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TFS: Congrats and Bye-bye

AAAHHH! Scary woman parts!

But first...
Let's talk Harper's Bizarre Mini-Challenge.

James-Paul?


"This challenge is really easy. I'm trying to study this pleating technique..."

That's fascinating, James-Paul. Here's some double-sided tape. Play with that for a while.

Now, pardon our French, kittens...

But what kind of lameass stupid fucking party game challenge was THAT? That had NOTHING to do with designing or style or technical skills or any of the things this show IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT. Why not just have a spelling bee next week?

"It's true! What is this party bullshit? Bitch is sending the Chicken home!"

What grates the most is the winner got a prize far beyond any of the prizes previously given for the mini-challenge. We don't mind a designer having that kind of temporary power, but give it out for something she really earned, rather than for winning Trivial Pursuit.

And another thing, if we hear one more conversation that starts off "Oh, Isaac! Is this one of YOUR designs?" "Why yes, it is. How did that stunning dress designed by me for my fall '09 collection wind up here?" we're going to throw things at our TV. Heavy things.

Okay, main challenge:
Now, normally we dread when shows like this do a so-called "real world" challenge because our comments section tends to explode with outrage from, well, "real" women. We don't blame them for that, but we recognize how much and how well certain buttons are being pushed in certain segments of the audience.

Having said that...

THESE WOMEN ALL HAD PERFECTLY FINE BODIES, YOU ASSHOLES.

All of that obnoxious on-camera wailing and gnashing of teeth over women who don't have visible hip bones was so over-the-top, all we could think was, "Do these idiots realize there are cameras on them?"

Honestly (and we realize some of you may disagree), if they were actually dealing with obese clients we could at least understand some of their dismay (because that does require an entirely separate skillset), but we're talking about average women with, frankly, above average bodies.


Anyway...Congrats to Daniella. When they announced your win, we each raised an eyebrow and said, "Really?"
Really, judges? Because we look at that and think "Sure, it's got its good points, but she basically looked at a woman who isn't a size zero and translated that as 'Ethel Mertz.'"

"Daniella, 2/3 of the audience said they would buy your dress."

Really?

Okay, fine. Good points...it's well executed and we like the colors and some of the details...



But it just looks like a bunch of "how to dress your figure" tricks all wrapped up in one garment and from where we're sitting, the model didn't really need much help dressing her figure in the first place. The popped collar, scoop neck, big belt, and flared skirt all scream "We're going to give you a WAIST!" to someone who already looks like she has a waist.

Seeya, Keith. Can't say we disagree with this one.

What a sad little party dress. Maybe he can market it as "The dress for the girl who hates people," or "Finally! You can stop cutting yourself and go out!"

What is going on with that bust? Had it been perfectly executed, he probably would have been fine, even if the design is totally low-end prom store.

We do have to give him credit for one thing: his wholly original defense of it:

"The imaginary dress in my head was so much better than this."

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194 comments:

I think Disappointed Midwestern Mom was pretty much over the competition at this point.

Which was fine, because I would've been real salty if they voted off Chicken Diva.

But yeah, the mini challenge was so fuckin' stupid, I even yelled it to the TV. My neighbors think I'm crazy.

And like I said NuKenley = Wendy Pepper Banana Republic. Why do the judges insist on giving the win to the person who was the biggest asshole about the whole challenge? And her model's hair was hideous. Just downright ugly.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

Wow, boys! You posted super-early today! You didn't spend the whole night deliberating this one did you?

As for Daniella, congrats, but I still couldn't remember a single design she's done without it being pointed out to me. Blah.

I was too worried that Morgana LeFay was going to send Merlin back home! But did she choose Angel because she already knew El Pollo Loco was in the bottom?

"THESE WOMEN ALL HAD PERFECTLY FINE BODIES, YOU ASSHOLES."

And I bet they looooved their 'faults' being put on screen (ex. 'short/ big bust') as they did the runway. I didn't really see one designer take the attitude of 'your fabulous, but we can make you better....'

I think Chicken looks better without hats, by the way....


I thought the designers' insulting comments about their clients' butt sizes in the promo clip were bad, but I was stunned when James Paul said he "shuns" people like their "models". I thought of a few witty/nasty comments to respond, but decided against it, as I suspect James Paul has been on the receiving end of some shunning himself. If he holds onto that attitude, he's sure to be in for more.


I think I'm done with this show. Your recaps are so much better than the actual thing itself. I'll get to bed earlier on Thursdays and just wait for your instant replays. And for PR to start back up again.


Yes the mini-challenge reward was silly and purely designed to create drama. The only surprise Daniella didn't pick Merlin but he ended up in the bottom anyway

I only assume Daniella was given the win over Reco's since hers would be easier to make and more women would be able to wear that outfit than Reco's.

Actually I was fine with either of them winning since theirs were the 2 better outfits

Frank


I really liked Daniella's dress. The dress part has sleeves, which is odd on this show, and the coat looks like it would be flattering on anyone.

Unfortunately for me, BravoTV.com is starting at size 8 and up, and I'm smaller. *sigh*


"2/3 of the audience said they would buy your dress." I wondered how many of those 2/3 were men.

BrianB


Another post for the ages, Boys.

"Finally! You can stop cutting yourself and go out!" Hysterical.


Now, while you two are brilliant, this show is bullshit.

"You are hanging by a thread." Really? Doesn't that suggest that the almost-loser has some points against them? Nope--apparently it's just a clever catch phrase.

Giving Daniella the right to put someone in the bottom three was asinine. What would they have done if she'd chosen, say, Reco or any one of the better outfits?

Speaking of Reco, if there were any doubts that the winning look is the easier to reproduce, this one erased them. Daniella's outfit was an unflattering, matronly bore (Ethel Mertz!!), and the woman looked better in her tee shirt and slacks. Reco's outfit was adorable and flattering. (Though, honestly, did that woman have any figure flaws other than being short? And don't yell at me, anybody: I'm short.)

Stupid ass b.s. show. Everything the judges say feels scripted and then edited within an inch of its life.

And you still can't see the damn clothes!!!


@ Gorgeous Things: I'm just about there myself. I stayed up long enough to see Daniella win (GAH her sulky expressions are worse than any teenager's) but went to bed after that. Didn't give a sh*t who lost. Really, I'm disgusted by the whole lot of them. PS. Did they cut ___'s (blanking on her name! Heather's cohort) line about her hiney being her worst feature?


And PPS. I couldn't see ANY of the detail on Daniella's dress except for the popped collar.


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What a COMPLETELY bogus mini challenge!!

The scripted conversations between Kelly and Isaac are unwatchable to me at this point.

And I have to agree with Brooklyn Bomber that Daniella's model looked better in her t-shirt and jeans than in that matronly "winning" outfit!

I keep hoping this show will get better, but the designers mostly come across as being whiny and miserable - no one seems to be having any fun!


Was Daniella really upset over the size of her model or was the real upset from both being a little out of her design element and her model being SUPER uncommunicative when they were planning: giving no direction, not having any personality that came across on-screen, etc.?


Her bad attitude aside (because if we are forgiving Jean-Paul and Chicken guy for all their crap, we can do the same for her), I like Daniella's outfit - I think the overall design (whether you think it is Ethel or not) looked better put together and expensive looking.

I must be missing something, but I have yet to like a Reco outfit - his stuff always looks tacky. Often well made, and sometime interesting in theory, but in the end, I always end up thinking a whorish kinda personality would wear it.... if Dress Barn made those kinds of things. The fact the Jersey/NY/whatever Housewife actor said it was her favorite thing confirmed it for me.... generally his stuff looks cheap and tacky.

I kinda liked Dynasty girl's creation this week - it was fun. Okay, maybe a little tacky too.....


Mini Challenge- I thought it was okay. It gave the designers with better drawing skills a chance to shine.

The prize was barbed. You have to pick a fellow designer to put on the chopping block, which most certainly will NOT be sent home. Hmmm.. not such a great prize after all.

Daniella's win- I liked the dress and thought it very flattering to the client, who was somewhat difficult being sooo UNopinionated. As to the "Dress Your Figure" formula, I agree, but that is exactly what they wanted according to my understanding of the challenge.

Keith's auf- I did not like this dress and he had one of the best clients too. Although he did have a very good attitude about the challenge. I thought 3 dresses that were not in the bottom were worse for their clients Anna, Johnny and Haven's.


Greg
6/5/09 9:08 AM The fact the Jersey/NY/whatever Housewife actor said it was her favorite thing confirmed it for me.... generally his stuff looks cheap and tacky.



ALL the clothes these designers make are tacky.

We're just biding time until Project Runway returns.


"Tlo said: she basically looked at a woman who isn't a size zero and translated that as 'Ethel Mertz."




OK, this is my favorite line of the week.

And perfect too because Daniella did to her model exactly the same thing they did to Vivian Vance, (made her look 15 years older than she actually was). The only difference is the stylists at I Love Lucy did that intentionally, while Daniella seemed to think she was doing her model a favor of some sort.

And poor Keith. That dress screamed Marianne Shop. Never a good thing.

--GothamTomato


I cannot believe Daniella's whining and moaning. Her woman had a great body as did all of the others. All of these women were in the mid size range and who do they think they will be making clothes for? The 5'10" size 2 woman is the anomaly in this country.
Calling Project Runway!


I didn't think Keith had the worst design. Angel's dress was falling apart with every move the woman made.


The mini-challenge was a joke. If they wanted to test their sketching skills, then, give them an object and ask them to sketch based on that.


Somewhere in Arkansas, Korto is laughing her ass off.


All you need to do is compare what the "daughter" is wearing at the store to Daniella's creation for the "mother".


The woman looks ten years older in her dress.


Like most of you, I dislike Daniella, but I agree with Anon 9:07. She seemed overwhelmed. The camera spent way too much time on her meltdown.

I think Johnny made a hideous remark akin to JP's - ie, "I don't design for real women." Ironic, given the beanpole that he's not.

I love art, but I'll buy something I can actually wear. These children just don't seem to get that, but it makes for drama.


Oh, and another thing, you lame-ass, knock-off Freak Show: were the designers supposed to minimize the figure flaws or celebrate them? I don't think you can do both, so which was it?


"Tlo said Merlin said: What is this party bullshit? Bitch is sending the Chicken home!"




Interesting that Daniella did not do the predictable thing here & choose Chicken. He earned that bottom spot for himself (though, I actually loved the jacket part of it).

That 'prize' of being able to choose someone for the bottom was so clearly calculated to cause more animosity/drama in the workroom that I wondered if they decided to throw that in on the fly because they realize how boring the show is and they want fights, rather than quality, to liven it up.

But that little breakdown performance of Daniella's looked more than a tad badly acted.

--GothamTomato


Fellas, thanks for providing recaps of TFS - I gave up on this show a couple of weeks ago, but I do enjoy your reviews each week! I'm shocked at some of the things that were apparently said last night. And I'm shocked at how bad TFS is - no, it's not supposed to be PR, but it is, at the least, supposed to be likable.


Actually, James Paul said the women were 'normal,' and that he has always shunned 'normal' in his life. Take it as you will, but he didn't really make any nasty comments about the women themselves.


I think Daniella didn't choose Merlin for the bottom because there was a better chance he'd make it out and THEN she'd have to deal with him going forward. Angel was a smarter choice because she was more likely to go home.


I'm officially OVER this show too.

I might watch it when channel flipping or ... if an interesting TLO post pops up with some fun dish, I might wait for a rerun ...

But I already started channel flipping last night ... and I'm not scheduling TV time for Thursday nights anymore.

I could rant about sooo many things, but instead, I'll just read TLO posts and have more fun pretending I watched the show, then actually watching the show.

Just sayin-

P.S. And I have to agree with Keith ... Some things are better in my head, like what I imagined this show to be, than what actually turned up on the runway ...

P.P.S. I was thinking more Ethel Merman more than Ethel Mertz, and not in a good way, either.


i just don't understand why they always make dresses. "real women" don't walk around in evening dresses all the time. how about they put a women in a pair of pants.


Daniella's dress was picked as the winner because Reco's would have been too expensive to reproduce. That's going to be his downfall on what is increasingly turning into the Target version of PR. Frankly, I'm surprised that one of the grand prizes isn't that the winning designer gets half a rack for one week in the Hoboken Target to fill with outfits that were manufactured for 12 cents a unit in Malaysia. Daniella's outfit was horribly aging to the client.

And I'm over the "real" woman insult-fest so I'm not going to resuscitate it. Last night's show was a major, major disappointment on all levels. I'm in serious danger of tuning out.


I found myself glaring at the TV and declaring "What is your PROBLEM, Daniela, it's not like YOU'RE a size 2!!"

I mean, the hypocrisy!!


I'm not going to watch this show anymore, and I'm going to write 12 paragraphs about it because it would be kewl.


@ Anon 9:26 "Actually, James Paul said the women were 'normal,' and that he has always shunned 'normal' in his life. Take it as you will, but he didn't really make any nasty comments about the women themselves."

Didn't he say something like working with women like this is akin to Jesus working with Satan?


Unlike PR, which I never missed in 5 years, I continually forget to watch this show - what does that tell you?

I caught the last 10 minutes of last night's show and follow your recaps and need to vent.

This show is awful. Isaac is forced and embarrassing to watch. I had to look away when he read his lines. Kelly has no business there. Being a "celebrity" does not give you taste OR credentials. Fern - well she's OK. The designers have poor/nonexistant technical skills which distract from their designs week after week.

The work so far has been uninspired and amateur. I saw better work from 2nd year design students when I was in school.

There, I feel better.


C. C. said...

Didn't he say something like working with women like this is akin to Jesus working with Satan
?

Yeah, he did, which I took as a bad analogy. He obviously wasn't claiming the women were the equivalent of Satan, right? I mean, you could only read so much into stupid off-hand reality show comments. My point was that he never said anything about shunning the women themselves, just that he wasn't used to working with them. Which is what they all said. It's a non-story.


C. C. said...
@ Anon 9:26 "Actually, James Paul said the women were 'normal,' and that he has always shunned 'normal' in his life. Take it as you will, but he didn't really make any nasty comments about the women themselves."

Didn't he say something like working with women like this is akin to Jesus working with Satan?

6/5/09 9:30 AM


Yeah, something to that extent. Or maybe its akin to him trying some ProActiv.


Oops!


My dad is a police detective and the mini challenge seemed like something right out of one of his training sessions regarding eyewitness descriptions. They would have someone come in and be presented as a suspect in a crime. The class was supposed to take note of his features so they could practice using the identikits. During the presentation a repair person comes in to work on the radiator. At the end - surprise! Use the identikit to create a likeness of the repairman. Makes sense for cops - no sense whatsoever for fashion designers.


Speaking of hideous dresses:

They couldn't pick a better dress from Miz's collection?


What a sad little party dress. Maybe he can market it as "The dress for the girl who hates people," or "Finally! You can stop cutting yourself and go out!"
HA! Pure genius. And both Keith and his model AND the dress were all sad and droopy.
I do enjoy this show and I am not going to stop watching but there were some real WTF moments last night. The mini challenge was insanely ridiculous as was Daniella's win. I like navy and black (altho' it looked like all black on the r.way AND I think Fern is a little obsessed with the combo) but she took this fun funky cute woman in an awesome colored t-shirt and cool earrings and turned her into someone wearing a costume (and whoever mentioned the hair, WTF?). I thought it was ridiculous. As is Daniella who apparently is incapable of irony as she cries over dressing a woman whose body is easier to fit than her own.
All kinds of craziness last night.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of hideous dresses:

They couldn't pick a better dress from Miz's collection
?

Sadly, that was probably the best one. Isaac has never really been that great a fashion designer - not sure why he's had success unless it was dumb luck or connections.


I liked Daniella's dress. It has a 1950's housewife feel, but in a cool way. I hate to say it, but she deserved to win, especially because almost everything else looked like hell.

I can barely sew a button on, so maybe there's something I don't know. But shouldn't these people be able to make properly fitting clothes by measuring the models and working with the right amount of fabric? Pad, pin and measure before you cut and sew. Measure twice, cut once. It's not just for wood anymore.

I don't get why being larger than a size 2 was such a huge problem. Even skinny girls have flaws (which these morons refuse to recognize), so shouldn't a good designer already know how to work around them?

Keith's dress may have been an unmitigated disaster, but at least he was encouraging and told his model that she was perfect. After he said that, I wanted him to do well.

Angel has got to learn some time management skills.

The entire episode was a mess.


As soon as Keith said he thought he would nail the challenge, I turned to my husband and said, he's leaving.

Can we talk about the horrible hair on this show for a second?

During the Tresemme spots, they choose the women with the WORST hair. The HB bitch has flat, uninteresting, limp hair and the cutie Tresemme girl has an awful cut that looks frizzy and straggly. I don't understand why they're the representatives for the brand.


I was thinking less Ethel Mertz and more Lisa Lampanelli. Either way, I didn't love it.


I really don't believe James Paul meant to compare the women to Satan. That wasn't the problem with his comment; the problem was his unbelievably inflated image of himself. A more appropriate analogy might have been: "It's like asking Captain Kangaroo to work with Mr. Khaki Jeans."


These people call themselves 'designers'? I think a more appropriate title would be 'delusional'! Almost every single person ended up accentuating their model's flaws rather than hiding them. I thought everyone (except Reco's model) looked better in their jeans and tee-shirts than they did in what was made for them. If you can't design clothes that fit a size eight,realistically speaking you have very little future in the fashion industry ---well unless you don't like eating and paying the rent and just want to make clothes for your anorexic friends.


I missed the very beginning of the show. Is the Isaac dress that everyone's talking about the weird pleated one? B cause that was some serious fug.


Now, pardon my French, but what the fuckin' FUCK??? Daniella's dress was exactly the type of outfit my Nana--who was referred to gently as "stout"--wore in the 1950s. Back when stout women in their late 50s were never supposed to wear color or show any parts of their old-lady bodies to the world.

Daniella Pepper's dress was ugly and insulting to that vibrant young woman. Black and blue was totally appropriate only in that I wanted to pummel her until her face matched the damn dress.

Thanks for the Ethel Mertz reference, TLo, but honestly, Ethel probably wouldn't have worn this shmata unless it was bright red!

But as several people have said, the whole episode was a mess. The mini-challenge was idiotic, and Angel's dress was so utterly awful that I realized I was watching her model with my mouth hanging open. And all the weeping and wailing over women with perfectly fine bodies? Give me a fuckin' break!

I'm starting to hate all of these whining designers. Except Reco. He's totally obnoxious and totally right about almost everything--including telling Johnny Sumo to get the hell off the show in next week's episode.

FEH!


I've seen a couple post picking up on my thoughts watching the show.

Daniella looked to be a similar size to her model. Others here can opine, but I would think that as female designer of womens clothes would LIKE designing for her body type?

And it blows my mind that if a woman has the same basic shape as a size 2, just "zoomed" up to a 12 or 16, that this is somehow now IMPOSSIBLE and akin to "Jesus having to work with Satan"
...JP please just STFU.

I have not seen any comments on IM's insane complaint about the length of that skirt being awful. Really, mid-knee (although it looked like just below)? Middle of the fattest part of the calf, or too short on wider thighs (and yes we saw a couple of those yesterday) are bad, but the classic length deserves that flailing and attacks?

Then why would if be acceptable when RECO'S WAS THE SAME LENGTH.

Reco was robbed.

I usually defend Daniella, but my first reaction to hers was, WTH, how unflatterning - although considering the others, I "slightly" rethought that. BUT the "Collar"/neck reminded me of a shirt collar that is too small for a large neck, which makes the wearer look even bigger than their true size.


TLo

TY.

Ann


ask said...

I have not seen any comments on IM's insane complaint about the length of that skirt being awful. Really, mid-knee (although it looked like just below)? Middle of the fattest part of the calf, or too short on wider thighs (and yes we saw a couple of those yesterday) are bad, but the classic length deserves that flailing and attacks?

Then why would if be acceptable when RECO'S WAS THE SAME LENGTH
.

Um, maybe because a length that looks good one woman looks like "the weirdest length" ever on another? Their legs are different, and they will simply look different. Why does everybody act like every comment out of the judges' mouths is meant to be some overarching truism and fashion rule? Their aren't ANY rules in fashion! What works for one won't work for another. Merlin's model looked weird with that skirt length, Reco's didn't. End of story. Jesus.


..This show really isn't that bad, guys. It's not great, but neither were the first two seasons of Project Runway. (exceptions: Jay, Kara, Kara, Nick <3)

Besides, I'm more excited for Celebrity Sew-Off than Project Runway LA.


ANon - well of ALL the many problem with Chicken's outfit (it was his right?) the LENGTH was not one of them. And under NO stretch of the imagination was that the "wierdest length ever".

TIght flat ass and weird poochy front, and the woman couldn't step up onto the runway.


Yes, Merlin certainly had more problems than just the length, but the length WAS unflattering. And it still doesn't change the fact that taking judging comments about one dress and applying them to all the others is completely non-sensical. Like people shrieking about black dresses are getting compliments and wins because Fern said ONE TIME that we're in "a season of color." That doesn't mean black = huge no-no. It's kind of laughable, actually.


Reco should have won. Ethel Mertz, indeed.

Yeah, Keith's defense was better than the dress by far.


>she basically looked at a woman who isn't a size zero and translated that as 'Ethel Mertz.'"<

lololollolololol!


Message to Sewing Siren:Since
this show is so awful, and the
only reason to watch are TLos
screencaps and reader responses, you must know you have a major obligation here. To wit: Please
clarify the comments on your wonderful sketches, which as we all
know are a hell of a lot better than anything on screen.
Thank you ever so much.


"Brooklyn Bomber said: I really don't believe James Paul meant to compare the women to Satan."




I also don't think he meant to compare himself to Jesus. He was just making a joke (in his own awkwardly nerdy way).

--GothamTomato


I took JP's lament about Satan as he didn't work with normal people because they prefer clean lines and "boring" clothing and it would limit him as he thinks that his designs are new and completely out of the box. (Although, frankly, turning out the same hemline and pinning drapey folds hither and yon doesn't seem all that revolutionary to me...we've seen it before, and better executed, on that OTHER show.) He even said he felt like he lost himself in the final product (which he did as that skirt had a straight hemline! *snicker*)

I also thought that Daniella's breakdown was more due to the lack of getting anything at all from her client, than her size...but then she started lamenting the size of her hips, etc., and she lost me. I didn't hate her dress and coat (I, myself, am extremely fond of the Stepford Wife silhouette and buy every dress designed as such if I can get my hands on it...although mine are in bright colors and patterns.)but I thought Reco's just looked nicer, overall.

Reco may be obnoxious as hell, but so far, his skills are so above and beyond some of these people that I can't really blame him. Yes, his designs are often tacky, but they always fit and look finished, which you can't say about everyone. Angel! Learn to manage your time! I am so tired of the runway guy bellowing, "Angel! I need her now! Time is up!" every freaking week.


The "Finally! You can stop cutting yourself and go out!" remark had me choking with laughter. Can't wait to see your comments on the other garments, especially Johnny's cheap tank dress the Cover Girls or Exposé might have worn in 1988.


Daniella's "prize" -- (being able to choose a designer for the lowest three) -- was just dumb and baffling.

Had her pick been at odds with the judges rankings, her chosen victim would have merely suffered the indignity of being bunched with the losers for a minute and a half, nothing more.


"Measure twice, cut once. It's not just for wood anymore."

I like it!

To paraphrase the show:
"Hey, Reco's already cutting out his stuff"
"Uhhh, that's because I know what I'm doing."


I think I'm over this show, too. Bullshit mini-challenge. Bullshit elimination challenge. Bullshit that Daniella got to pick someone to put in the bottom 3 (and that person was actually probably chosen by the producers).

Bullshit editing, in that they only featured 5 of the designers during the "chat" with Isaac and Kelly, and GUESS WHAT? Those were the top 2 and bottom 3. Big shocker there.

And I agree that all of those models had perfectly fine bodies. Fern even said in the judging that Keith's model had a "perfect" body (or something similar).

Reco, Keith and Angel did not bitch and moan about the "real" models. They welcomed the challenge and had the right attitude.

J-P, Haven and Daniella are delusional immature idiots. But, of course, that is what the producers of the show wanted.

I'm ready for PR to come back. I think from now on I'll just stick to reading the TLo recaps of TFS. It's not worth wasting an hour of my life on.


Ow Chica Ow OW

I'm sorry, but Reco's outfit looked both tacky and chip in a chip way. It fit her well and he has great skills, no question, but that was so not appropriate for an office. Skirt with a waist up to the boobs with a red ruffle shirt? It practically screams "Here are my TITS!"

Agree on all other points. This show is trying so hard to the point that it's buffoonish. Why wasn't the prize for the mini challenge something normal like that person gets to pick their model while the others are assigned? It's like "Hey look everyone! See how different we are from Project Runway!"


"Maineiac said: I was stunned when James Paul said he "shuns" people like their "models"."




I think what he said was that he shuns anything 'normal', not normal women, like the real women models.

He stikes me as someone very young, and who was the nerdy arty kid in school, who has internalized and then embraced his outsider status (probably reads Sylvia Plath too), and so now has created an identity that is the antithesis of the banal suburban conformity. He doesn't want to design for Target, which is fine. Hopefully he has a trust fund so he can do highminded 'art'.

He wasn't insulting the women, just saying that's not his thing.

--GothamTomato


Most of the designers flailed around because they failed to observe the bodies before them. Instead they asked the 'models' to declare their figure flaws.

"Shoulders too broad"? In what universe is this a flaw?

How accurate do you suppose most self-critiques are? Isn't this why Angel effed up the skirt-- she was so focused on the non-issue of "short waist", she failed to notice the less than stellar legs.

If these dames were accurate critics of themselves, they would have looked better in the first place.


Ditto Sara about Daniella.

Um, has she never made clothes for herself? She's definitely as big as many of the "real" women.

That's fine, but don't act like you couldn't possibly understand a woman's body over a size 2 when you're clearly not one yourself.


Turner Classic Movies was showing The Seventh Seal and I found that much more compelling. Oh, and Anna's dress make her client have a belly blob - turned my stomach.


I find it interesting that an outfit with any color has yet to win. Never mind something with a print! Black, black, tan, black, black.


..."Sure, it's got its good points, but she basically looked at a woman who isn't a size zero and translated that as 'Ethel Mertz.'"...

Absolutely brilliant. I hated that dress and have no idea why it won.

Did these designers believe it was all about drawing pretty sketches and dressing betty-spaghetti dolls?

I swear, this is the show of fools. I'm positive the next mini challenge will be something involving stacking Legos. Or, find the ball under the cup.


another laura

Bitches, this show is pfeh.

As for James Paul's statement that he avoids "normal"? I get soooo annoyed by people who are so studiously "I'm not used to working with normal, people don't get what I do because I'm such an Artist and I'm so Creative." Suck it up, this show was advertised as a match of art and marketing. Please get over yourself, James Paul. Please.

Venting over. Thanks.


Lisa said...

"Shoulders too broad"? In what universe is this a flaw
?

In Jessica Biels's universe.


I'll concede that James Paul might not have meant his shun comment as negatively as I interpreted it. I really don't know what is in his mind, and it's not getting any clearer based on his output on the show.

Some posters have even suggested his Jesus v. Satan comment shouldn't be taken at face value as good v. bad. However, I think that most people I know would make that subconcious association, and I think James Paul did, too. If he had said it was like Fellini working with Mel Brooks, you could think, "Ok, those are two strong but incompatible viewpoints".

It's pretty academic anyway, because I don't expect to see him in the final three. His garment last night was a hot mess.


Aw man...
This show has used up my patience. I'm tired of waiting for it to get better. I regret to say I will continue to watch it because I won't give up TLo's recaps, and the recaps always make me want to actually SEE the carnage.

I HATED Evilene's dress. TLo said it perfectly, "But it just looks like a bunch of "how to dress your figure" tricks all wrapped up in one garment" EXACTLY what I thought last night -- like an illustration in a reference book for seamstresses.

Black & Navy may be chic (or sheik as my brain just tried to type), but they were DULL DULL DULL on that dress. And the collar immediatly made me think of Elvis and Evel Knievel. It looked like a costume to me.

Plus, someone above mentioned the model's hair -- who the hell did THAT to her? That was dowdy. Yuck.

Reco's should have won. Love Reco. Last week he seemed to let his ego go a little OTT just because he was so happy to be rid of his weak-ass team. This week he settled down a little bit. He's still Reco...but he also still has the goods to back it up.

That said, yes, more women can wear a fuller skirt than a fitted, high-waisted skirt. Doesn't mean she should have won that.

Top 2 should have been Reco & Lydia.

And yes, Keith's was pretty awful, but I don't think it was the worst. Angel's & EPL's were pretty awful, but I don't think either of them were the worst.

ANNA's was the worst. Hideous. But I guess that's for another post.

Jean-Paul, you are a HORRIBLE little man, but you needn't refer to yourself as Satan!


I think Reco's blog entry was interesting:

"Red ruffled vintage chiffon shirt, tailored vest with piping, grey on grey with a grey on grey piped pencil legged skirt lined in red, and tailored to fit the body to perfection. I looked over uneven details, unlined jacket and unhemed skirt. She won. I’ll let you be the judge."


If Daniella's wasn't finished, then that makes the judges' choice that much more stupid.

Who wants to be made over into Frau Farbissina?


Ethel Mertz, or how about Ethel Merman? She wore that silhouette (sp?) on countless Merv Griffin show appearances! I heard "Everything's Coming Up Roses" when that dress walked out. Nice enough ensemble, but I preferred Reco's by far.

I really with the judges would spend at least 3 seconds discussing each of the garments. Their super-rushed "deliberation" conferences in that broom closet are very unsatisfying.


First, while I think Daniella is a bitch from hell for her comments about her models body, that doesn't make it ok to body snark about her. Shes not a size 2, true, but shes a perfectly attractive size. I hate to be the body snark police (and yes, I read way to much Feministing and Jezebel), but I just think comments should focus on her perfectly unattractive personality. :) Since I'm in charge and all, lol.

Gotham Tomato:

" He stikes me as someone very young, and who was the nerdy arty kid in school, who has internalized and then embraced his outsider status (probably reads Sylvia Plath too), and so now has created an identity that is the antithesis of the banal suburban conformity."

Brillant and perfectly on point. The ironic thing is, by buying so heavily into the fashion industry's idiotic, sexist vision of the female ideal, he's showing himself to be as unoriginal and uncreative as the "normals" he so fears. Oh James Paul. If only you were as free of a thinker as you'd like to believe.


So, mixing black and navy...that's allowed now? I only ask because it's been "against the rules" for as long as I can remember. It's gonna take awhile for me to catch up.


I like Kelly Rowland - but sometimes I think that Isaac Mizrahi could host the show by himself.


Gorgeous Things I couldn't agree more. I'm just so over it.
I also have to agree that there is no way Reco's outfit could be considered appropriate for work, unless you are working at the Bunny Ranch maybe. See-through blouse? Red? Super-tight skirt that looks super-cheap and tacky?! No!
I am really wondering whether this will make it to a second season, it probably depends on how successful Lifetime's Project Runway turns out. We could just end up with two hot messes.


Um, I used it because someone else here used in reference to Daniella. Sorry Gloria Steinem - perhaps it's best if you stay off the Internet, if you get so personally offended by WORDS.


I liked Daniella's dress very much, and thought it extremely flattering to her model. (I see it's not available to anyone under a size 8, which is silly.)

It was apparent to me that Daniella was upset, not over her model's size, but over the fact that she was completely uncommunicative about what she didn't like about her body, what colors she liked, what her style was ("Style?", she said), and basically provided Daniella with no input whatsoever.

Frankly, I don't see what Reco was doing in the top two. I give him credit for excellent execution, but the design was ass. All I could think of was Jane Fonda in 9 to 5. Yuck.

The mini-challenge was excellent - as a demonstration of the flaws in eyewitness testimony. As a design challenge, it was ludicrous, and the reward was absurdly out of proportion.


Anon 12:02

Agnostic, thanks! But, weirdly, I just happen to think that the country as a whole would benefit if people got over their obsession with the thin ideal. And that women, in paticular, should be a little kinder to other women - especially when its going to be broadcast on national television. I'm Daniellas age, and she should know better.

Are you the same anon who is on here every day, going out of his/her way to be nasty?

And I'm pretty sure you're the only one who used the C-U-Next-Tuesday word.


" Whitney said...

Anon 12:02

Agnostic, thanks! But, weirdly, I just happen to think that the country as a whole would benefit if people got over their obsession with the thin ideal. And that women, in paticular, should be a little kinder to other women - especially when its going to be broadcast on national television. I'm Daniellas age, and she should know better.

Are you the same anon who is on here every day, going out of his/her way to be nasty?

And I'm pretty sure you're the only one who used the C-U-Next-Tuesday word
.

No and no. I was talking about people's comments about Daniella that I thought were a little extreme. Someone posted that little acronym thingy about her. I referenced it. Is it that hard to understand? Why would I call her a c*** and then say it's ridiculous for people to call her names because she's not that bad? Making sense is fun.


Iam disappointed over attitudes, over skills, and overall show presentation, this is not 'Cutting" ;) it for me, PR's premiere is too far away!!!!!!


Well, then, I apologize for assuming you were one and the same. This is generally a pretty civil blog, and this paticular anon sets me on my hackles.

I didn't see that anyone else had called her a C***. And we can agree to disagree on finding her "that bad".


What was with the skinny Amazon Johnny got? Was she "real" because she was a size 0 and not a 00? I miss PR! I'm giving this show one more chance and if it doesn't shape up, Auf Wiedersehen!


Dear TLo,
Thank you for watching TFS each week so I don't have to. I love to read your witty blog and everyone's comments, but I can not watch TFS ever again.
Sincerely,
Iris


Whitney said...

I didn't see that anyone else had called her a C***. And we can agree to disagree on finding her "that bad".


Of course we can. I rarely post here so I don't have an account. Not all anons are the same, on any site. Many, many people use the Internets. ;)


Re. Anon. 12:02's use of the pejorative term... someone else did use it earlier but the post was removed. (I'm procrastinating ... so I'm spending far too much time here today.)

Thanks, TLo, if you did that. I find the word offensive too. I so much prefer your updates and recaps to those on sites like TVgasm because yours aren't nasty. Like you said in a comment the other day, there's no need for name-calling or meanness.

Thanks for the entertainment and the fashion.


What I liked best about this episode was they gave the designers a variety of "real women" with different body types to work with. I think on PR or some other show like this, designers have exclusively worked with plus-size women?

I particular, it was nice to see a petite girl included for once!


Anonymous @ 10:57 said: To paraphrase the show:
"Hey, Reco's already cutting out his stuff"
"Uhhh, that's because I know what I'm doing."



I'm still laughing about that. Remember how your teachers used to tell you that you should concentrate on your own work and not worry about anyone else's? That, right there, Daniella.

I also got a big kick out of her saying that she JP's head was blocking her view. He's like 5' nothing, and she was standing behind him on a higher step. Girlfriend is full of excuses. But I still like her dress.

Whitney, it could the same "anonymous" who's so rude to everyone, but in his/her defense, someone else did refer to Daniella as a cunt. I can't find it here. Maybe it was in the Preview post.


This episode was wildly offensive and really just kind of... Annoying. None of the designers came off well, and I like every last one of them a little bit less for their attitudes (or hate them a little bit more, as the case may be) -- except for Reco, who actually seemed unfazed, and turned out a spectacular outfit that his client loved.

I really, really think James-Paul should've gotten the boot. I was SHOCKED that he wasn't in the bottom three. His outfit was wholly uninspired and it just plain didn't fit -- or in any way flatter -- his model. Her requesting sleeves doesn't mean you have to put her in the frumpiest jacket ever devised, you idiot.

Great post, boys. You and Reco are the only reason I'm still watching this god-awful show.


Daniella will probably be thankful if she looked like her client 15 yrs down the road.

But the most weird comment was from JP, "I shun normal". Does he intend to have a career designing for aliens from outer space? Oopps...aliens usually wear uniforms or don't wear anything...

If he dresses people in the real world, he has to do 'normal' right? Who wants to step out of the house wearing pleats, drapery & over the top stuff all the time?


OK, ignore the last part of my previous post. Said, taken care, cleared up, etc.


I am also surprised that Daniella was so traumatized by her model's proportions--not only, but her argument against the model were nonsensical: "She's larger all the way around" sounds like a godsend. That means that all you have to do is blow up the clothes you'd normally make for your 'normal' models since your model is apparently just larger but still in proportion. I also agree that Daniella is not very slender herself and I can't imagine a designer who doesn't make clothes for her/himself. Who would you practice on after you've pinned the hell out of your closest friends? Who did you begin working on? It seems common sense that if you won't wear your own clothes, you should probably not be designing clothes for others. I think that Reco definitely had the most healthy attitude toward the models and I think the fact that he makes clothes on a more regular basis contributes to his sewing capabilities.

Consider: what if, instead of going out and buying clothes as regularly as you do, you made clothes every time you wanted a new something or other. You would get so much more practice in sewing and construction than just a senior project. I think Reco embraces that kind of mentality whereas the more 'schooly' designers can't.

I think that JP is very schooly in that regard. He's definitely part of the fashion school of thought that says, "never compromise." It works well for some designers, but not in a competition that is designed to push your boundaries. None of these competitions are about sitting back and letting the contestants do whatever they feel like. In that sense, JP is out of his element because he's part of that rigid theoretical fashion world where compromise is always a no-no. I don't think JP has issues against real women and I can understand when he says, "I don't believe fashion should be driven by anything outside of itself." At the same time, it's not really a mentality he can keep in this competition.


I thought the saddest thing about this episode was that almost all of the designers took attractive (and thin!) "real women" who ALREADY knew how to dress themselves to advantage, and made them look WORSE!

Especially Angel, who made her model look lumpy, frumpy, and sad. I thought her "dress" was actually worse than Keith's (though I know it's a truism of these shows that boring will always go home over hot mess with potential).

Daniella's win-meh. I agree it's frumpy, though on TV last night I thought it looked better than I do now that I see the stills.


I am also done with this show. Reco for the win. Even though I hate his attitude/personality.


Lilithcat,
That's what I thought might be (at least part of ) the source of Daniella's frustration.
I liked her outfit , partly perhaps because that 50's fit and flair silhouette looks good on me (I never claimed to be impartial). I don't think it makes her look old either. What looks young anyway? Jeans, grandparents wear those or that godawful mini dress Johnny put on his client?
The sketching from memory is something that I do all the time. If you see something on the street or in a magazine (that doesn't belong to you) it is very useful to have a good memory for details.
Back in the old days when the Haute Couture was still relevent to ready to wear, knock off houses would send undercover sketchers into the shows to copy the dresses they thought would be hits. They skechers would have to wait until the shows were over to jot their sketches down and send them back to NY to be copied before anyone else could do it legitimately.


I liked Reco's better than Daniella's.

Keith's dress was horrible. Bad and boring. Plus his designs have been mediocre since the beginning.

There were a lot of bad designs this week. Disappointing episode. I'm starting to think this show is the best thing that could have happened to project runway. We'll be so sick of this show that we'll simply be in rapture to see Heidi, Tim, Nina, and the Duchess on out TVs again.

and we'll be comparing PR with The Fashion Show, not previous seasons of Project Runway. It will have to look a million times better in comparison.


i agree that keith's was the losing design. sad. i think he had potential.

daniella's on the other hand - bleh. i dont think it should have even been in the top two. and im not even going to start on all her weepy, poor-me-i-have-to-design-for-something-bigger-than-a-size-0 bullshit. just on it's own, her dress was dull and, with the crap lighting, made her model look like she was wearing a bedsheet.

top two for me would have been reco & haven. i though haven's design - while simple - totally hit the mark & made her model look great.

reco may have loads of attitude - and i love him for it - but he really does have a TON of great skills. can we just make this the reco show & do away with all the trifling whiny nonsense? it'd be so much more fun to watch.

heck, can we just get reco to be the resident designer on rupaul's drag race & let that run 24/7?


Daniella's young. I think she was just freaking out because she was so far out of her element and the cameras found this interesting. Also, it provided a chance to be all, "being sizeist is wrong!!" Someone just out of school might have never ever worked with someone larger than a size 0 before. Sure, it's sizeist, but it's not quite their fault, it's what the profession and all training she had previously called for and she hasn't had the chance to have other experiences.

Also, of course she, the resident "bitch," wins the challenge where the prize involves having to call someone out. I think they were looking for drama... I'm glad she maturely went with the worse design rather than personal problems.


I can overlook James Paul's silly comment, and accept the idea that he's the fashion nerd and all that. My complaint is that he seems to have a rather outsized view of his present level of ability. Even sillier than the Jesus comment was the one last week about how we were supposed to look at the mediocre dress he made and see the future of fashion. He may indeed have forward-thinking ideas about fashion, but we haven't really seen them yet. His first design was good but and I do suspect he's talented. But he seems to think that at the age of --what is he, 26 or something?-- he's already achieved great heights of brilliance. Nobody wants to learn and develop anymore. It's sad.


This is a good lesson in how to take a woman with a very nice figure and make her look like she needs to lose 20 lbs. I do not see a career in fashion for Daniella and she's so surly I just want to slap her. Come to think of it, I just want to slap everyone at Bravo for producing such a lame show.


think Johnny made a hideous remark akin to JP's - ie, "I don't design for real women." Ironic, given the beanpole that he's not. -- Hellena

Hilarious! ^^
Oh I wish Daniella hadn't won. Reco had such a great attitude about the challenge that I really wanted him to take it out - even though I found his dress quite outdated. I think that Lydia's dress was the most stylish, glamorous, flattering and EVENING of them all though.
Keith's design wasn't so bad but I am glad they kept Angel & Merlin.
If Danielle wins this competition I will be pissed.
I know I shouldn't be comparing this show to Project Runway but really, I have to. This is AWFUL. Cheaply made, talentless designers with no charisma, nasty, ineffectual, contradictory judges. I think the worst thing is the drab lighting, it just makes me depressed everytime I watch it. If they were going to make a rip-off of PR they should have just gone all they way instead of trying to differentiate and effectively make it so much worse!
I miss Nina :(


Reco is the only designer I'm really liking about now. James Paul's whining, Daniella's crying and the majority of the designers reactions to their clients after they got actual measurements almost made my eyes permanently roll back into my head.

I liked Reco's design a lot. It would probably fit my body type, but I'm not a fan of RUFFLEEXPLOSION on things. Ahwell.

Daniella's dress would have been nicer in actual color or a subtle print, maybe. I would have rather seen the win go to Reco but her final product looked to be very well done.


Bean re IM saying "being sizeist is wrong!!"

Glad you mentioned that comment.

Does IM even make larger than a 12 (or 14)? ANd I've been told that his clothes run small rather than true to size.

Has Angel made anything worthwhile other than the White shirt dress last week?


How is the fashion forward? Danielle's dress is something that my grandmothers generation wore! REco deserves props for highlighting and augmenting a small woman's body, giving her curves and "sexying" her up.

I can say that I was disappointed with this decision.


I do not blame Daniella's client for Daniella's frustration. Her inquiry was lame>

If someone asked me "what's your style?" I would be at loss for an answer as well. Ask me if I prefer skirts to pants, t-shirts to blouses, tightfitting to loose and I can respond.

Don't ask me if I like your electric blue sample. Odds are I do not. Ask me what colors are currently in my wardrobe now and if I'm happy with that.

But I suppose interviewing the client is yet another task our Super Uber Creative Designing Icons will leave to the little immigrant ladies who will also be busy sewing the clothes.


That quickfire challenge was pointless. What talents/ingenuity does this demonstrate? How to be a crime witness and court sketch artist? Honestly, if this show cannot think of something decent, why not just get to the meat of the competition?

I thought the "prize" was BS too. Daniella didn't get to send anyone home; she merely gave the judges another booting option, but worst is worst, and that wasn't going to change anything.

Daniella's winning dress was more flattering than most this week, but "Ethel Mertz" is spot on. And it's not helped by the Count Chocula collar.

"Navy and black are so sophisticated." No kidding. That's been rewarded three times this season: James-Paul's rubik dress and bolero, Daniella's hotpants/sheer "bomber", and now this.

And I have absolutely nothing to say about Kevin's dress. Bleh.


Ok, first off-you can buy a pattern that's just about Danielle's dress right here-
http://www.sovintagepatterns.com/catalog/item/1657255/6574699.htm
from the 1950s. Ok, Kenley-poo2, it fit, but come on. She is so bad with real people she couldn't figure out what color her client likes.

I REALLY don't like Issac and Kelly going into the work room then going out to snark. First, they are supposed to be judges and it ruins the impartial feel-we'd like to THINK they are fair, and the contestants may be striving to please them at the mid-point and be totally thrown. Get one of last year's contestants to do the workroom tour. Jesus.

TFS producers----QUIT trying to make drama. Come up with good challenges and the drama will follow. Mmmkay?


Am I the only person who liked the Harper's Bazaar Mini Challenge?

It sure seemed that way.

If you do not view it as a challenge, but as an object lesson and a HUGE HINT about what to do in the elimination challenge, it was brilliant.

None of the designers noticed the obvious thing standing before them: the women's bodies. They zeroed in on the flaws the women told them they had.

The result was fug that made the women look worse than what they were wearing.

Frankly, I would not have declared a winner this week--just to drive home that point. But none of the judges had the balls to do that. Not even Fern.


Does IM even make larger than a 12 (or 14)? ANd I've been told that his clothes run small rather than true to size.

He did when he designed for Target. I think that whole line and what he tried to do with it speaks very well for him attempting to connect more with "real women" in terms of body shape and bank account. I do think Heather has some authority to address this, in my opinion. I also think this is why he is perfect for the show - that and his television friendly personality


God, this show is such a low rent version of PR, I don't know why I watch it anymore! Bad challenges, bad lighting, useless judges (Kelly anyone? WTF is her purpose?) and nary a real designer worth their salt in the group. Gah! Make it stop! Your recaps are hysterical, I think I'll just skip the show and read your blog instead.


Am I the only one who thought that Haven should have been in the top 2, or at least given some recognition?

So many of the designers had this attitude of trying to cover up the perfectly fine bodies of their models, whereas Haven basically made a dress that celebrated it.

And Merlin seriously should have gone home. The losing dress was bad, but Merlin made a dress that gave her a pooch, made her boobs look huge AND she couldn't walk in it.


Maybe I live under a rock, but that's the first time I've ever heard anyone use the term "sizeist". It sounds kinda silly, at least to me.

How about "Wintourist" instead?


"It seems common sense that if you won't wear your own clothes, you should probably not be designing clothes for others."

Funny you should say that right before talking about Reco. Now THERE'S a show!


We've got to get to JohnnySamurai's cheap 1990 Fly Girl dress.

How the Judge's let that slide through is beyond me.

Well, Kelly might've had a Dereon flasback and blacked out.


Daniella is a whiny little bitch. I hate that she won for that boring outfit with that horrible attitude. I think that (hopefully) it's just her age and when she sees this later on she will be absolutely horrified. Not that she's presented herself well at all so far but this episode takes the cake.
James-Paul on the other hand, holy moly! But that is a comment for another post.


Suzq said, None of the designers noticed the obvious thing standing before them: the women's bodies. They zeroed in on the flaws the women told them they had.

But that was the challenge! Don't you recall the statement "most women have things they don't like about their bodies"? The challenge was to disguise what these women considered to be their flaws and enhance their assets. The designers had to ask!


SUS said..."Navy and black are so sophisticated." No kidding. That's been rewarded three times this season: James-Paul's rubik dress and bolero, Daniella's hotpants/sheer "bomber", and now this.

Yep -- and it was Daniella that insisted on doing black & navy on the bolero team, then Daniella did the black & navy for Tinsel, and now Daniella doing Ethel Mertz.

And last week, Daniella did black & a different dark, saturated color. I guess I can only hope that if she keeps this up the judges will notice.

Although the judges don't really seem to comment on any designer's overall point of view.


Tamarama said...

SUS said..."Navy and black are so sophisticated." No kidding. That's been rewarded three times this season: James-Paul's rubik dress and bolero, Daniella's hotpants/sheer "bomber", and now this.

Yep -- and it was Daniella that insisted on doing black & navy on the bolero team, then Daniella did the black & navy for Tinsel, and now Daniella doing Ethel Mertz.

And last week, Daniella did black & a different dark, saturated color. I guess I can only hope that if she keeps this up the judges will notice.

Although the judges don't really seem to comment on any designer's overall point of view
.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one who noticed she kept using navy and black. Fern may think it looks "so chic," but it actually looks fairly dumpy on non-fashionistas. And I'm inclined to think it is currently "so chic" because it used to be regarded as "so taboo," and not becuase many people actually think it looks good. Because it doesn't. At all.


Lisa said...

"Shoulders too broad"? In what universe is this a flaw?

In Jessica Biels's universe.



Hogwash. Broad shoulders are always an asset, on a man or a woman.


"Brooklyn Bomber said: I can overlook James Paul's silly comment, and accept the idea that he's the fashion nerd and all that. My complaint is that he seems to have a rather outsized view of his present level of ability. Even sillier than the Jesus comment was the one last week about how we were supposed to look at the mediocre dress he made and see the future of fashion."




Yeah, but that just makes him exactly like every other reality show nitwit; from every American Idol loser to E Hasselbeck to that poker player on the Apprentice to those Hills morons. There is a pandemic of delusional self-esteem.

At least James Paul is less objectionable (so far) than any of those.

--GothamTomato


Guys, I'm a plus size gal and a vintage lover and I would LOVE to buy Danielle's dress. Give me Ethel Mertz anyday over most of the crap you find in stores these days.

And (and I have not read all the comments, but I'm sure someone has pointed this out) neither Danielle OR Haven are little gals. Have they never worn their own designs? Never made anything for themselves? sheesh


"The challenge was to disguise what these women considered to be their flaws and enhance their assets. The designers had to ask!"

Sure, they had to ask, but after the requisite "asking" they should have objectively sized up the client and designed whatever they thought would work best regardless of the client's not-necessarily-accurate hang-up.

If you send someone down the runway looking as good as they're capable of looking, you can always then pay lip-service to minimizing the supposed flaw... especially if it's imaginary.


Also, am I the only one who was loving what Fran had on?
Maybe because I'm an "older" gal who's body is much more like Fran's. but I always enjoy seeing what she wears each week.


Some of the ridiculousness was that the challenge was to hide the figure flaws and then at the end Isaac was saying that none of the designers "celebrated" the flaws.

Ummm, Heather, what was the challenge again?


bitchybitchybitchy

I haven't seen this episode yet..but I can't resist reading the recap, and your "Ethel Mertz" comment is hilarious!


Yeah. What assholes these "designers" be.


Others have pointed it out, but what was up with Daniella's model? She knew she was going to be on the show. They didn't put her on the spot, live, right there in front of the camera. She didn't think of ONE favorite color or what her style is or anything? I'd be frustrated if I was Daniella, too, although she really should have risen above the situation, attitude-wise.


bitchybitchybitchy

Actually, James Paul said the women were 'normal,' and that he has always shunned 'normal' in his life.

Perhaps James Paul will be designing a clothing line for Abby Normal (from Young Frankenstein)!


I forgot TFS was on last night. Instead, my family and I watched two episodes of PR Season 1. (Rock star garb and wedding dress.)

Those of you who keep saying we need to remember that Season 1 of PR was a little rocky are delusional. As I watched Austin Scarlett sobbing on the sofa after the judging, it was quite clear to me that this show is wonderful. NO MORE ISAAC/KELLY BANTER FOR ME.

I am over it. The end.


I was so disgusted by these people last night. I used to get really peeved when designers on PR would complain about plus sized challenges, but that was nothing compared to the ghastly behavior displayed by these idiots. I don't care if it's his "thing" or not, but James Paul's comments we horrendous. his little shivers at the thought of working with a SIZE 6, his proclamations that he has "shunned" women with any such bodies...come on? How can anyone think he is anything but a pimply little prick after that?

I really though Daniella was playing it super safe. If anything, I appreciated Johnny's because my god, at least it was mildly interesting, none of this secretary chic.


If Daniella wanted to stick with a dress, why didn't she make her model a great wrap dress. The woman said she loves comfort, she also is not adverse to color, she was wearing a pretty peachy/coral color T-shirt. It would give her a waist, be comfortable and not make her look like her grandmother.

Of course have we seen Daniella wear anything with color. She loves navy and black. I think Daniella doesn't like how her body looks and that was reflected in how she designed for her model.

The one on Bravo's site looks even more matronly as they got rid of the navy and the extra details that gave the outfit any interest at all.

Reco better start simplifying if he hopes to win. Ruffles and pleats are bad on this show.

I guess Keith was the right choice to go home. Any of the bottom three could have gone. Though I would have put Johnny in the bottom and sent him home. His model may have liked his dress(at least she appeared to), but it was right out of a bad 80's rap video.


"Finally! You can stop cutting yourself and go out!"

I now have food on my computer screen.


Wow, the whining was just weird. PR has had some truly difficult figures to dress, but none of these women had major problems. When the designers whined and whined, I kept wondering who it is they think will buy their clothes?

Makes me miss some of the PR designers who truly were gracious about the real-women challenges--Jerrell and the student, Uli with Kayne's mother. I always thought Uli should have won that one because she came up with a really attractive outfit for an older heavy woman. Or heck, the PR designers with the drag challenge--Korto and Sweetie Pie.

I assumed Daniella won because she did a decent outfit for a common figure type--lot more women built like that than Reco's model.

But, sheesh, while Daniella and Reco are the two with the skills, it's hard to remember with both of them being so damn bratty.


I have a couple of things to say.
1) I don't think the 'prize' for the very very lame mini-challenge was all that great. I mean she got to put someone in the bottom, big whoop. The Judges still picked who would go out. Now if it was a team challenge and she got to put someone in the bottom that wasn't on the losing team, that would have been useful. But in this situation, it really wasn't a great prize. Additionally, that was a prize that belonged on Survivor, not on a show that claims that it is looking for actual talent.
Lastly, it put her in a position to be hated. Atleast she had the good graces to look soooo uncomfortable and I don't remember her gloating or asking people to kiss her butt about it.

2) Why didn't the designers expect this challenge and realize that there were better ways to talk about their feelings. I understand Daniella getting upset. She is a recent graduate, given a lousy prize that put additional pressure on her and this is a stressful situation. I would have cried too. But James-Paul saying that working with 'these types of bodies' was akin to asking Christ to work with Satan was insulting on a lot of levels. I understand that the 'fashion industry' requires you to design clothes for 'hangers' so that is what they are used to doing. I can understand that they may say "I am not familiar with designing clothes for these particular body types' but won't I don't respect is the attitude of "Oh gross, I don't think I should ever be forced to design for these hideous bodies" or the stupidity of saying "I will never have to design clothes for women over 25 and size 2". It has been repeat many times bu I think I best from the mentor on Project Runway Canada, Brian Bailey, that most of the women that can afford to buy these high end clothes are sizes 10,12 and 14 (Season 1 Episode 8). I am not a size 10-14 but I certainly have areas of my body that are not 'model' shaped. I don't know if this (designing things that only look good on size zeros) is pushed in fashion school but if it is, that needs to stop.

3) I hated Johnnys dress. To me it looks like what a street walker would save up to buy for a nice night out with her want-to-be rapper/pimp boyfriend. I think the base idea was ok but the execution is just so tacky. Remember What Nina Says: Shiny, short and tight, No no no no.

4) Recco is annoying and would be a horrible person for me to have to share a work room with BUT I respect him more for his attitude. He designs for the women he sees around him and seemed to genuinely appreciate these womens bodies.

That is all I can think of right now. I just had foot surgery yesterday and I am high on vicodan so I apologize for rambling, misspellings and incoherentness.


I don't watch this show, but it occurs to me that maybe James-Paul was saying that he shuns designing normal clothes, and that these, being "real" women, would want normal, conformist clothes. That they were asking them to "disguise" their so-called flaws implies that they want to conform to the "norm."

I don't like the idea of disguising or hiding so-called flaws. OK, maybe if you have a hump in your back or one arm is shorter than the other (no disrespect to people who have these problems), but having big hips, a short waist, short legs, big breasts, etc. are just characteristics. Plus, no matter what you do to hide them, there they are. "Hiding" them often accentuates them. Dress to your strengths and don't get hung up on your "flaws."

I'd like to see some of these designers make a dress for the most fabulous women around today, like Michelle Obama, Jessica Biel, Jennifer Hudson, Angelina Jolie, Eva Longoria (short!), etc.--all of whom have one or more "figure flaws."

Reco's work with strippers no doubt stood him in good stead on this challenge.


Reco should've won. Period.


LaFemmeFataledeNY

Not sure if you saw this, but Jezebel mentioned your post:

http://jezebel.com/5280448/designers-on-the-fashion-show-cry-when-faced-with-real-women


I think maybe they're just deeply, deeply delusional. Or maybe no one told them this would be a real show, aired on the TeeVee. That would explain not bothering to know how to sew as well as making comments that will only serve to have you flamed in the forums (Jesus, JP? Really? I mean, couldn't you just go to Hitler instead?).

I didn't go to design school, much to my chagrin, so I may be way off base here. And far be it from me to defend the gnashing of teeth over a bosom or a butt. However...These folks want to be fashion designers, not dressmakers. In their fantasy, they will only have to come up with fabulous sketches, select gorgeous fabrics, and cast models. I assure you that the designers at Prada aren't saying "But how will this look in a size 14?" Not their problem. Their job is to make beautiful garments--and to the Modern Eye, those look best long and narrow. It's culturally defined, sure, but it is what it is. And our intrepid designers--especially those just out of design school--don't think they should have to worry about curves or "flaws" either.

Maybe they're all from Old Order Mennonite communities and have never seen a reality show before.


How is this Fashion Show crowd as judges supposed to play out? I imagine there is a sort of call out to people in the industry in NYC, and people show up. The first few probably brought out some big names, everyone probably thought it would be a fun way to spend an afternoon, but eventually people will tire of it and you end up with the bottom of the barrel of the NYC fashion world.

Does the crowd even know the design brief? 2/3 would buy a particular look? OK, great, but does it actually work for the challenge at hand? This is all just so amazingly silly.

And the way the show is edited, I have no idea what the people who weren't the bottom 3 or top 2 did. The only time I saw them was when the models wandered about in the dark on the runway. I've made no connection to any of these people because the editing has not allowed me to get to know them. That is the top problem with the quick challenge, it takes time from me getting to know the contestants, and it adds nothing to make up for that.

Comparing to PR again. By this point in the cycle I would have a handful of people I was rooting for and a handful I was rooting against. Based on both talent and personality. I don't know any of these people, my only thought on the elimination this week was that I was happy for Keith being able to escape from this car wreck of a show.


sally said:
"And I'm inclined to think it is currently "so chic" because it used to be regarded as "so taboo," and not becuase many people actually think it looks good. Because it doesn't. At all."

Thank you. I think I was afraid that my hatred of the navy/black combo was just me being a fuddy-duddy, but honestly, the colors are two similar to provide a decent contrast while at the same time two different to be complementary. Now that I know I'm not alone, I will just continue with my hate-on for the navy/black combo and not feel bad about it. :)


hold on...I wasn't done! It's a testament to the assiness of the other dresses that Johnny's horrid stripper dress and Haven's Space Hooker weren't in the bottom simply b/c they were sewn together properly.


"Why not just have a spelling bee next week?"


Hahahahahaha. How do you spell Karl Lagerfeld backwards in 5 seconds?

Hey, don't give them ideas, Tlo : )


I thought given the imagination & fun of last week's episode, this show was improving. Apparently it peaked @ the same time.
Keith lost it for me when I realized that red barf bag with a sash was the best he could do for such a beautiful Jane Leeves look a like.


Regardless of Reco's trash talk, which I think is funny & clever, he's the only contestant that has sewing skills, imagination & talent.
But like Sandhurst on MMAS, on Bravo that means he might get runner up.


This show is slowly becoming must watch tv just because it's so disastrous. And what was that monstrosity posing as an Isaac original? Yikes! My thought when seeing Daniella's design was that it was an Edith Head creation for a 50's movie - but I'll cheerfully accept Ethel Mertz instead. Keith's execution was clearly terrible but the concept wasn't all that bad and there were several really hideous creations. The other thing that struck me was that they clearly saved both Angel and Merlin because of their past creations rather than because theirs were better than the loser. So much for its being a weekly competition.


Dear TLo,
I was trying to sleep last night, after that, um, "show", and one image kept flashing in front of my eyes. Tell me if I am wrong, and I know you are the ones who can, that the collar, neckline and overall silhouette of Daniella's win is the spitting image of Bette Davis in "All about Eve?" At her cocktail party, where she delivers her famous line?

Thanks,
path


Nah, I was too kind. Never trust convictions made on too little sleep. Not as glamorous as Bette Davis, more like Celeste Holm.


Haven was robbed. She had the best design, but again, they gave it to the easiest thing to be manufactured. How boring.


Path, I can see where your sleepy brain was going but when you do the google image search, it doesn't really hold up.


7 said "And the way the show is edited, I have no idea what the people who weren't the bottom 3 or top 2 did. The only time I saw them was when the models wandered about in the dark on the runway."

I am so frustrated by the same thing! I have very little idea what the other designs look like -- until I see the photos here on the fabulous Tom and Lorenzo!


Reco should quit this bullshit and hit up TFS to replace Kelly Rowland.


J-P took a woman with slightly wide shoulders and turned her into a linebacker. That outfit was horrible.


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TFS episode 5 just showed up in my Hulu queue. I suspect this means viewership on the show is down because Bravo never seems to release new things (or even old) to Hulu.


Trillion said...Reco should quit this bullshit and hit up TFS to replace Kelly Rowland. 6/5/09 6:12 PM
I wrote a post on Keith's interview thread about mentors, but I like this idea sooo much.

I can see Reco going around with his own special brand of criticism and praise. "Confidence is the new black ... Get some," "Now THIS is fashion, let the games begin, let the games begin!"

I'm in.


" a said...
Trillion said...Reco should quit this bullshit and hit up TFS to replace Kelly Rowland. 6/5/09 6:12 PM
I wrote a post on Keith's interview thread about mentors, but I like this idea sooo much.

I can see Reco going around with his own special brand of criticism and praise. "Confidence is the new black ... Get some," "Now THIS is fashion, let the games begin, let the games begin!"

I'm in."



I can't stand him.


I know James Paul wasn't really interested in working in a world devoid of rubik's cubes and stealth fighters (which by the way JP are about soooo 20 years ago)...but that poor woman ended up looking more like a linebacker in that outfit than she did in her own clothes.


I really hated the mini challenge this week. It's so stupid and irrelevant. Why didn't they just ask designers to sketch Kelly's hair style or her makeup? Isaac Mizrahi is getting very annoying lately. I miss Project Runway...


By the way, Daniella reminds me a lot of Boy George. No wonder she always looks so familiar....


Unlike everyone who HATES the show and is going to STOP WATCHING, I am enjoying it. I think what I am going to do is stop reading the comments, though. I love TLo's comments and have been reading since they started blogging, but with the exception of a few really knowledgeable posters, (Sewing Siren and Gotham Tomato, I'm talking about you in particular!) everyone else does nothing but gripe about the show and how it "just doesn't measure up!" It isn't PR, and it isn't Broadway, and it isn't fine literature - it is funny escapist reality TV, and some of y'all are taking it WAY too seriously!! Have fun with it, dog the designers, hate on the judges, laugh at the silly stuff. It is still better than most of the series on the big 4 networks on any given night!

I'm going to miss Keith. I didn't think he was going to win, but he was definitely better than a lot of the others in the middle of the pack. He fell prey to the Robert Best critique. Both were cute guys who were fun to watch but weren't crazy enough to keep on!


I now officially hate this show. I hate the contestants, the judges, and the designs. With the exception of the challenge last week, I've hated all the the challenges, too.

What the hell are they teaching people in design school? What do you mean, "I don't work with real people!"? Like some of the similar PR challenges, I found this challenge insulting and depressing.

UGH! I think that at this point, I'm only downloading it so that I can read what you guys write about the show, but after this episode, I might spare myself the agony and spend that hour oh, I don't know, sewing something fabulous for my size 24 body.

PEH!


i'm not dorothy gale

Fashion aside, what IS with Isaac and those high collars he wears? Is he channeling a casual Karl Lagerfeld look? I thought his mini challenge dress was godawful, on a par with some of the dreck turned out by PR alums, pleats and all.

I don't know, guys. This show is becoming tedious with its contrived "meet ya in the hall and we'll talk" chats.


I saw Daniella's dress and my immediate thought was "oh. Wasn't that from the Mad Men wardrobe department for Peggy's Mom or sister?"

And then I thought... "jeeze. If she was going that way, why not go for more of a Joan Look - much more elegant and sexy."

I miss Mad Men :::sigh:::.


Such a weird show. A few thoughts. The instant I saw Daniella (who puckers her mouth like Renee Zellweger) put her model on the runway (after severely dissing her for not only her size but also their lack of communicado and rapport), with the stand up coller, I thought: ANGELA'S MOM and JEFFERY from PR. Same coller, same WTF kind of dress, similar color scheme. This was her homage to a person, like Angela's mom, that Daniella herself would NEVER design for and it showed. Watch out, this B seems to have Heather in her pocket. He likes her mind (?) I thought this dress looked very Mizrahi, and would be an example of something (hopefully in a different color) the First Lady would, unfortunately, get behind. She loves her two piece dealies with belts and full skirts. Yikes! We universally agree that it was not any kind of great ensemble and indeed made the model's waist accentuated, did not make her look cool and boobilicious and she seemed to be naturally. One thumb down for this dress. I was the lack of other good work that kept it in contention, and we all know that.

Reco's was fun. I did like it (the red frou frou was well done, his model claimed to like it) but it is a catalog clothing, skin-tight "Victoria's Secret" or somesuch idea of alleged corporate/office wear. Dreck, actually, a very low rent version of "competitive" business dressing. Get your money's worth out of something classy, model, not that get-up, although it was a fun confection for what it was. A lot of nice detailing in the seams.

She is so far from a winning personality but thus far the Daniella is winning. It won't be Reco. I'd say, "wanna bet?" but this is TV and he is gonna Jerrell himself. I like his JJ humor. I do not think one iota of it is meant offensively. I see there is a sexual tension smack down between him and the blond Evans next week. He is just being his oinking self, like at a dorm in college. Venting. He won't win.


I left comments on Bravo which didn't "take," which I find rather suspicious. They were mild considering how I felt about the winner and this episode in general. I found the designers' reactions to normal womens bodies distasteful. Who do they think their customers will be? And have any of them looked in the mirror recently? They all have normal bodies and manage to dress themselves in innovative ways, yet they can't translate their talents to the real world? Puhlease. That Daniella's frumpy outfit was the winner tells me one of two things: either the designers are really really lousy and she is the best of the lot, or the judges hate women. The Ethel Mertz comparison is spot on. All these designers need to do is study classy middle aged women like Susan Sarandon or Helen Mirren to see what looks good on them. That should give them a clue.

Until this week I was rooting for this show, but disappointment in this episode doesn't begin to describe my reaction. I'm done.


The winning dress is nice, but too mature for the woman wearing it. It looks like something someone in her mid-to-late fifties would wear for a night on the town.


I hope that an obese woman sits on James Paul and crushes him. His reaction to this challenge absolutely disgusted me. Jesus and Satan? Really?


" Jenny said...

I hope that an obese woman sits on James Paul and crushes him. His reaction to this challenge absolutely disgusted me. Jesus and Satan? Really?"


LOL. I have a LOT to say about that but I'll wait for Tlo's post.


Three things I can't stand about this show:

First, it seems the winning designs are chosen based upon if they can be recreated for mass consumption, rather than they are truly the best design.

Second, the set and lighting for the fashion show is so dark - why, God, why?

Third, Kelly and Isaac's walk through is pointless. Instead of someone coming in to evaluate and encourage, it feels like they are just getting a look so they can run out of the room and make fun of them. Kelly's comment at the end, "I can't wait, I'm so excited!" doesn't mask their bitchiness.


Vic
6/6/09 8:56 AM I left comments on Bravo which didn't "take," which I find rather suspicious. They were mild considering how I felt about the winner and this episode in general.



The Bravo site sucks big time. And I've seen some of those comments. You know that they have their little friends write in, and the contestants put up their fair share of comments as well.

When all of bitch Daniella's comments read:

"I don't care if you're snooty, that lady was fat and ugly. You're the BEST!"

how could you expect any criticism to be printed?


Kimberly said...
Three things I can't stand about this show:

First, it seems the winning designs are chosen based upon if they can be recreated for mass consumption, rather than they are truly the best design.


Kimberly,
First let me say I'm not picking on you quite a lot of posters have similar sentiments. I have to say that Daniella's was by far NOT the easiest or cheapest garment for production. And I truely do not know what show every body else was watching, but in my opinion and if IRC the opinion of may posters that follow TLo PR frequently did not pick the Best design for the win or the Auf.


Second, the set and lighting for the fashion show is so dark - why, God, why?
The darkness and quickness of the runway portion of PR was always a source of frustration for me, too. I don't know why, now maybe Lifetime will improve that.



Third, Kelly and Isaac's walk through is pointless. Instead of someone coming in to evaluate and encourage, it feels like they are just getting a look so they can run out of the room and make fun of them. Kelly's comment at the end, "I can't wait, I'm so excited!" doesn't mask their bitchiness.

I don't understand why everybody hates Kelly. She's not even in it that much.I took the "I can't wait" comment at face value. I thought she was excited about the coming show.


The winning design was meh.


This show has so many issues for me that Kelly is at the bottom of the list of what's wrong. I don't really have a problem with her, but I'm confused why she's qualified to be a judge. I don't see how having Beyonce's mom provide wardrobe for a few years qualifies you to judge fashion. But that's my opinion.


my favourite line of the whole episode has got to be isaacs on johnny getting the belt exactly right on the mini challenge: "johnny is like the idiot savant of belts" :D
there's just no end to his wisdom!


i still don't get the bashing on this show; it's much better now that it's individual challenges. i still think the hosts are more natural than MMAS terrible over the top still delivery. i agree it seems that some of the designers aren't as talented as former PR seasons, but these sorts of challenges are very difficult to execute in short time and it's hard to tell.

i wish they would show the runway show more and have less fancy editing.

would like to hear comments on more than 5 of the dresses

i also agree Rico's dress was more creative, but how many ladies can pull that off? Danielle's was more for the masses that's for sure.

keep trying show! you're close!


Well, this certainly was another perplexing episode of "Guess What's Happening."

First, it should be noted that Daniella's meltdown was excerpted into a teaser commercial for the show, and we didn't see it in the actual show. It could have been completely taken out of context and might not have been a meltdown at all. After all, this show is shamelessly taking quit cuts out of context, trying to create drama.

I thought Reco's outfit was well-made but stupid. Who would wear that skin-tight hooker look to the office or to an event? He did pick up on the "hint" to use ruffles in the second challenge, but surrounded the pretty blouse with a horror show.

Daniella's outfit was very conservative but attractive. So what if it was an amalgam of every standard trick in the book to make somebody look slimmer? I wish a lot more clothing for larger women did exactly that. Likewise, so what if it was Ethel Merman? It flattered her client, who was obviously happy with the silhouette.

Further, as Nina would say approvingly, it was "impeccable."

Everybody is so fast to buy into the show's editors' implication that Daniella is "the bitch" personality. Bunk. She just looks like an incredible perfectionist who gets a tad irritated by lesser quality work getting the nod.

Well, who wouldn't?

Daniella for the win.


I don't get this show.
The mini challenge was stupid and pointless and the winning design was boring and old. I also dislike the fact that a designer who had a nervous breakdown because she had to sew for a woman with a "normal" figure won.


Daniella's outfit was very conservative but attractive. So what if it was an amalgam of every standard trick in the book to make somebody look slimmer?

The model did not look slimmer. She looked older and dumpier. Take a look at her in jeans and a top. She's young and has an ordinary woman's body. I'm willing to bet her weight is in the normal range. Daniella succeeded in making this poor woman look decades older. My mother, who is similar in height and has same body type, would not be caught dead in that outfit. Members of the audience said they would purchase the dress - I wonder if any of them ordered it online. Frankly, given some of the wonderful fashion out there, I doubt it.


What's more about Daniella's outfit, there was NO HEM on her skirt or jacket.

So this "getting irritated by lesser quality" angle is straight up bull.

Well, at least we know that a family member posts here.


A bit late to say, but how I wish the winning dress had a "V" neck, not the large circle. The circle made her look chubby, a V is sexier and draws the eye somehow to the body in a better way. Her model was robbed!


Sewing Siren ...

Thanks for the dialogue, darling. I love it that we can discuss without anger.

"I have to say that Daniella's was by far NOT the easiest or cheapest garment for production. And I truely do not know what show every body else was watching, but in my opinion and if IRC the opinion of may posters that follow TLo PR frequently did not pick the Best design for the win or the Auf."

What I'm trying to say is I wonder if the winner is a garment the producers believe will sell the most? I don't like most of the stuff on QVC either, but that shit sells like crazy.

"The darkness and quickness of the runway portion of PR was always a source of frustration for me, too. I don't know why, now maybe Lifetime will improve that."

Yeah, if they don't get it right either they know something we don't and are geniuses or dumb as doorknobs.

"I don't understand why everybody hates Kelly. She's not even in it that much.I took the "I can't wait" comment at face value. I thought she was excited about the coming show."

I don't hate Kelly at all. It's just that the production staff's idea for them to talk in the back room is supposed to generate interest, but instead comes off looking IMO like they are looking at the garments early just so they can criticize them in the back room. I'd probably like the "walk through" better if Kelly did it by herself and asked more questions about what they were doing.

Thanks.


SUS said: I don't see how having Beyonce's mom provide wardrobe for a few years qualifies you to judge fashion. But that's my opinion.

If nothing else, it gave her a valuable lesson in what a woman should never, ever wear. Poor girl.

I like Kelly just fine. I don't know if the show has a stylist of if Kelly dresses herself, but she always looks great. She hasn't said anything earth-shattering yet, but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. It's possible they won't let her do anything more than she's doing right now. And, like anyone who's been watching reality shows for a while, I'm skeptical about how everyone on this show is portrayed.

Anonymous @ 10:412 said: Well, at least we know that a family member posts here.

I don't know if that's a joke, but not everyone here hated Daniella's dress. I get why a lot of people don't like it, but there's no logical reason to assume that anyone who does is related to Daniella.

I'm a little shocked at myself, but she's starting to grow on me.


I have to say, I actually did like the neckline on Daniella's dress. A "v" neckline would point downward to the girls, whereas the slightly oval one she chose to use frames the face and keeps the attention on it -- exactly what you want to be accomplishing as a way of keeping attention off any figure flaws below. Also, the oval neckline is much more professional and correct for work wear.

Plus, it was a very flattering shape, not just the usual upside down bowl shape.

I thought Daniella worked very hard to distinguish this outfit with the details. And notwithstanding that everybody seems to be mindlessly buying the producers' editing to create "the bitch" character, I think she's probably an extremely nice woman in person.

And no, I'm not a family member. That crack comes from our lurking Anon who persists in trying to provoke arguments. Sorry, "not buying it."


The worst part about Daniella's "prize" for the mini-challenge is that it didn't give her any power at all. It didn't change the judges' ability to send home whomever they wanted.


I'm so glad you guys confirm my thoughts on the "winning" look. It wasn't bad by any means, but it didn't really interest me either and I surely didn't covet. I really liked Johnny's and the pink dress for the girl with the big and proud hiney (minus the weird collar.)

In other news, James Paul is a douchebag. Jesus working with Satan indeed.

It got better last week but maybe that was a fluke. This week's show was once again kinda snoozy.


Your "cutting yourself" comment is not funny.


I'm noticing on the end credits a statement that the results also are influenced by the producers.

That said, I dying until PR is on the air. I will stay with FS til the end, just because.

Also how do they get so many people to sit for the runway? Are most production staff used to fill the seats and a few from the industry?

I really appreciate your blog, and I hope there might be a plus-size challenge just to see the sturm und drang.


""Sure, it's got its good points, but she basically looked at a woman who isn't a size zero and translated that as 'Ethel Mertz.'""

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU. I couldn't believe that was one of the top two -- it was mind-bogglingly dowdy. Not retro, dowdy. However, when it went up against Reco, I turned to my husband and said, "Not a PRAYER they can afford to reproduce that for retail." Yup.

My husband's comment was "Why wasn't it "Make the most of your model's assets" instead of "Hide her flaws"?"


Daniella's dress was reasonably well-designed, well-constructed, and did have nice details. However, it failed at the cardinal rule of this challenge: It did not make its model look good. She looked heavier and dowdier than when she was wearing jeans and a t-shirt. It may have been an age issue for Daniella as much as a size issue. Maybe this is what she thinks "middle-aged" women (30s) should wear.

It might have worked in a different fabric. To me that heavy-looking, kind of shiny fabric just ruined the skirt. It stood out stiffly. It was reminiscent of Dior's "New Look" which was supposedly a return to femininity after the shoulder pads and Rosie the Riveters of WW2. Full skirt, usually stiffly crinolined, tight waist. Fit and flare is a good silhouette but this is too stiff and structured IMO.


I actually think that out of the top two Reco deserved the win over Daniella. He design made her model and any who attempts to buy/wear it look old. Seriously it aged her model her body didn't look bad though. I just didnt' understand it.

I agree with Keith going he's been underwelming since day 1!


First of all Daniela's dress looked like a knock off Heather Mizrahi Target dress. No. 2. I thought it was ridiculous of her to be so over dramatic over designing for a "real" woman. Her model (who has a perfectly respectable figure, btw) is the type of woman who buys clothes. Most of the typical fashion consumer is not a 5'10" and built like a pre-teen boy. No. 3. She is like the exact same size as her model(maybe a little bigger). Has she never made a piece of clothing for herself? So, I definitely call bullshit on her kvetching about her model's proportions. And, no.4. Yes, Reco's designs often have "taste" issues, but they are always well constructed and executed. And, honestly, in the real world, I could totally see many women wearing his outfit. It may not be high fashion but it definitely was marketable.


I found it rather ironic that a lot of the girls who were complaining about "UGH MY MODEL ISN'T STICK SKINNY" are not exactly thin themselves. Daniella complained a good amount, and while she looks good, she's not exactly a size two (or six, or ten, for that matter). Her (and others') complaints were tantamount to them whining about dressing themselves. Daniella and Haven -- you guys dress yourselves every day. Do you yell at yourselves for not being a size zero?

Guess what? Your designs have to translate to different sizes to make any money at all. The only possible exception to this is if you solely make red carpet dresses for young celebrities, who are rarely over a size six.

Tom and Lorenzo made a good point -- all these women had above average figures. None of them were quite model skinny, but they all had bodies that were not particularly difficult to dress.

I'm tired of the complaints about dressing "real women" -- and it should be obnoxious and offensive to ANY woman, regardless of size.

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