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Yea or Nay: Balmain Jacket


Yes, Ladies, it's the Balmain spring '09 jacket! Seen on celebrities everywhere!


Balmain Spring 2009 Collection

(Emmanuel Lewis accessory sold separately.)





Come. The fuck. ON. We can accept that certain best-forgotten trends are always going to get recycled eventually, but THIS? There is no way to look at this jacket without thinking of a pre-pedophile-charges Michael Jackson showing up at an awards ceremony with either Macauley Culkin or Emmanuel Lewis on one arm and professional beard Brooke Shields on the other. It's not even about the relative merits of the jacket; it's about the fact that it is solely derivative of one (largely fallen and discredited) celebrity of years past. It's way too soon for this trend to be resurrected. Anyone over the age of 15 looks at that and thinks of the De-nosed One.

NAY.


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C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

Funny, I see that jacket and think Jimi Hendrix. Super cool guitarist, but maybe not the best role model unless you want to die inhaling your own vomit.

But I concur on your larger point, a trend that had its time and place and should only come out for Halloween.


HUGE NAY!!!!


Karen in Ohio

Actually, that type of jacket did not originate with Michael Jackson; he just appropriated it. Military colleges have used that sort of jacket for decades, even more than a century.

You may or may not be old enough to remember the TV show Rin Tin Tin. The cavalry officers wore uniform jackets with double rows of button closures in that show, and I always admired it. That was back in the 50's. Michael Jackson wasn't even a twinkle in his abusive father's eye then.

When you think about it, it's actually kind of ironic that someone like MJ wore a military jacket.


Just beat it, beat it..
Beat it, beat it....

(now switch to Weird Al)

And when it gets cold reheat it!

OY!


I liked it so much better when Adam Ant was wearing it. I have to say "nay".


Oh yeah! Jimi. And Adam Ant! But yeah, Michael Jackson....

I guess the twist here is that this one is supposed to be worn open. Or you could pull a SJP and try wearing it shawl-like over your shoulders.


No one is saying that it originated with Michael Jackson, just that it's become so associated with him.


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i love the jacket itself, because i like the 19th century historical connotations. however, you are sadly right about the MJ effect- in fact i thought RiRi was Jacko for a split second (which is so wrong- she's a beauty!).....!!!!


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For walking down the runway-red carpet/performing on stage YAY. For walking down the street NAY

"Annie are you okay Annie are you okay are you okay Annie?"
Jum'on get on it!


"(Emmanuel Lewis accessory sold separately.)"

That says it all.

Doesn't really matter that the style originated elsewhere, what has taken over in the collective conscience about the (once pretty cool) look is that it is unfortunately associated w/ Michael Jackson and all his various and unsundry weirdnesses.


I just protested the circus, I can't do it again! Damn Ringmasters are taking over the world.


ACK!!! I'm having another flashback to 1983 - why won't the 80s die - why must it be resurrected???!!!


It would be a fine jacket if it weren't a rehash of the exact same jacket that Decarnin did a season ago.


"Just beat it, beat it..
Beat it, beat it....
(now switch to Weird Al)
And when it gets cold reheat it!
OY!"

Great comment.
second only to the "emmanual lewis accessory sold separtely"

Well, I have completed my "laughing coffee out the nose" portion of the day. Many thanks!


Rhianna actually looks like the "de-nosed one" in the second shot. Scary.


NAY! I've seen it around too much now and really, just unflattering... why make a person look more skeleton-like w/ the shoulders when, let's be real, the only body type that can pull it off are on that fine line btwn thin and emaciated.


I love the military styled looks, and didn't think MJ (which is TOTALLY my time frame) until you mentioned it. I like jackets with braid and frogging, and wish there were a designer that did a men's version that didn't remind you of MJ, which is more the problem in my eye. On a gorgeous woman, I have no reference to Michael Jackson, on a man, yea, especially in that ringmaster red color.


Looks like:

Sgt. Pepper recycled into
Whacko Jacko recycled into
Marc Jacobs recycled into
...

Enough! I feel like Austin Powers when he says to Gia Carrides in The Spy Who Shagged Me, "Why won't you die?!?"


PhantomMinuet said it first, but I thought Adam Ant, not M.J.

And if I were young and skinny and had the money - damn straight I'd wear one. When I was young and skinny, I didn't have the money, and wore thrift store approximations.

(Now, those beYOND Guns 'n Roses acid washed jean are a trend that needs to be a big NAY.)


I thought they looked sort of Sergeant Pepper-ish, and as such more "circus" than "every-day" wear. In addition to the buttonhole detail just looking way too big and sparkly for that first coat, and armor-like on the third. Yikes.


Big nay to the big shoulder padded neck-diminishing jacket!
Big nay to the evils of acid washed ripped jeans!

Please please, don't let the worst parts of the 80's return. Why God, why!?!


Actually, I imagine anybody under 30 is probably going to think Gwen Stefani over Michael Jackson and Bubbles, although both comparisons work. Didn't we go through this Sgt. Pepper shit a few years ago? Way to catch up with your ugly jacket, Balmain. Barf.


Actually, I look at that and think "Marching band!"


LauraI totally think the same thing! I wish I saved mine from school! The people wearing these for fashion have never had to wear these by force, in my opinion.


I don't like it either.


Great if we all lived in a Yellow Submarine.


St. Pepper is somewhere angry and coatless right now.


I'd have worn that.

In college.

~mumblety-mumble~ years ago.

BUT!!! In more important news!! Make sure your evening is free on August 20 -- PR returns!.


As soon as I saw the picture, all I heard in my head was the opening lyrics to "Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band."


When I first saw a pic of Rihanna in that I totally thought of Michael, but she was not trying to hide it.

But, you are right TLo, even as a fan of the gloved one, I would agree that it is too soon.


"Actually, that type of jacket did not originate with Michael Jackson; he just appropriated it. Military colleges have used that sort of jacket for decades, even more than a century"

It's even older than that. Military garments with horizontal bands of trim, (which also function to reduce the stress on the fabric of a tightly buttoned garment), can be traced back a thousand years or more. there are depictions of Vikings wearing them.

Margo


I remember this exact same trend from Seventeen magazine when I was 15, in 1989, but it was advertised as "wear old band uniform jackets!" As I was actually in the high school band (yes, so cool, I know), my friends and I all looked at each other and thought it was the stupidest thing we'd ever read. Why wear uncomfortable polyester jackets if you don't have to?


Those bitches are not The Beatles and this is not the days of Sgt Pepper.

NAY.


This makes me think of high school band, and the kids who were in it.

I do like the idea of these jackets, I always like some military-inspired embellishment on a well made garment, but this is over kill. Crazy appliques AND 'accentuated' shoulders? One trend at a time please.


For what it's worth, I thought of Sgt. Pepper until I saw Rihanna's picture. I could have sworn it was MJ - it's not even funny.

Oh, and I'm below thirty, for those keeping track.


why do I suddenly hear "hee hee hee" in my head?


Yup, I'd say you guys nailed it with your comments on this trend.


I think Rhianna can rock it, but the rest.. would be better suited to take it down a notch. It's the military/band trend that's trying to encorporate the "accentuated shoulders".. ha.


No. Just. No.
Now I'm REALLY crabby!!!


In the words of Stella's papa, "It's Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Sit back and just enjoy the show."

In the words of the great Harold Allen, "I love a parade, when I hear a band
I just want to stand and cheer as they come.
That rat-a tat-tat, the blare of a horn.
That rat-a tat-tat, a bright uniform;
The sight of a drill will give me a thrill,
I thrill at the skill of everything military."


I like the jackets themselves. What does it matter if it reminds anyone of MJ? It's a great statement piece with a military, kick-ass style and fit.


I think it's fab if you happen to be 16 and thin like a model and pair it with jeans and high heels. On anybody else? It's a costume.


I guess you can't ever button it.


This look is brought back like every 20 years or so, snore.

While it is a "pretty" version of a band jacket, it's still a band jacket. Nothing new, nothing old made newly interesting.

NAY.


Anyone over the age of 15 looks at that and thinks of the De-nosed One.
Especially the way RiRi is wearing her hair.

Ugh. The whole thing is even more pathetic and sad in acid wash form.


I've seen people all over the place raving over this thing and am so relieved to finally find someone who dislikes it as much as I do.

To me it just SCREAMS "costume-y". When you can't look at an article of clothing without thinking of a pop star, it is not a good thing.


this originates from the russian cavalry jackets way BACK in late 18 - early 19 century.


Jacket schmacket

Get a load o' the heinous jeans Ri's friend is wearing.

There's a big NAY.


too many cats

So wrong in so many ways.
The short sleeves (where's the child it was stolen from?).
The tattered jeans (ever worn them? in the real world?)

And the MJ chimp. Oh, that explains the wonky length...all the extra fabric went to the chimp's version with long arms.


On the model, hmmm... no. On fashion-drunk celebrities, yuk. Just think about it a year from now.


From Lillithcat:
"BUT!!! In more important news!! Make sure your evening is free on August 20 -- PR returns!."

YIKES - Thursday nights at 10:00, starting August 20? Will Le Miz be finished by then, or will we be forced to choose between Bravo and Lifetime for the overlap? You know Bravo, they loooooove to drag out a show. Could it really get cutthroat?

Quick, grab the smelling salts!


"professional beard Brooke Shields?"

Sorry?

Explain?


Sorry, the formerly snazzy military look, if not overdone, was nifty.

But now the association with Michael Jackson just makes me want to cringe whenever I see this.

Out. For the next quarter century at least.


another laura

I really loved military-style, fab jackets with epaulettes (for example, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and could you include YSL Russian look greatcoats?), but MJ has really ruined them.

Hell to the No!


NO.

It's marginally less Michael Jackson-y in the light blue, but still ugly and derivative and OUT.


You all think of Michael Jackson, but I guarantee you that many of those under 25 are thinking of My Chemical Romance's "Black Parade" alter-egos. But those were COSTUMES.


The shoulders are a little much for me, but i love the military embellishments.


"professional beard Brooke Shields?"

Sorry?

Explain?
-----------
A "beard" is a cover-up. MJ used to be seen a lot with Brook Shields, and tried to make as if they were an item.


"Tlo said: it's about the fact that it is solely derivative of one (largely fallen and discredited) celebrity of years past."



When I see the jacket, I don't think Michael Jackson: I think marching band.

In fact, I still have a marching band jacket I bought at a thrift shop, in the early 80's, and used to wear around (before Jacko wore his). Of course, this was the 80's, so that wasn't the goofiest thing I wore.

I miss those days.

--GothamTomato


Damn....I KNEW I should have kept the old Russian military jacket (I believe it was some division of the Hussars) that I found in the trunk of my Baba's (grandma for the non-ethnic) friend's house. Mrs. Opelansky let me take it home and it was a STAPLE throughout my college years (which was in the early 70's) and I thought I was quite the fashion plate and as I recall did receive tons of compliments on it! I LOVED that jacket!


The only place I want to see those jackets are on the cover of Sgt. Pepper's Loney Hearts Club Band.


I have a black Zara military-inspired jacket that is my quite lovely and understated not to this trend. I love it. (And I only saw the Jacko ref when TLo mentioned it, but oh well.)
But I swoon over ridiculous fashion anyway.


Those girls look pretty in whatever they wear, but I'm not feeling the open look.

I love a military style jacket but this is overly spangled. It reminds me of the sparkly jackets and shirts we wore back in the day when we were showing our horses. When there are 40-50 horses in the ring doing exactly the same thing, you need to do something to stand out. So put on your suede chaps, boots, and cowboy hat, replace the collar with a scarf, jump on your $3000 dollar silver-mounted saddle and $25,000 horse,and you've got the Western Pleasure look down pat. Fun times, especially when it was 100 degrees out.


I think Rhianna could get away with it on stage performing--
but that's it.
And I would want to see her in Adam Ant's makeup.


Non, non, non! C'est putrid.


"Anyone over the age of 15 looks at that and thinks of the De-nosed One"Exactly. I also thought RiRi's version was a bit Sgt. Pepper - but then - is that denim????What's the over/under on how many years before early TLC and Kris Kross fashion is back? Given that this Jacksonesque crap was late middle school for me, I'm thinking max 2 years before we see neon orange pants worn backwards and condoms as accessories.

Great, and now I have "What About Your Friends" in my head.


It's very bad no matter who you picture wearing it.


I love this jacket. It's fun and I would wear it anytime.


Are you sure it's not House of Dereon?


I'm more concerned about the woman in the high-waisted pleated jeans behind Rhianna.

Yowzers.


Unfortunately, I think Coldplay's Viva La Vida look has had some popularizing influence with this style as well.


"Anyone over the age of 15 looks at that and thinks of the De-nosed One."

Especially when Riri looks just like him wearing it -_-


GothamTomato said...

In fact, I still have a marching band jacket I bought at a thrift shop, in the early 80's, and used to wear around [stuff omitted]

I miss those days.
************************
My sister! Mine, I suspect, originated in a cadet corps at a military high school somewhere. I loved it. I felt so freakin' tough in it.

sigh.

I don't really miss those days because I was so dumb (comes of being young!), but gosh, I miss being cute enough to get away with some of the ridiculous things I wore.


As someone with God-given big shoulders, I gotta say NAY to this one.
I have never been fond of this sort of military inspired jacket with all that crappola on the front, not even on people without the shoulder issues I have.

Just looks stupid to me.


That is ugly.


"formerlyAnon said: I miss being cute enough to get away with some of the ridiculous things I wore."




Exactly. I miss being young enough to look ridiculous without looking ridiculous.

--GothamTomato


bitchybitchybitchy

There is no way to look at this jacket without thinking of a pre-pedophile-charges Michael Jackson showing up at an awards ceremony with either Macauley Culkin or Emmanuel Lewis on one arm and professional beard Brooke Shields on the other.

TLo, that one sentence is pure, sheer genius...what else can be said about that jacket?


Oh, I remember those. I wore them in high school IN MARCHING BAND. Why people? Why would you want to bring tacky old band uniforms to the forefront of fashion? EVEN BAND GEEKS THINK THEY'RE UGLY!!


A beard is a woman who dates a gay man to make him seem straight. As for Brooke being a professional beard, I think she and MJ were friends, like he is with Elizabeth Taylor. Now Lisa Marie Presley, who lip-locked with him and claimed the sex was red hot,is another story, though she certainly didn't need money. (I can't remember if they were married or not.)


Anyone who is 15 right now would have been born in 1994. What MJ reference would they have? (they would have been 6 years old by the year 200o)


I don't know. the sartorialist posted a picture of, i'm guessing a fashion editor/insider, a woman wearing the jacket and i thought it looked fantastic. i think marc jacobs did something like this a few years back as well. i think it all depends on who wears it and how they wear it and unfortunately, however successful and rich they are, beyonce and rihanna don't always carry off the high fashion stuff they put on.

PaperPusher


I'd totally wear it if it were given to me for free!!


I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Gerard Way.


Are you people CRAZY!??! This jacket is FABULOUS. Just look at the detail that goes into it. This is no ordinary denim jacket. This is the denim jackets of all denim jackets. Its a couture denim jacket. And it goes with everything. Jeans, Leather, Skirts, heck maybe even over a super simple cotton dress.
And I don't think of Michael Jackson when I see this jacket, of course I think of the Beatles. And who wouldnt want to think of the Beatles while wearing a coat like that?
DOUBLE YAY!


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