Oh Torenzo, gawd luv ya!

Didn't get to know Johnny D, but felt a little sorry for him to have left so soon, and with such a cold dismissal. (They could've least shake his hand, or say thanks).

Correction: maybe it was a good idea that he left first after all.

Yeah. The judges were cold. The menswear in the pics overall aren't bad. There's some interesting elements and vibe. But the female models look very slutty

Frank

"Darlings, because he left the show too early for him to develop a hatred of us, Jonny Day, the first of the designers to be sent home from The Fashion Show, sat down with us for a little chat."

ROFL.

I fucking love you bitches! Great interview comme d'habitude.

LOVE his men's wear. Awesome jackets!

Wow, I really find his menswear interesting. not so much with the women's clothes. Pretty trashy.

(Can't believe you didn't ask if he's a former fattie...)

He's got SOME NERVE to imply that his outfit looked bad because the model wasn't "fit" enough!

I have zero sympathy for this guy-- all he had to do was construct a tube skirt, and a simple halter top. After failing miserably, he blames the model!

I'm with everyone else on this collection. The womenswear is kinda bleh and slutty, but the mens is nice.

I was really sorry to see him leave. I *loved* the jacket he was wearing and thought he had more in him.

What he created for the show appears to be consistent on how he designs for women. He makes them all slutty sex objects. Looks like the models all got half dressed, forgot to put on their slacks and skirts.

Wow, he seems to have a bit of a complex here judging by that collection. The men are all perfectly tailored and the women are wearing underwear.

Oh, but he was totally right. Those girls are rail-thin so they don't look slutty in those fishnets and booty shorts at all. Good call on that. Totally wearable.

I think that the "slut" thing might be kind of a problem for him, judging by the women's pieces in his collection.

Nice interview. While I'm glad you were able to interview him, I really wish it had been Strawberry Shortcake who'd been cut.

Well, just great. After looking at his line, I'm going to have "Mein Heir" stuck in my head all afternoon.

"Johnny said: I had the biggest and the bustiest model and that was very challenging because my look needed to be on someone who is pretty fit and pretty thin."




Hmmm....I understand that it was a handicap to not have sufficient time to fit the models, but this excuse sounds a bit too Shatengi.

I like his line though. I'd like to see a picture of the look that the audience voted worst & now I'm wondering why that look wasn't eliminated.

--GothamTomato

How could you not ask the question everyone wants to know ... Was he a former fatty or not?

Forgive me if I'm not impressed by his womenswear formula: hire beautiful young girl... outfit in heels & thigh highs... add black panties & bustier... top with skimpy menswear piece... voila, Spring collection!

thanks tlo --

I liked the show but thought it was a little mean -- could the producers have given him the busty model to sabotage an already sexy design?

This is why I love you two: You have totally humanized TFS.

It is so easy to sit on the sofa (or on the judging panel) and ridicule the clothes and the designers, but hell. 13 hours from assignment to runway?

While I am 20 pounds and 20 years beyond his line, he has some interesting ideas.

I think Strawberry Shortcake should have gone straight home.

Suz

15 minutes for a model fitting sounds like a bit too much "let's amp up the stress in a stressful enough situation".

I wish him luck with his new womenswear store but hope he considers offering clothes there.

Likely the heaviest model was say Salome's size and he was designing for Jordan. Oh wait Jordan has hips so...........

Gotham Tomato said:
I'd like to see a picture of the look that the audience voted worst & now I'm wondering why that look wasn't eliminated.The other Jonny was leader of Team Hammer (er, I mean HAREM) Pants - he had the "Athletic" harm pants with the gray fleece midriff top complete with elbow-legth puffed sleeves. His team ended up in the middle (god knows why) and so he wasn't eligible for elimination.

Also, as team leader, the other Johnny had immunity.
Nancy

I'm sad to see Johnny Day go, but I think with his mostly menswear background he would have struggled (although I bet in a few episodes when the designers have to create a tuxedo out of paper towels and Mizrahi's favorite cummerbund they'll be missing him).

Personally TFS turned out to be EXACTLY what I wanted, except for what I think to be production flaws. The scripted conversations are trash, and the critiques are unduly scathing without having any real substance to them. Anyone can say "That's slutty" or "that's unforgivable" just to get the audience riled, and to me it's a cheap trick. What I expect is a fair review. Not a "oh well you only have 13 hours so I guess that's okay," but something more like "you had a challenge, you disappointed the audience, here's why." I consider such blatant manufactured drama to be very condescending to me as a viewer. A little is always welcome as it IS a reality TV show, but I wrinkle my nose at such a degree of it.

Lisa @ 5/9/09 12:06 PM said...
"He's got SOME NERVE to imply that his outfit looked bad because the model wasn't "fit" enough!

I have zero sympathy for this guy-- all he had to do was construct a tube skirt, and a simple halter top. After failing miserably, he blames the model!"

Exactly. That porker of a model set him up. She must have been a size 1/2 instead of zero.

Gimme a fuckin' break. These designers thinking Auschwitz chic need some serious reality checks.

Thanks for the extra!

And, since I do think the fashion world should turn around jackets, double thanks for the pictures of his spring line. Nothing there to convince me he should have have lasted much longer since he no doubt would have had to continue to turn out mostly women's wear in the challenges.

Yesterday I said something like I felt bad for him b/c menswear people never do well. But today I do not feel bad for him at all. The fact is that he made a slutty, poorly fitting outfit and then he goes and talks smack about his model? Not cool. You gave her a spanx skirt, no one was going to be able to rock that out.

I love his jackets and blazers. Totally my style.

Thanks for the interview, Tlo! It always sucks for the first one to go.

Jonny Day is a well-known designer in LA. He'll be just fine.

Yes, the skirt was very tight but the idea was there as opposed to freaking hammer pants. Who the hell is going to wear that? Besides, in the end these things are produced by a manufacturer, not Jonny and his little sewing machine in the back room. So what is more important? Come up with a good idea or send something fugly down the runway that nobody will buy?

I loved what he wore on the show and would buy it in a second. I think people should stick to what they know, and in his case, I think it's menswear.

I was surprised at his suggestion that model wasn't "fit"; perhaps it was just a poor choice of words.

Oh, please. Give it a rest, people. All he said was that he had the biggest model and you're all acting like he called her a fat cow.

" Anonymous said...
Oh, please. Give it a rest, people. All he said was that he had the biggest model and you're all acting like he called her a fat cow."


I was just about to say that. What's with this hang-up on the weight?

Yeah, judging by that collection...the womenswear is incredibly skanky.

The menswear is hot, though.

LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE that jacket with the stripes on the back. Now THAT is a must-have, at least for me : )

Anonymous said...
" Anonymous said...
Oh, please. Give it a rest, people. All he said was that he had the biggest model and you're all acting like he called her a fat cow."


I was just about to say that. What's with this hang-up on the weight?

5/9/09 4:06 PM



I can't speak for anyone but myself. Yeah, he didn't call her a fat cow, but said she wasn't "fit".

The fact that he complained that his coat hanger wasn't "fit" seemed rather ridiculous. Basically, he was coming up for excuses for his shittastic design and had to pin it on the model for being too "big", even though she wasn't.

Twist it around as much as you like, that's the bottom line.

"Joanie said...

Nice interview. While I'm glad you were able to interview him, I really wish it had been Strawberry Shortcake who'd been cut."

Yup, Strawberry Shortcake should have gone home. Her outfit was beyond slutty.

Geez, where was all this drama and name-calling when the sainted Tim Gunn called a model a marshmallow?

He said that his model was too big for his design. That's it. He didn't say she was a bad model or even a fat model. He said she was too big for his design. Take a look at the pictures again, she was actually kind of big for a model.

Aren't the designs made up on a sz 4 dress form? The models should be matched to that if they're not going to have them around to fit during construction.

If you think Johnny's departure from TFS was cold, imagine how cold his women's line models felt walking down the runway (private line). WTF?

Anonymous @ 5/9/09 5:12 PM said... "Geez, where was all this drama and name-calling when the sainted Tim Gunn called a model a marshmallow?"

It was deleted. I've been lurking longer than anyone knows. :0)

"He said that his model was too big for his design. That's it. He didn't say she was a bad model or even a fat model. He said she was too big for his design. Take a look at the pictures again, she was actually kind of big for a model."

She didn't seem that much bigger than the other girls. If he put it on any one of them, he would have blamed them, too.
Bottom line is: he had a decent design, but he took poor measurements. He needed to acknowledge that he made a mistake, instead of blaming the model and the other Johnny for his wrongdoing.

Let me just add:

Yes, he did admit that he made a mistake in front of the judges. But his following interview just was sour grapes and bad sportsmanship.

The Jerry Tam of TFS is not a great thing to aspire to.

Please stick to the menswear only!!

Why is he still blaming after all the time sequestered to reflect? Model, Johnny, Strawberry etc etc??

If she could have even walked in it, he wouldn't have been in the bottom 2. Maybe he blames her for not being able to walk in that hobble lol.

Was he the one who said that he likes his women to have "HOURGLASS" shape? Then he turns around and calls his model not fit? Gross. It's not a hang up on weight, it's a lack of respect for those you work with.

Yet another fashion genius forced to work with a big fat size 0 model.

Uh, his model clearly WAS a little larger than the others (and seemed to be the only one with actual boobs), and, like others have pointed out, he didn't call her fat. Not being fit is not the same thing, and yes, it is entirely possible to be skinny size 2 but still unfit and a bit flabby. Ever heard of "skinny fat"? So, I really don't think he said anything that bad. He didn't even BLAME it on her per se, he was just explaining what happened. He made something, his model was bigger than he expected, he had not time to change it. That was it. He admitted to the fit issues on the runway, so all this blather seems to be a smokescreen for what amounts to nothing. Especially given the rampant support Allison from PR Season 3 got here after she got stuck with 'the big model' and was eliminated.

bugle boy said...
"He admitted to the fit issues on the runway, so all this blather seems to be a smokescreen for what amounts to nothing."
5/9/09 8:02 PM

Well, this "blather" is no different then trying to make excuses for his comments.

He DID blame the model for his design later on instead of owning up to it. Not cool.

He made a mistake, he got voted off. He'll live. No need to blame anyone in the process. In the end, its his design and only he could've made himself safe from elimination.

I'd blame Allison too. She was excused b/c of the pretty blonde girl syndrome. No matter, her design sucked as well.

His model was clearly no model. She was too large, had breasts that were too large, and her face was completely unacceptable. Not to say she isn't a pretty, normal girl, but there is no way anybody actually signed that girl. She is/was clearly a ringer. Just like Allison's model on PR, who, by all accounts, was literally a plus-size model. It's hardly fair to not give them accurate measurements and no time for model fittings and then get pissed that clothes don't fit, especially when they intentionally chose one model that was larger than all the others, seemingly just to cause drama. Perhaps the show needs to 'own up' to its dubious practices more than this dude, who was basically just unlucky enough to be the one to draw the short straw. People shrieking in defense of the model are probably the same lame grandmas proclaiming this show "doesn't have enough heart." Welcome to the real world, folks.

LOVE LOVE LOVE the first blazer on the third row. I didn't see it on Johnny D's website, but I'd absolutely adore to have it!

He should just not design womenswear ever. I find his designs for the women in this collection somewhat offensive.

" emilyecm said...
He should just not design womenswear ever. I find his designs for the women in this collection somewhat offensive."


It's sexy lingerie not a chastity belt. My god is 2009, WOMEN!!!!

What kind of person looks at CLOTHES and gets offended?

I like the women's jackets/vests well enough; the menswear is fine, of course. The bustiers, if skanky, at least seem well-fitted. (Some of the jackets, less so--like the 1st vest, with the top button undone.) But it just seems like a "duh" that you're supposed to be looking at the vests/jackets; there's no reason to buy bootyshorts from a boutique, I'd think.

Most challenges on Project Runway were about womens clothing and I guess it won't be different in the Fashion Show. Designers who are more into mens clothes are at an disadvantage.

As to the pictures, I like his mens clothes fine, his designs for women are incredibly bad taste and trashy.

Random comment @ 5/9/09 9:01 PM said...
His model was clearly no model. She was too large, had breasts that were too large, and her face was completely unacceptable. Not to say she isn't a pretty, normal girl, but there is no way anybody actually signed that girl. She is/was clearly a ringer. Just like Allison's model on PR, who, by all accounts, was literally a plus-size model. It's hardly fair to not give them accurate measurements and no time for model fittings and then get pissed that clothes don't fit, especially when they intentionally chose one model that was larger than all the others, seemingly just to cause drama. Perhaps the show needs to 'own up' to its dubious practices more than this dude, who was basically just unlucky enough to be the one to draw the short straw. People shrieking in defense of the model are probably the same lame grandmas proclaiming this show "doesn't have enough heart." Welcome to the real world, folks."He made a bad design, and he was rightfully eliminated because of it. Insult as much as you want, that's the bottom line.

If he were a standup designer, he would have stuck to his original confession that he made for the judges, instead of blaming others for his mistakes.

And I ain't a "lame shrieking grandma" as you so eloquently put it. Just someone stating an opinion, if that's okay.

I was ready to cut him some slack until he started in on the "needs to be fit" to wear his skirt. Sorry bud. Any decent designer can make a pencil skirt that doesn't require an anorexic 13 year old to look good. The execution of that skirt sucked. Plain and simple.

Lisa said...

I have zero sympathy for this guy-- all he had to do was construct a tube skirt, and a simple halter top. After failing miserably, he blames the model!

Lisa,

I agree! No matter what you design in the final judging it is all about execution and being retail ready. The reason Strawbrry Shortcake was not given the boot instead of Johnny was due to her superior execution of her TACKY design.

TampaBay

TampaBay

I felt bad for the guy. I'm sure the producers thought they could get more drama out of Strawberry Cake than Jonny.

"I think there’s a lot of good designers, but most of them are making stuff that is not that wearable, and for me, as much as I love a fantasy design, it has to have a wearability. "


I think that's a very interesting point. If the show is about designing and selling wearable clothes, it will be interesting to see how much of the creative process will suffer or benefit from it.

Thank yo for the interview, Tlo! I love them!

"Lisa said...
(Can't believe you didn't ask if he's a former fattie...)"

Seriously, who would ask that? A little rude, don't you think?

Anonymous said...
"Lisa said...
(Can't believe you didn't ask if he's a former fattie...)"

Seriously, who would ask that? A little rude, don't you think?

THE NATIONAL INQUIRER!

TampaBay

Anonymous said...

He made a bad design, and he was rightfully eliminated because of it. Insult as much as you want, that's the bottom line.

If he were a standup designer, he would have stuck to his original confession that he made for the judges, instead of blaming others for his mistakes.

And I ain't a "lame shrieking grandma" as you so eloquently put it. Just someone stating an opinion, if that's okay.Yeah, I guess that's where we differ. He DOESN'T need to be a "stand-up designer." *rolls eyes* He needs to be a GOOD designer. Granted, he wasn't one of those either, but I don't know why people think a fashion reality show should be some warm, fuzzy feel-good Church bake sale or something when the industry is anything but. You pretend everyone should hold hands and sing Kumbaya all you want, but that's not the way things work in real life. In real life, the fat model would've been canned, not Johnny. Oh well though, as long as feeeeeeeelings don't get hurt! Maybe they can make Merlin write out cute little apology notes to his team and clap erasers after the elimination ceremony as punishment for, you know, actually making their bolero jacket decent, whether he was nice about it or not. The end result and the bottom line are the only things that really matter. THAT is why Johnny was eliminated, not any imagined slights against his model or about him not being a "stand-up designer." He DID stand up for his design! Ridiculous.

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...

He made a bad design, and he was rightfully eliminated because of it. Insult as much as you want, that's the bottom line.

If he were a standup designer, he would have stuck to his original confession that he made for the judges, instead of blaming others for his mistakes.

And I ain't a "lame shrieking grandma" as you so eloquently put it. Just someone stating an opinion, if that's okay.Yeah, I guess that's where we differ. He DOESN'T need to be a "stand-up designer." *rolls eyes* He needs to be a GOOD designer. Granted, he wasn't one of those either, but I don't know why people think a fashion reality show should be some warm, fuzzy feel-good Church bake sale or something when the industry is anything but. You pretend everyone should hold hands and sing Kumbaya all you want, but that's not the way things work in real life. In real life, the fat model would've been canned, not Johnny. Oh well though, as long as feeeeeeeelings don't get hurt! Maybe they can make Merlin write out cute little apology notes to his team and clap erasers after the elimination ceremony as punishment for, you know, actually making their bolero jacket decent, whether he was nice about it or not. The end result and the bottom line are the only things that really matter. THAT is why Johnny was eliminated, not any imagined slights against his model or about him not being a "stand-up designer." He DID stand up for his design! Ridiculous.

5/10/09 12:03 PM


Words, words, words, words, words...

As Cam'ron and Damon Dash said to BillO'Reilly:

"You ma-aad! YOU MAD!"

So now the Johnny's downfall is the "fat model". Glad to see what you really "think". It's all the fat pig's fault who's a size 1 instead of zero.

No viable argument, so you resort to insults.

Bottom line (and I repeat once again). It was homeboy's design, he messed up, he got booted, and he pulled a bitch move by blaming everyone else for his poor judgment. Like it or not, that's the truth.

Make excuses and insult the others who have said that. THAT is what happened.

Cry about it and move on...

"he pulled a bitch move by blaming everyone else for his poor judgment."

He did no such thing.

Why did LeMiz look surprised/horrified when dude said that he made menswear?

Sort of, "You're capable of that, but you can't make a decent skirt?"

Anonymous said...
"he pulled a bitch move by blaming everyone else for his poor judgment."

He did no such thing.

5/10/09 12:20 PM


words, words, words...whatever, dude.

Actually, no, I never argued he shouldn't go home. I just think it's ridiculous for people to think he blamed the model when he only made a reference to her in some blog interview that like, only a couple thousand people are gonna read. If he were to have commented on it on the runway, in front of the judges, I would think you had a point, but since the only thing he said to them was admitting that he had fit problems, I think that pretty clearly says "I screwed up." But oh, I know, the model is always the victim because she's a woman or in a hard, superficial industry or something, right? Whatever. Boo hoo. And yes, she was 'fat' or a regular RTW model. Love that you're so into the fashion industry and shows like these when THEY are the ones who impose those standards, not me. Psssh.

"words, words, words...whatever, dude."

What a stunning rebuttal. The fact of the matter is, he didn't do what you said he did. You're reading all kinds of bizarre stuff into a simple statement that his model was too big for the design her offered.

"he only made a reference to her in some blog interview that like, only a couple thousand people are gonna read. "

Ahem. WAY more than that.

And darlings, could we all take a deep breath here?

" CroqueMonsieur said...
I loved what he wore on the show and would buy it in a second."


Me too, that is a fantastic jacket. My boyfriend says he wants it. I might buy it for his birthday.

Wow, you guys still don't get it. We have here a genuinely hostile person who rudely insults others and deliberately misstates their positions just to get into it and then drag out a fight. And, she gets even more rude, insulting, and hostile if the conversation seems to be petering out.

He/she/it has posted under several different names, sometimes even talking to herself to make it look like others are joining in the bitch fight.

Once she attacks you, you know it's the wacko. Don't get into these trash-a-thons, no matter how she has insulted you. Just back off. Do not respond. You'll only encourage her to spew out even more hostility.

Just IGNORE her.

If one is designing a skin-tight, minimum ease garment, and one doesn't have access to the model during the initial design process, wouldn't it make sense to design it so that it could be adjusted during the 15 minute fitting? Especially since it's something as straightforward as a pencil skirt?

Poor planning, poor execution - NOT the poor model's fault it didn't fit properly.

His model was clearly bigger than the other models. And in a situation where he was making a skin-tight skirt and had extremely limited time (if any at all) for fittings before the show... that seems like a legitimate disadvantage to me, especially if he was given measurements that were different from what the model's measurements actually were.

Don't get me wrong - looking solely at the dresses with no knowledge of the fitting/creating process, he should have gone home. (I wish Strawberry had gone because she grates on my last nerve...but based on dresses, no)

But I think his complaints about the model are legitimate... perhaps not the nicest thing to say, but legit.

Erm, ignore what I said about him not having the model's measurements... I'm fairly sure I read that somewhere, but it wasn't here and I don't rememeber where.

Having reread that part of the interview - he never said that his model was fat. He just said she was the biggest (which was apparently from my crappy TV Screen) and he needed someone thinner to wear his design.

It would have looked like slut-wear no matter what, but with a skinner model it might have been a little less apparent.

A Different Anonymous said...
Wow, you guys still don't get it. We have here a genuinely hostile person who rudely insults others and deliberately misstates their positions just to get into it and then drag out a fight. And, she gets even more rude, insulting, and hostile if the conversation seems to be petering out.

He/she/it has posted under several different names, sometimes even talking to herself to make it look like others are joining in the bitch fight.

Once she attacks you, you know it's the wacko. Don't get into these trash-a-thons, no matter how she has insulted you. Just back off. Do not respond. You'll only encourage her to spew out even more hostility.

Just IGNORE her.

5/10/09 2:24 PM


You know who this is, right?

Anonymous said...
Actually, no, I never argued he shouldn't go home. I just think it's ridiculous for people to think he blamed the model when he only made a reference to her in some blog interview that like, only a couple thousand people are gonna read. If he were to have commented on it on the runway, in front of the judges, I would think you had a point, but since the only thing he said to them was admitting that he had fit problems, I think that pretty clearly says "I screwed up." But oh, I know, the model is always the victim because she's a woman or in a hard, superficial industry or something, right? Whatever. Boo hoo. And yes, she was 'fat' or a regular RTW model. Love that you're so into the fashion industry and shows like these when THEY are the ones who impose those standards, not me. Psssh.

5/10/09 12:26 PM


Look below, mate. It's the same person.

TLo said...

"he only made a reference to her in some blog interview that like, only a couple thousand people are gonna read. "

Ahem. WAY more than that.
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You guys are a gift. Here I come, desperately searching for distraction from a project not going well, (so desperate that I'm skimming repetitive mouth-frothing from anonymi) and you crack me up in the comments section, for god's sake.

Not crazy about the womenswear collection, but the blazers and vest are gorgeous.

Great Interview, Tlo! I can't wait to read more about the episode.

"CrockPot said...
I'm sure the producers thought they could get more drama out of Strawberry Cake than Jonny."

First of all, love the name, Tlo. LOL. I think Strawberry Cake will stay for a while. They should have sent her home instead of Jonny; her outfit made no sense. It was all about the boots. Like he said, I would not had style those pieces like that.

Johnny was handsome, interesting and talented (what he wore showed this and looking at his prior work proves this, at least menswear). I think it was a letdown that the challenge beat him, it was not what anyone hoped for! This art war passionate commenting that is done here is fair, fair, fair game by us as the involved audience. We either like or want to like these people and when it goes kaput it hurts us FOR THEM. Some of the ousted contestants allege their mistakes a little more defensively than others, they are entitled to hedge and we are entitled to call them on it. It isn't personal.

Who ever you are, watch out for the conspiratorial accusations, it sounds mental. Unless you are omniscent you don't know the i.d. of each and every commenter, nor should you care. We bloggers are just intelligent TLoites who have something to say. If it were attacking I think TLo would not let it print.

I'm with Rana here-- he knew what the hazards were; little interaction with the model and/or time for fittings, and he didn't plan his design to account for that. Never mind some poor-sportsmanship wording; bad planning made the design fail, not the model. After all, if you make something that will only succeed in a perfect world, then do you honestly deserve to expect success?

WHAAAAAAAAAT???? You mean the live audience VOTES? What is the point of them voting if the results don't mean a damn thing? Were they going to reveal the vote, but then the producers absolutely couldn't bear to kick off Johnny "Jay version 2" so they scrapped the vote?

I'm very irritated.

Let me first start off by saying that yes Jonny may have and issue with styling women, but the womens jackets/vest in his collection are tailored to perfection and I would totally wear one with pants of course!


It's so annoying it seems like the producers of this show and Project Runway purposfully get someone who is a menswear designer and set them up for failure on a show that is geared towards women's clothes. HELLO BRAVO get a show for Men's clothing! He's clearly talented ( Issac Miz thought so when he said he made that suit) and I hope his short stint on the show brings him tons of business.

I thought that the pink haired fairy should have went home especially after throwing her team under the bus and making that hideous forever 21/charlotte russe monstrosity!