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Gwen Stefani in ELLE magazine

Gwen Stefani in Elle, ladies.


"On being a mother: “It’s one thing when you have an infant, but when you have this two-or three-year-old going, ‘Mommy, what’s the deal?’ it’s harder. Kingston’s whole thing is, ‘I need, I need.’ He is insane right now. We’re just hoping for the best and that he’s not going to turn out to be a freak, but we’ll see.”


On celebrity: “Obviously, I’m not anything more than I am. I’m just, like, totally normal. The fact that any of this has happened, that we’re sitting here at the Beverly Hills Hotel just gets me going, like, What?”


On leaving No Doubt: “Everybody’s making it like there’s all this new tension, you know, like I stepped away from the band and now they’re jealous of me, and look, maybe there is a little bit of that.”


On how her priorities changed from band to family: “I wasn’t even married. Now I’m a wife and a mother of two. It’s a really different role. I always referred to No Doubt as a marriage, because that’s what it’s like to be together for so long and go through what we’ve been through. I can’t really have that relationship with them anymore. My priorities are always going to be my husband and my family now. That’s a huge, huge thing.”


Blahblahblah. That's all very interesting in a not-so-interesting sort of way, but what people want to know is, "What do T Lo think of the editorial?"

Well, here's what we think of the editorial.




Louis Vuitton Fall 2009 Collection
Model: Olga Sherer


Love it.

Lorenzo just spent a fevered 5 minutes detailing everything that is WRONGWRONGWRONG about this layout and then ended it with "But then again, I can't stand her." It's true. He can't roll his eyes hard enough whenever her name comes up because he thinks she's a major poser who got some very lucky breaks along the way.


Current/Elliot tie-dye jeans

Like that shirt.

To which Tom always replies "How is that different from a million other celebrities out there?" And Lorenzo says that it just IS, okay?




Alexander McQueen Fall 2009
Model: Amanda Laine


That is gorgeous and they fucked it up by showing so little of it.

This is all just a roundabout way of saying that, while Lorenzo had some valid complaints - namely that the composition of the pictures wasn't all that great - they were mostly fueled by his antipathy toward her. Look, everybody's got that one celebrity that inexplicably sets them off like nails on a chalkboard. Lorenzo's just got more than one celebrity in that particular file, that's all.




Rodarte Fall 2009 Collection
Model: Jourdan Dunn


Strangely not working for her.

We're both in agreement that it's a relatively uninspired layout, though. It just kinda sits there even though they picked fantastic, sometimes eye-popping clothes and had a model that even Lorenzo admits knows how to wear an outfit and how to take a good picture.

There. Those are the entirety of our thoughts on this editorial, laid out in loving detail. Discuss.


Behind-the-scened video:



[Scans: TheFashionSpot - Photos: Style.com]



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61 comments:
another laura

Thanks for these. GS is a yawn for me but at least she doesn't grate on my last nerve.

Does she always look this much like skinnier, platinumed Kate Winslet?

I can't believe how I still am goo-goo over those McQueen houndstooth creations. In the layout it looks like just another houndstooth. It is to sigh.


"Obviously, I'm not anything more than I am. I'm just, like, totally normal. The fact that any of this has happened, that we're sitting here at the Beverly Hills Hotel just gets me going, like, What?"

I'm with you, Lorenzo!


When I was 11 and Bush/No Doubt first became big, I HATED Gwen b/c she was dating Gavin and he was MINE! Haha. Since then I have grown and changed styles, Ms. Stefani's has not. She still dresses the same as she did in 1995 (same hair too). But she still has Gavin and two adorable kids, so you have to give her kudos for making it this far.


i pause in my yawn
to dig skanky ska colours,
-pass on platinum.


I will say the cover outfit looks better on Gwen than the model.

But I agree the layout isn't that great, and you're right about the Alexander McQueen. However, I really didn't need to see that makeup again. That is STILL disturbing.

Um, I like Gwen, but I don't LOVE her. She has a unique voice and uses it well. I liked her first solo album.


Lorenzo is right, Tom.

Now enough about Stefani, and put up more pictures of Lo...


In tight, tight, T-Shirts...


The first outfit is simply FAB.

The rest, enhh...

Stefani practically ruined ska from 1995 on, so I don't blame Lorenzo for feeling the way he does.



Now put up more pictures of Lorenzo.


In tight, tight, T-shirts...









Wait, did I already say that?


I love her.
I do agree with you guys on the layout and the quality of the photos, but I think she looks fabulous in these clothes.


I love the cover and the clothes are great, but I'm not feeling it.


CanIGetYouAnything?

Tom, I'm with you. She ROCKS!!!! LOVE. HER.


I'm so with you Lorenzo! Theres just something about her that drives me crazy. So even if the photos were amazing (which they weren't, although the one of her and her son was cute) I still wouldn't care.


I loved her when she was the front lady for No Doubt, but once she struck out on her own she was dead to me. Plus there was that really creepy phase where she was using live women as accessories, making them follow her around everywhere and not speak.


I don't really have an opinion about her one way or another, but the photos could have been so much better. They look like behind-the-scenes pics of the real photo shoot.


This editorial seemed to be all about GS and very little about the clothes and fashion. I buy fashion magazines for the FASHION. if I want a detailed profile of a rock sta I will but Rolling Stone. Note to fashion editors: More detailed pictures about the clothes/accessories, use more models and less celebrity peroid!

TampaBay


I don't really care about celebrity, but I do love pretty, and Gwen is pretty and so is her husband.


To me, Gwen is very much like Madonna, but with a bit less calculated business sense. They don't have a lot going on talent-wise, but they know how to use it to their advantage. Please don't flame me, Madonna fans. It's just my opinion. She does photograph really well, though.

I agree about the creepiness of the Harajuku girls as well. I think they were her producers' idea, but it was still a creepy Asian stereotype.


I love Gwen Stefani - so I expected to like this. The cow print pants on the one lay out are "meh".
I think she's got real style, but I'm not sure this layout really showed it.
Maybe too obviously funky/rocker in some?


Have to agree with Lorenzo on this one. I can not stand her or her band or her solo music. I do, however, love her husband.


I was a huge No Doubt fan and was excited to win her first solo album. OMG. What a disappointment. So filled with ego and mememememememememememe!!!! Since then, I totally can't stand her, and those interview excerpts aren't proving that she's any different.

As for the layout? *yawn*


LOVE her. I was Gwennie for Halloween when I was in high school, when she had the pink hair. I grew up in the same area as her, and heard No Doubt wayyy back in the time when ska-punk was edgy. Say what you will about her, but he has evolved with pop culture over the last 15 years and has always remained relevant with the kiddies (and me) without going to rehab or whoring around-I think that says something.


ChicagoKnitter

Well I have to say that Gwen has been my unofficial hero since high school. She helped me figure out that it was OK to have small boobs (she did back then before the kids came along) and an athletic frame, that you just had to be confident and proud to be yourself.

To say that she hasn't changed since 1995, I would disagree, she's definitely become more womanly and glamorous, she just hasn't forgotten her So. Cal roots.

That being said, I do agree with you that the layout of this shoot isn't that great (of what I've seen here) for showing the clothes in the best possible way, but come on Lo, you have to agree that this bitch knows how to wear clothes.


LOVE her. I was Gwennie for Halloween when I was in high school, when she had the pink hair. I grew up in the same area as her, and heard No Doubt wayyy back in the time when ska-punk was edgy. Say what you will about her, but she has evolved with pop culture over the last 15 years and has always remained relevant with the kiddies (and me) without going to rehab or whoring around-I think that says something.


Tampa Bay said:
This editorial seemed to be all about GS and very little about the clothes and fashion. I buy fashion magazines for the FASHION. if I want a detailed profile of a rock sta I will but Rolling Stone. Note to fashion editors: More detailed pictures about the clothes/accessories, use more models and less celebrity peroid!
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Absolutely, positively, could not agree more. I still pull out my vintage Vogues, Mademoiselles and Harpers Bazaars so I can look at fashion and REAL models. I'm frankly tired of these so called celebrities all over the fashion mags from cover to cover.


I can take or leave Miss Gwen. I certainly don't think she's one of our generation's great singers (I'm a snob that way), but I guess I appreciate the fact that she doesn't run around flaunting her substance abuse and her naughty bits.

And I like some of her handbags.

But the editorial? I agree about the composition. Photos not as interesting as they could have been.


Heh... I think Lorenzo should come sit by me. I have SEVERAL celebrities on my list, and they are well known to all of my friends and relations.


"Blahblahblah. That's all very interesting in a not-so-interesting sort of way, but what people want to know is, "What do T Lo think of the editorial?""

Damn straight. If I may say so, I think this is my favorite critique of an editorial you two have ever done.


Gwen is gorgeous and has a dramatic, non-slutty style that has consistency yet embraces change. In the talent department, she's got something. Anyone's who's seen her live can attest to this. Maybe she's no Alison Goldfrapp, but she has a unique voice and inspiring energy onstage. Better than most "singers" at her level of popularity. I'd much rather see her in McQueen than those hideously styled models.


Does anyone know who the photographer is? I wonder who the editor of Elle these days... I'll google for that later.

I love GS, Lorenzo is now out as my baby daddy. Although she does sound rather vapid in this interview.


I like the Louis Vuitton on Gwen better than on the model.

The Current/Elliot tie-dye jeans look is OK.

I like the McQueen, there have been other photos that frustrated me because they did not show off the clothes. This works for me because with McQueen, once the runway show is over, it's his textiles that resonate with me.

I like the Rodarte better on Gwen.

Having said all this, there is a meh-ness about this editorial from a fashion standpoint. This really is more of a celebrity profile, and a fluffy one at that. The picture with the baby is the best picture in terms of energy and being memorable.


"Lorenzo just spent a fevered 5 minutes detailing everything that is WRONGWRONGWRONG about this layout and then ended it with "But then again, I can't stand her.""

Too funny.

The McQueen dress is pretty gorgeous. Thank YOU for the picture that actually shows it. The Rodarte. . . I dunno, would that really look good on anyone?


Sort of reminds me of the most recent Urban outfitter's catalog. Only there are fewer trees and the clothes are better.


I love Gwen Stefani, really. but this layout and art direction is ass.


Uninspired layout, for sure.

And I won't say a word about GS, cause my husband is gaga over her. In as little clothing as possible. ::sigh::


"Lorenzo just spent a fevered 5 minutes detailing everything that is WRONGWRONGWRONG about this layout and then ended it with "But then again, I can't stand her."


Only 5 minutes? I could go on forever about how annoying she is. And, like Lorenzo, I have a list of others.

On top of that, the layout was pretty "meh".


vintagefashionlibrary said...

Uninspired layout, for sure.

And I won't say a word about GS, cause my husband is gaga over her. In as little clothing as possible. ::sigh::

Speaking of, when is Lady Gaga going to get her fashion magazine due? the crappy segment in Elle with her and Katy Perry was just boring. The Rolling Stones cover story was okay, but it was literally one picture.


I'd say it's not so strange that the last outfit wasn't working for her. It looked too damn shiny and the cowprint camo leggings are tacky.


Really off topic -- but is Shelly-O preggers? The tunic-y outfit she wore in San Francisco --other blousy things recently . . . the clothing choices have just gotten so bizarrely bad . . . and to have Maria in a matching outfit as if that really is "the look" everyone is going for . . . come on!


Dear TLo, I am someone with sharp and at times extreme "gut" reactions to people (of every stripe) and places. I know myself to be thus, and make allowances for it, in hopes others follow suit. Gwen (I am not a fan or not a fan, she's hard-working and o.k., not a ringing endorsement) is know for her red lipstick and cute figure. I had a boss (a snob and architect) who had a wife Gwen favors and just reminds me of in general. (I was much younger than her at the time and she used to copy what I wore! I thought that was not o.k. as much as it implied that the boss must have also wanted me to be more like her also - a vapid and not interesting sex subject and earth mother of no independence, which got me wrong about a thousand percent). So Gwen is a product of her husband. That is o,k. It doesn't threaten me, I don't copy other people and I don't want to be her. It doesn't make her a poseur (sp?) either. She simply does the fashion b/c she can, and it's free advertising.

I think Lo has amazing editorial prowess and I am addicted to this blog, but I must say, that you come off sounding a bit like Merlin going up against a reality tv girl here. It isn't worthy of you. Chill. Think of all the years people like me who saw thru Madonna (and she is of very local derivation, yikes!) have had her spluged down our throats for infinity. The more Madge recruited the more used that segement of the population was. I found her disingenuous and very power hungry in not a good way. I know you are all over Madge now, thank you souls. As far as the very pesky celebs go, some are offensive and some are kind of placid. Gwen is amorphous blond with red lips, kids and a cutie proprietary husband who chooses her. No biggie. Have a drink. She's not claiming to be the meaning of female human sexuality, like Ms. Oedipal Ciccone, now or ever. That chick BOTHERED ME. So, I do understand, but it is prudent to pick your battles, and I think you are. Just saying. Still friends?


I like the cover, but the editorial is not really interesting. I was never a fan but I like her edgy look and attitude.


"Barbh said...
I think Lo has amazing editorial prowess and I am addicted to this blog, but I must say, that you come off sounding a bit like Merlin going up against a reality tv girl here."


Let me guess why the comparison...because Lorenzo is Latin? The Latin going against the white girl?


Isabella - read ALL of this post. If you want to quote, make a point. I'm not re-writing my beliefs to make it easier for you to go off on a racial thing. It isn't. Period. Mis-took.


" Barbh said...

Isabella - read ALL of this post. If you want to quote, make a point. I'm not re-writing my beliefs to make it easier for you to go off on a racial thing. It isn't. Period. Mis-took."


I'll make a point. Why Merlin (a Latin gay guy) of all people to compare to? Your comment was rude and racial. As a Latin woman, I'm offended.


Isabella
6/23/09 10:09 PM " Barbh said...

Isabella - read ALL of this post. If you want to quote, make a point. I'm not re-writing my beliefs to make it easier for you to go off on a racial thing. It isn't. Period. Mis-took."


I'll make a point. Why Merlin (a Latin gay guy) of all people to compare to? Your comment was rude and racial. As a Latin woman, I'm offended.


BarbH has a well known history of having problems with the melanin- rich.

So, in other words, she's like many many nameless faces on the internet. Don't even waste your time reading what she has to say.
It's never anything really reletive to the conversation anyway.


Tough.The.End.


I’m somewhat indifferent, neither liking nor disliking her. I agree that the photos are, for the most part kind of ‘meh’ but I do love the shot of her and three guys in the Current/Elliot tie-dye jeans.


She really is a poser but No Doubt had some good songs so whatev. I find her personal style anathema and this layout did nothing for me. Yawnfest.


"So Gwen is a product of her husband."
She was with No Doubt and doing her thing long before she was with Gavin.

I like Gwen; she did some good stuff with No Doubt, and, as somebody upthread said, she isn't a train wreck like a lot of the more annoying celebs. That said, she doesn't seem to be exactly a rocket scientist, but she doesn't have to be.

I don't think they did enough with her in this spread. She has a great face and body for certain looks, and they just wasted her here. The cover is great, but the rest of the spread doesn't really give a good view of Gwen or the clothes. The close-up of her face is good, though.

Lorenzo can be annoyed to death with her. We all have celebs (and real folks)that just get on our last nerves. At least she isn't somebody that is all over the tabloids and mags all the time.


Looks like TFS provided the lighting.

She's good, the clothes are interesting and edgy, the type of thing she pulls off so well. Even when the lights are ON.

57 days and counting until Project Runway.


If you can't be impartial; maybe you shouldn't blog her editorial. That's one thing that sometimes pisses me off about you guys. You go fucking ga-ga over Jay's ugly banana print fabric because he gives you freebies and then slam a celebrity you deem less than worthy, regardless of the fact she has not aged a day in 15 years.


" Anonymous said...

If you can't be impartial; maybe you shouldn't blog her editorial."

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. There is no requirement of impartiality in blogging. In fact, it's the exact opposite of what is required: strong opinions.


Larry
6/24/09 6:48 AM " Anonymous said...

If you can't be impartial; maybe you shouldn't blog her editorial."

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. There is no requirement of impartiality in blogging. In fact, it's the exact opposite of what is required: strong opinions.



That sounds too much like it makes sense.

Gwen's publicist above isn't going to get it.


Barb said...
Tough.The.End.

6/23/09 10:22 PM






Profound.


"...she's a major poser who got some very lucky breaks along the way."

That describes Posh "trying too hard" Beckham perfectly. I'm not an impressed lemming.

GS doesn't do much for me either. Ehhh, whatever. Sure, you're cool, I guess... yawn.


She wears clothes well, I'll give her that. If she would just do like Posh and stop trying to sing...


I am not a huge GS fan, but I am desperately invested in maintaining the public perception that she is hip, young and cool.

Why? Gwennie's a few months older as I am. As long as she's not an old, lame cow, neither am I.

Because, seriously. It's all about me, here.


Ugh. She irritates me to no end.

She seems capable of projecting exactly two "emotions" on film & video-- weepy, tragic Kewpie doll; and inexplicably-hostile, Judo-kicking Kewpie doll.

Insufferable.


Ok I'm going to talk about the clothes and the layout.

First the layout: Who did they hire; an intern? WTF? Those have got to be the worst frigging pictures for a fashion layout I've ever seen! What's up with the sun--all it did was wash out the clothes and the model. If you guys didn't put the runway below the layout photo I wouldn't have been able to see the clothes at all and would have thought they came from her own closet. I'm not kidding.

Second the model: Ok she's a celebrity that quit the band and decided her children were more important. She's not the first to make that decision and she won't be the last...what's the big deal? She's got the body for the clothes that is for sure but again, why hire her for a photo shoot? Why not just interview her for Rolling Stone. Elle is a fashion magazine and GS (whatever your opinion of her) is not a fashionista. Or is it that Elle couldn't find a model in time for the shoot? Who is hiring these people? And why?

So my opinion; wrong photographer, wrong model and just wrong, wrong, wrong! Elle you missed the target on this one. I'm surprised those photos even made it past the photo editor much less the editor-in-chief.

Where is Miranda Priestly when she was so deperately needed? LMAO!!!


She looks just like Holly Madison (and that's not a compliment) in a lot of these shots. Very plastic and fake looking. Not her best.


I think Brian Griffin summed it up best:

"I just spent all morning watching a VH1 special on Gwen Stefani. I don't know what a Hollaback girl is. All I know is that I want her dead."


Ooo...I'm not going to pile on the Gwen hate. It's not her fault...
- that a fashion mag is trying to be Rolling Stone

- that US Vogue photographers take too much Xanax to have a creative thought

- that she looked like she was styled as part of one of the Mini Challenges on The Fashion Show.

Someone upthread commented that she didn't forget her Southern California roots. I took a close look at the top of her head and I beg to differ!


It has always amused me how she has kept up with the younger set culture, yet she is older than I am. I was out with a couple of young twenty somethings after work and they couldn't believe this.





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