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Project Runway's Most Dramatic Moments, S4/5

Poodles, before we look to the future of Season 6, one last, loving look back.

You might be looking at the title of this post and asking "S4/5? What's THAT all about?" Well, it's about the fact that unfortunately, Seasons 4 and 5, while they had their moments, were, in our opinion, deadly DULL. There was a ton of talent to be had, but the personalities were somewhat lacking. We tend to think this is because the participants had become all too aware of the cameras and most of them were too self-aware to really let it all hang out. As such, there were very few dramatic moments on par with previous seasons. In fact, there was only one per season.

1) MRSA-GATE
In the midst of a "real woman" challenge that left our comments section in flaming ruins for the week (nothing like utilizing a bunch of real women who've lost weight to push the emotional buttons of the viewers), Jack Mackenroth, that Chelsea Muscle Mary who had already endeared himself to the viewers, found himself in the midst of a health crisis.

To be more specific, he had a MRSA infection and this, coupled with the fact that he had a compromised immune system because he's HIV positive, caused a bit of a concern both on his part and on the part of the producers.

As Jack struggled with the decision as to whether he should stay or go, his fellow designers, to their credit, showed great concern and affection for him. There was one, however, that got a mighty strange edit out of it:

Victorya, who for some reason, looked almost pissed off about the whole thing (granted, she always looks like that). It turns out (although you never saw this on the episode), she was FURIOUS with the producers for not offering to shut down production until Jack could get medical attention and get back on his feet. That's certainly admirable, but highly impractical. It would have been nice to give Jack the chance, but at that point they had no idea how long it would take for him to recover, and each day that the production delayed would have cost the producers tens of thousands of dollars. It's harsh, but that's the reality of it.

In what was probably the most tearful scene in the history of the show, Jack said goodbye to his fellow designers. It wasn't the kind of delicious drama that results from egos clashing, but it was the only time the show actually made us cry.

In the end, Jack made the decision to put his health and well-being before his ambition and opted to leave the show and seek medical attention. As we recall, he was fully recovered within a week, but unfortunately, the show had moved on by that point and replaced him with the recently auf'd Chris March. We still think Jack should have tried out for the next season but he appears to have moved on since then.

2)KENLEY-GATE

There were so many reasons to dislike the cat-thrower from Season 5 and so many scenes that could have gone here, but nothing sums it up like the moment it all came to a head with the judges in the final pre-Bryant Park episode, "Nature Calls."

There is, in our humble opinion, a much funnier version of the following exchange here, but for the record, this is what was actually said:

"I wanted to stay away from pretty."

"The petals, they don't look very elegant either."

"I wasn't going for elegance, Heidi."


"You get very defensive, Kenley."

"It is a little bit annoying the attitude, no?"


"Like right now, what you're doing right now."

"What??"



This all came after an entire season of Kenley acting badly on the runway, from getting overly defensive with the judges to laughing openly at her fellow designers. At this point, both the judges and the remaining designers had had it with her. We guess it's to the judges' credit that they were able to ignore the obvious disrespect and wave her on through to the finals, but we strongly suspect there was at least a little input on the part of the producers, who did everything they could to push and edit this unpolished girl to the forefront to play the part of the villain. She wasn't really villainous; she was just immature and obnoxious.


[Screencaps: Projectrungay.blogspot.com]



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77 comments:

I can't believe you guys didn't mention Santino's imitations of Tim! Ok, maybe that's not drama, strictly speaking, but that's one of the most memorable moments from PR (IMHO).


on mean girl drama, i thought you would be refering to the "who would you take with you to bp" question and ms. jerell "we'll get to you in a moment" reply...


God, Cat-Thrower was so annoying. I don't know how the judges put up with her.
I felt really bad for Jack. That really sucked for him. I wish he'd try again.


Yes, seasons 4 and 5 lacked drama. BUT, you make it worth revisiting with your wonderful insight. And thanks for the link back to the "original" Kenley-gate post. SO FUCKING FUNNY! You are the best. Thanks for the laughs.


LOL "the cat-thrower from Season 5."

Love you guys, thank you so much for everything you do.


There was actually one other greatly dramatic moment from an overall tempered s.4: "The Case of Cocky Christian vs. Meannie Maddie - "Who The Fuck's Prom Dress is This, and why the Fuck Did VictorYA Win? (aka Kevin got screwedd)'"

I've wasted more time, words and energy on Mean Girl then I care to anymore.


Kenley... such a horrible girl.


TLo said:
"There is, in our humble opinion, a much funnier version of the following exchange here..."

I just went back and read that post from 10/03/08 and began laughing so hard the tears came spilling out....

Thanks for the recaps and the screencaps...I can't wait for Thursday night!


And maybe I'm totally ignorant about this, but Jack must be in incredibly great shape (and or/have incredible health insurance) to be HIV positive 20+ years, and still going strong.

My hat's off to him! Would love to see him and Kevin launch their reality show.


" Anonymous said...

And maybe I'm totally ignorant about this, but Jack must be in incredibly great shape (and or/have incredible health insurance) to be HIV positive 20+ years, and still going strong."

It's pretty common.


Kenley, oh Kenley, how I hated her.


i was watching with delicious horror as Kenley out-Kenleyed herself in front of the judges without a bit of shame.

i was (and am) so appalled at her rudeness that i started hyperventiliating.

her attitude ruined the nice personal style she had created for herself- the baby Bettie Page look.


we're having company on Thursday- but my mother-in-law will TiVo for me. (whew!)


TUGBOAT!

BookieBookie


Where's the drama regarding Hedda Lettuce?


I thought the business between Suede and Hedda Lettuce was pretty good drama.


Kenley's voice drove me around the bend.

Oh no, I can still conjure it, gah!


another laura

Bitches, you had me in tears again when I went to the link back to your original post. Thanks a million from a loyal minion.


Anonymous said...TUGBOAT!
BookieBookie

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Ah, Tugboat...


These days meds and research have greatly improved the quality of life for people with HIV+. I use to room with a guy who lived with it for almost 25 yrs. When he died it was technically not due to an AIDs-related illness.

However Jack is not just a pretty muscleboy. I believe he's competed in 3 of the last 4 Gay Games. While most of the people would not qualify for the Olympics, the people who medal are pretty good athletes and Jack has medaled in swimming events.

Kenley did turn into 1 giant ball of drama. She may only qualify as a single story but it spanned an arc of several episodes...lol

Frank


It's a shame that the juciest drama in S4 was going on behind the scenes...we didn't get to see any of it, and we only heard snippets after the fact.
VictorYa! What a hag.

Jack was never a fave of mine, but I did feel bad for him.

Kenley - peh. At the time, I was FURIOUS with her, now I'm just glad she's off my tv.
And kinda hoping that one day she'll get lippy with the wrong person and get slapped. Not beaten -- just a good, healthy, stinging, loud slap.


i just read an interview with jack where they asked him if he'd do the show again and he said he would but no one asked him yet, i think it was on out.com


TUGBOAT!

Your version of that little incident was far funnier, I just re-read it and it's still just as funny now as it was then. Can't wait to see your screencaps of La Nina on the regular again!


When you do think about it, the last two seasons didn't even have a symbolic catchphrase.

C'mon, you can talk about "fierce" and "girliscious" all you like, but how in the world does that compare to "cry and cut" or "It's a motherfuckin' walkoff!"?

Not even in the same category.


Yep, these two seasons were clunkers. I cried too when Jack left..seemed like such a talented contender. Kenley was irritatingly non self-aware. Hope S6 gives us a nice mix of personality and design.


Oh, sweet Jack! I was so sad to see him go, but he had to take care of himself. I cried too.
It's true what you said; there's no way they could have stopped production. The show must go on.
So glad his recovery was quick. Love him.


Mrs. P
8/18/09 1:28 PM I thought the business between Suede and Hedda Lettuce was pretty good drama.
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As delicious as that was, both parties held back and were quite civil while the cameras were rolling. It was only afterward that Hedda really erupted.


Like many, I thought Jack's exit was a shame - but that he didn't bother to try to return says something about the experience of being on PR, I suspect.

Without excusing her anti-social ways, I did and do feel sad about Kenley. She had no idea that her protective shell of abrasive behavior was just feeding, if not creating, the inexplicable (to her) nagativity of others. Or that criticism (from others) can be constructive, not malicious and "unfair." She was her own worst enemy (not that most of us don't find ourselves there at times.)


"There is, in our humble opinion, a much funnier version of the following exchange here"

Oh my god. Not only is your version of the runway exchange perfection, but the one photo of Michael Kors by himself made me burst out laughing. That facial expression is awesome-- it looks like he's watching a cat shit on his sandwich!


HellsKitchenDude

Hahahahahaha. Your version is hilarious, boys. I can't wait for season 6!!!


Haha, that first recap was awesome! I LOL'ed all over again.

Kenley, what a trainwreck! I love Heidi's face in that last screencap there. She looks like it's all she can do to not march up there on the runway and smack the attitude right outta that bitch.


Kenley Penley. That's always going to be her name in my mind.
Personally my favorite moment of S4 was during the final judging when Christian finally dropped his hot tranny mess attitude and showed some vulnerability for the first time. His ego had made me not want him to win the whole way through, and then at the end he showed how much he really wanted it and I actually believed him.
And please keep the screencaps coming!


A couple of months before the Jack incident aired, I got a MRSA in my nose, and I scared the living crap out of my family and friends because my face had blown up in that "Planet of the Apes mask" way. When we were watching the show, Jack's face looked EXACTLY the same, and everybody who was watching with me whipped their heads around and said, "That's just what you looked like!" Um...thanks.

Even though Kenley was the chosen villain of S5, I thought the Teri/Keith argument was the biggest bit of drama. Two people who were shown to be fairly low-key suddenly were at each others' throats, resulting in the elimination (an incredibly bullshit elimination) of one contestant.


Still think it was kinda pissy to drop Jerrell when he won the last official challenge, but the judges and producers wanted Kenley in for drama...oh well.


Patrick said...
Even though Kenley was the chosen villain of S5, I thought the Teri/Keith argument was the biggest bit of drama. Two people who were shown to be fairly low-key suddenly were at each others' throats, resulting in the elimination (an incredibly bullshit elimination) of one contestant.

8/18/09 2:33 PM


Oy vey, Patrick! Now THAT was some drama right there! Good Call!


No, I had to go back and read your post for the episode where Kenley made the hip hop suit for Judy Noodles. Your screencaps with LL Cool J made me laugh until I cried. . . again. Still one of the funniest things I have ever read in my life. Y'all are the best.


I CAN'T WAIT FOR THURSDAY NIGHT! Even better, Friday morning when we all get to read TLo's hilarious comments!

Sorry for the shouting but I'm just beside myself with anticipation.

May season six provide us with more talent and at least as much bizzare behaviour as season five. If not from the contestants, at least from TLo's readers.


I also think the Kenley hip-hop design was a classic moment. That thing was a hot mess and she stood there and blamed Leanne for not knowing how to walk in it. I can still hear her whiny nasal voice "I wanted it to be fashion-FORWARD!" Lord.

Oh, and the hideous freaky bangs they put on Leanne, ugh! Leanne was a pretty good sport to be seen on TV like that!


Immature and obnoxious -- a very kind take on Kenley's behavior. Still it's also apt. Though I suspect it'll take another decade for her to realize it, she is not as smart or fully evolved as she likes to believe.


bitchybitchybitchy

another laura said...
Bitches, you had me in tears again when I went to the link back to your original post. Thanks a million from a loyal minion.

8/18/09 1:31 PM

Thanks a million from another loyal minion-I had forgotten how absolutely priceless your screencaps for that were!


Bwaaaaahahaha! I cannot WAIT for new Nina / Heidi / Duchess screencaps. Cannot wait.


You know, you guys are the Henri Cartier-Bresson of screen caps: Every one a decisive moment.

Don't know how you grab them the way you do, but it obviously take ALOT of time and ability. Kudos!

--GothamTomato


Oh, man. Your original post of that Heidi/Kenley/Nina showdown is utter perfection. I cannot WAIT for some new Nina screencaps!


Instead of putting up with that "You're getting defensive" nonsense, Kenley should have just told them, hey, you gave me your opinion, I told you what I think of it, feel free to move on.


I still love Kenley, despite her bad attitude and feline-flinging tendencies.


But, you know, remembering who she was against in the finals (namely Jerrell) I would either disagree with or disregard the producers' manipulation. I would have been furious if his collection was a contender for the win, so, bad attitude aside, she did a better job than Jerrell, and isn't that all that matters?


I think being an obnoxious, immature person with a mean-girl streak (a streak a mile wide, btw) is actually worse than being a true Villain. Part of what makes a good villain is that there is SOMETHING there: real talent, maybe, or real intelligence and cunning. Depth of personality in some way. Kenley was just...nasty. A million sharp twisted-pinches, rather than one big chop of the guillotine.

As for the Prom Dress episode, I concur completely that once Christian revealed some vulnerability, and genuine personality, he became much, much more likable. He had a moment curled up on the floor under his worktable, and another one-liner in the apartment on judgment (i mean judging) day that just turned him from a caricature into a real human who I could cheer for.


I think the moment that Kenley learned that Tim was going to judge the final collections was pretty "dramatic" (i.e., hilarious).

It seems like poor Kenley never stopped acting like a 14-year-old girl being reprimanded by her mom. Did she ever go to design school? Some of the criticism there is brutal and would have cured her quickly.

The young lady has talent. I wouldn't have objected that much to her (really, she wasn't much worse than Christian most of the time), except the laughing at her competitors. Especially that one guy who she was supposed to be "friends" with.

Remember when she said that growing up on a tugboat caused her lack of social skills? Like she was raised by wolves or something. Spoiled brat is more like it.


Jack's departure was very sad. I'm not sure that they handled it as well as they could have.
I understand why he wouldn't want to put himself through all that again.

Kenley: The screen caps are very funny. I liked her, though. I don't really get the "mean girl" stuff.


Before Season 4 began Tim said that there was a challenge where everyone KNEW who the loser would be and he was flabbergasted because not only did that design not lose, but it won?

Did we ever find out which challenge Tim was referring to?


Can I just say that reading these 'dramatic moments' posts have just reminded me how TERRIBLE the fashion show was. There was nothing memorable that came out of it .... Seriously, cannot wait until Thursday for the real fashion show to start!


another laura

a, I thought that was Ricky's win in the Levi's challenge.


Kenley Collins

I'm perfect, in every which way.
And sorry - don't care what you say.
My florals and rope
Were so fucking dope -
I laugh at Leanne every day.

For what is a winner without
A certain extérieur of clout
And talent and poise?
For no one enjoys
A beanpole librarian trout.


Teri needs to make the list if only for the best comment ever: "I don't know what he's packing, balls or vajayjay, but he needs to work that out, 'cause I ain't got no babies, ain't nobody sucking on my titties, so please: man up." This about Suede. Classic.


a said: "Before Season 4 began Tim said that there was a challenge where everyone KNEW who the loser would be and he was flabbergasted because not only did that design not lose, but it won?

Did we ever find out which challenge Tim was referring to?"

I always thought it was Suede's frozen pizza dress. To me, this was the worst win ever.


Kenley Collins said...

I'm perfect, in every which way.
And sorry - don't care what you say.
My florals and rope
Were so fucking dope -
I laugh at Leanne every day.

For what is a winner without
A certain extérieur of clout
And talent and poise?
For no one enjoys
A beanpole librarian trout.




YAY!!! Kenley Collins is back, Patsy is back, it's party time again at TLo!


I don't know. I always that the most deliciously glorious drama from season 4 was the prom challenge with Christian and his...erhm...difficult client. Also the bulshittiest aufing ever!


THANKS TLo for linking back to your prior write-up - hil-fucking-arious!


I missed the season that had MRSA gate on it and I wished I had seen that. I suffer from the same damn thing and let me tell ya honeys; it ain't no picnic!!!


Love the screencaps! Hilarious!!


""Before Season 4 began Tim said that there was a challenge where everyone KNEW who the loser would be and he was flabbergasted because not only did that design not lose, but it won?

Did we ever find out which challenge Tim was referring to?"

I always thought it was Suede's frozen pizza dress. To me, this was the worst win ever."

Suede was in season 5. If Tim was referring to a challenge in season 4, I think it was Ricky's winning Levi's dress...=/


I think there were a few more moments than metnioned. What about Mad Hatter/Cry Baby Ricky? Maybe more pathetic than dramatic, but when the rest of the designers started snubbing him after Kit's elimination? Tense. Or Rami being nasty to Sweet Pea because he felt she wasn't good enough to be teamed with him, then SP's outfit was the only thing that kept him from being aufed. Wasn't there some tense scene(s) between Victor-yuk and Tim? And in S6 didn't Terri sort of go a bit psycho at one point? Sure, these don't compare to shoegate or bookgate, but for their respective seasons, they were dramatic.


I felt sorry for Jack too. It was a pitty he had to left, but always health is first than anything else.

Now, regarding the pet-lover the almost Kenley Penley, what a bitch!

I hated her since the first time I heard her speak on the show. Not only she was obnoxius, but she was annoying and mean. And she was "this" close to design orange dresses behind bars...

Thank God we don't get to see her on tv anymore.


I always loved Sweet P. She was a very very talented dress maker. I would love to work with her via commissioning a dress. You tell her want you want or show her pictures, she can make it, it would fit perfectly and most importantly she would be a delight to work with. The kind of gal from which you would commission a second or third dress that you can't afford just to get to work with her again and again.

TampaBay


I hated that Jack had to leave. I adore Chris March, but I wish that they could have brought Jack back at some point later in the season.

Kenley...immature and obnoxious...that is pretty much it.


I was thrilled when Chris March was brought back, but hated to see Jack leave. I thought he was very talented, might have won it all!


Criticizing the show for the lack of dramatic personality is exactly the sort of thing that leads the producers to push contestants with personality but little talent ahead in the competition, at the expense of talented but less televisual contestants.

I don't watch the show for the reality show drama -- I watch it because it's that rarity, a show about talent. A show about people making things. If I want to see run-of-the-mill reality shows featuring dog-eat-dog personalities, I would watch Big Brother. I would much rather see someone with a boring personality who designs clothes that make me sit up and take notice.


I disagree with your take on Kenley. She was no worse than any other big personality on the show. She was MUCH nicer than Jeffrey Sibelia, and LIGHTYEARS nicer than Santino Rice. She was warmer, and more appealing, than snotty, smug, nasty Laura Bennett (who told Angela she didn't DESERVE to be brought back --- as though it were Laura's decision to make!).

Think about it: the designers who've been treated the ost harshly are Kenley and Wendy Pepper, even though nothing they did was as ugly as a routine Santino or Jeffrey moment. (Remember Jeffrey yelling at Angela, "Youre responsible to fix it! You're responsible to fix it! You're responsible to fix it!")

Come on, guyrs. Men can be as ugly as they wanna be, without getting criticized for it, but any woman who stands up for herself is a b*tch in your book. -victoria


"Come on, guyrs. Men can be as ugly as they wanna be, without getting criticized for it, but any woman who stands up for herself is a b*tch in your book. -victoria"

Ugh. So damn tiresome. Not only does this ignore the amount of flack we gave Santino and Jeffrey in various posts; it ignores the many times we defended Laura and Wendy.

Worse than that, it ignores what we wrote in this very post:

"She wasn't really villainous; she was just immature and obnoxious."

Or in the original post on this incident which is linked in this post:

"The worst we could ever say about Kenley is that she has an obnoxious, immature, mean girl streak to her and she doesn't take criticism well at all. Annoying, sure. Villain status? Not when we put her up against the great schemers and trash talkers of previous seasons. She's just a moderately talented girl with an annoying personality who thinks a little higher of herself than is probably warranted."

If you want to be annoyed with us for not saying what you want to hear about your favorite contestant, have at it, but don't accuse of misogyny or sexism when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.


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So said on 8/19/09 1:24 PM...
If I want to see run-of-the-mill reality shows featuring dog-eat-dog personalities, I would watch Big Brother. I would much rather see someone with a boring personality who designs clothes that make me sit up and take notice.



Fully agree. Don't care about the VH1 trash who stuffs bimbos in suitcases.


I agree S4 and 5 were a bit of a snooze comparatively. I'd like to think Kenley was just immature and that creativity is personal, etc. but this whole experience doesn't seem to have matured her (at least from the interviews I've read. Nevermind her hurling pets at a boyfriend.)

I also would nominate Christian fighting with the high school student on the prom challenge. Which, come on the judges took her side but that kid was annoying.


I absolutely despised Kenely. She recently got arrested for throwing a cat on her boyfriend and i think that is hilarious!! and i really think christian created all kinds of drama he was so fabulous, i dont think there will ever be any designer as fierce as him!


Gonna have to agree with some other posters about Terri being the big drama on S5. She cracked me up and I was sorry to see her go.


Only Jack was to blame for his MRSA- he was immune-compromised, yet he chose to have elective surgery (a facelift) mere weeks before filming began.

Anyone who is living with HIV knows that doing something so stupid as that means you have to live with what happens... I have absolutely no pity for him.


There is no honor in throwing stones at someone from behind, Anonymous 12:43.





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