The Tom & Lorenzo Archives: 2006 -2011
Our current site is here: www.tomandlorenzo.com

All-Star Korto

Darlings! We left the house for a couple hours today! Can you ever forgive us?

Now that we're home from much-needed grocery shopping (and dripping wet), let's get to Korto.

There was a bit of a tussle in the comments section over Korto's behavior during the show. A lot of people felt she came across a little sour and a little entitled and that she wasn't exactly gracious about making second place again.

Of course, even more people opined that she'd been robbed of the win, so we're kinda stuck here. Yeah, she didn't come off well in the end, but we can't really blame her. Her Bryant Park collection was pretty much flawless and we said at the time that under any other circumstances she would have easily won. It was her bad luck to be showing the same time as Leanne, who really put out a once-in-a-lifetime, jaw-droppingly beautiful and innovative collection.

Of course, that kinda forces the point that if you were so disappointed with the outcome last time, why would you put yourself in the same position again? Especially if you're potentially going up against a multitude of winning designers.

Let's take a look, shall we?

Believe it or not, we have a bit of a problem with this dress, which was her red carpet entry.

Don't get us wrong, it's cute as a button. A little overworked maybe, but very cute.

The problem? Except for the color, this looks almost exactly like some of the dresses in her Bryant Park show.

Since the judges fell all over themselves praising Daniel, Sweet P, and Chris for their growth, this was probably a fatal mistake on her part. Let us reiterate: super-cute dress. Just a little too familiar.

We go back and forth on this one. It's a great design. Very chic and sexy and cool. Love the sequins around the neckline.

And the strip of sheer fabric around the edge.

Our main issue is that we think she rendered the rest of it it in the wrong fabric. That tweed just looks too heavy for such a skin-baring outfit. The waist on those pants looks weird too.

And because it's such a heavy fabric, the fit just isn't what it could be, especially in the vest.

Once again: cute idea with some nice touches. Wrong fabric choice.

This was a gorgeous dress, no doubt about it. Great choice of shoes, too.

Again, great use of sequins around the waist and beautiful pleating all around, making good use of the print, which is one of Korto's strong points.

But again, we're sorry to say, it's in many ways a typical Korto dress and very in line with a lot of her previous work.

This, more than the other pieces, was what almost gave her the win. The judges were clearly wildly in love with this dress and for good reason.

In fact, they felt she could have passed it off as her red carpet entry. We mostly agree, but it's kind of stiff and heavy for the red carpet. A fantastic use of unconventional materials, but it didn't completely hide the fact that it was made of unconventional materials.

We do love it, though. Love the construction of the bodice.

And love the beads (which were actually lava rocks) on the skirt. When we saw her gluing them on to fabric we had our doubts but she pulled it off masterfully.

And the absolute best part of the dress in our opinion, was the back. That unusual strap is eye-catching and kind of sexy.

We think the judges fell all over this dress for another reason: it looked like something new from her. There was a slight edge to it that she doesn't normally demonstrate in her work.

Let's let the judges speak for a second:

MK: "These are clothes that are going to look great on women. They're going to want to wear it. I mean, it's that simple."

DVF: "All the clothes look like they would flatter the body, add to the body, and to have a signature."

NG: "Clearly, her restaurant look was the most; blew everybody's restaurant look [away.] I think she has evolved as well as a designer."

All of which we agree with (except we think Uli's restaurant look was just as good, if not better). We feel bad that she's so disappointed with the outcome, but we hope she can take some comfort in such high praise.

We're tired already of the argument about who should have won and who shouldn't have won. Let's just all agree that there was some whack coming out of the judges' mouths, no matter the outcome.

But we stick to our main point: as beautiful as this collection was - and it was really, really beautiful - it was a lot of what we've seen from her before. Every single other designer - Daniel, Sweet P, Chris, Uli, even Santino and Jeffrey - understood implicitly that the judges expected something new and different from them. Granted, the judges didn't love every change, but they went out of their way to praise all of the other top 4 designers for showing some growth. It's a testament to how beautiful this collection was that she almost won at all considering how it's basically the same stuff she's already shown them.


[Photo: David Russell/myLifetime.com - Screencaps: Projectrungay.blogspot.com]


Post a Comment
177 comments:

Oh my- all these Sunday posts. You're spoiling us. I love it!


I agree Wendy! I guess when there's 3 1/2 hours of PR to get through, you need lots of posts. Once again, you guys manage to bring the situation to a new light, which is what I love.


Well, to be fair, Korto didn't have as much time to grow as all the other designers did. Her season was the most recent.


I think she has involved as well as a designer.

Involved?


Ditto what Sarah says. It's not really fair to judge on growth when each designer has had different lengths of time away from the judges. Of course the designer from the earliest season would win it on that regard.


Ditto what Sarah and GabĂș said.


You are right about the judges expecting something new, except for the fact that they ripped Uli a new one for giving them something new. Sad.


"Rana said...

I think she has involved as well as a designer.

Involved?"


Seriously? That's your contribution? We've been posting nonstop for four days straight. Cut us a little slack.

When you write at least a thousand words a day for four days straight, typos happen.


T and Lo I would come clean your kitty's litter box for you if I only lived in commuter distance.
or
Cook you a delicious home cooked meal.


Oh, how I love Sunday posts!

I stated it before...but I really liked her dresses.

I didn't really notice her sourpuss attitude the first time I watched the show (a little, but I was so happy to be watching something PR related, I wasnt too focused), but on second viewing I did notice that they kept doing Korto voice overs bout how "I have to win this one."

I think the same thing happened to her in the edit that happened to "Sleepy Bear" Chris. The producers kept editing it in because of the "drama" it created.

Granted, she want too gracious when she lost, but in the heat of the moment, sometimes it's hard to hide your true feelings.

I dug her collection and accessories. Though...did she have her pantsuit model carry one of her bags instead of something from the sponsored "wall 'o accessories" ? 'Cause it sure looked like the one she showed earlier in the episode...and it looked great.


Gotta agree with previous comments. Her season was the most recent so it's not surprising her clothing is still similar (though still great) and Uli was criticized for changing so much. While Korto's outfits may not have been very different, all were beautiful, which I don't think I could say about any other designer.


I love Korto, especially her jewelry and accessories, but her clothes just don't speak to me. And I agree with those who are saying that it may not be fair to judge her on growth compared to designers from earlier seasons, but just because someone has more time to grow it doesn't automatically mean that they will grow the most or for the better! There was definitely some whack judging going on (ULI!) but truthfully, even up against Daniel, I would have been disappointed if Korto's collection won. Like lovely TLo pointed out, it just seemed too close to her Bryant Park collection. If she did notice/understand this did she really think that her work was really so good that she didn't need to do anything different to win this time around? Especially against more intense competition?


I have never understood the hype behind Korto's work. I think she has mad skills in sewing but I feel that her work (or a facsimile of) can easily be seen in the mall. Though I may not agree with Dan V's win (I prefer Uli's), I also do not feel the Korto was robbed. I think she has definite marketability but in this design competition, she is clearly edged out by other designers.


agree with everything you guys said!!! when it came out, i thought, gorgeous, but also... so similiar to her other work. the point of coming onto this show was to show something exciting, and Korto didn't really excite me. i noticed that even her model styling was similar to her first PR collection.
Uli should be the one feelling let down.


Whoops...I needed to proof!

Let's try "about" and "wasn't"


TLo don't listen to the bashing (I've been seeing it in every thread) as the co-writer of a blog I understand how hard it is to get something out that fast that is flawless in every way. We adore your blog and don't ever apologize for ANYTHING

I liked Korto's collection and I actually didn't really notice the lack of "newness" until you pointed it out, but you're right as usual. I would say its probably also due to the fact that they did love her Bryant Park collection so hard and that her season was the most recent.

Was she justified in the 'tude? Maybe, (in my humble opinion I think NOT) but it made her come off so poorly that she should have kept the whole tirade to herself.


I think it's always the kiss of death when the judges say that women will love your clothes and will want to wear them.


As always, incredibly insightful about how similar these looks are to her work during her PR run. Her clothes, though pretty, are not all the interesting. But then again, this may be just cup of tea. And I like mine conceptual.


The best thing about your post is getting a chance to see the dresses and think on them a bit. I have to say despite most of her items being very similar to what she does, in a toss up between her collection & Daniel's I still think hers was better. Now if Uli had been in the top 4 as she should have been, I would say Uli was robbed. Perhaps pair of the reason there's little growth from Korto is because her season was so recent.

But like it or not Daniel got the win. Let's hope we can move on to the new season now.

Thanks for all the fabulous post guys.


Agree with some here--I always thought Korto's stuff was very pretty--GREAT colors--but nothing too unusual. Same with this challenge, with the exception of the restaurant dress. THAT was gorgeous. But what does it say about a designer when her most innovative work was something she didn't plan to make but had to throw together at the last minute?

On another note, would I prefer:
(1) NO TLo posts unless they are perfectly typed or (2) as many posts as their tired little fingers could produce, typos and all? Hmmm...I pick (2). Thanks, guys, and keep them coming.


Great post! I agree with all of it. First, Korto had a bad attitude going in. Yes, she felt she should have won her season and in a different circumstance she would have, but the reality is that she didn't. Move on.
One of the things you didn't mention about Korto's BP collection was the dress that opened up on the runway, showing everything God gave the model. I'm sure that contributed to her loss, as well as the fact that Leanne just knocked it out of the park with her collection.
Getting to the All-Star show, she had to know there was some possibility she wouldn't win, but she was so full of herself that she said maybe they would apologize for not giving her the win last time and give it to her now. The bit of success she is enjoying now has gone right to her head. I really liked her collection. (well, not so much the pants set - it looked very much like a home sewing project) Yes, it was like her BP stuff, but it was still beautiful and I thought it was better than Daniel's, but her attitude turned me off so much that I actually hoped she wouldn't win, and I was glad when Daniel did.


Guys--
Thank you so much for all these posts. You are giving up your weekend and nights for our enjoyment and I simply cannot thank you enough.
LS


Thank you for the wonderful Sunday posts!! You boys are just too, too kind to us!! XOXO
I thought Korto's collection was beautiful. But when are the judges going to decide what they want and what they don't want?? As another poster mentioned, they criticized Uli for doing something different, and then turned around and criticized Korto for doing the same thing she has before. WTH???
Both Uli's and Korto's collections were terrific, period. I absolutely LOVE Korto's restaurant dress. Next to Chris' jackets and Uli's restaurant dress, it is one of my favs from the All Star challenge.
I guess Korto could have been more gracious, but in the light of the pure fug of DV's collection, I probably would have been less than gracious, also.


The necklace with the unconventional dress is absolutely STUNNING!!!

As for people complaining about her attitude, I seem to recall some posters saying the same stuff during her season. She doesn't have an attitude - She's just not a smiley person and certain people interpret that (for whatever reason) as unfriendly.

But I've met her, and in person she is very friendly and sweet. She just doesn't smile much.

I don't think she exhibited attitude of entitlement at all. She was just disappointed, that's all. And who wouldn't be disappointed losing out on a $100,000 prize?

--GothamTomato


Anon said "I feel that her work (or a facsimile of) can easily be seen in the mall." Can I have directions to that mall, please? Because my crap-ass mall doesn't contain anything nearly so stylish, and I'd LOVE to buy Korto's clothes!

I would have liked to see her outfits and Uli's side by side for the judges to compare. I'm still flabbergasted that Uli was aufed.


Her collection was my No. 3 (after Chris and Uli). Her attitude throughout the show (and not just in the post-decision interview) was what we in the parenting biz call a "teaching moment."

And that's all I'm going to say about that.


"Tlo said: When you write at least a thousand words a day for four days straight, typos happen."





You're not making typos: You are evolving as spellers and taking a more unconventional approach.

As an improvisational speller myself, I salute you!

--GothamTomato


Perhaps she was edited to sound this way, but I TOTALLY thought Korto sounded entitled and I wasn't that impressed with her designs. Listening to her first few moments on screen, "entitled" was the exact word that came to my mind.

Same stuff, different day.

Also, those pants fit beyond weird.


I completely understand Korto's reaction; after all the praise she got from the judges, she expected to win. I'd be pretty bitter if Daniel beat me; not so much if one of the others, i.e. Uli, did.

That said, I agree with MyFawny. There's nothing we can do about this injustice, so I think it's best to just pretend it never happened, try to get the bad taste out of our mouths, and move on. From what Tim has said, there will be plenty of judging decisions during the regular series to keep us outraged!

TLo, I think you may have found another copy editor in Rana. I'd like to say, as a person who evaluates writing for a living, that your writing is the cleanest and most correct of the blogs I read.


GothamTomato said...
The necklace with the unconventional dress is absolutely STUNNING!!!

As for people complaining about her attitude, I seem to recall some posters saying the same stuff during her season. She doesn't have an attitude - She's just not a smiley person and certain people interpret that (for whatever reason) as unfriendly.


ITA, as someone who says thing intended in a self depreciating way that is often mistaken for attitude.I didn't find Korto to be a sourpuss on now on during her season. I do believe both she and Chris were given exaggerated edits of their behavior.


TLo said:

"We've been posting nonstop for four days straight. Cut us a little slack."

Hear, hear! All this AND a new Mad Men to watch tonight so that you can post about that.

Your coffee maker must be getting quite the workout this weekend...

Meadow


First of all I liked Korto's clothes. Very well made overall and very pretty. With the restuarant dress as the highlight Certainly prettier than Daniels when comapred on an individual basis. However as a collection I really didn't see a strong cohesion or story or thread going through them. This is something you can argue about Uli's collection also.

To me whatever you think of Daniel's output there was a very defined thread and thought behind them conceptually. There was a clear story behind them. (Same with Sweet P and Chris'). I really dont think you could say that with the same conviction with Korto's.

Regardless the clothes were beautiful and she got extra exposure that can only help her in the long run. That being said, Korto has been shown to not handle rejection or criticism well during her season. It's somehting that has always rubbed me the wrong way in regards to her. For me it's annoying she remains so thin-skinned and takes it so personally. Even her statement that she needs to accept the outcome came across as a bit whiny. It's the 1 thing I feels she sets a poor example about to her daughter

Frank


I bow in humble gratitude for the embarrassment of riches you have showered upon us, TLo!

Your blog is a big part of what makes the return of PR such a huge event to crazy geeks like me. Thank you so much.

As for Miss Korto - I still have as much love for her as ever. I still loved all of her looks. Whatever sourness she may have shown didn't bother me - I noticed, cocked an eyebrow, but certainly don't think she was a bitch.

I do think she belonged in the top 4* but I don't think she was robbed. Uli and/or Chris were.

*I was out of town when the DannyV post went up, so have to shamelessly insert my comment on him here -- Yuck! WTH was that? One look out of 4 was good, BUT, I thought it was a Nancy O'Dell win - it's the dress NK would more likely wear. Yawn. I would have replaced him in F4 with Uli.


Ellen M said...
TLo, I think you may have found another copy editor in Rana. I'd like to say, as a person who evaluates writing for a living, that your writing is the cleanest and most correct of the blogs I read.



Best writing on a blog, if you ask me. It is kind of shitty that the ONLY thing you have to say after reading a post that probably took hours of work (I know because my boyfriend has a blog too)is that you made a typo, and in a rather sarcastic way. I guess she prefers her typo-less writing on a blog that nobody comments.


I LOVED Korto's collection. I think she should have won. Her restaurant challenge dress is gorgeous!


Sweeties, as annoyed as we get when commenters post only to correct typos or grammar (and seriously, you have NO IDEA just how much that annoys us), let's all play nice.

And thank you all for the comments of support.


I think what Korto doesn't have is "right timing": the timing for her to show in Bryan Park wasn't right, and it was not a right timeing for her to attend All-Star either. All other "stars" are from older seasons, they have planty of time to evolve. Korto does not have the time they have. I totally feel her.


I totally agree. While they were great pieces, they looked like the same things we've seen from her already. Then again this isn't necessarily a bad thing. I love the bottom of the black dress moreso then the top since that's my kinda style with dresses. I think the black and white print dress should've been her red carpet look.

Also, is it just me or does Korto never really seem excited about much? I mean I'm sure she's one of the sweetest people but she always looks kinda upset or something. And I mean even during her season she seemed that way so I don't chalk it up to the feeling that she had been robbed of the win from her season.


Didn't DVF smirk about how critcal that ONE look could be? Its fun judging the judges, I wonder if they ever listen to themselfs and cringe a little.I suppose we do trust them or we wouldn't keep coming back for more.


I love the tactful way you called out the "proofreader." Really, come on, it's one word in a whole long post with pictures and videos and a whole lot of thought. I love this blog and check it everyday!


Tamarama on 8/23/09 at 6:07 PM said...."it's the dress NK would more likely wear. Yawn. I would have replaced him in F4 with Uli."

Who is NK?

TampaBay


My guess is Nicole Kidman.


I meant critical, see the rest of us can't even type twenty words without messing up


I said it before and I'll say it again, had this been Laura, there would've been no complaints about being a "bitch".

Korto is pretty much no-nonsense when performing and isn't going to be grinning like an idiot. Sorry! It dosen't mean that she's a bad person. She was more interesting in tryig to make that money instead of taking up camera time or whooping up her character.
That's what Santino and Jeffrey were for.

Double standards abound, I wouldn't have been doing the running man if I came close to winning 100 grand and lost.


She was more interestED in tryiNg to make that money instead of taking up camera time, or whooping up her character.


There goes my corrections.


First of all, thanks for working so hard for us TLo!

I have a question I hope hope hope you can answer: Was Korto allowed to bring jewlery making supplies to the set? Or did they have all that stuff at Mood? There's no way she would have been allowed to bring stuff she had made beforehand, right? But those necklaces are just so obviously made by her!

Also, she was a jerk.


Anonymous said...
Also, she was a jerk.

8/23/09 6:40 PM


How? Because she had the GALL to be upset when she lost?


I would suspect that Korto might have been a better sport if Uli had won instead - but for her to lose to that shitty collection from Daniel? I would have been ticked too!

Note: Chris (over on BPR) had some things to say about the way he was edited - they conveniently left out the fact that he had food poisoning - so I take Korto's "bad attitude" with a bit of a grain of salt.

I understand it, it wouldn't have been the way I reacted, but damn Daniel's collection was fugly.


You know what... The more I look at it - with the exception of the restaurant dress - the more bored I get by it.

You nailed it, TLo, it's nothing we haven't seen before; and to be honest, I didn't think that vest & pants were well done anyway.

I don't think now it deserved 2nd place. IMHO Uli was first and Chris second.


" black magic woman said...

Note: Chris (over on BPR) had some things to say about the way he was edited "

He posted the same thing here.


Count me in the "sour" camp. I couldn't tell if she was really such a sore loser or if she was getting a bad edit, but either way, it was not fun to watch.

Initially, I thought it would be between Uli and Korto, and I'm sure she thought she had won, but rolling her eyes when she lost was so immature and rude.

I knew Korto would lose when everyone kept saying that women would love to wear her clothes. That's what they told Uli during her season. For some reason, they don't reward wearability, maybe because they want to skew toward high fashion rather than mass market.


I don't know if my opinions haven't been as strong as most posters lately, but I've just been torn over what exactly I wanted to say. I was excited the most at the beginning of the All-Stars to see what Korto, Uli and Chris would present. I was astonished that Uli was not in the top four.

I love Korto's aesthetic, in this challenge and in the Season 5 collection. I wanted her to win both times, although I was delighted for Leanne. Everyone keeps saying that Korto's collection was too similar to her BP collection. Well I guess if someone does pleats very well, has a great sense of color and print choices, makes interesting strap/shoulder treatments, and creates beautiful, chunky jewelry, and then does this in both collections, it's easy to see the similarity and her point of view. What I disagree with is the notion that so many posters have is that she is too repetitive and basically duplicated her looks. I think that she could have been the winner this time, and probably thought she was, based on the judges comments. Was she a sore loser? A bit, but being highly disappointed was understandable.

As for as the restaurant challenge, it's quite interesting that Korto was so successful here AND in the Saturn materials challenge with her seat belt coat. I always thought she was robbed there. It is inspiring to see someone think beautiful and unconventional. Uli's was beautiful too, but less innovative than Korto's, to me. Daniel's was hideous and clever in a bizarre, disturbing way. At the moment I don't even remember anyone elses.

Korto, please move on, you're FABULOUS. (I'll bet she already has.) I want to see what she creates for years to come.


The women rocked it out on Thursday night. They should have been top 3 plus Daniel.

I thought Daniel and Mychael should have won their seasons but they didn't and they didn't act nearly as entitled as Korto (who, btw, was my absolute favorite that night). Sincerity wins points with potential buyers and her attitude was abysmal. Also, the excuse some of you are giving regarding she didn't have as much time to evolve is kind of bogus. SHe did have at least 1 1/2 years and while it wasn't as much as others it certainly wasn't last week either.

Also, the free exposure all of them received was worth well more than $100K. That is if they weren't completely obnoxious.


I also want to add my thanks and a big cyber-hug to you guys for the ton of work you have done posting all these critiques. And you're just as clever if not more so running on little sleep and excess coffee!

MWAH!!!


I was actually hoping Daniel would win much on the basis of Korto's atrocious attitude. Even if she didn't have as much time to evolve, she is still expected (as was every other designer) to have range. I fully agree with TLo; she got to the top two because her clothes were gorgeous, but Daniel beat her because he was more creative and showed some different stuff. And, he didn't act like a jerk in the process.


Ellen M@5:53pm said, just pretend it never happened, try to get the bad taste out of our mouths, and move on. From what Tim has said, there will be plenty of judging decisions during the regular series to keep us outraged!

*applause*

Now, can someone instruct me on why Korto's lovely b&w print dress was not a "red carpet" worthy piece? It never occurred to me that the RED dress was the RCG.


Not that I remember too much of anything, but I wonder if some of the judging was based on how much each designer incorporated any criticisms made by the judges in the designer's original season on PR. I vaguely remember their telling DV that he tried to do too much and his collection wasn't cohesive. He obvioulsy paid attention to that for the all-star challenge.

I don't remember what comments they made about Uli's original collection (except for that Kiss of Death--women would want to wear it) but I do remember that she didn't use much print and she didn't win.


Delurking to say: thanks for churning out so many posts, even on a Sunday!

I was way impressed by Korto's use of the lava rocks; they could have looked like spilled cat litter so easily.


Thank you so much for the weekend posts, guys!

I so totally agree with your thoughts about Korto's collection.


I do think that the designers should have been told outright by Tim and Heidi that the judges would place such high emphasis on growth in the judging. You *know* that Korto, ever heedful of what the judges want, would have delivered.


Every chance I got this weekend, I refreshed your page to see if you had posted something new. And you did - again and again and again...

Thank you SO much for the insightful, witty, and damn funny posts that you churn out day-in and day-out like magic.

I seriously worry about you two. You're working so hard on our behalf. Are you getting enough sleep? Sunshine? Adult beverages?


Korto put on a good show, but as much as I don't think Daniel V. should have won, she was shouldn't have either. As you pointed out, we've seen most of these looks before from her. In fact, hers was probably the most familiar collection in the Challenge -- except maybe for the Santino collection, which was consistently gaudy and tacky as always.

I'm still not sure why she expected to be handed the win because she was "robbed" in Season 5. If she had been paying attention to the show, Daniel V. was the original "robbed" contestant, at least in his own mind. And the judges have been feeling guilty ever since and itching to toss him a bone. So, if anything, following her logic DV would be the more obvious winner.

I still think Uli was robbed blind, however.


On on the "she was rude/ no, she had the right to be disappointed" debate:

She was rude.

I watched the whole thing again today (THANK YOU MYLIFETIME.COM!) and was stunned. When Korto hugged Daniel, she didn't congratulate him, she said "Second again." It was like Korto expected Daniel to console her rather that take joy in his win with sincere congratulations from her! Then, as Heidi was auf'ing her, she turned on her heel abruptly, saying "Always a bridesmaid" and stalked off without any thank you or nice to see you again type comments.

Plus, early in the episode, she went on about how she should have won her season, and she came here to win this time. Whaaa? The evident bitterness and sense of entitlement were quite at odds with our view of her as very sweet and likeable. Underneath there percolates one helluva driven, competitive woman. That puts her tears during past judgings in new perspective for me. Like Laura Bennett, she cried in frustration as she worried about losing the challenges and getting bounced before the season's finale.

Good thing Laura didn't accept the invitation for this all-stars special. She and Korto are both so competitive that they would have had their claws out for each other and a monstrous catfight could have ensued. (Actually, too bad, because that REALLY would have been something to see. Wendy Pepper and Kara Saun would pale in comparison to the Cold War these two could conduct.)

TLo, you hit it right on the mark that Korto's red carpet gown wasn't all that much. While I did like the restaurant challenge dress, two of the four garments did have issues.


None of the original 3 finalists had the best final collection in Season 2. Kara Janx (decoy) did. I think hers was one of the most gorgeous innovative collections to go down the runway of any PR contestant.(And if I remember correctly, Tlo loved it as well.)

I know this is totally off topic, but I wonder if she felt robbed.


When I see Korto's clothes up close (thanks for the screen shots) I am just in love. They are so gorgeous. I love her color sense.


Also, just have to say I am flabbergasted that IMO two of the best looks of the entire show were from the Restaurant Challenge! My god, Korto and Uli must be part magician.

I don't know what to think about Korto's behavior. I try to keep myself from getting too caught up in the morality play aspect of PR, because despite its moniker as reality tv - as we all know - it is still fiction.

Anyway, I really like her and love her stuff.


Why don't designers use sleeves in their designs? Is it because they're too time consuming? If I were a judge, I'd dock points for the lack of sleeves. I mean, who wants to go around in a modified tube top, however chic, all the time?

I've read this blog for years and have never posted before... but the lack of sleeves really irks me. Just sayin'.


"Mouse said: Good thing Laura didn't accept the invitation for this all-stars special. She and Korto are both so competitive that they would have had their claws out for each other and a monstrous catfight could have ensued."




Oh please. Given that neither Laura nor Korto ever got into any catfights with anyone, nor did anything duplicitous, on either of their seasons, that's a bizarro stretch of an odd imagination to make that claim.

As for being competitive, anyone who shoots for a career in NYC, or in anything as high powered as fashion, sure better be competitive or they have no business being there. A bigtime career is not for the faint of heart and there's nothing wrong with being competitive.

--GothamTomato


My first comment when I saw Korto's pants outfit was "Olympics challenge." Followed up by "that crotch is insane." I wouldn't have picked DV to win, but that look from Korto was such a dud - without the excuse of it coming from restaurant materials - that I think it took her out of contention for the win.


I would have put Uli and Korto at the top (in that order). I only wish Korto had taken her cue from Santino... he so understands that this is a reality television show with the producers with the last word and all set in the superficial world of "beautiful people." Although I don't think he has as much design talent as Uli or Korto, he used his reappearance for what he could given the ridiculous standards of this show. Korto said Daniel "was certainly cuter than [her]," and with that comment she pointed a finger at how "subjective" (to quote Santino) fashion, let alone reality television is. Unfortunately, vapid mags like Marie Clare isn't ready to feature non-standard beauties/designers like Korto. That is part of the decision and it's foolish for designers to overlook that. I got another look at Uli's and Korto's designs. for that I'm thankful. I will try to buy from both of them.


I knew Korto would lose when everyone kept saying that women would love to wear her clothes.

LOL, that's the first thing I thought of, too. They said almost the exact same thing to her right after she was auf'd at the end of Season 5 as well... something about "you know what women want. Bye!"

When they said it to her again, it just sounded like the preamble to another "auf".


And they used that "you makes clothes that women want to wear" as a kiss-off to Uli in S3. Apparently, that's a terrible thing for a designer to do!

Another kiss of death: When the judges commend your clothes as "beautifully made." See Laura in S4 finale and Korto here. That 1-2 "your clothes are beautifully made and women will want to wear them" is how I knew she was out.

-- CAAF


GothamTomato said...
The necklace with the unconventional dress is absolutely STUNNING!!!

As for people complaining about her attitude, I seem to recall some posters saying the same stuff during her season. She doesn't have an attitude - She's just not a smiley person and certain people interpret that (for whatever reason) as unfriendly.

But I've met her, and in person she is very friendly and sweet. She just doesn't smile much.


Gotham, you and I will always disagree on whether Laura accusing Jeffrey behind his back was duplicitous. I believe that she was sneaky and nasty to have handled her suspicions the way she did.

Combine that personality with Korto's smoldering anger and frustration at not having won, and their two ultra-competitive personalities could make for some spectacular fireworks. And if not outright fireworks, then some of the nastiest snark for the camera that we've ever seen.

Dang, that would have been interesting.


crap, I meant to RESPOND to GothamTomato, not repost his post...

just that I don't think she has a bad attitude because she doesn't smile (I know too many Russians to believe that!). I think she has a bad attitude because of what she said. I'm sure she's very nice in person but she came off as a major bitch during the episode. Yeah, part of that was probably editing but you still have to take into consideration that she practically said that Leanne's collection was crap. Just not my cup o' tea when it comes to personality and response.


"anon said: I only wish Korto had taken her cue from Santino... he so understands that this is a reality television show with the producers with the last word and all set in the superficial world of "beautiful people.""





Santino is the last person any of the designers should take cues from. He was so busy with his affected and egomaniacal performing for the cameras, that he forgot to design anything decent for the competition. He seems to have thrown his lot in with being a reality show personality, rather than a designer.

Korto is obviously more interested in being a designer.

It's also rather funny that anyone would think that Korto, somehow, has a bad attitude and yet holds out Santino as a positive antithesis to that. Korto may not have been able to mask her disappointment as well as she could, but Santino is just behaved like an ass.

--GothamTomato


"I knew Korto would lose when everyone kept saying that women would love to wear her clothes."

You know, maybe there's something there. I know as soon as I think oooh I would So wear that, Heidi is kissing that designer good bye.

Most of the clothing that the judges drool over are things that I don't get, don't like, would never wear...and then they v..e..r..y slowly grow on me, because they are new and different. If I like them right off the bat, they must not be too innovative. (I did not like Jay's, Jeffrey's or Christian's collections at all, until some time went by.)

Yes, I'm just one of the "women."


I can understand why Korto was upset not to have won. (In psychology, it is called counterfactual thinking, and refers to thoughts and feelings that occur when you think about unchosen or unobtainable options. Counterfactual thinking is more intense if the alternative outcome was more likely. Thus, Korto likely felt worse at having come in second, than she would have being in the bottom 4.)

But that aside, I hope she becomes more proud of her achievement with time. I found it very notable that prior finalists (e.g., Mychael) and a former winner (Jeffrey) were in the bottom 4 (deservedly so, IMHO). Those designers are clearly talented, but its suggests that their prior PR achievements were more of the exception rather than the rule. By contrast, Daniel and Korto showed that they could turn out really quality, visionary stuff on a consistent basis.


GothamTomato
8/23/09 5:48 PM

"Tlo said: When you write at least a thousand words a day for four days straight, typos happen."

You're not making typos: You are evolving as spellers and taking a more unconventional approach.

As an improvisational speller myself, I salute you!

--GothamTomato

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't think former copy editors are allowed to evolve as spellers! Correctness is in their genes!

BTW, I have always been impressed at how literate and correct TLo posts are, even when they are indulging in slang and casual expression it all flows without the many common misspellings and malapropisms and even simple typos that most blogs and posters fall prey to. And I am always happy that they tolerate all of our mistakes.


See, here's the thing. Whether the designers won or not, they were given 2 hours of free publicity. Other people (many of whom buy clothes) were watching.Now, if I'm thinking about going to Korto to design something for me, after seeing her behavior (whether justified or not),I'd think again before I did business with her.


I liked Korto's pants outfit (though it wasn't perfect) and the print dress best, closely followed by the restaurant dress. Overall, I liked these even better than her Bryant Park collection.

I think she simply was unguarded and expressed her natural disappointment. And I didn't mind it. We were just complaining (a little) about how much less interesting this competition was because the contestants were more guarded about how they might come across (be edited?) on television.

Whether it was such a sin not to verbally congratulate DV in her moment of disappointment, depends a lot on how friendly the two are. If they are on pretty friendly terms, I'd say he understood and was perfectly happy with it.

So yeah, she's not going to win the Royal Family Ironclad Graciousness Award - but I didn't think she was as terrible as some here did.


My heart's with Chris March, but between Danny V. and Korto, I would've chosen Korto. You're right; it was basically the stuff she showed at Bryant Park, which cost her the win. Whatever.

But might I say how strange it was that so many designers made a red carpet look that just as easily could've been a going out to lunch look? Short dresses are in, of course, but why not even bother trying a gown? Like, a real, honest-to-god gown?


Thank you so much for these thoughtful posts, particularly over the weekend! I truly appreciate all the time you put into this blog.


I liked Korto's collection better than Daniel's so if those are the two finalists, Korto wins in my book. Maybe she didn't evolve as much as DV, but evolution isn't always a good thing because Daniel's led him to Fugland.

As for Korto's attitude, I can chalk up Korto's comments on losing the All-Stars to the disappointment of the moment, and what was probably her befuddlement that Daniel's collection beat her. It was a definite WTF moment. Her comments about losing Season 5 and Daniel being cuter than Leanne are a different story though. The judges didn't make a mistake in Season 5 that needed fixing. Leanne's collection was gorgeous and she was a worthy winner. Korto hurts only herself in refusing to be gracious about it. She needs to stop holding a grudge.


Perhaps Korto got the megabitch edit to sway support away from her and to Danny V?


TheNYCourier said: But might I say how strange it was that so many designers made a red carpet look that just as easily could've been a going out to lunch look?


I thought the same thing - it's not immediately obvious which look is the red carpet look in many of these collections.

Not that this is likely, but if I was to ever BE on a red carpet . . . I'd like to have worn Mychael's (probably spelled that wrong) fuschia dress. Well, what I'd REALLY like to wear would be Laura Bennet's long silver grey dress with the chartreuse belt.


Wow you guys are really spoiling us! Thank you for all the time you're putting in to analyze the shows.

It all comes down to, as you said, what the judges want to reward that day, and what they had in mind was Daniel's collection. Her clothes were lovely but just not what they wanted. I wonder how Korto would have done on The Fashion Show?


Well, it makes sense to me that her collection was the most similar to her BP collection since, aside from Sweet P, she had the least amount of time to grow.

-E


Ha, I just started reading the comments and it looks like Sarah had the exact same thought as me. Great minds!

-E


ps. THANK YOU TLO for taking time out of your fabulous schedule(s) for this round of magnificent posts. I know I speak for a lot of people when I say it's really brightened my weekend.

You ladies rock! :)

-E


i'm not dorothy gale

You boys are just the BEST. I imagine you with bare cupboards, totally exhausted, your eyes bloodshot, your brains buzzing with fashionfashionFASHION, trudging out to get groceries. Sleep? No! Recreation? No! As Wendy said you ARE spoiling us with all these posts. Thank you, sweeties!

I must admit I wasn't overly impressed with Korto's designs although the third and fourth were wonderful. And really, you don't know if her comments were echoed by others who didn't win but were edited out. Korto is a very talented woman and I hope she does well.


Ya, I was kinda shocked at Korto's negative attitude. Now that I think about it though, it must have burned to lose to Daniel's. His collection wasn't "new or unconventional". It was stuff I can find at Target, that I would wear to the gym.


Ah, when you put it that way, it does make sense. Though I agree with Sarah that there's been far less time between Korto's season and everyone else's.

Still, Korto's clothing makes me want to reach out and touch each piece, to try it on, to just feel the fabric on my skin.

And her final look, from the restaurant, the back is just delicious.


The thinking behind them not going over the top with a ball gown for the red carpet may have been, given they had so litte time to complete 3 (later + 1) looks they were more interested in completing flawless dresses, rather than rushed messes which are often seen (pr epi 1 season 6).
In my opinion Korto's collection was very well designed and executed. She and Uli are the only ones that didn't do a throw away for the suprise challenge. Amounst the finalist that the judges picked I was sure she would win. Amoungst the entire group it was Uli.


This is a rare occasion when I am going to disagree with Gotham Tomato.

Santino didn't behave like an ass.

Santino IS an ass.


I can really empathize with Korto's anger at losing to Daniel. She makes beautiful clothes, and they are wonderfully made. His collection was hideous clothes, and some of them looked very sloppily made, not even proper undergarments. Blech. As someone said above, if she had lost to Uli or even Chris, maybe she wouldn't have been so upset, but to lose to that hot mess than Daniel called a collection and the judges got hot flashes over - that would piss me off too.


Way before the runway show, Korto stunned me with her comments about Leanne (though never saying her name, of course). I should have won. Everyone in America says I should have won. Wow. Daniel did say anything like that. Uli didn't even say anything like that! Before Korto made a stitch, she was already exhibiting an attitude that stunned me and turned me off.


Thanks TLO for the updates!
Sigh, what more can be added? Im still sad that neither Korto nor Uli won, and yes I think they were robbed however much I love Daniel. For me, their clothes were way way better than Daniel's.
But Im letting go. Im sure Korto and Uli have better things to do than stay bitter over the results. They are very good designers and Im looking forward to other news about what they are up to now.
On to the new season and here's looking forward to more ripping!


When the pantsuit came down the runway I thought it was amazing. I didn't realize that it was tweed. Now that I see it up close (PLEASE, new network, SHOW THE CLOTHES UP CLOSE!!!!) the tweed *does* introduce some fit issues that otherwise wouldn't be there, and it IS too heavy for the look.

God would I love it in a lighter material though.


The model for the first dress looks so familiar. Has she been on the show?


I loved the pantsuit thinking at first it was a fabulous jumpsuit and was for some reason horrified to realize it was two pieces and that was the model's stomach and not a brown belt. It was pretty but made the torso a pinch short.

We could all feel Korto's seething rage as everyone was hugging Daniel and she was forcefully pushing her hands in her pockets like her dress was gonna pop off like a fourth of July celebration.


Y'know, I was thinking about it, and the problem with Korto's response to being 2nd again (at least for me)was that she focused her frustration and bitterness on the designer who beat her rather than who was really to blame, the judges. Leanne and Daniel did nothing wrong. If Korto (and any of us) feel that she was robbed, it is the judges who are to blame, not Daniel (though I disliked his designs).

I think that the judges' saying, "Your designs are what women want" or "Women will really wear these designs" are condescending comments that mean that "the unwashed masses" will understand and like the designs. There is also an element of "these designs are flattering and practical" for those much-maligned "real women." Though it shouldn't be, I think they are damning the designs with what they consider to be "faint praise." (Ironic in Kors's case.)


While I rarely agree entirely with the judges (the only winning decision I've agreed with is Leanne's), I am thoroughly fed up with people who refuse to attempt to look at collections objectively and simply trash a designer if s/he is not their chosen one. I could argue for Daniel, Chris, Korto, or Uli being the winner and I think it's ridiculous that contributors feel they have to trash the collections of others in order to support the collection of the person they prefer. I know that's customary on other blogs; I thought the contributors on this one were a little more civil. Thanks, btw, to TLo for their commentary and for providing the additional access to the collections that at least theoretically allows readers to make more informed comments.


"if she had lost to Uli or even Chris, maybe she wouldn't have been so upset, but to lose to that hot mess than Daniel called a collection and the judges got hot flashes over - that would piss me off too." -- but she lost to Leanne her first go-round. THAT collection was not a hot mess, so I have to believe she's just a sore loser. It bothers me that she fails to see that there were 8 talented designers (well, 7 at least) and she should be proud she came in 2nd among them instead of all the sour grapes about not winning. If she's entitled to be angry, then how must Uli feel? Uli was a gracious loser who had alot more reason to feel discounted.

I liked Korto's collection, I like her clothes, but I'm really losing my love for her when I hear her whining about not winning. Suck it up, Korto -- learn to be more gracious.


She acted like a total bitch before they even set foot on the runway. I really hated her little digs at Leanne and her boasting about her Google hits and how everyone thought she should have won. She showed some beautiful clothes at Bryant Park but it wasn't in the same league as Leanne's stunning collection. And apparently most of the people in the tent felt that Leanne should have won, from what I've heard. I can understand her disappointment in losing to DV's fugly mall wear and between the two I would certainly have given her the win. But her collection would have been third, behind Uli and Chris, if I had been choosing. Has she done serious damage to herself with her pissy attitude? Who knows? We'll have to see. But I know that I have no interest in hearing from her again.


"And they used that "you makes clothes that women want to wear" as a kiss-off to Uli in S3."

This was also the kiss of death for Jillian Lewis during her season. I'm all for creativity but women also need something to, like, WEAR from time to time.


Ok, Im letting go, letting go....


guess Korto could have been more gracious, but in the light of the pure fug of DV's collection, I probably would have been less than gracious, also.

-----
I don't think she exhibited attitude of entitlement at all. She was just disappointed, that's all. And who wouldn't be disappointed losing out on a $100,000 prize?

--GothamTomato



As Agnes Gooch and MouseAnony also pointed out, her attitude was throughout the entire show - not just after judging. From "My 100,000" prize, and on and on

Her work was good but it seems like a LOT of people do not think she was robbed.


Great point Texas Twister!! I keep thinking when I had been looking for formal attire, how they are always sleeveless or strapless. Come one show creativity.


Yes PR All-Stars was fixed, but I don't think that it was clear that Korto was the rightful winner, and she for doggone sure wasn't the rightful winner of PR 5. The judges have a weird fixation with Daniel V, but at the same time they have an equally weird inability to appreciate Uli's (and to a lesser degree) Chris March's talents.


I love her stuff and I think she's one of the most talented designers ever to come out of PR. But I keep wondering why she thinks that winning is the only way to prove to her daughter that she can do anything and follow her dreams?

In my mind, Korto's already won, simply by being great at what she does. Why does she so desperately need a panel of judges and producers to validate that?


Why does she so desperately need a panel of judges and producers to validate that?

Well on that point I'd have to side with Korto. It does suck to be told "YOU ROCK, Your work if FAB, People love your work" - and then watch someone who's flaws were glaring, but ignored get the honor and the money. Seriously, many of us have been in our own version of that and it does suck.

In this case though, if the judges had more clearly OR FAIRLY critiqued their work and the judged accordingly, it would have helped.


I loved Korto's clothes although it was missing that cohesive element between the looks. Uli should have been in the top four and perhaps even won. Chris did an amazing job and was deservedly in the top tier. Daniel's clothes just didn't do a thing for me except for the premier dress and it was nice but nothing to win the whole shebang. Except for the one dress the rest of his outfits weren't even sewn that well.

I feel like the judging on this show is sometimes like figure skating. It has so much subjective allowances there's just no one set formula to figure out what makes a winner and someone else come in second. I don't quite understand why the producers have a say in the outcome; I think the professionals should decide.

I think Korto is generally a nice person and the pressure she put on herself to redeem the loss from BP got to her. By the end with the judging and the mixed signals of all the praise and then the ultimate loss, the stress and exhaustion won out over good manners. She just needs to pull a Jennifer Hudson and smoke them all with her talent and successes despite not winning the big prize. She has the talent and the creativity for designing not only clothes but jewelry and accessories. I wish her the best.


A nice collection, but also a bit boring, nothing new and in my eyes not a winner.
I didn't like her restaurant dress as much as I liked Uli's.


In regards to Korto's attitude, you know I can understand disappointment - and really who wouldn't be, but in the process of constantly stating she should have won, she is really doing a disservice to Leanne, who deserved the win as much, if not more so then Korto. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose... that's life. She didn't get the gran prize, but trust me being the 2nd place winner was pretty good for her.

I think that she does beautiful work - but not beautiful enough for her sense of entitlement


"ASK said...
guess Korto could have been more gracious, but in the light of the pure fug of DV's collection, I probably would have been less than gracious, also."




You re-posted this (above) as if I had said it.

I did not say this.

--GothamTomato


Scarlet
8/23/09 9:17 PM Perhaps Korto got the megabitch edit to sway support away from her and to Danny V?


Something along that light might have happened.

How come the issue of editing is barely mentioned here when it comes to Korto? Believe me, everyone would be saying it had it been Laura, Uli, even Kenley.

The criteria behind these judgments about Korto are quite obvious.


Sewing Siren on 8/23/09 at 10:48 PM said...In my opinion Korto's collection was very well designed and executed. She and Uli are the only ones that didn't do a throw away for the suprise challenge.

@SewingSiren, I really liked Chris's "suprise challenge" garment too! Then again, I am partial to anything that resembles 1947 Dior. Thought Chris did a great job along with Uli & Korto.

TampaBay


Anonymous said...
Has she done serious damage to herself with her pissy attitude? Who knows? We'll have to see. But I know that I have no interest in hearing from her again.

8/24/09 12:30 AM



And I'm sure that she would be devastated by this proclaimation.


MouseAnony
8/23/09 7:53 PM On on the "she was rude/ no, she had the right to be disappointed" debate:

She was rude.



FOH. Just because Cousin Jeffrey didn't win...


TampaBay said...


@SewingSiren, I really liked Chris's "suprise challenge" garment too! Then again, I am partial to anything that resembles 1947 Dior. Thought Chris did a great job along with Uli & Korto.




I didn't hate Chris collection, in fact I loved what he did with the plaid wool, especially the red carpet dress. But the restaurant look kind of stood out like a sore thumb. Too costumey (in my opinion) and he used the materials "as is" so to speak. Korto and Uli transformed their materials into something else and it was hard to tell which one was the unconventional dress on the runway.


Ellen M said...
I think that the judges' saying, "Your designs are what women want" or "Women will really wear these designs" are condescending comments that mean that "the unwashed masses" will understand and like the designs. There is also an element of "these designs are flattering and practical" for those much-maligned "real women." Though it shouldn't be, I think they are damning the designs with what they consider to be "faint praise." (Ironic in Kors's case.)
---

True dat. Chloe's win is the only exception.


Anonymous said...

How come the issue of editing is barely mentioned here when it comes to Korto? Believe me, everyone would be saying it had it been Laura, Uli, even Kenley.


I most certainly do think that the editing manipulates the viewers. And that they play the interviews in a different order than they are given. And I wouldn't trust the editors of Project Runway if they said the grass was green.
I think the fact that Korto donated a beautiful necklace to the readers of this site speaks volumes about her generosity and sportsmanship.

But it's kind of pointless to go on about it. I would rather talk about her collection. Right?


Gotham Tomato said:
ASK said...
guess Korto could have been more gracious, but in the light of the pure fug of DV's collection, I probably would have been less than gracious, also."




You re-posted this (above) as if I had said it.

I did not say this.

--GothamTomato

8/24/09 6:38 AM

------------
Let me clear this up!! I said it!!
:)


TLo -- I just want to thank you guys for working so hard on these posts for us. Working on the weekend is never fun, even if it is for something as deliciously awesome as this blog. They really did throw a ton of material at you at once!

I really like Korto's black and white dress, but there really isn't anything stunningly inovative about it. It is just pretty. Something you could find at White House, Black Market. Her jewelry was the most interesting thing in her collection and the judges ignored it. I guess they had to though b/c she created it before the show.


bitchybitchybitchy

floretbroccoli said...
I think it's always the kiss of death when the judges say that women will love your clothes and will want to wear them.

8/23/09 5:35 PM

After watching all 5 seasons of PR, this statement is the kiss of death for a designer- Nina said it to Uli during the judging of season's 3 finale, and the judges said the same thing to Korto in Season five.

I think that once Korto puts her anger at losing the all-star challenge behind her that she'll be fine. There definitely is a market for her clothes, and her jewelry.


I think part of Korto's frustration was legitimate. The people who designed this special didn't think through the challenge.

First, the designers get instructions to do a collection. Then, after they've already bought their fabric and started cutting and sewing, they're told that one of the looks has to be red carpet worthy. So, already anybody who chose fabrics for more casual looks is already cursing and screaming inside. THEN, they get a restaurant challenge thrown at them.

Interestingly, nobody seems to have thought of whether the restaurant challenge garment could also have qualified as the red carpet dress.

I mean, why the heck not?

Instead, the judges forced both Uli and Korto to say which of the OTHER outfits was the red carpet look. They then proceeded to criticize Korto because her restaurant dress was actually more red carpet worthy than her actual red carpet dress. Why couldn't she have been allowed to designate IT as the red carpet dress?

Perhaps that's why Korto was so frustrated -- it's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back. But even if she and Uli could have designated their restaurant dresses as the red carpet entry, I think Daniel still would have won. But maybe Korto wouldn't have been so pissed?


You're exactly right. Obviously we can't expect Korto to completely change her design aesthetic in 1.5 years, and lets face it why should we since she has a very nice style. But this goes beyond that, they could be part of the same collection. There's having a signature and then there's recycling of the same ideas and I think Korto veered a bit close to recycling here. It was a beautiful collection but I wouldn't have judged it a winner either. In fact I thought both Chris and Uli showed more interesting new ideas.

I don't blame her for a disappointed outburst after she lost, things can be said in the heat of the moment. It was her comments about Leanne's win that left an extremely bad taste in my mouth.


korto makes great clothes. i agree that you can't expect her to have evolved as much as the other designers - she has had the least time to evolve (since her season finished) and sadly she is still upset about her loss. it must be very sad and frustrating - god knows i hold a grudge and get angry over things like this - but i hope she finds the strength to move on and she achieves her own success. i definitely support korto and her clothes!

i loved ulis old style and i love her new style. i want to see a mix of both. i don't get the daniel v love at all. the red carpet dress was great but i am just not a fan of the rest of his stuff.


ggbg31
8/23/09 5:52 PM Perhaps she was edited to sound this way, but I TOTALLY thought Korto sounded entitled and I wasn't that impressed with her designs. Listening to her first few moments on screen, "entitled" was the exact word that came to my mind.

=========
Ding ding ding ding ding. I call "backwards editing" on this. The moment Korto stood on the runway and complained that she always comes in second, producers raced back to their editing bays to isolate every moment where she complained about almost winning the last time.

===
And as typos go, these are the things to be expected when Lorenzo makes Tom unload the groceries while he posts to the blog. Weekend multitasking will get you everytime. Believe me...sewing while fielding phone calls for a party leads to lots of seam ripping later on.


Korto is/was entitled to be disappointed, but she should have thought about her words and actions and should not have gone in expecting a win. The reality of it is that she was on a reality show, and she knows that they edit things to suit their needs not the designer and she should have been more mindful of giving them material to use that would give her such a piss poor attitude.

Anyone in the public eye should think of these things, especially an up and coming designer who is relying on gaining popularity and making sales to grow her business. Her attitude right there makes me not to ever want to buy of her designs since she feels so "entitled".


Sewing Siren, just noticed your new sketch - if only Mitchell had had such a thought!


I loved the tweed but the crotch on those pants is insane. Maybe if it was a side fly instead of in front? The pants fit like a dream in the back.

I don't think that Korto behaved inappropriately or ungraciously. She was disappointed and a little pissed off. That seems the most "real" on a reality show that I've seen in awhile.

Tlo, thanks for all the posts. Please go out and get some fresh air and vitamin D and cocktails! (not necessarily in that order!)


Jen Ell
8/24/09 9:53 AM Her attitude right there makes me not to ever want to buy of her designs since she feels so "entitled".

And I'm sure she'll be devastated because of that. LOL!


Sewing Siren
8/24/09 8:24 AM
But it's kind of pointless to go on about it. I would rather talk about her collection. Right?


I would rather talk about the collection myself. However, I'm never one to shy from calling out someone's bullshit.

Looking at all of the insults hurled at Korto because she didn't shuck and jive for the cameras is just that, bullshit.

Jillian railed after her loss, and she was just "frustrated".

Kenley acted like a nightmare, but "it was all edited".

Korto expressed disappointment about the loss, and she's a "bitch", "entitled" and "sour".

This was the same "bitter", "entitled" person who donated a prize for the TLounge.


Mousew Anony - WHICH ONE WAS ULI's dress?
I still don't know and I watch the show again and neither Uli or Korto said which one was RC.

GT calm down - geesh whoever posted that anything sounds like criticism of you is what's edited may not be far off. I grabbed two quotes by two posters implying that Korto'sm attitude came only after she came in second and didn't go back after finding yours and make the other attribution(?) so I tried to break it up with the dashes.
As others also noted it did not appear that her comments were only made after the judging:
As Agnes Gooch and MouseAnony also pointed out, her attitude was throughout the entire show - not just after judging. From "My 100,000" prize, and on and on


i had to wait till monday a.m. to get caught up on my TLO posts. LOVE THEM ALL. i appreciate being able to actually see the dresses up close.

is anyone having trouble with lifetime's website? i cant seem to open it.

HAPPY MONDAY BOYS!
xo


"ASK said...

GT calm down - geesh whoever posted that anything sounds like criticism of you is what's edited may not be far off."

All she did was point out that you mistakenly attributed a quote to her. Hardly any reason to tell someone to calm down. The least you could have done was own up to the mistake.


Had no chance to throughly read/comment over the weekend (as if anybody missed me!).

FWIW I didn't think that Korto came off as entitled, witchy with a "b," sour, etc. Let's face it, TLo, minions, none of us knows these people at all. If anything, I congratulate her for being real on camera. Whether or not you agree that she should have been one of the last 2 standing (whacky!), losing to Daniel V's mess would make anybody truly disappointed.

As so many others have said better than I can, the whole thing looks to have been done in order to give a lot of money to Daniel V, which pissed me off, and I can only imagine the feelings of the others. It was bull, the whole thing.

Carry on!


This comment has been removed by the author.

Mary - Self flaggelation really is not called for is it?

I explained what I did was an editing error
"I grabbed two quotes by two posters implying that Korto's attitude came only after she came in second and didn't go back after finding yours and make the other attribution(?) so I tried to break it up with the dashes."

...of course she didn't address the that her comment was contradicted by the facts as I and AgnesGooch and MouseAnony also noted.

I don't think she exhibited attitude of entitlement at all. She was just disappointed, that's all. And who wouldn't be disappointed losing out on a $100,000 prize?
which was contradicted by Korto's numerous comments that appeared to run throughout the competition, not just after she didn't win. "MY $100,000", etc....

So either she made entitled sounding comments throughout OR she made them ALL after (and that would not be better, since I think there were at least 5 different incidents).

But as I posted later - the ridiculous judging largely contributed to her attitude. Constantly heaping praise on her and ignoring all of the shortcomings of Daniel's and ignoring Uli's successes.


For the record, I like Korto's clothes and I like Korto and I refuse to hurl stones at her "behavior."


Each of the four finalists deserved to be there. There was something in each of their collections that struck me a interesting or wearable, even Daniel V's. I was happy for all of them.

Korto's black dress was sensational, maybe even enough to win, but the judges decided that the other collection was more cohesive. Korto is talented and will have women running to wear her clothes. I don't think she is a bitch or has a rotten attitude, yet she could have congratulated Daniel before she stomped off the runway. That's all, or else the editors deliberately cut to her departure. If the latter is the case, shame on them for making a not so great situation look even worse.


"Mary Louise said: All she did was point out that you mistakenly attributed a quote to her. Hardly any reason to tell someone to calm down. The least you could have done was own up to the mistake."




Thank you.

Yes, owning up would be the order of the day (instead of trying to misdirect attention away from her own issue with an inane attack).

--GothamTomato


" ASK said...

Mary - Self flaggelation really is not called for is it?"

That makes no sense whatsoever.

"I explained what I did was an editing error"

This also is meaningless. I responded because you told someone to calm down and insulted them for no reason.


Crazy crazy comments.

You guys... Korto came super-close to winning $100,000 *twice*. In the space of less than a year.

How are we supposed to know how any of us would react to that?

Let's get over ourselves and stop judging her reaction to such an extreme situation.


Jen Ell said...

Anyone in the public eye should think of these things, especially an up and coming designer who is relying on gaining popularity and making sales to grow her business. Her attitude right there makes me not to ever want to buy of her designs since she feels so "entitled.
"

I think this is the most annoying and nonsensical thing that everybody here always assumes. In the real world, people generally have no idea who designed their clothing or what their disposition is like. They buy what they like. LIFE IS NOT A PR EPISODE. MOST DESIGNERS ARE SELLING DESIGNS, NOT THEMSELVES. Why oh why does everybody think you need to act like a saintly kindergarten teacher to get ahead?!


When I watched Korto's collection come down the runway I thought it was beautiful but exactly the same dress with minor alterations ( i.e. different strap placement, color, etc). I believe Korto is extremely talented but can be one note. Her accessories on the other hand are unique and fabulous.
I prefer to believe that rather than being an actual bitch, Korto received the "bitch edit".


"Anonymous said...

I think this is the most annoying and nonsensical thing that everybody here always assumes. In the real world, people generally have no idea who designed their clothing or what their disposition is like. They buy what they like. LIFE IS NOT A PR EPISODE. MOST DESIGNERS ARE SELLING DESIGNS, NOT THEMSELVES. Why oh why does everybody think you need to act like a saintly kindergarten teacher to get ahead?!"

I don't see any evidence that anyone here thinks a designer needs to act like a "saintly kindergarten teacher." As for the rest of your comments, they do nothing but reveal your naivete about entrepreneurial endeavors of any form. A struggling designer is going to have to deal and meet with investors, buyers, vendors of various forms, tradespeople of various forms, the press, and the public. A bad attitude is going to seriously hamper their attempts.

Personally, I don't think Korto acted that badly, but the larger point is still correct. Past contestants like Kara Janx, Emmett McCarthy, Austin Scarlett, Daniel Vosovic, Joe Faris, Leanne Marshall and even Christian Siriano have all done fairly well all things considered and not coincidentally, they all have fairly good personalities. Difficult people like Santino, Jeffrey, Wendy, and even Laura Bennett have not exactly gone on to greater things in the fashion world.


ASK
8/24/09 10:59 AM
So either she made entitled sounding comments throughout OR she made them ALL after (and that would not be better, since I think there were at least 5 different incidents).

But as I posted later - the ridiculous judging largely contributed to her attitude. Constantly heaping praise on her and ignoring all of the shortcomings of Daniel's and ignoring Uli's successes.



Which is something that you don't know. Were you there? Are you PA?

Just because you want Korto to be the worst person alive dosen't mean it happened that way. So let's ease up on the assumptions.


Right. Again: there are no assholes in business. None. Anywhere. Only nice people are successful. It's true, because I learned it in Sunday School.


Hint: Investors care if you make them money, not if you're Suzy Sunshine with a smile plastered on your face, emphasizing the JOY behind your clothes.


Oh. Hi Bailey. I see you're back to your strawman argument ways.


You've helped me see why Korto didn't win, and shouldn't have won. If we use the criteria of "growth and evolution," then you're right. But she's had the shortest amount of time away from PR, so this criteria seems rather harsh to use on her. That is her own bad luck, I suppose.

Given this perspective, Uli should DEFINITELY have won. Now I am even more riled up than I was before. Oh well. It is just a silly tv show. I need to get over it.


I really like the color of Korto's first dress, but seeing it here it looks a little sloppy and wrinkly. Maybe it doesn't photograph well due to the material. When I first saw it on the runway tho I lurved it at first sight.

I didn't love her stank attitude but, well what can you say? As you said, once the sting wore off maybe she realized the critiques and exposure were valuable.


Some of the designers they wanted the same from (prints: Uli), some they celebrated growth (Daniel)..

so which is it? And how do you know which path to take?

Korto's "honesty" was kind of heartbreaking, really. I was put off by it but now I'm just sad for her if she cannot concentrate on her great successes!


Really loved this collection, but I agree that it is mostly more of the same from Korto. The restaurant challenge dress reminded me of her brilliance with that seatbelt coat. Chick knows how to use unconventional materials. Kudos.


Loved the look of that pants suit but I was sorely disappointed there was no "insane crotch" remark from his Orangeness because that was my first thought when that came down the runway.

Thanks for all the fantastic posts - I am almost at a point where I don't need to watch PR anymore - just read PRG!


Korto is very talented and yes, she didn't have as much time to "evolve" as the others did, but I wish she had learned a little something from Chris - you should be totally thrilled just to be in the top 4. Wasn't Chris great?


Anonymous said...
I would rather talk about the collection myself. However, I'm never one to shy from calling out someone's bullshit.

Looking at all of the insults hurled at Korto because she didn't shuck and jive for the cameras is just that, bullshit.

Jillian railed after her loss, and she was just "frustrated".

Kenley acted like a nightmare, but "it was all edited".

Korto expressed disappointment about the loss, and she's a "bitch", "entitled" and "sour".

This was the same "bitter", "entitled" person who donated a prize for the TLounge.


Look, I agree with you. I do not think it is possible to determine anything about a person's personality by watching less than 15 minutes of highly edited tape of them that took place over a 6 day (high pressure )period.
I actually think it's terrible that she donated that necklace and she has to now read so many terrible comments.
I don't know if this makes any difference to you, but alot of commenters had problems with Jillian's exit interview and very few people thought that Kenley got the bad edit.
Korto's colletction is beautiful. Her only real competiton was Uli.


Anonymous said:
Korto's black dress was sensational, maybe even enough to win, but the judges decided that the other collection was more cohesive. Korto is talented and will have women running to wear her clothes. I don't think she is a bitch or has a rotten attitude, yet she could have congratulated Daniel before she stomped off the runway. That's all, or else the editors deliberately cut to her departure. If the latter is the case, shame on them for making a not so great situation look even worse.


8/24/09 11:00 AM

I checked the episode again. There was indeed a camera cut right after she hugged Daniel while saying "Number two again" and the time she stalked off. The editors interspersed shots of the judges. As Heidi was telling her she could leave the runway, Korto talked over her, saying "Always a bridesmaid" and turning abruptly to stalk off before Heidi even finished her piece.

Then, when all the designers came back out, she walked right by Daniel as Uli was hugging him, and stood well aside until he came down the line to hug her.

I don't believe the editors would have been nasty enough to delete her congratulating Daniel if she had actually done so. It looks like they just made television hay of her extreme disappointment. It's just really too bad she couldn't have sucked it up a bit and been more gracious.

By the way, have you noticed that there is no more "wall of shame" and "wall of winners" of garments on mannequins in the workroom? All the garments are immediately being auctioned off on the separate projectrunway.com web site.

http://www.mylifetime.com/on-tv/shows/project-runway/full-episodes/video/project-runway-all-star-challenge


Sewing Siren
8/24/09 1:53 PM
Look, I agree with you. I do not think it is possible to determine anything about a person's personality by watching less than 15 minutes of highly edited tape of them that took place over a 6 day (high pressure )period.
I actually think it's terrible that she donated that necklace and she has to now read so many terrible comments.
I don't know if this makes any difference to you, but alot of commenters had problems with Jillian's exit interview and very few people thought that Kenley got the bad edit.
Korto's colletction is beautiful. Her only real competiton was Uli.


Hi SS,
I appreciate your statement. I just wanted to let you know that I wasn't arguing with you. But these overreactions towards Korto needed to be addressed.

Always look forward to seeing what you write. Take care.


I didn't even recognize Katarina in the restaurant look.

And isn't the chick in the red carpet look from TFS?


Korto's Collection:
Look #1 - To me, this dress explains why Korto lost PR5, it has too many elements and as such looks overdone and not well executed. As Michael Kors says, if you go simple, it needs to be impeccable. And while it sounds contradictory, Korto has figured out a way to overdo simple enough for the look to be overworked, but not enough to exempt her from the "must be impeccable" requirement. Another issue that is rooted in the same problem is that the fabric looks like it has been handled too much. So she should have nixed one or two of her elements and spent more time on fit and refinement.

Look #2 - Fab-tacular!!! The more I see this look, the more I like it! This ensemble brought back a Korto memory from PR5, she can make amazing pants / pants ensembles! I don't mind the bare midriff-tweed combo, I chalked that up to runway look license. Two nitpicks, the fit of the waist / is slightly off and I like the idea of the accent on the vest, but not the accent itself, but I also realize that it is being used as a unifier across looks, so no biggie. I like this look so much that I am going to overlook the big-a** bag, perhaps I should open my mind about models carrying big-a** bags on the runway, especially since I am a lifelong carrier of big-a** bags.

Look #3 - I don't know if it is an execution problem or a personal preference but I don't like how the bodice fits. It is too stiff and too disconnected from the body. Still if I saw a celebrity wearing this look, head to toe on the red carpet, she would get a big thumbs up from me. On that note, I could not figure out what the red carpet look was for many of the collections.

Look #4 - I like this look, perhaps not as much as others. I am not crazy about the assymetry in the skirt and I am on the fence about the assymetry in the bodice. Also, the back reminds me of Lee Anne's avant-garde dress, I am not saying that Lee Anne invented it and Korto stole it, although I don't care if she did, it just lessened the impact for me. Between the whining and moaning about how she was done wrong in regards to the outcome of PR 5, I really liked seeing Korto work and narrate her thought process (I really enjoyed her discussing her use of lava rocks) - another PR5 memory that was re-activated.

Gorgeous models and styling!


Yes, owning up would be the order of the day (instead of trying to misdirect attention away from her own issue with an inane attack).

--GothamTomato



Like you did? You were wrong about Korto reaction only being immediately after judging and then you pick on another poster without address their points. Misdirection by whom????

Kenley is that you


Ellen M: Seriously? But they say "Alright" all the time! I love this blog, but the "alright" and similar problems make me wince constantly!


"Alright" is perfectly acceptable, especially in informal writing.


I love Korto, but Leanne deserved to win 100% for her knockout collection

I liked her work here, but Uli is my # 1 for sure.

The looks here were beautiful, well made, and wearable
1: Adorable. Great color. Simple, pretty, but not boring or saccharine
2: I can't get behind a belly shirt. Ever. It just blinds me to all the good parts of the look, and I'm not feeling the fabric.
3: Very nice. Very Korto.
4: Gorgeous. A little similar to Leanne's car challenge dress actually, but still, it's gorgeous.

Here's my issue. At least 3 of the looks are fab if taken on their own. However, they were not cohesive. Yes, they look like pieces she would design. But only 1 and 3 go together. The other 2 are in completely different styles for completely different women


Korto showed so much mastery as the judges pointed out. High points for appreciating women's bodies, execution, breadth (patterns, structure etc). If all of her looks were like her restaurant dress, she would have won because you couldn't stop looking at the dress.

It's not enough to make things look beautiful in fashion, you need to do something new, also. That's why Kara Janx also was jettisoned in her season despite of similar compliments. They'd seen the look before even though I would probably die to wear any of those luscious pieces.

When the judging moment came, I thought, will they pick wearability and execution or a more cerebral approach to designing? I just love Korto so I wanted her to win despite the sinking feeling that the judges would go for Daniel V.

In some sense, the judges remind me a lot of movie critics. When you've seen so much, it takes something fresh to wake you up. If a piece or movie is just conventionally good, it doesn't provoke any further thought on the matter.

If Korto wants to roll with haute-couture she has to do more than beautiful clothing.


Ariel
8/25/09 10:58 PM
4: Gorgeous. A little similar to Leanne's car challenge dress actually, but still, it's gorgeous.


Disclaimer, courtesy of Brooklyn Bomber and formerlyanon:

Absolutely. EVERYONE copies Leanne. Leanne has, in fact, put an end to all creativity and original thinking in fashion. In art and poetry, too, for that matter. Not to mention science and industry."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have it on good authority that the *real* reason the American space program has languished is that, at age 12, Leanne won the contested rights to her discoveries in several crucial patent cases.

As she lost interest in aerospace engineering once she discovered fashion, (though you can see remnants of early training in some of her multi-dimensional patterns), and does not wish to even lease rights to her nano-siliflon coating process, the American quest for intergalactic travel is stymied till her rights expire.


This comment has been removed by the author.

Joy Hui Lin,
You have made an excellent critque of Korto's collection and why she didn't win. The only problem is none of these criteria (cerebaral,fresh, unconventional) apply to Daniel's collection either. Daniel's collection from a manufacturing stand point would be far easier and less expensive to reproduce. Nothing in it would give a patternmaker the slightest moment of hesitation. And Daniel's collection is wearable, to be sure.
I am fairly certain that Korto is not planning on a career in Haute Couture (or any of the other contestants for that matter) because if they are they're in the wrong country.


Since the cute red dress came down the runway, I've felt like it looked too similar to: http://www.modcloth.com/store/ModCloth/Womens/Dresses/Dancing+in+Manhattan+Dress, just reversed and in red. Plenty of people do cute dresses with some detail up top, in solid colors. It's nothing new and fascinating.


Sewing Siren
8/26/09 9:44 AM Joy Hui Lin,
You have made an excellent critque of Korto's collection and why she didn't win. The only problem is none of these criteria (cerebaral,fresh, unconventional) apply to Daniel's collection either. Daniel's collection from a manufacturing stand point would be far easier and less expensive to reproduce. Nothing in it would give a patternmaker the slightest moment of hesitation. And Daniel's collection is wearable, to be sure.



So in other words, DannyV made a great collection according to TFS criteria.


Anonymous
8/26/09 9:19 AM

Absolutely. EVERYONE copies Leanne. Leanne has, in fact, put an end to all creativity and original thinking in fashion. In art and poetry, too, for that matter. Not to mention science and industry."

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. In no way do I think that Korto or Anna or anyone else for that matter copied Leanne; however, the dress reminds me of her dress in color and style. I'm not accusing Korto of anything


Her unconventional materials design was no doubt very cool and innovative, but I have to disagree about the red carpet dress. I think there's something vaguely matronly about it, and the words "cute as a button" never came to mind. And this is the problem with Korto's work for me. When she stretches a bit more, like with the restaurant challenge piece, she can wow me. You're right- she did bring a new edge to that piece. But her signature stuff typically leaves me with a "it's pretty, I guess, and well made.." reaction. In my humble opinion, there are other designers in this challenge, Daniel for one and also Uli for another, who designed fundamentally pretty red carpet dresses that were more interesting and more fashion forward, carried more of a wow factor. I don't think Korto was robbed, especially since the only criteria I can see for giving her the All Star win was the unconventional materials challenge which I viewed more as a novelty fun side project to the red carpet piece and mini collection. Also, her "I design for real woman" mantra bugs. Unless someone puts out a collection for aliens (paging Ari from Season 6) or, I dunno, lifesize marionettes (paging Elisa) everyone designs for real women, technically . Why is Korto's target clientelle more "real" than anyone else's? As someone who doesn't often find her stuff appealing, I find that assertation kind of annoying.

All that said, I do believe her when she says a lot of her bitchy commentary was taken out of context. The editing monkeys no doubt wanted some big clash of the titans thing, rather than a happy lovefest atmosphere.


Did anyone notice that Korto used the same model she used last time? That was a good choice. I think Korto does design and make wearable clothes. I think Daniel won b/c of the black dress....it made the difference. Had he not made it, Korto or Sweet P. could have won.


Yes, really. All above told the truth. Let's discuss this question.


I am very grateful to you. Many thanks.


good story, all laid out on shelves





BALMAIN for women

Blog Archive

Search This Blog

Loading...

Project Runway