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All-Star Santino

It's Labor Day! No one's reading blogs! What better time to finally get to this attention whore?


As you may or may not know, the day after the All-Star special aired, we mentioned in passing that Santino's "performance" was lame and embarassing. This led to quite the little hissy fit on his twitter feed and he said, among other things, that we "don't get it and we never will," a phrase more appropriate for a 4th grade schoolyard taunt.

The thing is, we DO get it. We're not talking Joyce's Ulysses here. We're talking about reality television and the types of personalities that are drawn to it time and time again. Santino's just one in a long line of hundreds of people who do these shows because they think it will lead to something bigger down the line. He spends more time appearing on television than he does actually producing anything in the way of fashion so we don't think we're going out on a limb here when we say he acted like a jackass deliberately. He couldn't have cared less about the prize money. The whole thing was an audition for him.

And to be honest, we have no problem with that. Play the game if you wanna. Believe it or not, we enjoyed the hell out of Santino in season 2. Sure, he was obnoxious, but he was also incredibly entertaining. The problem this time? It was like watching The Monkees reunite for a world tour in 1989. The time has passed and what we're left with is someone trying WAY too hard to recapture the past by recycling their old hits. It was, as we said, embarrassing.

Okay, we got that off our chests. Now let's look at the clothes.

We like it.

Honestly, we do. It's not exactly groundbreaking but we can see a Hollywood starlet wearing this out for a night on the town and posing for paparazzi.

We could do without the fringe and there was (no surprise) some technical issues, but it's not a bad look overall.

Awful.

There wasn't just a taste issue here. This goes beyond simple taste issues. DVF nailed it when she said it was "vulgar."

Again, we could see some starlet wearing this but we can also see it showing up on a million Worst Dressed lists within a week. A shame, because the bust is actually kind of interesting. But the tightness in the crotch along with the tacky fabric choice ruined whatever it had going for it.

Believe it or not, we REALLY like this look, which he made from the restaurant materials.

It's unique and yet still trendy and it looks expensive, which is odd, because Santino rarely makes things that look expensive.

It's very much in that Hollywood starlet mode that he does well. If he paid more attention to his fashion and less on landing a television show, he could really build himself a healthy clientele.

See, this is why it's so obvious that he wasn't there to win anything. It's like there was no thought whatsoever put into this look.

Except for a little interest around the bust, it's as basic as basic gets. It looks like something Ginger Grant would have packed along with the thousand other dresses she took on that three-hour tour.

And it was rendered in that same cheap and tacky looking fabric.

There. We're done. Good luck on your television career, Santino. We'll watch Ru Paul's Drag Race no matter who's on the judging panel but we've got to say, if you ever get your own show, and if you're anything like the attention-starved child you were on THIS show, we'll probably tune out. You were more fun when you weren't trying so hard.



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AMEN my bruthas! Santino was better when he was just Santino - annoying, but in small doses, entertaining. Now he's just annoying and seems like a total douche.


The only decent outfit out of the bunch is the one made from the restaurant materials. The others do look vulgar and cheap, with a dash of "look, I'm sitting on my couch watching Project Runway - I could be a designer - here are my sketches." They all look as though the creator never attended a single fashion class.

I found Santino's personality to be grating, and his ego to be quite over-inflated in proportion to his skill level.


He acted like an attention starved middle-child.

And his clothes weren't even that interesting, it was like he was phoning it in. Santino on season 2 of PR was entertaining at least while he was annoying, this time he was just annoying.


I found Santino's "performance" embarrasing. I'm just going to leave it at that because you'ze guys pretty much spoke my mind.


Santino seems to have a special gift for making even models' bodies look bad. The clothes are either shapeless or they cling in the wrong places with the wrong fabrics in the wrong colors. I thought all of it was bad, although the restaurant outfit did forego the sparkly stuff.

And you're right about Santino trying too hard. Part of what made him entertaining in Season 2 was the sweetness of Nick and Andrae for him to play off of. No one wanted to play that role in All-Stars. Daniel V. made clear he wasn't going to this time around.


The judges kept saving and saving him in season 2 even when he really should have been out. His *creativity* saved, his execution was a failure. Michael Kors called him out on this during the last challenge. This time they got tired of it.


As always, impeccably stated. What a jackass.


santino was obnoxious and childish, but is that really so bad? At least he was funny. Michael and that fake uli/sweet p drama were so boring I would have tuned out completely. Santino did act obnoxiously but at least a couple things he said were genuinely funny.


I actually loved his restaurant dress, too. It was a bit too...what's the word?..."twee". Like a doll's dress, but it was cute and constructed surprisingly well. But, Santino has always been my least favorite PR alumnus, and this confirms it. He's just a brash, gaudy person (who's like twelve feet tall! I forgot how tall he was!) with limited talent.


"AMEN my bruthas! Santino was better when he was just Santino - annoying, but in small doses, entertaining. Now he's just annoying and seems like a total douche."

i second that!


The stretchiness of the fabric on that last dress made the model's hip bones look ridiculous. I mean, there's no shortage of undernourished-looking girls on runways, but I can't remember the last time I was that distracted by them.


Somehow I end up feeling bad for him, like he tries too hard and then makes himself look even worse... so instead of peaking people's interest because he's an interesting personality and an interesting designer, people tune him out.

When he doesn't try so hard he's funny, though a little over the top, and he clearly has talent.

Sigh. Just sigh.


'DVF nailed it when she said it was "vulgar."'

TRUTH. There wasn't even a question as to whether or not it was sexy and ugh is that close up vile. Plus, the color made me want to throw up.

Just ewww all around.


Tim made some pretty cutting comments about Santino at the All-Star challenge. Sounds like the cut out some of his worst attention hogging but that he drove the crew as well as Tim and the other designers nuts.

Santino came off as a major has-been recycling old material.


"Believe it or not, we enjoyed the hell out of Santino in season 2."

Agreed! I also agree that his behavior on the All-Star episode was just plain boring.

p.s: I enjoyed The Monkees 1989 tour, thank you very much!


His intentions were obvious from the moment he opened his mouth, and remained crystal clear to the last moment, when he was nowhere to be seen on the runway congratulating Daniel V. Even Sebelia was man enough to come out for the curtain call, but Santino? He got what he needed, and was off in search of a camera that wasn't sick of his ass.


I believe that Santino has talent, but his narcissistic personality makes it easier for him to make a spectacle of himself than buckle down and work. I agree with Korto's bluntly dismissive assessment, "where I come from, we'd call him a fool" or something to that effect.

I am in total agreement with TLo's comments on the clothes. See what he did while spending most of his energy on jackassery? Put out two pretty nice pieces. That's why I believe he is talented.


TLo said:
It's Labor Day! No one's reading blogs! What better time to finally get to this attention whore?


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Hey, hey!! Thanks for posting, boys! You have added pizazz to an otherwise very boring day!!
Hmmmm, I don't think "pizazz" belongs in the same breath as "Santino", though, and I so totally agree with everything in your post!!!
Thanks for laboring for your loyal minions on Labor Day!! XOXO


I *loved* the Monkees reunion tours!!! And they had new songs!

In season 2, Santino was just being himself. In the all-star challenge, Santino was trying to be a reality TV star.

I didn't even find him interested in season 2. And when the producers saved him *twice* in season 2 (lingerie challenge and makeover challenge) he got two people kicked off who should not have gone home (Daniel Franco and Nick). Nick should have been in the finals!


Oops - that should be "didn't find him interesting," not "interested."

Another thought: You'd think after that *horrific* stretchy jumpsuit he made for Kara that he would have known better than to do another stretchy jumpsuit!


When Jeffrey Sebelia of all people was like "Hey, my brotha" to Santino at the beginning of the show and completely sick of him long before the end, you know he had to have been unbearable.


peaking people's interest=piquing people's interest.

just so you know next time you want to use that word. :)


Vegan, well said.


DAMN! You boys are good and Santino IS a douche!


"peaking people's interest=piquing people's interest."

Ugh, I totally missed that (And I'm such a typo-phobe). Ty!


Remember when Santino took Shanelle to task on her taste level--during the RuPaul's Drag Race reunion?

Ironic isn't it?


Santino's intended clientele is obviously transsexual prostitutes.


I liked Santino's restaurant challenge dress. His "Princess Diana's wedding dress meets tuxedo" concept was very strong visually.

The rest was cheapened by that God-awful hooker fabric. And the body suit just seemed to be him saying "Hey, guys, I can make one correctly now. How cool am I?"

I do think his unrelenting obnoxiousness was partially an editorial creation. Remember, Uli wrote in to TLo that she and Santino laughed their asses off the entire time. All we got to see was him continually sticking his nose in the camera. The high good humor in his eyes was jarringly incongruous with the intended viewer perception of total a-hole behavior, and I would have loved to see some excerpts of that two-sided joking around.

You just knew that he was going to get the "asshole" edit, but I think we got gypped out of some true hilarity that it would have been quite nice to see.


A. greed. Love the restaurant look, too.

There was a little bit of the old Santino at one point when he skootched down the hall and around a corner carrying a load of shit (maybe the restaurant dress?) and he actually looked happy.

I felt sorry (and embarrassed) for him for most of the show. There was a glimmer of sadness just below the surface. Hopefully, he'll grow up & take your comments to heart.

When the designers stood out in the hall with Virtual Nicole Kidman, he did something so strange and so revealing that he couldn't control. His neck & eyes jerked around and clearly said: Oh. Shit. Do I have regrets.

But, that soon passed and he carried on playing the jackass and threw those two vulgar pieces down the runway.


"It looks like something Ginger Grant would have packed along with the thousand other dresses she took on that three-hour tour"

You guys are the best!


You lay off my Monkees, Boys.

That aside, you are positively spoiling us. Thank you, darlings.


when I first saw Santino's restuarant challenge look, I immediately thought of Dolce & Gabanna. I still like it though.


I'm with you, MouseAnony, I also remember that comment by Ulli and wish we'd seen more of them all having a giggle. Whatever you want to say about Santino, he's pretty sharp when he wants to be, and can be hilarious. His Tim impressions made S2 for me.

Loved him on RuPaul's Drag Race, and loved him here, even though he was acting the fool most of the time and just didn't care. Shame he didn't have anyone willing to be really crazy with him this time.

He's still one of my favourite ever PR personalities (not designers), even though I can't remember more than one outfit he ever made.


I really loved Santino as a judge on RuPaul's Drag Race. So his behavior here really surprised me. I don't completely hate the red carpet dress. I think the style was pretty good, and had he found a more interesting fabric it could have been quite spectacular. I agree with you on all the rest of the outfits.


I would be annoyed by him if he weren't so very sad. That kind of histrionic behavior is just pitiable. Emotionally, he must be in so much pain. Violent, rampant insecurity. Otherwise, where would all that come from?

It's easy to throw words like "jackass" and "douchebag" around, but really, there's an emotional disorder at work here. Get some help, man.


What a waste of talent!

TampaBay


What's with all the hatred and anger, guys? It's not becoming and I think it's unfounded. Lay off.


Well. . . I didn't think he was so bad. That is, I didn't enjoy the antics, but he was just being his public self, which is showoffy. And then when he realized he was struggling, he actually got a bit vulnerable.


I LOVED the restaurant look. I actually feel sorry for Santino. There's a lot of baggage there and none of it's from Louis Vuitton.


When he started to trash Sweet P and Jeffrey Sebelia on camera I knew he was desperate for attention and I just couldn't take it anymore. It was painful to watch. I do not think he's talented enough.


Yeah, I still enjoyed him. But your point is spot on.


I love how Santino says that Tlo's "opinions mean nothing" and yet he comes here to read them and then talks about it on his Twitter. Hahahaha. And anyone who says "Fuck U Old Man!" to Tim Gunn does not deserve my respect. I hope this is the last time we hear or see him on PR.


Personally I don't have the energy to spare to hate on Santino. But I do think it's all a little sad. During S2, I went back and forth on him. He could be annoying as hell and he could be hilarious. His execution skill was variable but the man does have a certain sense of artistry as Kors said. He had ideas that could have been interesting if better enacted. Here we didn't even get interesting ideas.

I honestly felt he didn't seriously try. Choosing instead to give the prodcuers juicy sound bytes that will guarentee him as much camera time as possible.

Yes everyone expects Santino to act a certain way for drama or entertainment. But there is still limits to that. And even if Tlo and the rest of us "don't get it" and he was putting on a performance, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day Project Runway is still about a chance to see unkown/small-name designers cranking out beautiful and exciting clothes that are fashion forward.

Does anyone think Santino can be taken seriously as a member of the industry based on this reunion show?

Frank


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You know how sometimes you watch someone perform who is so inept or unselfaware that you squirm and blush for them? I don't know if Santino is that inept performer or someone who actually needs some help and counseling. Either way he is unpleasant to watch. I will go out of my way to never see him again on anything.

I have to second Spanky, "Get some help, man."


"peaking people's interest=piquing people's interest."

No - TLo is correct. Our interest
in Santino "peaked" some time ago, and we are all over him by now.

And thanks for the Labor Day post!


Also, thanks TLo for posting today!


" Allison said: He acted like an attention starved middle-child."



Wouldn't that make him Jan Brady?

--GothamTomato


Your critique of his collection nailed it. I couldn't believe when he said on air that people would be coming up to him and saying he should have won. Not with that lazy assortment of garments.


"Tlo said: It was like watching The Monkees reunite for a world tour in 1989."



LOL. I was there for their 20th Reunion tour, and I've gotta say a Monkees reunion being compared to Sad Santino is off because the Monkees were, at some point, a big hit. They actually accomplished something.

A more appropriate comparison would be a Kardashian reunion.

--GothamTomato


LOVE: "Wouldn't that make him Jan Brady?"
Who, then, is Marsha Marsha Marsha?
Daniel V in this epi? DrSparkles


I have to completely agree with everything you've said. I loved Santino in season 2, loved him on Ru Paul's but he was trying WAY too hard on this show and nobody was playing ball. That being said some of the clothes were cute and he certainly didn't put out the worst runway collection (in my humble opinion) but still meh.

Now that you've finished with everyone here's how I would have ranked them:

Uli
Korto
Chris
Michael
Daniel
Santino
Jeffery
Sweet P


And just think, if Uncle Tim is to be believed in the interview he gave about the All-Stars show, the editing probably made Satantino look BETTER! I mean really, if you out-ass Jeffrey Sebelia, you know you are acting a damn fool. And if you send a severe camel toe down the runway, then you don't have the talent to back up the bad behavior.


God help me, I liked his looks alot better then I thought I would have. Especially the first and restaurant looks. It was so obvious that Santino was just there to ass out, it was impossible for anyone to take him seriously, even his brosky Jeffrey.

Damnit, I like Santino, in short, quick, doses. There is no way I could've been trapped in a room for a long period of time, unless you're looking for a sequel to the 'The Shining.'


I love Santino's entertainment value in season 2 and thought he was really hilarious! Of course, I watched season 2 a week after I watched the All-Star Challenge, and even when I saw him on the All-Star Challenge for the first time, I got a "trying-too-hard" vibe from him.


i'm not dorothy gale

Oh YEAH. I loved watching Santino in season 2 with his Tim impersonations and excessive embellishment and call-me-crazy thought he would actually make something of himself after the show.

Wrong. His blog is a constant valentine to himself. He's created nothing but contempt in those of us who thought he had potential. At best he's a self-centered celebrity whore and acted like a total jackass. The recycled-restaurant materials outfit was the only one that showed any interest and creativity.

Shame on you, Santino. Grow up and get a real job.


I was kind of hoping you didn't post about Santino at all, what with his desperate need for attention. Love the timing of the post, but you know we will all read be reading!!!


I'll never forget how in the second season he made fun of the "older designers" and how he felt that they had no right to be there. How they should have figured it out by now.

How old is Santino now? He's got to be at least 35, right? I think that's about the age bracket he was making fun of. Funny thing, that age always seems to creep up on you, non?

Yeah, I peeked on his Twitter. Too bad Tim Gunn is a respected member of his industry while Santino remains a realty gadfly. Ah well, for all his posturing, he's the one who has to wake up in the morning and look at himself in the mirror. Meh.


Er, that would be reality. He's not trying to sell property. I wish there was an edit option.


I definitely have to concur with the other folks who are protesting the casual link that was made between Santino and the Monkees. While some of the boys' silly onstage antics may be a bit anachronistic, at least they are true pop culture icons who had some well-earned accomplishments and still have legions of fans clamoring for them 40+ years after the height of their fame. Santino's an obnoxious attention-whore who is unfortunately squandering what talent and PR/DR fan goodwill he has.


Sandra, if you are using your Google account name (if so, your name appears in blue), there will be a little trash can at the end of the post for a while visible only to you. Click it and your post disappears. Then you can re-write it.
It's an all-or-nothing solution, but at least it's something.


I liked the same 2 that Tlo did - the 2 with the black sequin fabric.

BUt Santino's behaviour in the sewing room made Jeffrey look reasonable; I never wanted to have to side with ALP.

I had posted the first night this awful jumpsuit reminded me of the monstrosity he made Kara wear. WHY, WHY would THAT be a look you'd repeat?


What a pathetic, talentless hack.

Please look at the first two pictures of Santino's first outfit. Look at the inside seam on the model's right leg...yes the one that is apparently coming unstitched.

Santino is an ASS. He is a waste of space.

And he is a really BORING designer. The fringe on the back of that first outfit would look cheap on a High School drama class costume. It looks like something for the talent show at the community center.

I think you are being FAR too kind to him.

Santino ? Your 15 minutes were up long ago.


TLo, you're working way too hard for Labor Day. Go to your union and file a grievance!

Goodbye, Santino!!


This is a phenomenal "oh snap" posting if there ever was one. Well done.


Anybody besides me think that Santino has had a LOT of work done on his face? I recall in S2 that his skin was quite pockmarked and his eyes looked older, somehow. Now his skin is smooth, his eyes aren't as hooded as before. Not that it makes any difference, and it certainly didn't raise his talent level any. Except the restaurant dress, it all looked cheap and tacky.


Oh TLo! You said it!

And soooo much more articulate than I!


"LOVE: 'Wouldn't that make him Jan Brady?'
Who, then, is Marsha Marsha Marsha?"

Anyone who is between Santino and the camera!


I've always reallly liked Santino, on his season and since. Next to Kayne he was my all time favorite PR designer, both in personality and designs. But I was very disappointed in his looks during the all star challenge. such a shame because we all know santino can do better and he could have EASILY taken the whole competition and really shown what he's been up to for the past few years if he would ve only taken the competition little more seriously.


Were you really at a Monkees reunion? I love those guys! I would pay to see them today.

(They've all remained busy and creative. Michael Nesmith is writing books ("The America Gene") and hosting cool online events at the Videoranch, Peter is battling a rare cancer and has the "Hope On" Project to help find a cure. He also plays with his current band, Shoe Suede Blues. Peter and Mike are both are active on Facebook. Micky and Davy are still out there performing too.)


The restaurant piece is striking, very D&G and very in right now. He lost me everywhere else.


Definitely one of the bottom 3, in my opinion. I also agree with DVF, it's a little vulgar, bad choice of fabrics.


bitchybitchybitchy

A more appropriate comparison would be a Kardashian reunion.

--GothamTomato

Oh, snap! Gotham tomato!


it was obvious to me that Santino was just trying to act like an ass on purpose. I mean, he was totally fucking with our perception of him. he probably knew he was going to get edited as the jerk and just decided to cheese it up. I do agree though that he went overboard with it and ended up just looking cheesy. I've met him in person, and I was surprised at how charming and warm he was -- I think this is an act. And we don't know why he chose to do what he did --- so it's hard for me to really judge him. It was one moment in time -- and one should never judge someone by what they do in one moment when in another moment they may do something else.


to be clear I think his performance on the show was an act - not his warmth when I met him


I recently rewatched some of the season 2 episodes and I actually liked Santino in them. Oh, he was over the top at times, but you can also see moments where he really was worried about his work. But here, he was just playing for the cameras and not playing designer. It made me wonder just how much he charges for his appearances. Sigh.

Marie


I really liked some of the clothes Santino made in S2 and thought his finale collection had real potnetial. However, he has appeared to have steered his career towards 'celebrity' rather than fashion or design. He has developed a reality TV persona that he uses to get more media time. It's a shame because I think he is talented regarding fashion. He is known more for being an asshat than a designer and that seems like a waste. It would have been interesting to see what he could have done in All0Stars and given that a few of his looks were terrific, imagine what he could have done if concentrating on design rather than mugging for the camera.


I LOVE you guys! I almost always agree with everything you say and I love the way that you say it. This time though, I have to disagree. Don't we all know that this show is edited to show the maximum douche-ness of the people they want us to believe are douches? Santino is great. He is hilariously funny and though his personality may be over the top for some people, he at least has some personality. I was more digusted by Uli and her bitch-tude. That's been forgiven because she was just edited that way, no? Lighten up on Santino. He is the type of person that makes reality shows fun to watch.


I like The great Santino.


The restaurant dress is cute.


"It was like watching The Monkees reunite for a world tour in 1989."

No. It was more like watching Pauly Shore in "Bio-Dome."


It drives me crazy when reality show contestants retreat into "The judges don't get me" or "American is not ready for my..." (fashion, food, interior design, whatever the hell...)

It's always a Bad Sign!!!

So happy to see your faboo response to this line from Santino. Someone needed to call bullshit on that nonsense!

Made my morning...


If there's one thing an attention whore hates, it's his name spelled or pronounced incorrectly. So, I would just like to say: SARDINO'S behavior was embarrassing to watch and let's put a fork in him because he is done.


Ginger Grant indeed! I love you boys . . .


Joycian references? Ok, this blog officially makes us all smarter now.

I almost hate to chime in on Santino personally cause what is there left to say except, yeah I missed the old Santino. The only look I really was ok with was the restaurant look. The two shiny materials made his models look bloated and lumpy. Which means this flatters no woman on the planet. Quite a niche he's carved for himself. I really was a fan of his sometime despite his hit or extreme miss results. This made me genuinely sad.

I assumed he was still working as a designer in some capacity in LA. No?


I met Santino once at an event (I blogged about it here: http://www.drunkenhousewife.com/2007/08/our-night-of-fashion-and-gaiety-bad.html), and he was lovely. He talked to my young, fashion-loving daughter without being condescending or patronizing, and he came off in person as ebullient, funny, and telling-it-like-it-is. (Meanwhile at the same event, Jeffrey Sebelia came off as unpleasant and snobby).

I loved the restaurant dress, but I was disappointed in the jumpsuit and the long, silver dress. I definitely expect more details and intricacy from Santino. Maybe he wanted to show that he'd evolved and was now editing himself? That's my best guess for why he turned out the rather basic designs he did. I think all the designers were desperate to show how much they'd learned and evolved post-show, which would stroke the judges' and producers' egos by demonstrating how much the judges taught the designers on the show.


Oh, snap!

Agree, agree, agree, TLo. He can only pull so much mileage out of Tim Gunn imitations. That vehicle is out of gas.

BookieBookie


HaHa!! Santino was all atwitter on his twitter!! Glad you called him out on his behavior - he was like a 5 year old on speed.


Speaking of words of wisdom from The Santino:

@tomandlorenzo
"Santino showed interview w/ Laura to Jeffrey:" I HATE ALTHOUGH WE'VE NEVER MET & SHE THINKS SHE KNOWS ME- BAD MOVE ON HER"
2:48 PM Aug 21st from web in reply to tomandlorenzo

@tomandlorenzo
"PS- U Don't Get It & Never Will. Your Opinions Mean Nothing-Make sure you say "hello" in-person. CAN'T WAIT! Big Smooch!"
1:15 PM Aug 21st from web


@tomandlorenzo
"If I'm Lame, You're PARAPLEGIC! You2& the desperate lot that U show favoritism to-Can BURN- I had a blast & will do it again!"
1:11 PM Aug 21st from web in reply to tomandlorenzo


Santino's next reality show should be "Toddlers and Tiaras". He'd fit right in with the little divas.


Agree 112% with your assessment of his looks.


At its best (go ahead and laugh at me) PR for me is about what makes us human.

I'm a 44 y.o. white female lawyer. I have no idea what it's like to grow up mixed race, or gay, or poor, or what it's like to try to survive in a really cutthroat, scary world like fashion design (or any artistic field) where you're a big success if your work so much as pays your rent. I have a really safe, educated, middle class life with clearly defined rules.

Through PR I've gotten to know and care about all sorts of people whose lives are totally different from mine, and whom I'd never have met (and certainly would never have gotten to know so well) outside the show.

The show at its best is about how people's characters emerge under stress. Santino demonstrated that qualities like aggression or arrogance often mask insecurity.

I also thought Santino paid way too high a price for his exuberance. Tom & Lorenzo, haven't you noticed that a "pack mentality" often emerges on the show and everyone will gang up on one competitor, like the much-maligned Kenley or Wendy pepper -- even though they've really done nothing to warrant the punishment?

Ultimately, I like Santino -- who, while volatile, is also capable of being honest, and vulnerable, and who takes risks as a designer -- much more than Jeffrey Sebelia (who I think *did* have other people sew the garments he showed at Fashion Week but whose far more serious crime was his general nastiness to his competitors, and whose behavior on the show demonstrated that he hasn't made much progress in recovery: Where was his "attitude of gratitude"?).

I also liked Santino way, way more than smug, chilly Laura Bennett (whose incessant smirk in my opinion was like nails on a chalkboard in such a boring designer; she obviously got as far as she did, despite her lack of creative vision, only by virtue of her superior skill as a seamstress, which counts for nothing once she's off the show and having other people execute her designs).

Yet Jeffrey and Laura were never punished by anyone. They were BOTH really mean to Angela, entirely unprovoked, yet neither of them ever became the focus of the kind of hate-fest that was unleashed on Kenley, Wendy, or Santino.

-victoria


I loved Santino on Ru Paul's Drag Race. He was funny, smart, nice with a bit of an edge. If that's the real Santino, give that man a microphone and a show.

If the Santino who showed up for the All-Star was the real Santino, no thank you.


@Anonymous 9/8/09 5:28 PM
You missed a couple. :)

# Seriously-Tim Gunn Is Ready 4 Assisted-Living! Fuck U Old Man! http://bit.ly/7DGUs
9:45 AM Aug 20th from web



# In Other News-Tim Gunn's Guide To Style Will Not Be Returning... Hmmm...
9:45 AM Aug 20th from web


# @tomandlorenzo ARE TIRED- Thought You Would've Done Better! Enjoy your sad, ugly, bitter, never-were lives- Your Blog Is Like A Small Town.about
6 hours ago from web in reply to tomandlorenzo(roughly 6:30 PM, 09/08/2009)


He seems upset. laugh-out-fucking-loud


From Santino's Twitter:

"@tomandlorenzo ARE TIRED- Thought You Would've Done Better! Enjoy your sad, ugly, bitter, never-were lives- Your Blog Is Like A Small Town."


What an idiot. Go away, Santino. This "town" doesn't need you.


Oops, sorry, anonymous, I didn't see your post.


Anonymous
9/9/09 3:27 AM @Anonymous 9/8/09 5:28 PM
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# @tomandlorenzo ARE TIRED- Thought You Would've Done Better! Enjoy your sad, ugly, bitter, never-were lives- Your Blog Is Like A Small Town.about
6 hours ago from web in reply to tomandlorenzo(roughly 6:30 PM, 09/08/2009)

He seems upset. laugh-out-fucking-loud


Thanks, Anon 3:27! Laugh out the fuck LOUD, indeed!

Awww, sounds wyke Santino needs a weedy bitty hug!


Anonymous
9/8/09 7:27 PM
Yet Jeffrey and Laura were never punished by anyone. They were BOTH really mean to Angela, entirely unprovoked, yet neither of them ever became the focus of the kind of hate-fest that was unleashed on Kenley, Wendy, or Santino.

-victoria


Sort of true. There were lots of folks here to hated the hell out of Jeffrey, myself included.

But like you, I never got the Laura love. She talks down to and looks down on everyone she comes in contact with, and god help you if you're poor.

Santino is polarizing, but it is sort of amusing seeing his insecurities come into play as to why the way he is. Even he had the guts to admit to it.

Yeah, some of the things he says makes me want to hurl a wine glass at the tv, but then I remember its REALITY tv, and that Santino is in "character."

BTW, I've heard alot of people who met him in real life and found him to be a really nice guy.


I also liked Santino way, way more than smug, chilly Laura Bennett (whose incessant smirk in my opinion was like nails on a chalkboard in such a boring designer; she obviously got as far as she did, despite her lack of creative vision, only by virtue of her superior skill as a seamstress, which counts for nothing once she's off the show and having other people execute her designs).

Yet Jeffrey and Laura were never punished by anyone. They were BOTH really mean to Angela, entirely unprovoked, yet neither of them ever became the focus of the kind of hate-fest that was unleashed on Kenley, Wendy, or Santino.


People always seem to trot this out whenever their favorite designer gets dissed. It's simply not true. Check any of the Laura posts on this blog. The comments section is filled with people criticizing her every time.



But like you, I never got the Laura love. She talks down to and looks down on everyone she comes in contact with, and god help you if you're poor.


When has she ever been shown to be nasty to poor people?

Yeah, some of the things he says makes me want to hurl a wine glass at the tv, but then I remember its REALITY tv, and that Santino is in "character."

And yet you think you have some insight into Laura's true character.


Anonymous said...
And yet you think you have some insight into Laura's true character.

9/9/09 10:55 AM


Look dude, your mom's not a nice lady!



Look dude, your mom's not a nice lady!


Don't you have some twittering to do, Santino?


Anonymous said...

Look dude, your mom's not a nice lady!

Don't you have some twittering to do, Santino?

9/9/09 11:07 AM


I'll wait till your mom sobers up to ask if its okay.


Meee-OW! I don't know what Santino said in his twitters about you guys, but it must have been a bad scene - I sense some serious animosity here!


Sardino-get yourself some professional help. Your insecurities are getting the best of you.


Hell with the Twitter shit, I wanna see a TLo vs. Santino/Vincent Cagematch with Anne Slowey as guest referee

Alex! will be making pic by pic commentary

and the losers of the match will have to trade of on wearing Blayne's catepillar crotch wicker jumpsuit for a year, unwashed.


The restaurant dress looks like a less well-executed version of this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_t4yocv9pcjw/R2F9rsAd6SI/AAAAAAAAL88/rnIgYRWwUNw/s1600-h/kate_instyle1.jpg

-W


Santino is the boy whistling in the dark to keep his fears at bay.


Is this show still on ?


Everyone'sACaptainKirk

Oh for GAWD'S SAKE! Doesn't anyone here have anything better to do than to dogpile the guy?

I think he's hilarious. I've heard from friends who have met him that he's a genuinely nice and, better yet, compassionate and kind guy. And you can't deny that some of his work is stunning.

I only watched the All Stars show to see Santino. Over-the-top or not, he makes me laugh my ass off and is the only personality on that show who isn't a total bore.


He needed Andre as his, er, straight man to even hope to recapture the glory of his Season 2 shennanigans. Sartorially speaking, Santino was never a great designer - some good instincts but sloppy execution and often way over the top, and when "tasteful" rather pedestrian and boring. That said, it's easy to see the sensitive little boy underneith the bravado, so that's always kept him from being an a--hole in my view. He's just a sad clown...





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