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Project Runway's Most Dramatic Moments, S2, Part 2

It's ZulemaFest '09, bitches! Little Lamb is beside himself!


3)CRY-AND-CUT-GATE


Long story short: It's the Banana Republic challenge and the designers are broken off into teams. The wildly different Zulema and Kara Janx struggle to make a garment that represents both their styles...

...and come up with a real shitbox of a dress.

One thing about this teamup: for all the ensuing drama, both designers were actually surprisingly self-aware about themselves and where the problems were coming from:

Kara: "I think with this challenge was more about corporation. Maybe us paired was just a bad pairing."

Zulema: "I'm actually a calm person under pressure. Kara was actually so hysterical I had to take over."

Highly accurate, because Kara was right; their styles just didn't blend. And Zulema was right...

...because Kara was completely overwhelmed by the pressure and came undone.

We've often said that almost every single designer, despite whatever complaints you heard about "It was the editing!" was well-represented on the show. But we've met Kara Janx and we know how well her career is going now, so we have to say, the Kara Janx you saw on your screens is not the real Kara Janx. The real Kara Janx is laser-focused and when you get to know her, hysterically funny and bitingly sarcastic like you have no idea.

Chalk it up to exhaustion and pressure, we guess. Whatever the cause, the outcome was that she completely fell apart and it was up to Zulema to put on her bitchpants and take the fuck over, uttering the line that has become legendary among PR fans:

"I don't care if you cry and cut, but you gotta cry and cut, you gotta cut at that rate. Don't stop and cry. "

Pure fucking poetry. Truly, there is a life lesson in there for all of us. We would like that stitched on a pillow or perhaps framed for hanging as a motivational poster. It's a hell of a lot catchier than that "grant me the serenity" dross they always make 12-steppers recite like a mantra.

We suspect the producers were trying to give her the bitch edit but at least in this instance, it wasn't deserved. By the end of the episode they'd produced a perfectly lovely (although not winning) design and managed to avoid the dreaded auf'ing.

Kara herself later admitted that she had absolutely no hard feelings toward Zulema, mostly because SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

Which provides the perfect segue into...

4) MOTHERFUCKING WALK-OFF-GATE

Once again, Zulema utters a line that causes a series of priceless reactions from her cohorts:


"I, today, am going to choose to change models, so I would like to have the models come out. I would like to have a walk off..."


"...between the following three models: Danyelle, Tarah and Shannon."

Dun-dun-DUN!!!!!

DRAMA!

Align Center(loving every minute of this)

("Is the camera on me? The camera's on me, right?")

"It's a motherfucking walk-off." (Which is probably also among the top lines ever uttered on the show)

Rewatching the episode Lorenzo, as is typical for him, screamed at the television. This time, though, it was a scream of joy: "I fucking love Zulema!!!!"

Lorenzo just loves take-no-shit people.

Once again, though, with the benefit of hindsight and 3 ensuing seasons, we look back on this and laugh at all the drama.

Don't get us wrong. We felt for Nick. He adored his model and Zulema had already demonstrated a tendency to treat her models like dogshit, so we can't blame him for his reaction. No, it was the reaction of all the other designers plus the clear effort on the part of the producers to paint this as some horrible backstabbing move that all seems so silly now in retrospect. Once the cherry was popped on that little taboo, designers in the seasons that followed traded up models left and right without anyone batting an eye about it.

Once again, Zulema was in the right (or at least, not in the wrong) and once again, she summed it up perfectly:

"I changed models because my model cannot walk, I can't be concerned with Nick. Do a good job, win next week, and take her back!"

TOO DAMN RIGHT.

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73 comments:

OMG, I love love this post!!!


("Is the camera on me? The camera's on me, right?")


ROFL.


Yeah, my sentiments totally changed about Shatangi. Say what you want, bitch was right.

The only person who really had a right to hold a grudge against her was Tarah, since she basically screwed her out of the competition.

Granted, me and Zulema could NEVER work together, without resulting bloodshed, but she wasn't nearly the "villan" of ALP, Santino or Mean Girl proportions.

BTW, seen her lately? She's actually REALLY pretty when put together.


Funny about cut and cry- Kara was cutting! Zulema was the one doing nothing in that moment.

More reasons why S2 was my fave! Zulema and Santino for "villians"?? Pure Gold.

Andrae and his face of plastic? More Gold.

And let's not forget the Lupe!-ness of it all!


Yeah, I love Zulema too. She had to take over when Kara fell apart, and she did a pretty good job of it.
I don't blame her for taking Nick's model when she got the chance, either. But I DO NOT think that move was a suprise to the producers, if you know what I mean.


Glad to hear Kara is doing well. I think that under the time pressure and all the crazy that this contest involves, it's okay to have a genuine meltdown. And she did pull it together enough to "cry and cut".

I loved Zulema and thought she got a bad rep. She was perfectly within her rights to do what she did. She was in no way harsh with Kara, and she had the right to pick another model. I loved the motherfucking walk-off!" It was genius!

Does anyone know how Zulema's career going now?


DAMN, wish I'd seen this season. Oh, the things I have missed.....sniff, sniff......


I love these posts!

I remember at the time being thoroughly pissed at Zulema when she switched Rachel for Tarah, but even then I had to grudgingly admit that what she did was within the rules.

I was actually more pissed at Sasha Cohen for picking Zulema's skating outfit and giving Zulema the opportunity to swap.


bitchybitchybitchy

"You gotta cry and cut"

"It's a motherfucking walkoff"

Along with Andrae's melt-down, the Santino/Nina dustup, these lines are more proof that Season 2 of PR produced great bitchery and drama.

I think it's time to throw the husband and cat out of the house, break out the wine and have a marathon viewing of PR2!


HAHA YES!! I love Zulema. my other favorite moment is when she tells Marla she doesn't believe in sharing the closet...hahaha!!


mll said...
DAMN, wish I'd seen this season. Oh, the things I have missed.....sniff, sniff......

8/13/09 12:37 PM

Get thee to wherever you can rent PR Season 2 and do so-you will not be disappointed!


mll said...
DAMN, wish I'd seen this season. Oh, the things I have missed.....sniff, sniff......


I don't know which season they are showing, but there is supposed to be a PR marathon tomorrow on Bravo.


if memory serves, there was a certain amount of irony in her challenge because Zulema went home in the next challenge, for that really badly made orange copy of an African woman's outfit. Model could not help that hot mess.

My fave line from PR is actually a Tim line, to Wendy in the post office challenge: "Don't defend that shoe to me!" It wasn't high drama but it was an awesome moment.


And damnit, Kara and Shetangi deserved that damn win b/c the dress was fuckin' GORGEOUS! (If I remember, so was Chloe and Emmett's)

But at this time, the judges were so overwhelmed with DanielV-love, nobody really stood a chance.


"Anonymous said...

And damnit, Kara and Shetangi deserved that damn win b/c the dress was fuckin' GORGEOUS! (If I remember, so was Chloe and Emmett's)

But at this time, the judges were so overwhelmed with DanielV-love, nobody really stood a chance."


It was a beautiful dress, much better than what Andrae and Daniel Vosovic produced.


LOVE IT!! Zulema rocked season 2!!


You. Guys. RULE. I was laughing out loud at my computer. I had forgotten about the MOTHEREFFING WALKOFF. That had to be one of my fav PR moments EVER. And to have little, sweet Daniel say it. Oh dear lord. Thanks for reminding me, again, how awesome PR is. And I can't wait for the 20th!!!!!!


So which came first, exaggerated drama and faces in reaction to the the Project Runway or the Zoolander walkoff?


Here are two more reasons why Season 2 was the BEST. The walkoff moment was amazing. And yes, people have changed designers since that moment, but have they ever called for a walkoff? If they have, I can't remember it.


The Zoolander walkoff happened first. But it doesn't make the comment any less awesome.


Zulema Griffin has a website, is on Twitter (ZulemaOnline) and on Facebook.

Her site has her current collection, which I do not find very compelling.

She appears to be showing her stuff frequently and her movie career seems to be continuing apace, as well.

Interestingly enough, her bio says nothing about Project Runway-- only has her modeling clients and movies listed.


Can't wait for the model spin-off show from PR Season 6 and future TLo "delightful" recaps of each episode.

TampaBay


Sadly I was never a fan of Zulema as a PR contestant and still not. She was a great source for entertainment drama but for me it was an issue of style.

By all means she was within her rights but I always found how she came across as rather off-putting. In retrospect I think this was at least partly due to her desire not to be edited into a certain character type. By her own admission she segregated herself as much as possible from the cameras.

Anyway yes it was understandable the model switch since Rachel was not 1 of the better models. Not horrible but not nearly as good as Tarah, Rebecca or Grace. But to me the way she went about was annoyng and kind of cold-blooded. And no. no one else has ever requested a walk-off. I agreed with Nick that move was more for show and likely Nick's model was her primary target.

In the long run it ended up screwing both herself and Nick. It was well known that Nick uses his models as a source of inspiration. It's kind of a sad irony Nick lost his muse right before the Inpsiration Challenge. And it's also ironic that Rachel ended up modeling Danviel V's Collection at bryant Park and doing a good job.

I just think she could have handled it more thoughtfully. And while I dont think she was outrightly shiesty, that whole business Tim recounted about the muslin does not exactly help endear me to her.

Frank


Yeah, I didn't even need hindsight to tell me any of that, because I have...sight. I don't know why people buy into this reality drama so readily, when it's clearly manufactured and fake. I never saw the "Zulema was a bitch" thing, she was just there for herself...like all the contestants to be. You don't have to be a Wendy, but concentrating on being bff's with everybody seems like a waste of an opportunity.


PS I feel the same way about the other "villains," too. Kenley, Jeffrey, Santino, et al may not have been perfect saints, but I've hardly seen any behavior on this I would truly call reprehensible or out-of-line. Not everyone gets along. I don't get why that is such a shock to everybody all the time.


suzq said...


Interestingly enough, her bio says nothing about Project Runway-- only has her modeling clients and movies listed.


I had the feeling that doing Project Runway was a negative experiance for her. She probably just wants to get past it.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

Pure gold, gentlemen.

PURE.
GOLD.

Thanks TLo!

PS: Kara may have gotten over 'cry and cut' but I think Nick still gets a bit riled up over Shatangi hoarding all the muslin (which we never saw on camera) with the model switch being the last straw.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola
8/13/09 1:26 PM
PS: Kara may have gotten over 'cry and cut' but I think Nick still gets a bit riled up over Shatangi hoarding all the muslin (which we never saw on camera) with the model switch being the last straw.


Ah yes, the muslin situation! I remember Tim asking why Santino wasn't afraid to admit to the gripe with Santino replying, "I didn't use the muslin so I didn't care."

That still cracks me the fuck up!

I also think that Shetangi was the first designer that Tim flat-out did not like.

Didn't he say that not only was he glad to see her go, but would've gladly paid her cab fare back to Brooklyn?


Amen, Dubois! I could not figure out WHAT Sasha Cohen saw in Zulema's costume. She should have, IMHO, picked Chloe's design.

LOVE this post -- these are two of my favorite moments ever, let alone from Season 2.


I think the term villain is a bit of misnomer for PR for the most part. I think the PR "villains" are more accurately triggers of conflict. Certainly a more apt description in the cases of Zulema, Santino, ALP and Kenley. None of them were out to target anyone deliberately. More of a question of personality types heightening the tension of an already tense situation.

I never thought of Zulema as a bitch. Interesting Shetangi was never mentioned until the reunion. But I did think at the time Zulema didn't come across very warm or witty. Most of the other designers just seemed more likeable. Nor did she really seem to come across as an exceptional designer in my opinion. (Although I liked her muslim outfit in the first challenge.) That may have helped to elicit the visceral reaction from her request for a walk-off.

I admit I couldn't help but smile how Rachel, at the reunion, got the last word by mentioning Zulema still made a crappy outfit that failed the challenge

Personally I don't think strategizing and manuevering on a show like PR does that much to help a contestant. Sometimes it can really backfire

Frank

Frank


mmm said...DAMN, wish I'd seen this season. Oh, the things I have missed.....sniff, sniff......

you can watch it for free on youtube. PRepisodes has all the seasons (at a decent quality too) :)


I think the term villain is a bit of misnomer for PR for the most part. I think the PR "villains" are more accurately triggers of conflict. Certainly a more apt description in the cases of Zulema, Santino, ALP and Kenley. None of them were out to target anyone deliberately.

Frank

8/13/09 1:55 PM


Frank, I was with you until you lumped ALP into this bunch.

Seeing that he eventually targeted Angela (not saying she didn't deserve it in a way) disqualifies him from the rest.


A little bit of help please:

periodically you refer to dresses from seasons past. I want to click to look at them (because my memory isn't what it should be).

is there any quick way to see the creations of each season, by episode? I want a quick "Point and click". Is it on your website?

Many thanks....
-No Memory Maniac-


There is a pulldown menu at the bottom of the front page labeled "Posts by episode."


Not a fan of Zulema or her work. Yes, she certainly did nothing out of bounds and one can even think it's smart to grab every advantage you can and try to weaken the other competitors. But on PR that seems like a losing gambit. It might work on Survivor but the ones on PR most closely associated with this kind of deliberate strategizing (Wendy Pepper and Zulema) are ultimately losers because they produce butt-ugly clothes. No amount of strategizing or game-playing can overcome that.


(What is this about hoarding the muslin? I don't remember this from the show, or the reunion show...?)

I rather disliked the model switching (or non-switching, rather) scheme they imposed on season 2; iirc, in season 1 everyone could switch models every time, with the winning designer going first and everyone's name being drawn out of a hat. I liked that better. I think in PRCanada (both seasons) the winning designer could chose to switch models, and then everyone else got to as well, or could choose to keep their model, and then no one got to switch. I *think* PR1 still had the better idea.

What happened in later seasons? Did they keep experimenting on model-switching schemes or did they settle? I liked how they seemed to switch models around a lot in season 1; it feels like in later seasons designer preferred being able to fit their models consistently over nabbing the best walker, necessarily. (Although I am of course relying on TLo's opinion of who is a good walker or not to judge this... maybe the models just got better at walking through the challenges?)


Anyone who listened to the podcasts that used to be on iTunes knows that Uncle Tim disagrees with y'all that Zulema was a villain. For the entire next season, he would use her as a comparison to anyone who acted badly, as in, "I don't hate _______. It isn't like he's Zulema or something." And if Uncle Tim is selling it, I'm buying it!

"It's a motherfucking walkoff" is without a doubt the greatest thing ever uttered on PR. Hands down.


Daniel V's face kills me- it's almost a living cartoon with his eyes so wide open. *ahahahaha*


Anonymous
8/13/09 2:18 PM

Yes, she certainly did nothing out of bounds and one can even think it's smart to grab every advantage you can and try to weaken the other competitors.


I don't know why she needs to justify switching models? She thought her model was bad; she thought the model she switched for was better; everyone claims having a good model can really help one sell one's clothes; so why shouldn't she switch models? It's a privilege you earn for winning challenges. It's a wonky privilege, since you have to win a challenge to dump the model that supposedly helped you win that challenge, but it is something the competition provides for. Why should anyone be criticized for taking advantage of it?

And I highly doubt she was targeting Nick, since (referring the handy chart in wiki) it is apparent that their performance in the challenges up to then was, at most, equivalent, with slight advantage to Zulema. The eventual final 3 were clear front-runners even then; if Zulema were really strategizing on weakening an opponent (rather than just giving herself an advantage) she should have taken one of their models. (Though, it's kind of funny that all 3 of the models Zulema asked to walk wound up being out before Rachel....)


LOVE IT!

I use the phrase "It's a motherfucking walkoff" all the time. It is useful in all aspects of life, IMHO.


Anonymous
8/13/09 2:25 PM (What is this about hoarding the muslin? I don't remember this from the show, or the reunion show...?)


Well, if you must know...


They never showed the muslin controversy in the show. Tim talked about it in an interview.

It seems that Tim&Co. wondered why the designers asked for a new roll of muslin every other day. Turns out, Zulema would take the roll, put it under her workspace and leave a sign stating that its was hers and nobody could take it. Tim asked later why they didn't confront her and the consensus was that they were mostly scared of Zulema tearing them a new one.

Tim then asked Santino if he was afraid of her too, to which Santino replied that he didn't use muslin so he didn't care.


I heart this series.

I love how Uli did the same thing to Mychael and it was just, oh well. That sucks. Over and done with.


(throwing roses)

I love you Boys. I live for this stuff.

Ed & I still yell out, "It's a motherf***ing walk off," every now and again for no good reason.


re: muslin story

Pfft, I see. Yeah, I think that's a much better reason to not think well of her than "she took someone's model!!!!"


If Rachel didn't feel bad enough by Zulema picking another model, I wonder how she must have felt when she heard all the negative comments about her. i.e. gumby legs, stiff, can't walk. Nick made it sound as if he had been given a troll to work with.

At the end of the day, it's the garment and not the model that people want to buy.


Although it's more of what she did when they first moved in and she wouldn't let anyone else in the apartment have closet space. I feel sorry for whoever had to put up with rooming with her (was it Kara?)


One of MY favorite lines from Season Two was Santino-as-Michael-Kors: "It looks like it came out of a baboon's butt."

I watched Season 2 on dvd, years after it had happened, and I have to say, Santino really did not strike me as the raving asshat everyone thinks he is. I found him really entertaining, arrogant (but most of the designers are, in one way or another), erratic and hysterical. He wasn't nasty for the sake of being nasty. I just got the sense that he didn't really care and was going to say and do whatever he wanted. It wasn't malicious, is what I'm saying. Malice is really, really unappealing to me; arrogant jerkery, when covered with a really good sense of humor, can work.


This is such a fantastic post :P

You guys should totally do a 'top 20 best lines' post because oh my gosh how the memories make me laugh.


Anonymous
8/13/09 3:14 PM

If Rachel didn't feel bad enough by Zulema picking another model, I wonder how she must have felt when she heard all the negative comments about her. i.e. gumby legs, stiff, can't walk. Nick made it sound as if he had been given a troll to work with.


Not only Nick, either; Tim was pretty insulting to her, too. Was he just trying to make Nick feel better by commiserating with him? A bit overboard if that's the case....


Oh man, one of the best PR episodes EVAH. The drama, the tears, the suspense!

Thanks for recapping it so well, boys, it took me back to the first moment (well, 1st five times watching it) of shock when Zulema pulled the walk-off move. Also, cry and cut? Too fucking awesome.


Ha! That shot of Andrae is priceless!!! Thank you for these posts, guys! They bring back great memories of a fabulous PR time.


I am proud of the fact that I was a huge Kara Janx fan from the beginning of Season 2, but I tell ya Zulema and "cry and cut" was the best doggone thing eva! Well actually it takes a back seat to Daniel V in that ridiculous ponytail with a big ol' sloppy grin on his face, proclaiming, "it's a m***** f****** walkoff!"

I think that season 2 cast was actually the least talented PR cast, (yeah I said it, that's right they are worse than season 5), but season 2 is the marathon that I would want playing on a snow day. Not a lot of deep and diverse talent, but they did produce a lot of funny, along with "pretty potty dresses."

That screen cap of Heidi's reaction to Zulema's request for a walkoff is epic. In years to come when screencapping is deemed an art form, T and Lo are going to be the D.W. Griffith of screen captures, without the Klan glorification of course.


"It's a motherfucking walk-off." remains one of my favorite things said on TV, ever.


Thanks for this post. Such entertainment.

Oh, and:
beautifulmonday said

"Daniel V's face kills me- it's almost a living cartoon with his eyes so wide open. *ahahahaha*"

Daniel V's face kills ME - it meets at least 90% of my personal criteria for male attractiveness and I find watching him talk totally mesmerizing.

Which has little to do with the attractions of this PR season, but it sure didn't hurt.


Though I agree Zulema was right in both instances I think she was one of the worst designers on the show. Almost all of her designs were terribly made.


Hahahahahaha LOVE THIS! The screencaps are awesome, you guys rock!


Shetangi is my motherfucking hero.


My favorite PR moment ever is also from this season, but it was from a video bonus on the Bravotv website and never on tv (I don't think). Santino was doing an impression of Tim Gunn singing the Nine Inch Nails song "I want to f*** you like an animal" and it was so perfect, and Daniel V was convulsed in genuine laughter and couldn't stop laughing and Santino just kept going.

Whatever else you say about Santino, that redeemed him for me. And Daniel has an awesome and infectious laugh.


One of my fave posts ever. HAHAHAHA. Those 3 screenshots at the end of the post are hysterical.


Zulema is the shizzle. And so is adorable Daniel V and his oh so unforgettable line.


Hahahahahahahaha and where's Andrae?????


You know, you two need to do a "Top 10 Lines from Project Runway" list or something. Because there are some great lines to be shared.


I so love these "Most Dramatic Moments" posts.


I agree with FormerlyAnon - Daniel V really IS my ideal of male attractiveness. AND I Loved the clothes he makes (most of the time. I loved the "uniforms" he did for that loft/hotel whatever it was).

the fact that he is the creator of the "It's a motherfucking walkoff" line makes me incredibly happy.


Ugh. Never was a Zulema fan, but you guys made a good point about her being in the right in those particular situations. I'll give her that. I was actually a Nick fan until that episode where he was such a drama queen over losing Tara as a model. If he had any kind of design talent, he should have been able to design for another model without it ruining his life. The histrionics were way over the top and from that point on, I was totally over him.


Here's the Santino/NIN/Tim Gunn impression:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgb5RJJ8y80


shetangy!


Hands down, my FAVORITE season of PR. But I do think that Santino as Time Gunn should get a special mention :) I heart Santino!


I would be a terrible reality TV contestant, because, like Kara in this episode, I sometimes just fall apart under pressure. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, I am a wreck. I cry non-stop, I start thinking of all the terrible things that could happen, I get in a funk that I just can't stop. But the thing is, when this happens to me--what Zulema did to Kara is EXACTLY what I need. Zuzu didn't get hung up on getting her to stop crying, or lecture, or make her feel worse; she just told her what was needed, and let her do it in her way. And that was pretty awesome.


The hilarious thing is that Bravo is re-running these early seasons right how as a lead-in to THAT OTHER CHANNEL's Project Runway Season 6.

Well, they should. It's the only really spectacular thing Bravo has done (other than Inside the Actors Studio). Bravo could re-run it for years and years, like Law & Order, and we'd still watch.

The Project Runway reruns are like the best kind of comfort food.


Hahaha, cut and cry is one of my favorite expressions ever! Thanks for that, TLo!


I used to work for a community art center and I confess that I often used the "cry and cut" mantra to get us through several particularly tight installation deadlines. Usually the line got altered to: "you can cry, but you better hang and cry!" That got many a painting installed on time. Thanks Zulema!


That still of Andre the Gay is probably the best still in any episode of PR, ever.


Yes, yes, yes! The moments I would have chosen. Except where the designers did their own walk-offs at that one party. I would so pick Nick to show my line. If, you know, I knew how to sew.

Tara had a fab final collection altho of course we never saw it on the show. That was one of the (very)few things I liked about The Fashion Show is they showed the decoy collections in the finale. At any rate, Tara is one of my all-time faves. Even more so now for saying she agreed with Zulema in that moment.





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