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The Fashion Show Previews!

This one's got it all, bitches!

In this installment:

Check out Heather's gay kabuki dance! He's gone way past talking with his hands, darlings! He's talking with his HIPS now! Look out!

Also, Kelly? No one cares.

James-Paul: AIEE! HIPS!


And in Part 2 of our thrilling tale:

It's the Reco Show!

Later, El Pollo Loco forgets his hat.




And finally...drama!

Daniella & Haven:
"You're fat!"
"No, YOU'RE FAT!"

and later...

Daniella:
"Size eights make me weep!"




[Photos/Videos: BravoTV.com]


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124 comments:

I do understand these designers are used to models built like, well, the hangers for their clothing that they are. BUT COME ON. Are you really must of a designer if you cannot design for anyone bigger than a size 0? You certainly wouldn't be one that sells any of your designs...


oh puleeze!


What a surprise, another person Daniella has a problem with...

And what are they competing for? Their own clothing line for department stores?

Is most of the shopping public size 0-1?


It's not like Daniella is a 00 here, or an 8 - does she think she doesn't deserve to wear clothes?

These are my favorite episodes.


I thing the TLounge should be resurrected.

No need to grant a prize, just bragging rights on who knows the show best, hosts excluded.

Who's going this week?

Haven Sugarbaker, MexiJaySamurai or Disappointed Midwestern Mom Keith?

We can count out NuKenley. Bitches have staying power, like roaches.


I hope at least one of the designers is intrigued by the challenge and approaches it with enthusiasm. So far, all of the clips are emphasizing how yucky it is to dress big people. And considering how some of them aren't size 2 themselves, that's ironic.


I have officially fallen out of love with James-Paul. And shut up Samurai Johnny. What kind of fantasy world do these people live in?


Ok - so I get that creating a dress for a non-size 0 may be more challenging. But why are they reacting and talking about it like the new models have some sort of disease? To be honest - those new models look tiny as well!

I am sure Daniella and Haven have made clothes for themselves before...and they are not a size 0! So I hope they don't use the size of the new models' as an excuse for why the competition is so hard.

Nonetheless...can't wait to see the results! =)


This show is so frustrating and ridiculous!

That's why I can't stop watching it.


Love how the bitch points out the padded dressform.

Bitch, it looks like YOU!

Ugh! She SO needs to be smacked.


Biodiva said, "It's not like Daniella is a 00 here. . . .does she think she doesn't deserve to wear clothes?"

Good point. Though we don't know if Daniella was fretting over her grossly gigantic model or if she'd simply run out of ideas. Whatever the reason for her meltdown, I'm sure it was a very, very good one.


Ok, now I'm really excited about watching this one. :)

And James-Paul has lost me, too.

Merlin looks cute w/o the hats!


I'm sympathetic. They learn to design for specific small sizes. Later, in the manufacturing process, patternmakers size it up to fit various normal body shapes, right? But tonight, not only will the designers be pushed to eyeball it for larger body sizes, but must do it in a very short time. Pressure-cooker time!

It seems to me that designers can't just say, "A REAL body size, not the usual starved-to-the-bone model size? WAAAAAAAH!" That would be completely immature, and there has to be something more substantaive to their anxiety.

Or maybe not.

So as I see it, tonight's viewer challenge is to pick out each designer's reason for being stressed out and then see what it says about that designer: experience vs. inexperience, maturity vs. immaturity, valid vs. bogus, legitimate vs. excuses, confidence vs. panic, etc.


Second challenge: guess Heather's inner monologue when doing that kabuki dance.

Example: "Yes, a Target dress CAN be floaty, feminine, Cinderella!"


I love your blog. And reading this reminded me why I shouldn't be reading this while I'm working at a public desk..... I was snickering so loudly that I had to turn around in my chair and compose myself.....


You know, the PR designers had the same issue when they had to design for "real women" whatever the heck that means. It's not just this group.


"Check out Heather's gay kabuki dance! He's gone way past talking with his hands, darlings! He's talking with his HIPS now! Look out!"


ROFLMAO.

You guys....


keith will be eliminated


By the way, if anyone cares - I got my Norma Kamali friggin SUNGLASSES today. I LOVE THEM. Truly better than I had hoped for. Now I look just like her! At least, in my head I do... :-)


Am I nuts, or is Daniella around a 10 or 12? I'd like to know what HER hip measurement is.

Fuckers. Nothing I hate more than hearing people like Daniella and Jean Paul bitch about having to design for "real" women. And it's not like he ever does anything fitted. He can just sew up another asymmetric box & toss it over her like a toaster cozy.

And Angel -- at least she said it was inspiring, but how can you call yourself a designer if you don't have a sense of what will flatter a woman's body?

Don't any of these people watch Stacy & Clinton?

Jonny's looks like a hooker.


Anna has the right attitude about this show, laughing at Daniella crying.


" averill said...

By the way, if anyone cares - I got my Norma Kamali friggin SUNGLASSES today. I LOVE THEM. Truly better than I had hoped for. Now I look just like her! At least, in my head I do... :-)"



I care. That's awesome!!!


CanIGetYouAnything?

"Jo said... I was snickering so loudly that I had to turn around in my chair and compose myself....."


Same here. Your commentary was hilarious, Tlo!


Isabella said You know, the PR designers had the same issue when they had to design for "real women" whatever the heck that means. It's not just this group.

Yes, and that lead to one of the most uncomfortable showdowns- Jeffrey vs Angela's mom.


Tamarama said: "Nothing I hate more than hearing people like Daniella and Jean Paul bitch about having to design for "real" women. And it's not like he ever does anything fitted. He can just sew up another asymmetric box & toss it over her like a toaster cozy."

ROFLMAO! Spot-on comment on Jean Paul.


Mariana (The Unoriginal)

Johnny: "I don't really work with real people"



Honey, you better start working with real people, because they're the ones who are going to be buying your clothes, not size-zero models. Please.


James-Paul: "I am going to die."


Seriously, that is revolting.


I HATE THEM ALL!!


"It's the Reco Show!"


Indeed. He is very annoying. I can't stand his behavior. Very unprofessional.


-g- said...


I am sure Daniella and Haven have made clothes for themselves before...and they are not a size 0! So I hope they don't use the size of the new models' as an excuse for why the competition is so hard.


I doubt that Haven has.

As Isabella pointed out the same attitude was seen on PR every time real women have been used as models. And every time the winner was the real woman who had a body most similar to a model. Apparently there are a variety of sizes and getting a client further off idea might be part of the frustration.
Padding a standard size mannequin to fit the actual measurements of client is in no way meant to insult the client. It is a common practice, if you do custom work. They even do it in Haute Couture. Calling out the clients measurements in disgust, however is very poor form. Ms Haven my dear, I predict in 10 years time 43" hip will be a distant dream for you.


formerlyAnon

Thank god Bravo repeats everything endlessly. I don't know how well it would go, telling my kid, "honey, mom can't go watch you graduate from high school, she has to watch reality show designers have nervous breakdowns."

Yeah. That one might spawn a whole extra year of future therapy.


formerlyAnon

Sewing Siren, your profile sketch & note caused me to snicker out loud. You may be the new Alex.


Sewing Siren, aren't there such things as adjustable dress forms? Would there be a reason that they don't use those?


Johnny: "I don't really work with real people"

Obviously, if you think outfits can stay together with safety pins and, pixie dust and a prayer.

And Haven Sugarbaker needs to chill with the 40-inch ass jokes before Paula Deen flies in and whacks her in the mouth.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

To all those Size 8+ haters on the show who are nowhere near a 2 themselves: Bitch, please! Kiss my ginormous ass! Yes, those were 'real women' but it could have been far, far more challenging!

I hope Lidia redeems herself in this challenge. Do it for all the babushki back home!

And WTF is up with the highlighter yellow strips inside Heather's coat cuffs? Did he put reflective leg bands on his wrists for the bike ride into the studio?

Sorry, I'm a bit grouchy today....


"Tlo said: Check out Heather's gay kabuki dance!"




I'd say, put a fruit bowl on his head & he'd look like Carmen Miranda.

--GothamTomato


"Sewing Siren said...And every time the winner was the real woman who had a body most similar to a model."


Yup, and that is wrong. They should all be around the same size.

Remember Vincent winning and Robert Best losing? Guess the sizes of those women....


" Anonymous said...

Johnny: "I don't really work with real people"

Obviously, if you think outfits can stay together with safety pins and, pixie dust and a prayer."


That and Tlo's comment made me LOL.

You bitches are rolling today.


Lilithcat said...
Sewing Siren, aren't there such things as adjustable dress forms? Would there be a reason that they don't use those?


There are those dial-o-matic ones that are used for home-sewing. Mostly in the industry they use standard sizes, I've seen newborn dress forms all the way up to womens size 42 or 2X. They could have rented larger forms from Fox, Wolfe or Model. They probably just wanted it to be humilating.


This is going to be fun. Sign.


I love these types of challenges because it showcases what asshats the contestants really are. I constantly hear Cyndi Lauper's "True Colors" when some one like Johnny says "I don't deal w/ real people". Then you're not a real designer; don't let the door hit where the good lord split ya!


Does anyone remember Jeffery of PR making cracks about Angela's mom's size? I can't remember him saying anything crude, and he is definitely a reality show "villain."

Sure, PR had to do these challenges too, but I don't remember anyone talking about their models like these Fashion Show folks are.


another laura

These bitches are on my nerves.

For pretty much all the reasons others have stated.

Favorite part of the preview is DEFINITELY The Heather Dance.


I thing the TLounge should be resurrected."

Hear hear!!! I need alcohol to get through this show.


formerlyAnon

Oh, and not to be repetitive, but -
Do these designers how LUCKY they are? Their "real women" all looked to be shy of middle age, and of pretty normal weight. (Possibly lower than statistical "normal," given the obesity statistics in the U.S. right now.)


formerlyAnon

"Do these designers *know* how LUCKY" etc.

skipped a word


So James Paul imagines himself as James Paul Bond? And actually meeting a human to work with is James Bond's end? How old is this guy emotionally? Daniella is weeping at the devastation of creating for someone about her size? What does this say? Jonny doesn't work with people? I recall Joe saying that from the last PR, who was much further along in his career. Reality check. Boy do they need it.


"Barb Heath said...
Daniella is weeping at the devastation of creating for someone about her size? "


LOLOLOLOLOL


OK, I'm just going to sit here and read comments. This is far more entertaining than the show.


So, ridiculous! It's not like any of those "real" women were actually that big. These designers aren't going to have much business if they only sell to models.


No wonder I can find so few flattering things for my size 10 butt if all designers are like this. Just because something looks good on a size 0, doesn't mean it will translate at all well to those of us with tummies and saddlebags.


You know, that speaks volume about who these designers really are, if they're that dumb to go on national television and make these remarks...good luck to you!


I meant volumeS


I'm appalled by the comments from some of these designers. It's one thing to be nervous about/scared by this challenge - it's another to announce hip size measurements to the cameras while whining and rolling ones eyes - real classy......

Many of the PR designers were designing for much larger/older women and most of them managed to do so with grace and respect (even if the final designs weren't rewarded with the "win").


Holy crap. This week's models probably aren't even within shouting distance of a size 12. A U.S. size 12, at that! Can you imagine just how much they would have disrespected the lovely real ladies of PR3? Or the Catholic school girls from PR4? I sincerely hope the behavior in the actual episode isn't as rude and delusional as these trailers suggest.


I remember the last time PR did a "real" woman challenge, a few of the designers were excited about the opportunity. Rami for one, and I think there were a few others. And Christian DID have one of the thinnest models, but he did a great job.

I don't think it's necessarily easier to design for size 0. Our modern sensibilities and idea of what is "normal" have made us believe it is. I know there are designers who enjoy women's curves (Korto!)and how many times have we commented that a dress looks better on a more curvaceous celeb than it did on the model?

I hate to think that manufacturers just upsize designs for larger sizes. The proportions are completely different!


Thanks, everybody, for putting "real" in quotation marks. I do think it is demeaning to smaller women (me for one) to imply that we are NOT "real."


I'm a plus-sized gal...and if they're squawking about a size 10 they'd probably try to harpoon me if I walked in.

If they only realized the market out there for stylish, plus-sized fashion.

Nimrods.


"Ellen M said...

Thanks, everybody, for putting "real" in quotation marks. I do think it is demeaning to smaller women (me for one) to imply that we are NOT "real."


Exactly. I guess I'm not real. I'm an illusion.


" averill said...

By the way, if anyone cares - I got my Norma Kamali friggin SUNGLASSES today. I LOVE THEM. Truly better than I had hoped for. Now I look just like her! At least, in my head I do... :-)"


Fab, darling, fab. Any picture?


Love the commentary TLo--
and yes please open the lounge tonight, although I will miss it tonight (big giant scary exam tomorrow).

Let me know when the whining is over--
They sound like my kindergartners tattling on somebody. Unless it is a safety issue, a limb is missing or there are copious amounts of blood, I don't want to hear about it. It's like a puzzle, get to work and solve it!
At least Angel had the right attitude.


gigglehairflip

Can you believe those bitches??


Oh boys...


gigglehairflip said...
Can you believe those bitches??



Andrew,
If that's you, you have a better sense of humor than any of them. And I take back anything bad I said about your dress.


Remember what a nice job Uli did for Kayne's mom? I thought she should have won, actually. As a fluffy size myself, I am really amused by the apparent concept of the designers that we must just wrap a sheet around ourselves and not care. Get over it, kiddos! This type of challenge often shows what people are really like!

And for you tiny ladies, the "real" just refers to non-models, rather than a put-down against you personally. Sheesh!


I recall Uli's design for Kayne's (do I have his name right??) Mom as being fabulous, flattering, and very sensitive to being stylish for a larger woman's figure. I thought her design got a good amount of attention, considering that there seems to have been some slanting of results toward designs for thinner models... Should she have won in retrospect? Maybe.


Pittypat - Jinx!


Gotham said, "I'd say, put a fruit bowl on his head & he'd look like Carmen Miranda."



I don't know, I was thinking a grass skirt and a lei.


P.S. Congrats on the shades, Averill

P.P.S. Sarah, I think you owe Pittypat a Coke.


Weren't those some very nice size 8 dress forms behind Tim on the PR preview?


Averill, did you feel the urge to walk around and say things like, "The sleeves ... you don't even want to know."


They should have smelling salts on hand. Clearly it was going to be shocking for James-Paul to find out that most women are not his body double.

May I slap him with my non-model size hand? Please?


Johnny Samuri doesn't draft patterns, he doesn't sew, and he doesn't work with real people? As I asked before, does he just draw pretty pictures? That guy really irritates me. Can't wait to see Heather's fan dance!


I guess that's what you get when no one knows how clothes are made (OMG a padded dress form!) - you get a psychological block on creating garments from one arbitrary set of numbers versus another.


Ellen M said-Thanks, everybody, for putting "real" in quotation marks. I do think it is demeaning to smaller women (me for one) to imply that we are NOT "real."

I don't think the term real has anything to do with size. Models who are tall and thin and proportional represent a sort of "fantasy" which is why not everyone can be a model. A woman can be small and thin and not be proportional or have a perfect figure.


WHY does Bravo do this? Insulting 99% of your audience! We all LOVE to hear this kind of stuff about us!


It isn't that hard to design for average girls. None of the models in question are what I would call fluffy, as a general rule they'll look better in tailored looks as opposed to conceptual looks, but real clothes *are* less conceptual and crazy, so that shouldn't be a hinderence. And padding up dressforms happens, very few people are perfect dressform sizes. Even models. Dressforms don't account for different torso lengths, bust height, waist/hip ratios, bodies that are wide side to side but flat front to back, bubble butts, flat butts, etc, etc, etc. When you're doing a custom fit garment, thats just want you do. Good heavens. These people cannot freaking sew. It's amazing!


"frogponder said...

WHY does Bravo do this? Insulting 99% of your audience! We all LOVE to hear this kind of stuff about us!"

It's not really Bravo's fault. How can they predict what those designers are going to say or how they're going to react?


I'd say send them all home and start all over again.


I hope this is just the editing in the previews. I can't imagine someone being that rude and ignorant on TV.


"You should be glad she watches what she eats."


When the models stood up I actually thought this was a weak challenge since all the girls looked greated. Sure they aren't 5'10" 110 lbs but they are very attractive girls with fit and healthy-looking bodies. Pointing out the 43" or 45" inch butt is in poor, poor taste and makes me want to slap those bitches.


"Brooklyn Bomber said: I don't know, I was thinking a grass skirt and a lei."



Hmm, appropriate since a grass skirt makes him look hippy (more like a 'real' girl).

--GothamTomato


Where did they find these "designers"?

My gawd.


"I hope this is just the editing in the previews. I can't imagine someone being that rude and ignorant on TV."

I hope so too but the announcing of the size of these women's butts with that tone of voice is just plain rude and I"d be pissed if I'd been one of their models.


Here's something. I'm a size 4 (previously a 6, and before that, an 8—all at the same height and weight), and I still wouldn't fit the designers' ideal. I'm 5'4" and have boobs (32D) and hips and a backside. I'm basically an hourglass with a little extra sand in the bottom. However, I'm willing to bet those folks would be seriously challenged fitting my curves.


What are these designers gonna do if they get a commission from somebody famous and fabulous... say J-Lo? Or better yet, Queen Latifah? Both gorgeous women.


From Angel Chang's Diary:

"The challenge for tonight’s episode of The Fashion Show is to design a look for “real women.” Oh, this will just be so painful to watch. If anyone has seen the preview on Bravo’s site, you will see that this challenge was difficult for everyone.
I always design around a woman’s personality (not her body type), and I think a woman can pull off anything so long as her personality matches what she is wearing. The more I know about an individual, the more I am inspired to design a look for her. And I always need a stream of inspiration, otherwise I just check out mentally."




That will be interesting.


Oh go ahead and be dismissive of Kelly Rowland. She just happens to have a new record that is climbing the charts with David Guetta, "When Love Takes Over."

Her singing voice is completely different from her speaking voice.


gigglehairflip

"I always design around a woman’s personality (not her body type), and I think a woman can pull off anything so long as her personality matches what she is wearing."


Yeah. Right. That's one of those statements that makes you look good, that sounds good on paper, but doesn't work with real bodies.


They act like Isaac told them to design for aliens or something. I mean, c'mon....


They should all be forced to watch "Real Women Have Curves".


People, fashion isn't for large women, how can you blame them?


JessicaGlance

Real women challenges are my favorites, because designers are forced to create outside of their bubble and most of them have a very tiny little bubble.


The previews really made some of the designers look like complete asses!


downtowngirl

The majority of designers do not celebrate the womanly body, they design for skinny 16-year old girls. It's ridiculous and unrealistic.


I feel bad for these women to be humiliated like that on TV. Shame on these designers!!!!!!!!!


The most popular women's dress size today is a 14. Wake up and smell the coffee, "designers"!


Anonymous
6/4/09 6:58 PM People, fashion isn't for large women, how can you blame them?


Well that's a perfectly idiotic comment. Bra-vo.


Anonymous said...
The previews really made some of the designers look like complete asses!

6/4/09 7:00 PM


No, they did that all on their own. The previews just highlighted it.


"I am sure Daniella and Haven have made clothes for themselves before...and they are not a size 0!"


Exactly!!! How hypocritical of them!


"Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
The previews really made some of the designers look like complete asses!

6/4/09 7:00 PM


No, they did that all on their own. The previews just highlighted it."


I have to agree. The show definitely manipulates footage but they can't make you say what you don't want to say.


LOVE this challenge-- it really separates the men from the boys.

ANYONE can wrap a skinny 6' tall model in a 1/2 yard of jersey, then stand back and take credit for the girl's good genes. Making the AVERAGE woman look good takes actual skill.

Can't wait to watch, thanks for the teaser--


"Fashion isn't for large women".

There are plenty of "large women" who manage to be fashionable-- Anna Piaggi is one who immediately comes to mind.

What you should have said is, "Designing for large women isn't for amateurs".


Is it me or does that top picture really look like Boy George (in his younger years, of course)?

What is it with Kelly and her "let's bring the show to a screeching halt" comments? The heinie/hips thing is right up there with "Hello? My name is Guilty?" or whatever she said in the shoe challenge. You need a lot more airtime before anyone is going to care about how you personally relate to anything.

I think IM said, "This show is all about designing real clothes for real people." Uh... Maybe this episode, but certainly not this show. Have you seen the clothes thus far? At least on PR's Real Person challenges, the real people tend to be actually larger... These women are still young, firmish, and on the lower end of average.


I'm getting all itchy just thinking about tonight's episode, because it really mashes my buttons to hear designers bitch about designing for "real women". Excuse me, my lower hip measurement is 44 inches, my upper hip is 41, and I'm a professional freakin' dancer and perfectly hot, thank you very much.

I've had two extremely unpleasant run-ins personally with designers who couldn't handle my curves. One was supposed to be making my wedding dress; she was a total drunk who insisted that I could only wear spandex, because there was just no way that a curvy woman could wear any other fabric (I was ultimately married in satin and tulle, natch - not a whit of stretch). The other was a midtown Manhattan costume seamstress (COUGH *Carmen Gee* COUGH) who seemed to be having a nervous breakdown when she should have been making my dance dress. So offensive, and so unprofessional. Which is what these people look like in the previews. I hope at least one of them proves us wrong.

I mean, really. If it were that hard for women like me to dress ourselves, we'd all be running around naked with our terrifying curves just hanging out to dry, now, wouldn't we?

Re: Jeffrey vs. Angela's Mom - that was egregious. Not least because he dressed her like Friar Tuck.


All this episode does is remind me how poor Uli was robbed. Robbed!


When Miss Weeping Danielle says "I have nothing to work with," I wonder if she is referring to her lack of Skills and/or Talent? Oh no, it must be her model's scary-sized butt. Those models don't even look that big! I'm really starting to loathe Danielle.

I love how Danielle and Miss WhatsHerName Depressed EyeMakeUp are so amazed that Reco is actually ACCOMPLISHING HIS ASSIGNED TASK! Talent and skills, idiots! He may be full of himself, but he's not crying that he has to make a pattern and sew on a goddamn fashion show.

Oh, and Kelly, please. You KNOW she practices that "ONE of you will be GOING home" look in her mirror every morning. It's her big fucking moment on every show. Cut to commercial... da da DAH!!

sincerely, Wishing I Had a "Huge" Size 8 Ass!


OMG... none of them are even *that* big. Designers that can't design for someone *their own* size can suck it.


Given Kelly's history as second banana to Beyonce and an also ran in solo record sales, it really grates my nerves to hear her intone "you're hanging by a thread" to the surviving designer.


You guys think Kelly is bad here? You should have seen her on Project Runway Australia as a guest judge. The challenge was to make a stage outfit for her and one of the designers made an outfit that was, admittedly, too short.

Kelly went off into a lecture about how she could see herself singing and showing off her "little goodies" by accident. She didn't want anyone to see her "little goodies" and she was highly concerned that her "little goodies" might end up in a newspaper if she wore the outfit, blah blah "little goodies", blah blah blah "little goodies" blah blah.

It's in everyone's best interests that she is not allowed to whisper so much as one unscripted word.


Does anyone else think Danielle looks like Nancy McKeon? You know, the actress from that old sitcom about the girls at the boarding school?


I don't know about Danielle and Nancy McKeon (Facts of Life) but Keith sure does remind me of Keira Knightley, underbite et al.


oh geez! you sure are right about Keira and the teeth, quite a resemblance!


"oh my god my model has a 43 inch ass!"

"I have to pad my mannequin to be one inch bigger!"

WTF. Did PR designers whine like this? And what the hell are the measurements of the designers? Disgusting.


Anonymous
6/4/09 1:35 PM
keith will be eliminated
---------

right gain for the 3rd time in a row..

too bad, don't have spoiler for next week


I really want to kick Daniella in the teeth. She's no stick figure, and yet *gasp* she had to design for a women with a similar shape to her? For Christ's sake, hasn't she ever designed anything for herself, or even dressed herself for that matter??


"What are these designers gonna do if they get a commission from somebody famous and fabulous... say J-Lo? Or better yet, Queen Latifah?"

Not. gonna. happen.


NuKenley's outfit was a damn joke.

Can we all say: WENDY PEPPER BANANA REPUBLIC?

Where was the acknowledgement?


I don't know who I hated more last night. Daniela for weeping over having to make a dress for a real body, Haven for acting like the woman she was designing for was the size of Orca the whale or J-P for basicly calling anyone with curves the devil.

And even though I like Daniella's final design, I HATED the fact that she could put a color on her model.


I never thought I would be defending Daniella (and it's a qualified defense, considering her disgust at the size of her model's butt), but I think she had her little breakdown because she had virtually no information to work with. Pretty much the only thing her model said was that she likes to be comfortable. What the hell does that mean? Sweat pants and a t-shirt? Jeans and nice jacket? I think Daniella did a great job of rising to the occasion.

But I still wanted to smack almost every designer for being such narrow minded assholes.


Preach it, sister. Hell, eff'ing TARGET can't even get their plus size section right. What hope is there for any plus looking for stylish clothing (and not the re-purposed hoochie-plus wear that Lane Bryant so often touts)?


NYAZGIRL said:

If they only realized the market out there for stylish, plus-sized fashion.

Nimrods.


Re: comments by doeadeer and NYAZGIRL: so, SO right!!!! Target, you break my damn heart. The plus-size section in both of my local Targets is not only small, but the miniscule selection is dowdy. How many monochromatic tees and capri pants does one woman need?

Re: Did the designers really insult their clients on camera? That would be a big, plus-sized "YES." At least one also did it within their model's hearing, IIRC. Despicable.


All of the women were pretty and within the normal size range. No major figure problems, no real challenge figure wise and still they all were complaining? This is ridiculous.
I am tired of designers complaining about having to sew for real women.


can't wait for project ruwnway!





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