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All-Star Sweet P

Alright poodles, we're rolling up our sleeves and getting back into it.

This is the part where we talk about her personality on the show and blahblahblah. Nothing against her, but except for a minor and highly edited storyline about a rivalry with Uli, there's nothing to talk about, so let's jump in.


Let's start off by admitting one thing: Sweet P has an aesthetic; a sort of shabby romanticism of faded flowers and hippy chick girliness coupled with an ever-so-slight L.A. edge to it. It's not our thing at all but it's a perfectly commendable aesthetic and you can do a lot of interesting things with it. We're going to try and bear that in mind in our critiques. It's only fair to admit upfront when something's just not your thing.

This was a pretty nice dress. Somewhat plain, and we don't like the color, but cute nonetheless.

Our main criticism is the fit on this garment. Generally speaking, Sweet P shies away from fitted garments. That's fine, but this is clearly a dress that's meant to fit the wearer a little better than this. Admit it, if your girlfriend came out of the dressing room looking like this, you'd say, "Let's go down a size and see how that looks."

Still, a good first entry and one that made us and the judges sit up a little bit because it was different from what we'd expected.

Okay, here's what we're talking about. That faded, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, rocker chick thing she does. Definitely not our thing but if you're going for that, this is a very good design.

Again, it's very away from the body and floaty, but with this dress, it makes sense because she clearly wasn't going for a fitted or tailored look like the previous dress.

It's also not a color that we particularly like but if you like that sort of thing, if you're one of those airy, poetry-writing, flowers-in-your-hair, boyfriend-rides-a-motorcycle types, then this is the dress for you.

A pretty dress, no doubt. Main criticism: technical. Look at that side seam. You can hide that kind of sewing with a lot of frayed ruffles but you can't hide it in a basic seam.

We should add that we DO like those frayed ruffles as well as the frayed and ripped fabric roses. A nice touch.

This look got a lot of criticism in the comments section but honestly? We have no problem with it.

Except for the fact that it doesn't hide that it was made from unconventional materials and therefore could never "pass" as "real" clothing, it's still a kind of cute, kind of witty design for her.

A costume? Sure. But a cute, well-made one. There were certainly entries a lot worse than this one in this category, including the one from the winning designer.

The silhouette, the colors and the flowers all tied it in nicely to the rest of the collection.

If you read our previous posts on the show, then you know we felt this collection received higher scores than we felt it merited. The three previous looks deserved whatever praise the judges wanted to heap on them, but we were totally befuddled when the judges all praised this look.

It's not awful, mind you (at least this part of the dress isn't); it's just so incredibly basic and style-less. Plain Jane. And regular readers know how little we like big floppy bows as embellishments for grown women.

It's a pretty fabric, even if we don't like the color (again), but it doesn't remotely look like a red carpet dress, which, at the very least is supposed to look expensive.

This, at its best, looks like a home-sewn bridesmaid dress. Put her in a big floppy hat and she'd be right at home in a 1978 wedding party.

The absolute worst part of it is that awful dust ruffle on the bottom. Unfortunately, there aren't any good shots of it, so if you can't see it or remember it, trust us. It's bad.

It's really not a bad collection at all. As we said, it showed some growth and expansion on her part (as well as some improvement) while remaining totally within her aesthetic and identifiable as her work. We have no doubt that she has or could have a decent sized customer base to build a line on. We just think the judges over-praised and over-rated it. In our imaginary judging, she would have rated a solid 5th place, possibly 4th, but definitely not ahead of Uli's.

Which, come to think of it, is probably why the editors worked so hard to create an Uli/Sweet P rivalry.

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"a sort of shabby romanticism of faded flowers and hippy chick girliness coupled with an ever-so-slight L.A. edge to it."

That's the PERFECT description of Sweet P's style, and exactly the reason I loved her designs.


The green dress was ok except for that big saggy blob at the abdomen. But that the whole collection beat out Uli's? No no no no no.


Ugh to all of it. No way this was better than Uli's group.


I hate how she just shoved those flowers down the back of her restaurant dress. The only good dress, I thought, was the first one and now I see it again it's not actually that good


Sweet P's aesthetic is also very commercial, which is perfecly illustrated in the first garment. She can make a pretty, wearable, and sellable dress. She's just not an innovative designer. There's nothing wrong with that in general, but it's wrong for a competition like this


Thank you! Did the judges not notice the awful fit on the first dress, especially so blatantly right in her lady area? I don't recall one of them mentioning it. Otherwise, it was a cute dress.

As for the 2nd dress, any dress that can make a stick-thin model look dumpy and even kind of strangely fat is not a good dress.

That third dress is looks like 2 cupcakes adhered together, one upside down. And the top does not fit at all, so even as a cute costumey dress it still kind of fails.

Overall, not so impressed.


You have got to be kidding. Sweet P's restaurant dress is a fucking joke. (Yes, a lot of them were, but that is still no excuse.)

Sweet P opened with a cute, plain dress then showed a whole lotta fug. I can't believe she was in the top seven, let alone the top four. Bye-bye, credibility.


Starlite said...
You have got to be kidding. Sweet P's restaurant dress is a fucking joke. [...] Bye-bye, credibility.


You promise you'll never come back?


I understand her aesthetic. Hell... I wish I could pull some of it off, even.

But the restaurant challenge dress looked so out of whack with the other dresses she made and the red carpet dress was so obviously ruined by the bottom ruffles that it dropped the whole collection down into the bottom scores for me.

And I genuinely like her fabric choices and colours but, nah, the collection didn't hold up.

On the other hand, next time I'm in LA, I would really like to see what her clothes are like on a rack. Another thing I like about her style is that I get the feeling the clothing textures and combinations are itching to be felt and handled.

I, personally, am interested in her stuff but I know and can see why everyone is POed by her doing so well in this challenge and I agree with sentiments (but I still wanna try on some of her clothes).


I really didn't like the restaurant dress, either. Maybe w/o the accursed bow it would have worked as "whimsical." But bows are just never okay.

On the whole, not my aesthetic and not particularly interesting. I am so. flipping. tired of one-sleeve dresses. Please be over now.


Yes, you guys described her style perfectly. It's clothing for the kind of girl who decorates her home in the "shabby-chic" style, complete with white wicker headboard and bedroom set.

It isn't my thing either, but I think that second dress with the ruffles and fabric flowers is the best look of the lot. It really embodies her aesthetic and has a very romantic and youthful feel to it.
The unconventional materials dress looks like a Disney character dress, but I still like it. You know, as a Disney character dress, not as actual clothing.


I thought most of her work on her season of PR was a joke. She seemed to be in way over her head. So I'm surprised to find that I do like the first dress (was it leather?) quite a lot. Poorly fitted but very nice design. Look 2 - again, better than what she'd previously done and it does demonstrate her esthetic very well but it's poorly made and just kind of meh. Restaurant look was a joke. It was just as bad, maybe even worse, than Daniel's. It wasn't offensive as his was but it looked like a costume thrown together at the last minute from random materials. Red Carpet look - you summed it up with your evocation of a wedding in 1978. Perfect!

No way her collection was better than Uli's. It's an insult to even suggest it is.

And before Gotham Tomato can get on here and say for the umpteenth time that Sweet Pea was kept on to appeal to suburban housewives, let's just acknowledge once and for all how utterly ridiculous that is. I can understand the meddling producers might want to keep her on to appeal to a certain demographic but that demo sure as hell isn't suburban housewives.


There is no way Sweet P's collection was in any way better than Uli's.
I love the design of the first dress, but the execution lost a bit in translation. If fitted properly, and in a different color, I could and would wear it.
I've never been attracted to an "attar of roses" look as in the second dress. I can almost smell the stuff packed away in trunks in my grandma's attic.
Restaurant dress...too cutsey and contrived.
And as TLo said, the supposed red carpet gown was truly one to be worthy of a 1978 bridesmaid.
I still like Sweet P, and always loved her Levi's challenge dress, though.


what happened to "don't bore the judges?" this collection was just that - B-O-R-I-N-G.

The first look was about as edgy as Sweet P might be able to get. The second look lost me at the cutsey-poo flowers on the shoulder - without that, it might not been so awful, but with that it just screamed "Holly Hobby" - which is not a look for anyone over the age of 8.

The restaurant look was dreadful - the way the bodice was so rigid and stayed away from the body - there was just so much else shown by the other designers that was better in that challenge.

And then the last look had all the fashion-forward sensibility of someone's high school home ec project in the 70's.

How Sweet P wound up in the final four is beyond my comprehension.

srq


Allow me to set up for the all-awaited GT trash-fest:

It wasn't better than Uli's, but better if anything, SweetP was middle of the road.

I still think she's talented and really excels in her style, but I never quite figured out what her style was, exactly.

This collection left me even more confused about that.


UntilYesterday

Ugh, I hadn't yelled at the screen like I did over this collection since the prom challenge season four. How Sweet P was in the top I will never ever ever understand. That's a basket of flowers not a dress!


Not top 4.
The first dress had some technical issues, like were the tucks on the bodice are, and the tucks on the waist seam of the skirt 3? That's a little odd too. That's part of the weird fit. Those tucks don't relate to the curves on the human body.

The Baby Jane dress would be my favorite if it were executed better. As it is , it's almost embarassing.

Lampshade party joke with roses on top. Why is the belt pieced together at the center back when it is tied in the front?

I like the color combo. But the ruffle on the bottom is so ugly.


If the producers didn't have trouble finding participants for this show, I seriously doubt that SweetP would have been in it. She is NOT an allstar. She isn't even a designer really: She's a home sewer (and a very basic one at that).

You can see the aesthetic she's trying to copy, (it's a sort-of Anthropologie thing) but it is always derivative and she does it poorly. Always poorly.

Good fabric choices, but lousy end results. (And the worst thing about that restaurant challenge dress doesn't show in the still pictures - it's how it moved).

--GothamTomato


Can I also say that look #2 looks like Louise's style?

Too early?


That restaraunt dress is perfect for Anya.

It's just so Anya.


bitchybitchybitchy

I still want to know what substances the judges were abusing when they critiqued Sweet P's collection.

I thought her restaurant look especially was a joke- totally costumey and I hated those tacky roses on the skirt.

No way did this collection belong in the top four instead of Uli's.


i couldn't believe that DVF loved this collection. she's usually right on target with her critiques. i have a feeling that the only reason sweet p placed so high was because the producers/other judges saw how much DVF loved it and didn't want to disrespect her opinion.


"Sewing Siren said: I like the color combo. But the ruffle on the bottom is so ugly."




Yeah. Somewhere in the New Orleans there's a old bordello missing a lampshade.

--GothamTomato


Why do I feel like I'm the only human being who liked the restaurant dress? Yeah, there's a few things that are ick about it, like the bow and the back of the dress treated like a damn vase, but I think it's really cute.

I actually want to reproduce it in real fabrics (and adjust to ick out of it) and wear it solely for myself. I just found it downright adorable.


Actually I can excuse the fit issues with the first dress since it is made of leather and the issues are not blatant. I'm told you only get 1 shot with a leather garment. Looking at how the dress was designed I think it would have been a little unrealistic to get a perfect fit under the time constraints. Plus didn't they choose models the day after they started the challenge?

But I am glad you guys prefaced the issue about it not being to your style. This style repesented really is not for everyone. There is a certain eccentric feel to it. Sweet P might have had more in common with Elisa than she realized...lol

Frank


Sweet P's collection was cute-mainly because I do like the rosey dress altho the rosettes are a little too ginormous for me to ever wear. I didn't get the mossy colors on the rest-not a particularly exciting nor flattering shade. I do think her restaurant look fit in very well with the rest of her collection color and themewise and she did deserve props for that.


maybe i dont know fashion at all, but i liked sweet p's collection. at least i "get" her.


yet another laura

Maybe she should try getting a job with the Danish label NOA NOA. They do very well over here with their version of shabby chic.

Sweet Pea's muted colours would fit in pretty well with their style, though they are also known for very detailed, flawless construction, which does not appear to be her strength. Still, a lot of people in Europe- especially younger ones- really like the layered, retro-romantic shabby-chic style.


Yeah. Somewhere in the New Orleans there's a old bordello missing a lampshade.

--GothamTomato

I was thinking it looked more like a Victorian vagina hat.


"anon said: And before Gotham Tomato can get on here and say for the umpteenth time that Sweet Pea was kept on to appeal to suburban housewives, let's just acknowledge once and for all how utterly ridiculous that is. I can understand the meddling producers might want to keep her on to appeal to a certain demographic but that demo sure as hell isn't suburban housewives."




Well then, what demographic are the producers pandering too if not housewives? She's certainly not there because she's a fashion designer of any descernable caliber. They are pandering to that audience in the same way the View keeps Elizabeth Hasselbeck to pander to the dumb people.

If PR was a show about hobbyists making clothes to sell at local craft fairs, then yes, SweetP would belong. But she's just not a fashion designer.

And btw, it is NOT because I don't get what she's trying to do. I actually LOVE the aesthetic she's trying to copy, but she just does it so poorly I just can't get with it.

--GothamTomato


I liked it. Not the last dress, which looked like, as you say, a 70s bridesmaid dress. But I liked the other three. Romantic and cute are always consider lesser than edgy when it comes to any form of art, and undeservedly so. I like what she does when she does it well, and I think the first three looks, aside from the flaws TLo pointed out, are done pretty well.

Heh, it looks like basically I'm agreeing with everything TLo said, except that her aesthetic is one I like.


I love the hippie-chick aesthetic; SPeas refreshing maturity, and this musty pink/brown/green color pallette. I'm a redhead, so I can't wear a lot of the really strong fashionable colors the designers love, including really harsh blacks. WIth SPea's stuff, I can see myself in it without editing out the color choices... I just wish SPea could sew better; Uli had her beat on design and sewing, no question.

I agree with whoever said the judges pre-determined who they wanted to stroke, and stayed on script.


I really like the first dress : )


I don't understand how you guys can think that that "flowers in a barrel" dress is any good.


Her restaurant dress reminded me of a toned down Betsy Johnson dress.


The tone of this post perfectly captures the way so many Sweet P fans feel: the clothes aren't perfect, but she is so damn appealing as a person we can't help but try to find kind things to say.

It was a shame the producers had to manipulate the SP/Uli rivalry edit -- that kind of stuff could work with designers we don't know, but to try to create angst between two sincerely nice people, huge fan favorites to boot, was silly.

And I liked the first dress a lot, but agree she could go down a size. Sadly in my case my friends are usually recommending the opposite.

Suz


Will I burn in hell wearing gasoline drawers if I confess I don't like ANY of it?


Looking closer at the construction in Sweet P's collection, I don't know why the judges placed her in the top four. Uli was robbed!

The only reason the restaurant dress looked decent was because Anya modeled it perfectly on the runway.

I'm glad Anya went back to being a brunette and improved her runway walk after her stint on "America's Next Top Model."


Ugh the only look I would ever even think of wearing is #1
and that's in a different color and a size smaller
then it'd be cute, if not particularly innovative

the other 3?
GAG
and I love hippie dresses and floral prints
but they're not the most fashion forward
HATE the flowers on look #2
#3 is just pure costume and the colors look like an easter egg although I like the back
#4 is dull and ugly

so yeah, I have no idea why she was in the top 4
Uli's was a million times more gorgeous
Modern looks just tend to look more fashion-y than these old lady looking ones


She deserved her place in the top four, but Uli should have been there with her. The person who should not have been there was Daniel.

I agree that the fourth dress wasn't "red carpet", but it was a perfectly respectable evening look, and she tied it in very nicely with the rest of her collection, through the color, the ruffle and the belt.


^Totally agree on your point about Daniel. He was only there because of his red carpet dress.

This challenge was confusing; it seemed the judges placed more emphasis on the red carpet look than the actual collection. If it had been communicated that this was all about the red carpet look and the collection was secondary, I think the designers would have done things a little differently.


NO WAY this belonged anywhere near the top 4. What a crock!


Not to my tastes but I guess some people are into it. However, that does not excuse the red carpet look which looked light a nightgown my GRANDMOTHER might be seen wearing.


TheNYCourier on 8/28/09 at 3:46 PM said...."a sort of shabby romanticism of faded flowers and hippy chick girliness coupled with an ever-so-slight L.A. edge to it."

In the interior decorating world it is called "shabby chic" and there are whole reality TV series dedicated to "shabby chic" interior decorating. No doubt "shabby chic" is a market niche.

TampaBay


1. I like Gotham Tomato. I look forward to her input on just about every post. She is clever and thoughtful, some things others might want to work on.

2. I realize that we ARE here to judge, but not each other. There are plenty of judgements to hand out to the outsiders...

3. I like Sweet P, and her designs. I think her restaurant dress was very clever. I believe she looked around in her exhaustion during that ridiculous task and decided that she would do this with a wink and a smile, evoking Betsy Johnson mixed with her own style.

4. Uli scored so big and set the bar so high with the restaurant dress that we are all confused about what is to be expected from a bunch of dead tired designers and the remnants of a restaurant. Think back - who else had a dress that was really fashionable and well done from that challenge? Maybe Korto, maybe. Not: Chris March, NOT Jeffrey, so not Daniel...


OK: Discuss.


I love Sweet P, but the second and last look reminded me of Laura Ashley bedding. The first dress just looked. . . off somehow. Your description in right on target. And the restaurant doohickey? A cupcake? A placemat marries a cupcake? Man, I don't know, but it didn't look like a wearable dress.


TampaBay wrote:
"In the interior decorating world it is called "shabby chic" and there are whole reality TV series dedicated to "shabby chic" interior decorating. No doubt "shabby chic" is a market niche."


I hated that show on Style Network when it first debuted.

I miss when Style Network was all about covering Fashion Week and designer profiles. Now it's just turned into reality shows profiling uninteresting people and "Whose Wedding Is It Anyway?" *sigh*


I like this collection, definitely more so than Daniel's. Solid #4 (with D at #5). Aside from the bridesmaid dress, which I definitely have somewhere in powder blue, it would be cute for someone. I really like the restaurant dress, probably because it's fun so she gets away with the fact that it doesn't look like a real dress (because you can't seriously make a corset out of tubing).


I don't get it. I kind of like the first dress, but like in Jeffrey's collection, it goes downhill from there. This should never have been in the top 4.


"if you're one of those airy, poetry-writing, flowers-in-your-hair, boyfriend-rides-a-motorcycle types, then this is the dress for you"

My best friend could literally be described with those very words, and she and I were in total agreement that this collection was a mess. The only thing I really enjoyed was the color palette, but with such soft, old-fashioned colors I was expecting something with a little more structure, maybe some tiny Victorian accents here and there. I think romantic is fine, but these garments were sloppy at best, and I felt there was a lack of inspiration or even cohesion to the four looks.

And the restaurant dress was a joke. Honestly, I think it was very "wink, wink, nudge nudge" when designers like Uli took it as an opportunity to show superior technical skills. Not that wit in fashion is a bad thing. I was missing "For nuts only."

I liked Sweet P in her season but I feel she just shouldn't have been put in the top four. And I think she's going to recieve a lot of heat for it that she doesn't deserve. She had a weaker collection, but it was the judging that was way off on this one.


Well, I love Gotham Tomato. The first thing I do after reading TLo's post is hit the Control-F with "tomato" to find what she's got to say.

Always smart, snappy, and on point.

I really like Sweet Pea as a person, but as a designer? No.


If you want to agree or disagree with something another commenter said, by all means do so, but if you want to treat us all to your opinions regarding what you don't like about another commenter, please don't. It will only get deleted.


"TampaBay said: In the interior decorating world it is called "shabby chic" and there are whole reality TV series dedicated to "shabby chic" interior decorating. No doubt "shabby chic" is a market niche."




I love the shabby chic look, but I hate what that trend did to flea markets. You used to be able to get great, funky furniture, etc for cheap, then that woman started buying it up, distress painting it and charging an arm & a leg for it and talking about it on TV, and suddenly prices went through the roof. Same goes for all the tchotchkes that go with it. For those of us who were shabby before it was chic, it took all the fun out of it.

--GothamTomato


sweet p has one of the lowest taste levels pr has ever seen...she has definitely redeemed herself with that green leather dress which is quite cool...

the rest ...not so much


The third dress makes her look like a walking billboard for 1-800-flowers or a singing telegram costume on crack.


TLo, I really appreciate the respectful reviews of both Jeffrey and Sweet P, where you don't care for their style but nonetheless praise and criticize them objectively.

I actually really liked Sweet P's work this time around (after hating her work before). In a historic first for me, I give her twenty four thumbs up.

Leather dress - This was a magnificent job in terms of lines of the garment. They were unexpected, clean, and eye-catching. The neckline and sleeve were perfectly proportioned, and the slanted darts at the waist gave this dress great visual appeal. Yes, she had some bunching in places, but I think that's attributable to working with leather at lightning speed more than anything else. This is a first-class effort. Cleaned up, it is every bit as good as Kors. And made up in a heavy black crepe either as a long or short dress and accessorized by a simple wide diamond bracelet on the sleeveless arm, it would be Oscar-worthy, IMO.

The apricot dress was feminine and frilly. I'm not a fan of the shabby chic roses look either, but this once again was a very well balanced look despite its execution problems.

The restaurant challenge dress just made me exclaim in surprise. I'm with Diane von Furstenberg on this one - it was wonderful. I thought Sweet P showed a marvelous sense of color, composition, and balance here even if it did come out looking like a cupcake. It was both complex and cute, and a triumph considering the materials they had to work with.

I especially liked the long gown, with the exception of that raggy-fluffy bottom stuff. Had she just left it plain material going all the way down, it would have been truly smashing. To have such a simple but flattering neckline even with all those vertical tucks is a real accomplishment, and the fabric draped and moved like liquid gold.

Sweet P showed an astonishing growth here - she's moved to simpler garments with far stronger lines that move well and flatter the body. There is more than a hint of classic, clean lines here (Kors, Halston), and if she dumped the shabby chic details that drag down the garments and make them look home-sewn (or at least use them extremely sparingly), I think she's capable of absolutely top-notch work. She's clearly selecting better fabrics than the Holly Hobby stuff she did before, and seems to take great joy in creating very feminine garments.

This is one designer I do hope to see a lot more of. Congratulations, Sweet P, and keep up the good work.


What are you guys talking about? That red carpet gown would have been perfect for Loretta Lynn during the height of her migraine prescription-popping nervous breakdown phase. I had no idea that flammable dust ruffles were so "on trend" these days.

The leather dress was inoffensive, fine even, but the pooch was just a lot to ignore.

The shabby chic (Atlas Apartments pillow) dress was fine.

The restaurant challenge one bothered me only because the basket/chair back/whatever strapless "top" kept trying to escape the dress. It just kinda moved away from the body, like a conquistador's chest armor.

Still not seeing how she wound up placing ahead of Uli, and I hated that manufactured drama between these two nice designers.


Looked more like a cohesive collection than some of the others. I wouldn't have put this in the top 4, but it's interesting and Sweet P's designs were a nice surprise overall.


I think Lifetime should consider doing a show with the designers auf'd early.

Who wouldn't want to see Daniel Franco duke it out with Jerry Tam, or Lupe freak out Stacey while Carmen "The Baller" Webber talks trash about all of them?

I would love the idea of an All-Stunk Show.


the first dress was cute - and like you said - fitted better it would have been a stand out.

the rest - no. sorry sweet p. love you, not your dresses. this would have been placed 6th for me.


SUS said:
Still not seeing how she wound up placing ahead of Uli...."


I'd like to take an honest stab at this, becaues I know it's irritating the hell out of everyone. I stress that I'm just doing this from the pictures, and the dresses in the flesh might not have these issues.

Uli's light apricot dress wasn't flattering in the bust area in the picture that TLo posted. I think that with regard to strapless dresses, the bust treatment is really important. From the picture, there didn't seem to be any real shaping or definition there, giving the model a troubling "flabby boob" look. In the picture, it looked like if the wearer started dancing and jiggling too much, the thing could even slip right off in a major wardrobe malfunction. Had Uli created a distinct bodice by including a seam under the bust and then several darts to give it a distinctive bust-shape, this gown would have been truly smashing. As it was, the rest of the gown was a nicely balanced confection, so this unfortunate flabby boob effect stood out jarringly (at least to me). Since Heidi is such a stickler on how a garment flatters the boobs, I'm thinking she might have tipped the balance on this issue.

Uli's two-toned cream and tan front ruffled dress had, from the looks of the picture, some serious puckering issues at the side seams. Again, I would attribute that bunching to the lightning speed with which they had to knock out these garments, but the judges might have marked her down for that.

And, lastly, the restaurant challenge dress may have been scored down as not having "designery" enough lines. (Pardon me for repeating myself a little here, but I want to say this a bit differently than before.) If you totally ignore the fabric for a minute (as well as that drapey thing over one shoulder), it was just a simple sheath with two shoulder seams and two side seams. Even that would not have been fatal had she but cut a more visually arresting neckline on it. When Michelle Obama wears Kors sheaths, for example, there is always some variant on the neckline that you just can't get in a mass-produced garment. That sunshine yellow Kors sheath that she rocked this summer was indeed a sheath, but it had a strong, sure neckline cut into it that just made that dress. Here, however, Uli had an uninteresting round neckline that you might see made up in simple flowered cotton in Sears - it just wasn't "designery" enough IMO. Please don't get me wrong, I think she should have been given major, major points for that show-stopping fabric she created out of mesh and fabric strips, but I suspect that the judges also wanted to see something more than a ruffle grafted onto one shoulder to distinguish the sheath from a run-of-the-mill silhouette. I can't fathom any other reason why this dress didn't propel her straight into the final 4.


As multiple anons have pointed out -unless it is Gotham - is that a pseudonym?


The thing is, there are women who have less than ideal porportions who adore lose fitting clothing. You may not dream about these clothes but they would fly off the rack.


My theory about Sweet P is that the problem is not that she is not a good designer, it is that she is not a good sewer; or rather that she is not a good sewer within the constraints of a competitive reality TV show, which results in her adapting her designs into somthing that she can construct and therefore her PR creations (understandably) come off as home sewn looking.

Look #1 - While there are fit issues, I like this dress. I think this is her niche, as the judges said, she needs to capitalize on her sweet and girly-tatooed, biker chick persona. I would like to see her keep sweet and girly as the baseline, but then edge it out with color, fabrications and styling.

Look #2 - I hate this look, I hate the silhouette but at the same time I have seen it crop up on the runways and red carpet, so unfortunately it is an "in" look. On a closer look, I do like the distressed / antique feel of the accents.

Look #3 - I think it is cute and humorous, it made me smile.

Look #4 - TLo nailed it, "put her in a big floppy hat and she'd be right at home in a 1978 wedding party." The ruffle at the bottom ruins the look, this is where it would have been good for Tim Gunn to come in and redirect her as he did in the Levi's challenge. While it still would have been basic, it would have by-passed butt-ugliness if it was shortened to cocktail length, perhaps even above the knee with more flare in the skirt. I think in this and other looks she is good at selecting fabric from a material and texture standpoint, but I am not a fan of her color sense.

If Sweet P evolves into the sweet and girly with an edge space, I'd like to see more from her. I'd be interested to see a collaboration between Sweet P and Jeffrey. Also, I don't feel that Sweet P was the one who robbed Uli of her place in the Top 4, Daniel V did.


Why did they divide the group into a top 4 and bottom 4? Why not a top 5 and bottom 3? Or reverse that and have top 3 and bottom 5 - then being in the last tier would not be as significant. Or just announce a winner with a bottom 7.

I don't disagree that SweetP belonged in the top group - I just would never have bumped Uli down to the bottom cluster (which I think rightly included Jeffrey, Santino and more sadly, Mychael).


I love the shabby chic look, but I hate what that trend did to flea markets. You used to be able to get great, funky furniture, etc for cheap, then that woman started buying it up, distress painting it and charging an arm & a leg for it and talking about it on TV, and suddenly prices went through the roof. Same goes for all the tchotchkes that go with it. For those of us who were shabby before it was chic, it took all the fun out of it.

--GothamTomato

Amen, sista! Flea markets have been crappy ever since that woman had her book, her tv show, her line of household goods and furniture.....I say she needs to be forced to live in a dark house with minimalist heavy black leather furniture forever....:)

As far as SweetP goes, this is an "okay" collection. I like the second look the best without all the rosette thingamabobs. But Uli should have been in the top four, not SweetP. She might be a sweetheart, but she's not a great designer.


MouseAnony - I just read your comments about Uli's collection. Y'know, I see what you are saying about fit etc. But I just loved her collection.

One thing we don't see as viewers is what weight the judges assign to the various elements in a designer's work. Or how much space there is between the contestants in the end lineup. If it was an actual race - would there be a close, tight group of two or three designers crossing the finish line almost simultaneously with the other designers trailing behind . . . . or what. It would be interesting to know.


I am reaching here but maybe the judges were making a comparison between her decoy collection and this one. And by that I'd understand that Sweet P has quite grown. She's got better focus, the designs don't look haphazard and even the color choices are better. Which goes to show how much I didn't like her decoy collection during her season. Lol.

Like many PR fans, I also don't believe this is better than Uli's. Still its nice to see Sweet P produce really pretty clothes, even if they're not my cup of tea. The first dress though I'd love to wear.


Isn't the model in the Baby Jane dress one of our Make Me a Supermodel friends? What's her name again?


Thanks for your explanation Mouse, but it still makes no sense to me (and you don't have to explain further because I still see no merit in dusty trunk togs with fit issues).

But I'll just file this in with all the other arbitrary judging that has pissed me off in the past.


I loved the leather dress. Everything else was too hippie for me. But I thought even Sweet Pea was better than Daniel.


OH, yes, to cast my vote with the others - there is no way she should have been in over Uli. But I think it should have been Uli, Chris, Sweet Pea and Korto Final Four, and NOT Suicide Bomber Boy Daniel. I just can't get over what the hell he was thinking in his collection??!!???


I don't understand DVF's comment that looking home-sewn is fine. In other words, poorly made, amateurishly-sewn dresses are fine on the runway? Odd.

The first dress is good in theory but the giant pooch below the waist wrecks it. The second dress, while far from my style/aesthetic, is fine except the fit of the bodice. I had a dress like that once, with the loose fit and big armholes, and you have to wear a tank or camisole underneath if you don't want to show your bra or boobs.

I actually kind of like the restaurant dress. She used some of the more difficult materials in the restaurant and made a whimsical, Disney-esque frock. No way is it as bad as Daniel's and Jeffrey's. I was thinking "prom" for the red carpet dress, but TLo nailed it with "bridesmaid".

Shabby chic has, for the most part, come and gone. I don't think it was ever taken seriously in design circles (kind of like "southwest" with all those coyotes'n'cacti). Not that being dissed in design circles invalidates it, but it goes along with the general disregard for romantic, traditional styles. I think they are felt to be unoriginal and derivative.


Gotham Tomato, I think Sweet P has a design background.I know that she has designed for Bebe. Sewing seems to be her weakness. (Granted, her design aesthetic is what it is and YMMV.)

I actually liked some of the designs she did on PR more than these. That dress she did in the couture challenge, for instance, was a much stronger design.


SUS, Sorry, I need to change my comment on one of Uli's dresses. I was staring at the pictures of her collection again and the lightbulb went off in my head --just remembered something relevant and verified it on the video of the episode.

While her cream and tan ruffled dress did pucker at the hip and waist, it would be wrong to imply that the cause was bad sewing. I think when TLo put Uli's collection up for commentary, we may have all assumed that those puckers were attributable to hasty sewing. BUT, Uli always does impeccable work. Here's the thing -- the "puckers" we see at the hip and waist actually look more like they are caused by a very slightly too-tight dress riding up a little. We've all experienced that, right, girls?

What I remembered was that on one of the days of the All-Star Challenge, neither Uli's main model nor her back-up models showed up so she couldn't do any fitting. Also, on the day of the runway, her main model again failed to show and she had to just go with her backup models. The film shows her quickly trying to fit dresses to the backups.

I'm thinking that she made that dress for a model with slightly narrower hips and, at that point, didn't have time to let it out. Looking at it again, I believe this was merely a fitting issue, not a quality of sewing issue.

Nina complimented Uli for her impeccable work, so wwhatever held Uli back from being in the top 4 as compared to Sweet P, this probably wasn't a factor.


Did anybody notice that Sweet P's long gown, stripped of that frou-frou crap on the bottom, looks very Angelina Jolie?


I think its Sweet P herself that everyone responds to. She has a very attractive personality. That makes it difficult to separate the person from the designs. Her design esthetic is not my exactly style either - but she sure is. Simply put - I like her - and that prompts a warmer attitude toward her designs. Not very critique-y of me I know - but it's how I respond to her work. I do agree with everyone who pegged her as more of a home sewer. If she wants her work to sell - she's gonna have to get someone else to stitch it for her. I don’t really see her as manufacturing her own line – but she definitely could find a market for individual pieces, or selling a design to someone else for production under her name. I also think Sweet P would do well interviewing other designers about their work – especially Runway alumni. Just an idea. She has a very accessible personality.


Put her in a big floppy hat and she'd be right at home in a 1978 wedding party.

SO FUCKING TRUE. That shit is straight out of my parents' wedding.


Other than the first dress that was more tailored, Sweet Pee's collection reminds me of all the stuff at Forever21 from two summers ago (at $28 a dress).


Anonymous said:
Isn't the model in the Baby Jane dress one of our Make Me a Supermodel friends? What's her name again?

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I believe it is Shannon from Season One of MMAS.


"Put her in a big floppy hat and she'd be right at home in a 1978 wedding party." -- oh, god -- and i have pictures of me in several of those get-ups (guess i'm dating myself)....yeah, the big floppy hats. yes, that dress would have been perfect for that.

i agree with the poster who said the restaurant challenge looked like a disney character dress.. i can see minnie mouse wearing this.

i did like the first dress, fit issues notwithstanding.... it's the only one i cared for. i continue to be baffled as to how this come out ahead of uli's collection. it just doesn't make sense.

i like sweet p, but i really don't care much for her designs. this collection was no exception.


Because, at heart, I am "one of those airy, poetry-writing, flowers-in-your-hair, boyfriend-rides-a-motorcycle" types, I love dress #2, minus the hanging garden of roses. A few strategically places roses would have been fine, but it looks like she blindfolded herself and went crazy with some pins. My immediate reaction to the restaurant dress was "what the fuck is that?" Seeing it close up hasn't changed my mind. I agree it looks like it was inspired by Betsey Johnson, but I've never been a fan of her work.

Gotham Tomato, I think you're great, but I don't agree that Sweet P appeals to suburban mothers. I mean, maybe some, but not what "suburban mom" conjures up. If I think about the stereotype of the suburban mom, edgy-hippie clothes are not what come to mind. I think Sweet P's clothes would appeal to small city urban yuppies (not a demographic I belong to). I see tons of them in Durham and Chapel Hill, and I can imagine any of them wearing Sweet P's clothes to an art opening or a party. That includes the restaurant dress.


NEWSBREAK!

Nowhere else to put this. I am watching The Ted Kennedy Funeral and Hillary Clinton looks GREAT! Her hair is wonderful and the best I have ever seen on her in years.

We will now return to our regularly scheduled program.

TampaBay


MouseAnony said...

Did anybody notice that Sweet P's long gown, stripped of that frou-frou crap on the bottom, looks very Angelina Jolie?


On what fucking planet can you see Angelina "all modeern, sleek and black" Jolie wearing that nasty, home-sewn, pea-green, Simplicity pattern 6669 gathered poly nightmare?


@MouseAnony

I noticed the Sweet P Red carpert dress looking sorta Jolie.

IMHO, Jolie wears very simple almost "Earth Mother" evening gowns almost all the time. As TLo said about a year ago...."Bitch does not even try anymore", I think Jolie's styling has gone gone to hell since she concluded her contract as the face of St. John Knits.

TampaBay


The dresses moved better than they looked standing still. Perhaps, the models should hold for a moment at the end of the runway to get a better sense of how the garment hangs.

I feel the same way about fitted pleats on skirts as I do on pants. They produce fabric pooches.

On the plus side, she did send out color and her color story was cohesive--even down to the restaurant outfit. And the only real problem with that outfit was the bodice--same as Daniel. I do agree with the judges that she entered that challenge with a sense of humor and lightheartedness. I thought it was her best look.

I believe Uli's looks represented more comparative growth, so I'm as befuddled as everyone else.


"Maura said: I don't agree that Sweet P appeals to suburban mothers. I mean, maybe some, but not what "suburban mom" conjures up. If I think about the stereotype of the suburban mom, edgy-hippie clothes are not what come to mind."




I wasn't talking about her clothes appealing to the suburban moms - just her story; her narrative & personality. I agree with you on who her clothes might be aimed at (though I don't think of them as edgy), it's the Anthropologie demo, but I don't think she's hitting the target.

--GothamTomato


Love Sweet P and I think she does have a point of view that a lot of women would appreciate. I personally love her color palette.


"I noticed the Sweet P red carpet dress looking sorta Jolie."

I thought so too, if she hadn't added that dust ruffle at the bottom of the dress.


Gotham Tomato: I wasn't talking about her clothes appealing to the suburban moms - just her story; her narrative & personality. I agree with you on who her clothes might be aimed at (though I don't think of them as edgy), it's the Anthropologie demo, but I don't think she's hitting the target.

Got it. I don't know too much about her other than what I saw on All-Stars.

I knew "edgy" wasn't the right word, but I spent too damned much time trying to figure out a different one and lost patience with myself.


This is "my style" and I really like most of it (don't throw things at me!). And I loved the last dress, less the ruffle at the bottom. It totally looks like something Angelina J. would wear to me. Go Sweet P!


What is wrong with appealing to suburban moms? FWIW, that is not my demographic.


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What is wrong with appealing to suburban moms? FWIW, that is not my demographic.


That's right, they wear clothes too you know.


Love her collection, I think Sweet P gets a bad rap because she knows Jeffrey and Santino, but her clothes are pretty, feminine and girly, a lot of women out there like that.


Sweet P, darling, we love you. Keep making beautiful clothes!!!!


"Sweet P has an aesthetic; a sort of shabby romanticism of faded flowers and hippy chick girliness coupled with an ever-so-slight L.A. edge to it."


Dead-on, guys. I personally love her.


Jeez, I'm so behind...so many posts. Sweet P is indeed sweet but me no like her clothes, way too Easter Parade.


ShamelessAddict

I think Sweet P's restaurant dress is hilarious...in a good way. To me, it is a windowbox from the 50's. Certainly not worthy of the top 4, especially when paired with her collection, but definitely within her aesthetic. Her leather dress is actually a great look, but the pea-green color really takes away from it. If that dress were navy blue or olive green, and a little better fitted, it would be a real stunning look.

With Sweet P, I get a real Rebecca Taylor vibe from her clothes and her palatte, but the ones that never made it to the collections. I get the feeling that her pieces are probably better when she has more time, but she does not work well under time constraints.


You're probably right, Addict. I remember she freaked out a lot about time constraints and had trouble finishing things when she was on Project Runway.


I don't get the sweet p thing; i can't remember a single look from the show. She seems like a perfectly nice person, but design-wise i find her very forgettable and wish they had used her spot for someone more talented.


The colors are fine if you are blonde. The leather dress was kind of interesting.

Nothing terrible.





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