want to know where PR jail is! How long does the actual shooting of a season of this show take?


Logan's dress sucked and so did Johnny's, but they are not a large size gal so of course she had to go.

The dress look nice, classic and sexy without being trashy or showing the models lady bits.

and I agree with everyone else that the stylist was not funny or constructive. just mean and ugly. They need to stop with the stylists and tacky celebs as judges and stick with designers.


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Qristyl took quite the paddy-wacking. Poor thing lost all her robust confidence in a matter of weeks.

Valerie reminded me of Telma Hopkins . She (Valerie) absolutely lit up the room ... which may explain why she got the Ed Hardy gig.


Second thing: The word “bitch” has gone over the top on the comments page. My objection is specifically that it’s anti-woman. There’s no male counterpart that we throw around so freely (and most of the time it’s directed at women). I understand that for some people the word has lost its bite and almost borders on affectionate. I still don’t care for it, but I understand it. But on the comments page, most often it’s angry, it’s rude, and it’s not clever.

This is not about censorship, okay? People will say what they want. And what I want to say is that I wish people would think for a moment before they post things like (and this is just one example) “. . . spit in that helmet-headed bitch's face.” Why not be go the extra mile and say something that takes a little thought, isn't a cheap shot, and isn’t sexist?


Brooklyn Bomber said...
Second thing: The word “bitch” has gone over the top on the comments page . . .



Bitch, please!


I feel a little sad Q is gone but I think she might be someone just not suited for the challenge structure, so I'm not sure how far she would have gotten even with actual real judges. Some people work fine with doing things on the fly, but some people find it easier to plan things out carefully and then set out to work, and the latter way doesn't really work with the structure of the show.


I clicked on your link, Emerson, and the first thing I noticed was the girls in Wilmas!

But I kinda liked these, with the color blocking. If Q's dress was as good as these, she may have won.


"My objection is specifically that it’s anti-woman. There’s no male counterpart that we throw around so freely [...]"

Other than, y'know, dick. Jerk and asshole are generally reserved for guys, too.

Besides, around here, "bitch" is just as likely to be applied to a guy. Which is about as opposite of sexist as you can get.


Jennifer was just hateful, and there's no call for that. Blunt, honest, direct - that's fine, but meanness has no place on the runway. Hope we don't see her again.


BB,
We're all friends here, I truly don't think anything negative was meant. Just affectionate ribbing. On the other hand, it's probably time for all epithets to go the way of the dinosaur (N-word, F-word, et al).
As for the male equivalent, the word "dick" ("oh yeah, dick" "wanna bet, dick") gets bandied about a lot in my male dominated workplace.
FWIW


ha ha skinny white bitch...

I feel bad too, she wasn't really cut out for the stress and drama and folded quite easily. However, I don't think she should have gone home as Jonny's purple people eater was much worse.


That stylist should never ever come back as a judge--pointlessly snarky.

The LBD needed some sort of accent or unique detailing to attract attention--but it was just sort of safe.

Poor Qristyl, I felt even from her portfolio that there's a bit of a taste and sophistication issue. I don't know what her background is, but she's someone who could use a couple of internships--and, yeah, I know she's not in her 20s.


I was really sad to see Valerie gone .. AGAIN! She appears to be more professional than most of the girls there and after watching MotR she seems like a very nice person. Even if I had not watched MotR ever I think I would still really like her. It's a shame b/c in all the years PR has been on I've never really rooted ofr a particular model to win.


Sigh...

Why does someone with a pc agenda, such as deleting the 'bitch' on a gay blog about fashion, try to shut down free speech and force feed their brand of idealism on the masses? Bitch please.


you guys nailed it. That little bitchslap to Valerie was uncalled for!


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To quote my dad, Valerie is the kind of gorgeous whole pkg woman, if you're lucky to have her, you just sign your paycheck to her.


bitchybitchybitchy

JulietheVintageGoddess said:

They need to stop with the stylists and tacky celebs as judges and stick with designers.

9/11/09 3:59 PM

I agree 100%. When I watched the extended judging Mark Bouwer's comments were thoughtful, and constructive, and gave the designers some ideas that they could take with them to use in the future.

In the pregnancy challenge episode Monique Lehuillier's comments were also much more thoughtful.

Hopefully we won't see the stylist-to-Jolie again on this season of PR.


How refreshing, the T-Lo bloggers don't like pointless put-down nastiness to someone who can't repond since their role is to just keep smiling. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy as I indulge my appetitie for all-things-fashion -related news unlike watching Rachel Zoe's show which makes me feel icky and kind of depressed about the future of the world.


mll (another lulu)

Brooklyn Bomber, I totally agree with you and I don't think your comments have anything to do with being PC. Some of us were just raised differently, a nice girl kept her mouth shut rather than say something nasty. I recognize that times have changed, Bob Dylan never got it truer, and it is apparent that there is no comment today that isn't allowed to be made. But I think it's a shame that really intelligent wit has become fairly rare. Think Shakespeare. Or Julia Sugarbaker on Designing Women.

I'm happy to see that there are a few of us here who agree with you and understand that this isn't about censorship, not at all. I'll be the first one to pour water on the bonfire when "they" line up to burn the books or the photographs. It's about lighthearted fun on a topic we are all passionate about to one degree or another. And it most definitely is about NOT sinking to the depths of so many internet websites and other television shows.


Brooklyn Bomber,

If it's any consolation, I called Jennifer Rade a "raging asshole." ;-)


SpellCheQ should have been the one to go.

She *admitted* during the show that she switched and went for something "safe" ("I gotta come up with something else and ... black would be safe, and it better be good").

The end result; instead of a scrunched up brown and black concoction we got a scrunched up black concoction. It just didn't seem all that different from what Tim first saw and it wasn't good.

At least Logan's dress, I could see an idea and his model really could pull it off with some tweaking because she's got that lovely edgy look. And he seemed to know *where* he went wrong during the judging session and I think judges can appreciate some self-reflection and explanation.

Whatshisname's dress was at least a colour and while it did look like a lot of other dresses already hanging in 'B' malls, at least it had that, a happy model who didn't look like she should be behind the bar or carrying a tray and the fabric choice looked more appropriate.

I remember when her profile came up on this blog and there were lots of 'she'll last a few episodes and fall off' so I'm not surprised she didn't blossom with this chance and was aufed.

Ah, well.


Rillion, ha! Yes, I feel much better. Thank you.

Tina -- good point, though I don't think of "asshole" as having a gender. I apply it equally and without prejudice! But, anyway, we see "bitch" here a lot more often than asshole, jerk, or dick (a word I rarely hear. Drag about your workplace, Anon. 4:23!)

And mll/Lulu, thank you. The only think I have to 'fess up to is that I do in fact curse quite liberally. So I'm not sure if I qualify for nice girl, but most of the time I try not to say hateful things. (Unless we're talking about Dick --no pun intended- Cheney, of course.)


Tina said:

Besides, around here, "bitch" is just as likely to be applied to a guy. Which is about as opposite of sexist as you can get.



Expressions like "make someone your bitch" are examples of how bitch is used to describe someone who is dominated - who is lesser than. It is hard to avoid that underlying meaning whether it is applied to a male or female.

I put in my vote for civility. Unless the incivility is really funny.


mll (another lulu)

BB, I'm not a nice girl about Dick Cheney either!
LOL! : d


OT:
But I just read the TLo facebook account of Tim Gunn where he says that Ra'mon dyed that neoprene dress in the toilet! Did I miss read that? Gross! If that poor model had to wear a damp dress that was in the toilet, Tim is right , they really should have sent Ra'mon home too.


TLo on 9/11/09 at 12:24 PM said... Yep. They're usually put up in a hotel room until shooting is over.

Jaysus Chrysler!!!1 I have found the scam I have been waiting for all my life! I am going to get my non-sewing butt on PR knowing full well I will get the ax in the first challenge. I am then going to proceed to have a great time in NYC compliments of the great folks at Lifetime!!! Room Service menu please! LOL! LOL!

TampaBay


Hey..maybe that's what Bitchell did! Ahh...now it all makes SENSE that he never really seemed to try very hard.

~Meadow


eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww! I could not stand that guest judge! She has a horrible personality!


Guest judge with the bad nose job had no right to slam Q's model. Even my husband, who claims that he's NOT watching, said 'ouch' after her remark.

Johnny's bridemaid dress was the worst of the evening, but Qristyl's number was up. She just wasn't her sassy self last night.


mll (another lulu) said...
Brooklyn Bomber, I totally agree with you and I don't think your comments have anything to do with being PC. Some of us were just raised differently, a nice girl kept her mouth shut rather than say something nasty. I recognize that times have changed, Bob Dylan never got it truer, and it is apparent that there is no comment today that isn't allowed to be made. But I think it's a shame that really intelligent wit has become fairly rare. Think Shakespeare. Or Julia Sugarbaker on Designing Women.

I'm happy to see that there are a few of us here who agree with you and understand that this isn't about censorship, not at all. I'll be the first one to pour water on the bonfire when "they" line up to burn the books or the photographs. It's about lighthearted fun on a topic we are all passionate about to one degree or another. And it most definitely is about NOT sinking to the depths of so many internet websites and other television shows.


9/11/09 4:54 PM

I'm with BB and MLL, bitches.

However, while I agree with their sentiments, I respectfully disagree with the idea that "this isn't about censorship." It is EXACTLY about censorship.

I think the core distinction is that claiming that it's always ok to use derogatory terms even when they're actually being used in a derogatory fashion (as opposed to in a lighthearted fashion) is, in essence, "reverse PC censorship." Basically, you want to shut up the other guy, just in a different way - as in shut him/her up from complaining about your actual offensiveness or because you're too mentally lazy to come up with a more descriptive term that is NOT offensive and you resent being called on it. You prefer to be free to foist your bad manners on everybody else all the time, so you try to "reverse censor" anybody who objects to your offensive use of language.

You're on a computer, for cryin' out loud. Use the online thesaurus if you can't think of a substitute word.

Now, can we please all stop bitching about this, bitches? It's making me very bitchy.


She was a skinny bitch, with the emphasis on bitch. How can someone who looks like the second runner up in a drag queen Cher lookalike contest gets to judge who should be a designer. She's a stylist for God's sake, which essentially means she's a professional SHOPPER! THAT is why (thank God!) she is not a designer!
Althea's skirt was a hot mess and the top didn't fit. Carol Hannah's looked like it could have come from the plus size department at Macy's. I am so over these guest judges.


Kathryn said:
She was a skinny bitch, with the emphasis on bitch. How can someone who looks like the second runner up in a drag queen Cher lookalike contest gets to judge who should be a designer. She's a stylist for God's sake, which essentially means she's a professional SHOPPER! THAT is why (thank God!) she is not a designer!


Several people have expressed this view in various forms, and I think it's unfair.

Here's why: A doctor may not be able to cure cancer, but he/she can spot it and describe it. Miss Mouth, as a stylist, probably knows every line cold and has an eye for quality of construction, good lines, tastefulness, and fashion trends. I'm sure she's more than qualified to make some very good observations and critiques here.

However, she chose to use her time in the spotlight to be mean to Valerie. All she did was show herself to be undiplomatic and less than professional. That she did so doesn't automatically wipe out all her expertise.

Possibly some potential clients and some future TV guest spots, though.

Poor Valerie. She didn't deserve to be trashed for truthfully answering the question about whether she liked the dress. I'm sorry to see her go and wish her well in her modeling career.


I liked the dress.


People are complaining about the word bitch on a bitchy gay website where people snark about fashion?

Seriously?

I can totally understand if 'ladies' want to control their own blogs when it comes to language usage, but trying to control someone else's blog?

LOL! Hilarious. Nice try, though.


mll (another lulu)

MouseAnony said:

I'm with BB and MLL, bitches.

However, while I agree with their sentiments, I respectfully disagree with the idea that "this isn't about censorship." It is EXACTLY about censorship.

I think the core distinction is that claiming that it's always ok to use derogatory terms even when they're actually being used in a derogatory fashion (as opposed to in a lighthearted fashion) is, in essence, "reverse PC censorship." Basically, you want to shut up the other guy, just in a different way - as in shut him/her up from complaining about your actual offensiveness or because you're too mentally lazy to come up with a more descriptive term that is NOT offensive and you resent being called on it. You prefer to be free to foist your bad manners on everybody else all the time, so you try to "reverse censor" anybody who objects to your offensive use of language.


With all due respect, Mouse, I personally did not say anything of the kind. Furthermore I've read that paragraph three times and I still find it rather obtuse and wordy. I rarely use derogatory terms because that's just not who I am. I really don't want to start an argument about censorship because it's a very complex subject, works much better in a live debate setting, one that has rules, and Tom and Lorenzo have no interest in us going there anyway.

For anyone who has read this blog (and comments) consistently, which I do, and I'm guessing that you do too, it is evident that folks of all stripes are participating. My objections to some language, and I rarely comment thusly, stem from an old-fashioned upbringing, not from lack of open-mindedness, or from political correctness. But I don't live in the world my parents did, and my language in real life, however mild it would appear to many bloggers and commenters, would appall my folks and I would "censor" myself around them out of respect. And I think that is all I wish to say on the subject.

Peace.


mll (another lulu)

To Anonymous 6:40pm—

I am offended that you are interpreting remarks by me and BB and a few others as trying to control this blog.
You could not be further from the truth. You asshole.
Now I really am done.


Girls, GIRLS!

Don't make me sic TLO on BOTH YO' ASSES!

It's just a blog, it's just a show...B-R-E-A-T-H-E

_Meadow


Mll said: With all due respect, Mouse, I personally did not say anything of the kind. Furthermore I've read that paragraph three times and I still find it rather obtuse and wordy.

Mll, I know YOU didn't say anything of the kind and I meant no offense whatsoever to you.

In that post, "you" refers to those posters who are using arguably sexist terms in derogatory fashion rather than humorously, without naming those folks specifically. As in, "Y'all are being insensitive dicks. Stop trying to shut up the folks who merely point out that your language choice, when not intended humorously, is offending them. Freedom of speech and good manners go both ways."


Karmadav asked - I want to know where PR jail is! How long does the actual shooting of a season of this show take?

If it was the same as past years, about three weeks; the crew shoots non-stop with Sundays off, I believe. Usually PR jail is on a different floor of the same place the 'in' contestants are staying.

And being sequestered after being 'aufed' isn't quite a blast; the contestants have to stay in their suite and are not allowed to contact the outside world unsupervised.


I think that I can sum up the problem about Q being auf'd and in this way. It reminds me of Suede's aufing. The week that they offed him was one of the weeks he really did NOT deserve to go - because of BS judging. (Remember he did the Rock outfit for Jerrell?)

TLo's comment about Tim: We think he was off the mark on this one. Geez I was beginning to feel like I was the only one who thought this. I have posted in the last few weeks about a number times lately that Tim's comments or advice seemed really off. C'mon Tim step it up :o because it is scaring me.


Shelly - great comment about the model/customer.

I posted on the Althea but what is with the hate of Jersey. Cotton, rayon, silk jerseys can be lovely and feel fab.


Vienna Marriott - I think you had Johnny and Logan switched.
There seems to be a lot of criticism of Johnny's but I liked it and thought that Mark's saying that it could be worn by anyone was ridiculous as a criticism. Yes I get that most designers only want to design for size 0, 6 foot tall teenagers, so in their world it is contemptuous to call a design wearable.

Oh and I like Dick.


Dick is the male counterpart of Bitch.


Dirty Diamond

And I like to suck dick!


This made me think of PRG!

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/09/09/funny-pictures-need-a-new-minion/

Anyway, I'm sorry to see both Q and V go. It seemed they both took the criticism too much to heart. The designated guest judge (as opposed to the fill-in judges) was quite rude!

(another suz)


Y'know it's a really sad & scary commentary when I'm looking back at LiLo as one of the better guest judges this season....

srq


I think that calling Jennifer Rade a bitch was actually an accurate and appropriate use of the word. However, it has always disturbed me that the greatest insult that you can throw at a guy is NOT to call him a dick, but to call him a douche or pussy, which are both female-oriented. Or cocksucker, which has reference to women and gays. I guess both of them play on men's greatest fears (hetero men, that is).

I agree with whoever it was upthread who said that styling could have helped this dress immensely. Look at the styling on the (mediocre) winning look. I also agree that Tim was wrong, wrong, wrong with his comment to Qristyl. This is about the third time I've thought he's been wrong this season, which is, indeed, alarming. It is a pity that she didn't have more of the brown fabric to do a second look, if she had to do a second look.

Regardless of how he looks, I don't think they would send Logan home for two reasons: 1) He (and Chris) won the team challenge, and 2) his model's directions were part of the problem with the design.

I can't for the life of me understand why one of the other designers didn't snag Valerie. Yeah, she looks a bit older, but so does Vanessa. But her body and walk are to die for. Althea's bunched-up suit would have looked much better on her than on Tanisha, who is red hot but too curvy and short-waisted to carry off that look. Valerie has the long, slender waist that could have made that look stand out (in a good way). Maybe Gordana should have picked Val; her model (who I like) could be why she is getting overlooked. That's the only reason I can think of, anyway, since the judges are different every week.


Am I the only one that did a double take when Heidi reiterated the challenge as making something that stands out at an event? I could have sworn it was make what the model wants to wear to stand out at an event.

J.Rade was way out of line with her comment about the model not being a designer.


I think it was a justified auf simply from the standpoint of Qristyl giving up and playing it way too safe.

As for the judging, lots of nastiness for the sake of nastiness.


HA!
Screencap of model giving the side eye= brilliance!

Not that I thought Qristal's dress was a winner but I had to laugh that the woman who has Angelina Jolie as a client dissed it and all Angelina walks around in is usually 2 or 3 versions of the same sort of dress- solid color, body hugging and non descript. I get it - she is ANGELINA and its all about her and not her dress but come ON!


Qristal should have been given the boot not for her work, but that awful blouse she was wearing is proof enough that she will never have good taste.


Logan's was worse but this was Logan's first misstep and crystal with Q has been on the chopping block a few times. I didn't think it was a bad dress. In terms of wearability...i think it was way cuter than johnny's . I think she would have been saved if she had done it in any other color. That black was just too drab for her model. In a jewel tone, in white, in anything else she would have looked great. And after watching MOTR, didn't Valerie say she "kinda" liked it.....which didn't help Q at all. Not in one where the model was the client.


Most deserving auf ever. I dunno, I feel like the show is getting back on track a bit now that Mitchell and Qristyl are gone. She hasn't produced a single interesting piece in her thankfully brief run on the show. Her color sense was atrocious and I think being forced to design in a somber tone highlighted the fact that she tried to distract from her lack of creativity with the busy, tacky prints and bright colors. This dress was just as uninspired and boring as her noose necked maternity tent.


I'm a little late on this one, but did anybody else find the back of Qristyl's dress veeeeery reminiscent of Ra'mon's neoprene dress last week? The cut and drape look very similar to my, and they both have the strap running diagonally from left to right. That bothered me.


Safe? Yes. Dull? Yes.
But well-sewn, which could not be said about Johnny's dress, which was puckered and did not fit his model--easily one of the worst dresses so far this season. I think they just wanted Qristyl gone.


Qristal was definitely in the Express lane to and early auf, but she shouldn't have gone this week.

Logan's dress was a high school girl's attempt to make a costume for a Duran Duran video. If Molly Ringwald had come up with that mess, she would have stayed home from the prom.

But I guess the producers wanted Shirtless Logan to hang around a while longer. Funny, whenever he opens his mouth, he instantly seems less cute to me. He's very talented, but better people than him have gotten the auf in previous seasons for one painful misstep.

Johnny's was hideous as well, especially in the awful way it treated the model's bazooms. Torpedos locked and ready!

(And while I'm here, why didn't they let Shirtless Daniel hang out longer last year? Dayum!)


fragileindustries

Narita said:
poor girl. sure it was safe, but it wasnt near as sloppy as what the boys made. but theres no way the producers were going to let the addict & the cute one go so early. especially with the guest judge flirting so heavily from the sidelines & the only model drama stemming from fatma's stalker fixation. eh - didnt think it was a dress worthy of an aufing.
________

Thank you. The producers' heavy hand this season is really obvious and ticking me off. Or auf. Q's dress should have been in the middle, and the Green Lantern Lampshade belonged in the bottom 3. But that would have risked the Midwestern Newbie, the Home Town Hero With Strange Hatitude, along with The Addict and The Cute Guy. Plot-wise, the producers wanted them to go forward no matter what. The discrepancy between actual runway content and plot manipulation has never been so obvious (except for keeping Vincent as long as they did, and that was in a galaxy far, far away and long ago.

Feh.


I wasn't blown away by Qristyl's dress - but it wasn't bad. I agree that the first iteration looked more interesting (despite the shitty color) - which is more than I can say about Lifetime's tinkering with the show.

Frankly - I'm bored. To tears. The challenges are anything but (where's the opportunity for an Austin Scarlett to whip up masterpieces out of left-over veggie parts?). The guest judges fade into the background (beige – I think I want to paint the ceiling beige). I mean where’s the beef? Bravo.....I miss you, my darling – please buy our precious ‘Runway’ back from the TV equivalent of the suburbs before I go gaga!


In my humble opinion, emphasis on humble, PR usually gives designers another chance if they try something and it fails -- but boring is(and always has been) the easiest way to get auf'd.

And speaking of boring, can we please have a decent challenge?

I want to see wrestlers and car parts and candy.

Suz


I realize there are readers who get irked when PR in other countries gets talked about, but I have to say I just finished a PR Australia 2 marathon and am FAR more into that than I am this season of PR USA.
Can't wait to see the season finale next week!


The Fru-Gals on 9/12/09 at 6:22 AM said...In my humble opinion, emphasis on humble......And speaking of boring, can we please have a decent challenge?

I want to see wrestlers and car parts and candy.

Suz

Suz-THANK YOU!!! The "strange" material challenges always separate the dress makers from the true designers.

I hope next week is definitely a "strange" challenge.

TampaBay


I never thought Qristyl was the best designer around, but she definitely didn't deserve to go home for this one. And Tim got this one wrong - I think her initial black/brown creation was actually rather nice, and probably would have kept her safe.

KU-DOS to the poster who pointed out that as the client in this challenge, Q's model's opinion was not only relevant, it was necessary! That skanky guest judge better not be in any futher episodes. And if an LA season makes it impossible for The Duchess and La Nina to judge in the majority of challenges then they never should have moved it. It's not like we're seeing any more of LA than NY - a workroom, Mood and the interior of some automobiles. Get it together, Producers!


The guest judge was unneccasarily mean. There was absolutely no need to say, "Thank God" after Valerie admitted she is not a designer.


This was absolutely the correct auf. Q has consistently been in the bottom 3, seems to have a very limited design repertoire, always chooses ugly and cheap fabric, has very questionable taste and frankly should have been sent packing based on that hideous shiny top she wore on the runway. Her LBD wasn't the worst thing (I think Christopher's green monstrosity was the worst look of the night) but it was boring, bland and it was clear that she wasn't going to be able to step up. She didn't create a single interesting thing during her PR tenure. So, goodbye Spellcheck! I will miss Valerie much more than Q. She had really bad luck in constantly being paired with the losing designer but she's so much better than some of the other girls. I would love to see her working Gordana's designs.

I didn't love the judges and I agree that it doesn't feel right without Nina and the Duchess, but I don't think people are remembering the many, many truly ridiculous choices made by those two. After hearing her wax raphsodic about the neoprene thing last week, Nina's judgment and integrity have taken a real hit, as far as I'm concerned. And MK's questionable decisions are too numerous to mention. Hell, giving Daniel V the win in All
Stars is enough to turn me off of them forever.


sewing siren: 2 puppies fighting under a spandex blanket!!!
I LOVE you!

I thought Althea's was a hideous piece of crap that looked very, very poorly made. And the crazy boobage problems were very distracting; that poor model looked like she was going to bounce right up and over the neckline.

That guest judge had NO business being so abusive to the model. Would she have spoken that way if the client had been anyone else (say, Rebecca Romijn?)??

This was a seriously cracked-out judging round. I thought Carol Hannah's dress was not very attractive; I thought Peppermint Patty's dress deserved more attention; Qrstl's wasn't that hideous; Althea's was a mess; and on and on and on.

that Guest judge was the worst part of the show, though.


Q definitely deserved to be Auf'd at some point soon--but not for this. Maybe it wasn't ground-breaking, but it was simple and tasteful, which is more than I can say for a lot of the other numbers.

Logan's monstrosity was much worse, cheap and tawdry looking--not even my 17 yr old would wear that to the prom. Frankly, I think he got a pass because Cruella de Vil went all cougar on him and his shiny pants.

And speaking of Cruella her nasty comment to Q and model, coupled with her flirtation with Logan, were totally inappropriate and should have, IMO, disqualified her as a judge right there and then. I think after that, both designers should have gotten a free pass and lived to fight another day. There is a major difference between constructive and amusing bitchiness and just plain cruelty.


I'd like to adrress something that I am not if sure it was brought up earlier or in another thread. Something that I only just recalled. Qristyl's name could be an amalagam and not just some affectation. I have known and worked wih some black people who have told me sometimes parents will create a name for their child that is a hybrid of the parents' names.

I know people have understandably made wisecracks about the spelling but if her name was the result of such a hrbid then it's actually kind of cool to me. I mean having a name that reflects both your mom and your dad

Frank


The do you like this dress/that's why you're not a designer exchange was sooooo rude to both Valerie and Qristyl. There is a way to be honest without being a total jerk.


It's called sarcasm. And also editing people. At least Rade had opinions. And aren't the judges there to judge?


I like that the judges are getting rid of repeat offenders. Logan's dress wasn't so awful that he deserved an auf. He deserved to stay.

Mitchell should have gone second round, but at least they didn't give him a 4th chance...

Qrystal just didn't produce anything worthy, and that doesn't mean she's not talented, just that she can't isn't cut out for project runway's time constraints.


"Anonymous
9/11/09 10:04 PM Qristal should have been given the boot not for her work, but that awful blouse she was wearing is proof enough that she will never have good taste."


Whatevs. Keep on hatin'. Q will be just fine.


I didn't like Johnny's either (or at least I liked it as much as the aufed one), but I can see why they choose Q'rystyl (sp?).

She'd yet to produce anything vaguely note worthy, in fact her first outfit was a shocker. I'm a home sewer and I could have produced a lot better.

At the risk of sounding bitchy, I question her taste level based on her own choice of clothing which does nothing at all to flatter her chest.

And if I remember correctly on the last challenge with Epperson, it was his work that pulled them through, not hers, and on the various occasions he tried to talk it out with her, she blocked him. I feel bad for Valerie who really seemed lovely, but not for Q'(insert right spelling here) who just came across as all mouth, no play.


Although Qristyl definitely isn't the best designer there, I didn't think she deserved to go home this week. Sure, her dress wasn't super interesting but it was still pretty and youthful and something a lot of women would wear. I thought Christopher's, on the other hand, was pretty ugly and very promlike. That comment from the judge was also unnecessarily bitchy, of course the model's going to say she likes it.


9/11/09 10:04 PM "Qristal should have been given the boot not for her work, but that awful blouse she was wearing is proof enough that she will never have good taste."

If we used that criteria to judge designers, Zac Posen, Marc Jacobs, Betsey Johnson, and quite a few others would not be working today. Designers are not the most likely people to dress themselves well. And a lack of any sort of color sense seems to be the rule rather than the exception this season.

The reason I didn't like Rade's treatment of Valerie was that she wasn't there to judge Valerie's design sense or taste. Also, she was picking on someone in a position far below hers, and someone who was not in the position to render an honest opinion or even have an astute design sense. Pick on the designers, fine, but picking on the models is like picking on the crew.

It's too bad, because she seemed to be pretty knowledgeable.


Nina and Michael gone? WTF? I hope this is fixed for the real season (as this was taped eons ago.) Je deteste that guest judge--when you are filling in there is no need to be so rude. Actually, there's no need to be so rude regardless. Valerie is so classy. I'm glad she got a follow-up job so fast but with Ed Hardy? Blech.

I didn't think this dress was so bad. I think a more interesting color would have been better. I really really didn't get Althea's look.





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