
Well, it's always nice to see the show veer unexpectedly towards the actual fashion world. Not that this was the most realistic challenge - editorial assistants, after all, aren't in the habit of mounting fashion shows all by themselves - but it did really put the contestants through their paces and gave them some valuable hands-on experience.

So, everybody wanted Jolibe.
There's a reason for that: the clothes are to-die. Just ask Natalie Portman.


















Not that we love every single piece, but the overall look is structured and tailored and very urban and modern. We approve.

Anyway, they got the best designer and still managed to fuck it up. Let's examine how, shall we?

THAT's how.

Oh alright. Sure, Ashlie deserves her share of the blame, but Dyshaun was being his usual pushy self and the decisions they were (he was) making were pretty lame.

Although they both deserve blame for snatching up all the shoes. Sure, you could argue that it was fair game, but if you're making that kind of argument this late in the competition, then you're supporting the idea that strategy is more important than talent.
Anyway, back to the bad decisions.

"We're totally thinking out of the box with hair and makeup."
Uh...no, you weren't. That look couldn't have been any more standard and boring.

And for all the smack talk about how they knew what they were doing, that fashion show didn't exactly go off without a hitch. Lots of dead air and lots of instances of models looking dazed as they're shoved out on the runway in poorly styled outfits. Color us underimpressed.

Unfortunately, the lameness continued back at the office.

To be fair, this page was bad due to a team effort.

Once again, Ashlie shows no ability to visually edit and she shoved too many small pictures on to one page.

We're not all that crazed about the big block of black, either. Your eye doesn't know where to go.

And once again, Dyshaun makes an egregious error in the copy. This is...what? The third or fourth time he's done that? And he's applying for an editorial position. You couldn't get a job as a proofreader if you did that once, let alone 3 or 4 times.

In other news, Zac is cute.

And Ann is wearing slightly better outfits although the color does nothing for her and we don't think she can pull off heavy jewelry.

This was a bullshit blue-boxing. Dyshaun has made so many mistakes and showed so little talent for the position while Ashlie has been a frontrunner from day one. Besides, "too many pictures" is a problem that can easily be fixed while "typos in everything" is way more of a red flag.
[Photos: Jolibe.blogspot.com - Screencaps: Projectrungay.blogspot.com]




12/11/08 12:08 PM
I totally agree. That one came out of left field, and Ashlie was robbed. What are those people thinking? Dyshaun should have been gone, gone, gone!
12/11/08 12:16 PM
"This was a bullshit blue-boxing."
I fucking love you bitches!
I agree, I thought Ashlie was going to be one of the finalists for sure.
I love Jolibe. They're clothes are GORGEOUS!!
12/11/08 12:18 PM
That is the lamest decision I've ever seen. Does Slowey really want Dyshaun as her assistant? Oh, that would be fun! The only capable person left is Johanna. Maaaybe Meghan. But Dyshaun? Geez. He's been a waste of time since day one. Ashley was professional and competent (if a bit unable to edit her photos!) - those are far more useful attributes in a real job than...whatever Dyshaun supposedly has to offer. Gag.
12/11/08 12:19 PM
I agree on all accounts. I wish Ashlie the very best and have confidence that she will go far on her own. Jolibe?! I DIE. I want every single one of those outfits.
12/11/08 12:21 PM
Okay, so I did catch the show last night, just to see what would happen after Kate left. Is it just me, or does the editing totally give away who's going to be up for the chopping block at the end of the show?
BS blue-boxing indeed, but as soon as the losing team was announced, I knew Ashlie was going to get the boot. I like to think it is because this show is a reverse-barometer of talent, or because the producers couldn't support an all-female final.
Of final note, Johanna's constant collars and halter tops really bother the hell out of me. It's a petty complaint, I know, but damn, girl change it up a bit!
My money is on Megan to win, although Dyshaun may be a tougher bitch than I thought.
12/11/08 12:31 PM
I'm stunned as well. I had to stop watching the show and just tune in for the last few minutes because it has really become, well, unwatchable. I predict next season Anne will suddenly adopt the Madonna-phenom and start speaking with an over-the-top pretentious British accent.
Dyshaun should have been gone long ago. If someone spells something wrong that they hand me at work, I stop reading. And I'm in real estate! But he wants to write for a magazine, jesus christ, time to go bye bye bye.
12/11/08 12:37 PM
Bullshit is right.
Dyshaun is like a lame joke. Why, on every "reality" show is there always one finalist who clearly doesn't deserve to be there? If he can't write a grammatically correct sentence then maybe he ought to rethink the career choice.
I hope Ashlie lands on her feet and finds a fabulous job in the industry. Maybe in the end, being blue-boxed will work to her advantage.
12/11/08 12:44 PM
Ok...I actually bit the bullet last night and WATCHED the entire show. I was mainly interested in seeing the Jolibe designs, as they really looked wonderful on the ads for the show, and they did not disappoint.
Ashlie was, indeed, robbed. Slowey not only needs a personality, but half a brain would be nice, too.
The thing that really bugged me, other than Ashlie getting the boot, was Slowey's jewelry. Did she ransack an old mansion and have the doornobs and old hardware made into that necklace? It looks like it weighs 50 pounds.
Great commentary, as always, TLo!!!
12/11/08 12:57 PM
If I were going to a fabulous holiday Downtown Denial party I would wear green silk satin and Channel green and red glass jewelry and possibly a few Christmas ornaments in my freshy dyed hair.
I would not mention Anne Slowey's irritating fake accent and would work the term "Blows goats" into at least two conversations.
12/11/08 1:02 PM
Ugh...I shouldn't be watching this show. The repeated bullshit blue boxing decisions make me wonder about the taste level at Elle.
Hmmm... I may have to become a Vogue girl.
12/11/08 1:03 PM
Why do they keep judging these fashion editors on how they do an art director's job?
12/11/08 1:06 PM
I thought this was supposed to be the last episode. WTF???
12/11/08 1:17 PM
Why do they keep judging these fashion editors on how they do an art director's job?
That's what I would like to know. I have worked in the magazine industry for years as a graphic artist and art director and all of these layout and design and font and photo selections are done by us, not the editors or editorial assistants. We decide the sizes and cropping and look of the layout. The editorial has very little to do with page except to proof the copy.
12/11/08 1:19 PM
"Tlo said: And once again, Dyshaun makes an egregious error in the copy."
Yep. Yep. Yep.
But if you notice, there are times when Miss DyShaun mispronounces certain words in such a way that it sounds like he doesn't know how to spell them. There was another glaring instance of that last night, but I can't remember the word now.
--GothamTomato
12/11/08 1:21 PM
""We're totally thinking out of the box with hair and makeup."
Uh...no, you weren't. That look couldn't have been any more standard and boring."
Or a half-assed attempt at Kabuki.
--GothamTomato
12/11/08 1:26 PM
"Tlo said: This was a bullshit blue-boxing."
Yes, but remember, Miss Tootie was the same knucklehead guest-judge who eliminated Emmett from PR, while Santino and his turkey costume got a pass through. (If I worked at the NYTimes, that factoid would be in her obit file).
She's nothing if not consistant.
--GothamTomato
12/11/08 1:32 PM
I couldn't agree more with everything you say TLo. Why the heck is Dyshaun still there? Totally unimpressive and master of mistakes since day 1, not to mention his attitude. I sat there all last night thinking, "why am I watching this crap?" Oh yeah, because of TLo! Seriously, you are the only reason to watch. I heart you!
12/11/08 1:36 PM
Oh, and Zac is cute. Made the episode at least a little bearable. More Zac please!
12/11/08 1:38 PM
It would be nice if Anne wore something that wasn't BEIGE, especially considering she rants about how important color is in almost every damn boardroom elimination meeting.
Dyshaun...I just don't have the strength to go there today. Suffice to say, he really should have gone home, although...
...Ashlie is quite the dumbasss for, once again, not making any decisions and cramming 800 pictures onto a page. These aren't even amazing pictures! Why can't she trim the fat? Making editorial decisions can be hard, but not making ANY decisions is not the answer either. Frankly, as much as I utterly detest Dyshaun and everything about him...I have a bit of a hard time feeling sympathy for Ashlie, who failed to make any changes even when she and Dyshaun discussed the very issue that got her eliminated.
Who are these people?! Where did they come from? It must be a magical land where no one has had jobs or responsibilities before the age of 25. Megan is the only one who has consistently seemed to have a head on her shoulders. Bitchy as she can be...there is no one left to root for at this point. Go Megan!
12/11/08 1:38 PM
And yet the idiots actually liked Dyshaun's styling choices!
The mind boggles.
12/11/08 1:41 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That is the lamest decision I've ever seen. Does Slowey really want Dyshaun as her assistant? Oh, that would be fun! The only capable person left is Johanna. Maaaybe Meghan. But Dyshaun? Geez. He's been a waste of time since day one. Ashley was professional and competent (if a bit unable to edit her photos!) - those are far more useful attributes in a real job than...whatever Dyshaun supposedly has to offer. Gag.
How is Johanna capable, and Megan only a 'maybe'? Did you not see Megan leading Johanna through last night's entire episode? Johanna didn't have a clue, from fashion basics to interacting with designers to laying out a magazine spread. She even went around telling everyone "this is my first fashion show, I don't know anything about anything" like a clueless rube on her visit to the big city. Epic fail, Johanna.
12/11/08 1:52 PM
damn it i missed the show last night! damn
12/11/08 2:18 PM
I actually thought their layout looked like it was ripped straight from the pages of Elle. That's not to say I liked it - I've hated the schizophrenic look Joe Zee instilled when he took over. I still get the magazine though because the writing is fantastic - I just skip through all the fashion pages at the front of book. I watched this episode with the last two issues in my lap, and I swear, this looked exactly like it belonged in there.
Also, when they put Beyonce on the cover looking like she is about to hurl (subscriber issue, not newsstand), I can't really get on board with anything they say.
12/11/08 2:19 PM
Totally agree. What a BS auf-ing that was. And as far as the necklace Anne was wearing, I thought it looked like plumbing hardware.
12/11/08 2:41 PM
Why do half of the models in the Jolibe photos look bow-legged?
12/11/08 2:44 PM
I was screaming at the TV when Anne Slowey said that Ashlie's leaving instead of DyShaun. I thought he was gonna get the boot after Anne said "One of you has been the stronger competitor throughout." I'm really pissed that DyShaun's errors have repeatedly been given the one-more-week pass when in the real world of magazine editing, the copy is more crucial than a boring, overstuffed layout. (That's the art department's job Tyra!)
Screw this show. My money now goes to Johanna. Then again, I don't even care anymore.
12/11/08 2:45 PM
Megan for the win!!! She knows her stuff and has toned down the bitchiness. With Kate gone, she has been able to focus and has not had to deal with Kate's psychosis all the time. I just pray she doesn't get stuck with her in the last episode. GO MEGAN!!!!
12/11/08 3:06 PM
Didn't watch show again, but as always live for your comments,
Want want want the clothes. . .
13, 14, 17 and 18 the best !
12/11/08 3:07 PM
I screamed at the TV (and woke my sleeping husband in his comfy chair) when they sent Ashlie home. As an aside, no other show has had me yelling at the TV quite like this one.
At this point they must be keeping Dyshaun around for the drama, since the initial Ashlie-Megan drama died down but now there is fresh new Megan-Dyshaun drama. le sigh.
12/11/08 3:11 PM
In that first screencap, was Johanna "I have a passion for fashion that makes you feel beautiful" seriously wearing biker shorts! Please don't tell me they are coming back in style.
Dyshaun is obviously made of teflon. That's the only way to explain how someone who makes huge copy mistakes manages to stick around in a competition for an EDITORIAL position. I could even tolearte him if he were one iota clever (he's not) or funny (he's vile).
At this point, I don't care who wins the fake editor's position at the fake office of Elle.
12/11/08 3:13 PM
I'm rooting for Megan. She proved to be the most professional last night.
12/11/08 3:15 PM
I feel bad for Ashlie. I think she had more potential than Johannna or DyShaun. I love this collection and Natalie Portman looks fabulous in that dress. Good for her for supporting emerging designers.
12/11/08 3:16 PM
Why do they keep judging these fashion editors on how they do an art director's job?
Thank you! I've been thinking that for weeks. I'm a graphic designer, and usually it's the creative director (*cough* Joe Zee) who decides the the direction of a piece, the art director who actually decides the nuts and bolts of the piece and the graphic designer/artist who actually does the nitty gritty laying out of the piece. The editor is the copy person. Yet another reason why this show is so shiteous.
12/11/08 3:19 PM
Anonymous said...
Why do they keep judging these fashion editors on how they do an art director's job?
That's what I would like to know. I have worked in the magazine industry for years as a graphic artist and art director and all of these layout and design and font and photo selections are done by us, not the editors or editorial assistants. We decide the sizes and cropping and look of the layout. The editorial has very little to do with page except to proof the copy.
Well, the same could be said about Project Runway. Very few designers can actually sew the garments, and some don't even know how to sketch, but it is a competition for starters in the field and I guess they need to show they have a handle on the critical elements of the business.
12/11/08 3:21 PM
Thank you for posting the entire collection, everything went so fast, I barely had a chance to look at the garments. Great designs!
12/11/08 3:25 PM
It is a disgrace that Dyshaun is still in. I'm pissed.
P.S. Bailey, we probably bought our voodoo dolls at the same store. We need to find a better one. There's still time.
12/11/08 3:26 PM
I want Megan to win : )
12/11/08 3:28 PM
That pistachio coat is to die for. Me. Want. Now.
12/11/08 3:30 PM
Great collection, no wonder both teams wanted to work with Jolibe. The shape and colors are lovely! The last dress reminds me of Keith Bryce's skirt for Brook Shields.
12/11/08 3:35 PM
Ashlie? Blue-boxed? Really? Made no sense.
Well, Megan FTW! Who else now?
Fabulous collection, thank you for the large high-quality pictures, Tlo!
I love the textures and the balance between draping and linear tailoring.
And Joel Diaz is married to the blond chick? I thought he was gay. Hmmm.
12/11/08 3:39 PM
I think Zac Posen's eyebrows look like the model's. Too bad when there's nothing else engaging except eyebrows!
12/11/08 3:42 PM
I thought Ashlie was going to win, but I guess we're left with the bitch, the other bitch, and the old translator.
(Not to knock on her age--I'm older than she is.)
12/11/08 3:43 PM
Jolibe is awesome! I'm a huge fan. I actually modeled for them and they are very professional and friendly.
12/11/08 3:46 PM
Isabella said...
Well, the same could be said about Project Runway. Very few designers can actually sew the garments, and some don't even know how to sketch, but it is a competition for starters in the field and I guess they need to show they have a handle on the critical elements of the business.
Let's disspell this little urban myth right here and now, since everyone and their dog (i.e. POSH SPICE) keep bringing up the 'fact' that "not all designers sketch or sew."
While it may be true that the big boys are no longer hands-on in every aspect of the design process, any designer who is not just a celebrity with a clothing line can, most assuredly, sew and sketch at at least a rudimentary level. True, not everyone is equally skilled at fashion illustration or construction, but let's stop pretending that there is anyone on this Earth that wakes up one day, with no qualifications other than "that sounds like a pretty dress," and becomes a fashion designer. It simply isn't true. (And, if you think it is, please come up with some ideas for pretty dresses and then try to find the financial backing to make and market them. Ok then.)
12/11/08 3:50 PM
Anonymous said...
(And, if you think it is, please come up with some ideas for pretty dresses and then try to find the financial backing to make and market them. Ok then.)
OK, then.
12/11/08 3:51 PM
For some reason, Slowey liked the styling and was giving Dyshaun "credit" for it. Imagine!!!
12/11/08 3:57 PM
I want a yellow strapless dress. Look at me! I'm a clothing designer now! Yayyyyyyyyyy!
12/11/08 4:16 PM
So we are left with two whiney bitches and a whiney desperate "military analyst" - "Please don't make me go back!!!"??
During the first challenge Joanne (I won't play along with the most likely fake pretentious version of her name) again showed her distaste for meat on the bones of a model or a fellow competitor - apparently she was the only one who thought STICK FIGURE was the best choice.
Honestly while I would have sent Dyshaun home long ago, serious in the prior challenge when it was between Ashlie and Kate, Ashlie probably should have gone then.
12/11/08 4:17 PM
I agree with everyone that Dyshaun has no business still being there.
But the thing that has amazed me throughout this show is that Anne Slowey replaced Nina Garcia. There is no way I could see her putting up with this show. BUT, if she had been coerced in some way, I wish we could have seen her chewing these contestants up and spitting them out. Now THAT would have been a show!
12/11/08 4:37 PM
Is Jolibe pronounced "jo-lee-bay" or "jo-leeeb"? I swear that they pronounced it the first way when they introduced them, but then Johanna insisted on pronouncing it the second way. Drove me nuts. Was she right?
12/11/08 4:41 PM
Nina is probably somewhere with a cocktail laughing her ass off.
I have worked in the magazine industry for years as a graphic artist and art director and all of these layout and design and font and photo selections are done by us, not the editors or editorial assistants. We decide the sizes and cropping and look of the layout. The editorial has very little to do with page except to proof the copy.
THIS. Sometimes editors will let you know if a celeb preferred a certain image over others, but the vast majority of the time all the art direction is done by the designers.
12/11/08 4:47 PM
Amy, it's entirely possible. I think last night's episode showed how little Joanne (love you, Ask) actually knows, beyond what she thinks she would like to wear. Utterly clueless. Megan clearly saved her ass time and time again, yet people are rooting for Joanne because she's "the most capable"? Hardly. It's almost mind-boggling.
12/11/08 4:47 PM
And yeah...this was definitely a bullshit blue boxing. At this point I don't care who wins, but I hope it's not Joanna for her sake. She might be nervous, inexperienced and has some issues regarding other people's weight, but she seems like a genuinely nice person and deserves better than this.
I don't think ANYONE will take Elle seriously after this. Winning this thing will be more of a curse than a blessing.
Ashlie, you WILL go on to better things.
12/11/08 4:48 PM
I was so confused with last night decision because Zac Posen seemed like he liked Ashlie's layout better. Maybe I was watching a different show. I thought Megan did an excellent job at the shoot, and Johanna should have gone home for the mess that was going on with the writing. His Egyptian Im Print. That's what it read to me and all my friends looking at it on first glance. Anne couldn't stand it either. I think Megan and Johanna had the best models,and Ashlie worked the hardest at the show. Too bad there was dead space
:( I know you all seem to love those eyebrows but I thought they distracted from the dresses. When I have the treat of seeing a beautiful collection I don't want to think of Grouch oh Marx.
12/11/08 4:55 PM
Wait...it WASN'T supposed to read as "His Egyptian ImPrint"? I thought it WAS, and didn't really get why Anne said it was so hard to understand (even though it was very awkward and forced). What was it supposed to read as now? I'm confused!
12/11/08 5:16 PM
I think the intention was for it to read His Egyptian Imprint. You are right. The text made it difficult to get that on first glance for some. Visually it was odd. There was a lot going on up there that distracted from the other text and the page. I see ELLE pages with lots of small pictures cluttered on a page all the time. It's the titles that engage me the most at first.
12/11/08 5:29 PM
Why are you here Kate? You're off the show- get over it.
Megan proved she has the goods to win last night. I think she is a sure thing. After Johanna's total naivete and faux pas with the designers and Dyshaun's repeated editorial mistakes, Megan is the clear winner.
12/11/08 5:35 PM
Loved the designer/collection they picked. I wish they had given them more time to complete this task. There's now way you can do a good job with less than 24 hours. Very lame blue-boxing, indeed. I hope DyShaun doesn't win this whole thing.
12/11/08 5:40 PM
I love how DyShaun accuses everyone of playing dirty, being a conniving bitch while he steals all the shoes from the Elle closet.
12/11/08 5:53 PM
Somebody please tell me what blue-boxing means.
The internet definition has to do with an illegal telephone device.
Thanks
12/11/08 5:54 PM
Anne said that Zac was discovered by her? Hahahahahahahahahaha. So not true. Was she joking?
12/11/08 5:58 PM
Anonymous - blue boxing in this case means eliminated and sent home. They have to carry their stuff away in a blue box, like they had a desk.
Agreed that DyShaun really should have gone. The speech Anne gave about Ashlie not listening? DyShaun's made more editing errors than Ashlie's made picture cluttering errors, so I don't see how that worked. And that's more important - I'm not going to read a magazine if they make such foolish mistakes.
He drives me nuts. I hope he's eliminated next.
12/11/08 6:05 PM
I don't know why they included Jolibe, they've been around for a while and have gotten a lot of press. I would consider them to be past emerging.
12/11/08 6:05 PM
Isabella said...
Well, the same could be said about Project Runway. Very few designers can actually sew the garments, and some don't even know how to sketch, but it is a competition for starters in the field and I guess they need to show they have a handle on the critical elements of the business.
Designers that don't sew? That's not a stretch, Rei Kabakuwo of Commes Des Garcon just conceptualizes the pieces and relies on pattern makers. Designers that don't sketch?
I guess if you count Kira Plastinina and Lauren Conrad.
12/11/08 6:53 PM
Johanna needs to be out. Period. As for Jolibe... amazing.
12/11/08 7:02 PM
Wait, Anne replaced Nina? I demand a recount at Elle! Nina could crush Anne under her stiletto heel, all whilst look fab, drinking a martini, and screaming at the maid in Spanish.
Stylista Kate, is Anne's style that tragic in person, or does it just look bad on camera?
And, Anne, honey? You're an editor. You should know how to use the word infamous. Lauren Conrad is an infamous designer. Zac Posen is just famous. I cringed.
12/11/08 7:06 PM
GO MEGAN!!!!
12/11/08 7:06 PM
"H said: DyShaun's made more editing errors than Ashlie's made picture cluttering errors, so I don't see how that worked. And that's more important"
Um, yeah. A too cluttered layout might make a page look bad, but the kind of editing mistakes that nitwit DyShaun makes would piss off both publicists and advertisers. And in the mag world, advertisers are ALL.
He has no business being there for any number of reasons.
--GothamTomato
12/11/08 7:07 PM
"Whitney said...
And, Anne, honey? You're an editor. You should know how to use the word infamous. Lauren Conrad is an infamous designer. Zac Posen is just famous. I cringed."
LOL. That was pretty bad. I turned to my boyfriend and started laughing.
12/11/08 7:12 PM
Will they ever end this lame show? Megan was obviously a plant from the beginning and this so-called reality competition was nothing more than a farce. Megan won before it ever began and there's been nothing real about this show.
12/11/08 7:12 PM
I can not believe Ashley went home and we are left with Dyshaun, Johanna, and Megan. Ashlie was my favorite from the beginning of the competition.
12/11/08 7:13 PM
Anonymous said...
Will they ever end this lame show? Megan was obviously a plant from the beginning and this so-called reality competition was nothing more than a farce. Megan won before it ever began and there's been nothing real about this show.
There's one more episode. You know, nobody is forcing you to watch it or even talk or read about it.
12/11/08 7:21 PM
Ashlie was by far the most fashionable person on the show. I cannot believe they send her home. She should've been the one to win the job especially with her passion for fashion. So unfair...I think you rock girl and don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
12/11/08 7:24 PM
Thanks for the posts, guys. I live in Singapore and always have to wait to watch the episodes.
12/11/08 7:36 PM
Anonymous or whatever. Megan is not a plant. Just because she has a personality doesn't make her a plant. We might be a little "different" but none of us are plants. Ok fine maybe Johanna is. I mean when I'm that old I hope I have a husband and a dog not a job at ELLE kissing someone's feet and suffering from panick attacks because my paycheck won't cover an outfit for one day that would fit in. I kinda think Anne's looking pretty groovy for a woman that age. No? I really do. She's pretty. There I said it. I THINK ANNE IS PRETTY!
12/11/08 8:18 PM
Kate- do you know what plant means in this context? Your response indicates that you do not.
12/11/08 8:35 PM
Quit while you're ahead Kate. You're comments are starting to sound a little nuts. You used to possibly be interpreted as endearing, now you just seem weird.
12/11/08 8:36 PM
I didn't realize it was that difficult to find a woman "that age" who is pretty. Who knew?
12/11/08 8:39 PM
Fabulous collection! It's nice to see more fashion on the show. I actually enjoyed last night's episode a lot.
12/11/08 8:44 PM
The show has followed the course of ELLE. It has deteriorated drastically over the past several months.
Of course I'm not sure that Stylista started at a point high enough to decline.
Tootie needs a more modern do. That post Farrah just has got to GO; honestly, she needs a reliable stylist. She looked washed out and bleah even with that interesting necklace.
Jolibe's clothes, on the other hand, made me covetous.
12/11/08 8:57 PM
I have to say that I was very unsurprised that Ashlie went home. Not because I think she deserved it but because I knew as soon as her team got called that Slowey & Co. would make the wrong choice yet again. My first thought was, at least she made it far enough to meet her favorite designer.
I really loved Jolibe's clothes. I also liked the prints of the other designer but most of his outfits weren't my favorite. Overall, I thought Ashlie and Dyshan had the better page (with title, copy) but the pictures obviously cluttered the page and the outfits didn't stand out enough.
Right now, it's Megan FTW for me. She has the most professional attitude, ability to do the job and is the most secure. Johanna's all starstruck and Dyshaun would be a HORRIBLE editor.
12/11/08 9:01 PM
Clarification re: my comments on Anne.
I think Anne is a pretty woman, and my problems with her personal style has nothing to do with her age. I don't buy into the "women of a certain age" line at all.
However, I do think that she dresses in colors and shapes that are unflattering to her skin color and her figure - especially given her job in fashion. Its a bit of the Veronica Webb syndrome (and sometimes, the Heidi Klum syndrome!)
I just never want to be taken as criticizing another womans looks! Their clothes, on the otherhand....
Also, Katie? For some women, the height of ambition is not a husband and dog. How about embracing the choices that women have - whether its staying at home or pursuing a career - instead of acting like one or the other makes you a pariah. mmmmmkay?
12/11/08 9:06 PM
I didn't realize 28 was too old to have not yet found a husband or gotten a dog. I thought I was still young enough to follow my dreams, even if it means leaving a high paying job to pursue my passion. Oh well.
According to the expert on everything, Stylista Kate, I'm totally screwed. Sorry Johanna, I guess you and I are SOL! Kate says so!
12/11/08 9:13 PM
Nothing is a bad as Veronica Webb syndrome!
For me, part of the fun of watching this show has been to see what Anne, Bret, and Malina are wearing. There have been color and fit missteps, but I think that for the most part Anne has looked pretty damn good. I try to overlook the fact that what we're seeing isn't really her style and taste at all. It's more like a representation of what the general public *thinks* an editor wears.
12/11/08 9:16 PM
Over the Hill Hannah....
I know, right?!?!? OMG! I'm 24 and about to graduate from a top ten law school....But I forgot to get a husband! Ack! I am relegated to the ranks of spinsterhood forever!
Or, you know, a fulfilling career and the ability to play the field while being pretty and in my 20s. Either way.
12/11/08 9:18 PM
Good point, Scarlet. I hadn't thought of it that way. That could very well be it.
Though if i were an editor, I'd use it as an opportunity to dress like Kelly Wearstler. Every single day.
12/11/08 9:18 PM
STYLISTAKATE said...
I mean when
I'm that old I hope I have a husband and a dog not a job at ELLE kissing someone's feet and suffering from panick attacks because my paycheck won't cover an outfit for one day that would fit in.
I'm surprised your fake boobs haven't landed you that yet.
28 years old here and still following my dreams. P.S. My paycheck covers several outfits; just bought a fabulous Catherine Malandrino dress.
12/11/08 9:21 PM
Scarlet said...
Nothing is a bad as Veronica Webb syndrome!
For me, part of the fun of watching this show has been to see what Anne, Bret, and Malina are wearing. There have been color and fit missteps, but I think that for the most part Anne has looked pretty damn good. I try to overlook the fact that what we're seeing isn't really her style and taste at all. It's more like a representation of what the general public *thinks* an editor wears.
I kind of agree with you I just wish she would learn how to walk in high heels. None of those girls at Elle know how to do it.
12/11/08 9:23 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this.... Megan FTW! I really didn't care for her in the beginning, but that bitch has grown on me. I've been in the newspaper and magazine biz for over 20 years and I do believe Megan has what it takes to be a Junior Editor –– and beyond.
12/11/08 9:25 PM
A collection of random thoughts:
I understand what Kate is saying. It doesn't seem wierd to me and I enjoy her comments.
"And, Anne, honey? You're an editor. You should know how to use the word infamous. Lauren Conrad is an infamous designer. Zac Posen is just famous. I cringed."
I know and, unless I am unaware of a difference in regional dialects, she mispronounces words such as "incomparable." There was one last week too but I forget what it was. I spaced out for several minutes of the show wondering what the education requirements are to work at Elle.
Someone mentioned Ann and Madonna in the same sentence. My husband glanced at the TV as he was walking by and said "is that Madonna?" She does have quite the penchant for REALLY big REALLY ugly necklaces, doesn't she?
Dyshuan for the win???? Please. Is he perhaps related to someone at Elle? It just defies explanation! The only consolation was he wasn't feeling the love from Megan last night, now was he? Heh, heh.
The exciting news is that there is a new reality show called GlamGods on VH1 where the contestants will style celebrities for the red carpet. Vivica Fox is the host and someone else who I don't remember (and no, that is not necessarily a good thing). But I did think styling for the red carpet sounded good AND maybe Tlo can focus on that show next since Sylista is (thankfully) almost over!
12/11/08 9:31 PM
Dyshaun has messed up several times. What the HECK is he still doing there?
12/11/08 9:32 PM
LLolita-
I'm pretty sure Kate's boobs get her a lot of first dates but I highly doubt they're enough to override her horrible personality and snag her a hubby...or a dog...
Thank goodness I'm 27- four more months to get that ring- or else I'm an old maid. Screw med school- I'm going on the Bachelor to save my apparently doomed life. Reality TV is the ticket to success! Right Stylista Kate?
12/11/08 9:33 PM
Shanghaishrimpo said...
I can't believe I'm saying this.... Megan FTW! I really didn't care for her in the beginning, but that bitch has grown on me. I've been in the newspaper and magazine biz for over 20 years and I do believe Megan has what it takes to be a Junior Editor –– and beyond.
I LOVE Megan, she's stylish, sophisticated, she knows fashion, she knows how to deal with the designers. She totally deserves to win this.
12/11/08 9:38 PM
I'm so glad Johanna is still around though.
12/11/08 9:40 PM
Anne Slowey always has too much jewelry on. Aren't you supposed to put all your jewelry on, and then take one piece off?
12/11/08 9:52 PM
Old but interesting interview with Anne Slowey. For those of you who think that fetching coffee or organizing a birthday party isn't what they're supposed to be doing, here's what she had to say about her first day at Vogue:
"My first day at Vogue, I had to go out and buy 32 goldfish and put them in 32 bowls and transport them to this woman's house without killing any of them," she recalls proudly.
12/11/08 10:02 PM
ok...call me ignorant but what does blue boxed mean?
When Anne and Joe are critiquing the contestants does it always sound like this: "We love what you did but it sucks" or vice versa. Maybe it's just bad editing but I'm always so confused by what they want from the contestants that by the time Anne says "I think we know what we need to do" that I begin to suspect that they just put the contestants names in a bag and pulled one out.
Gregg
12/11/08 10:03 PM
I love love love that black and blue dress in different textures. What a great collection! How come I had never heard of them before?
12/11/08 10:04 PM
Anonymous said...
ok...call me ignorant but what does blue boxed mean?
It's just like saying someone was 'aufed'; it's something TLo came up with, I think.
12/11/08 10:50 PM
StylistaKate: People here are giving you unnessessary hate because they don't have enough going on in their own lives :) I enjoy hearing from you. Don't let them get you down.
I want so many of Jolibe's pieces, as a man... those fierce gloves and some of the gorgeous jackets. Maybe I'll make my next investment piece a gender change so I can wear these fabulous clothes.
12/12/08 12:21 AM
Kate, you're 22. You are calling Johanna old? She's 28. Six years goes by oh so fast, and soon you'll be 28 and working toward your first divorce because you jumped into a marriage out of fear.
You have confirmed that you are a complete bimbo and a disgrace to our entire gender. You have an obvious defect that would be a psychologist's field day: Because you are so short you overcompensate in every other area of your life. You scream to make your voice heard. You whine to get your point across. You speak in baby talk. You pumped up your tits because no one has any faith in your brain. You look like one of those child beauty pageant stars wearing mommy's makeup and having mommy's hairstyle.
Grow. Up.
12/12/08 12:31 AM
Ross said...
StylistaKate: People here are giving you unnessessary hate because they don't have enough going on in their own lives :) I enjoy hearing from you. Don't let them get you down.
Ditto! Don't let them get to you. I enjoy your comments a lot.
12/12/08 1:26 AM
Oh Jesus! I was out at happy hour or else I would have responded sooner. For God sakes lighten up women. It was a joke. Take the feminist movement speech and just calm it down a notch. There are plenty of women in America who would cringe at the idea of being single and changing their entire career path at that age, especially Cancers :). Like it or not, it depends on culture. It's a simple opinion, not to be confused with a revert back to 1920.My salary and love life are none of your business, but rest assured your comments here aren't casting any curses on them.
12/12/08 1:28 AM
Oh jeez Kate. A Plant as in the producers "planted" her in the show to win not a living green thing.
Get the f*ck over yourself seriously. You are not Jessica Simpson, being dumb isn't cute it just makes you look like an idiot. You better get working on that husband fantasy soon since the last 2 "people you were going to marry" didn't exactly pan out.
Oh and if your boobs were just to make you look older as you claim then why do you have D cups especially given your height..oh right because you WANT MALE ATTENTION and not the good kind either.
12/12/08 1:32 AM
Stylista Kate-
ASTROLOGY DOES NOT DETERMINE EVER FACET OF ONE'S LIFE JESUS GET OFF IT!
12/12/08 2:11 AM
I can't believe that there are any adults at Elle that think the show is helping their image. This is not fashion. This is not talent discovery. This is not enlightening.
It is tacky and petty.
They collectively soil themselves in public -- week after week.
12/12/08 6:55 AM
I haven't watched the show, but as a graphic designer, I have a bone to pick.
Designing magazine page layouts is a completely different skill, not to mention career path, from styling and editing! I find it highly disrespectful to graphic designers that the show seems to think that editorial assistants have (or even should have) the chops to put together a good looking layout.
Feh!
12/12/08 8:00 AM
For Pete's sake, folks, lighten up! The vitriol being directed at Kate is over the top and, frankly, undermines your positions of moral superiority.
12/12/08 8:01 AM
Wow, talk about just cheap shit. Don't know if this was a producer decision or what but either way it was the wrong one. Dyshaun has NEVER been an asset. Even Kate sometimes had way more talent then him. If people want to not be able to read an article because of 50 million typos, then sure hire him. Ashlie should've stayed.
12/12/08 8:19 AM
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but in the opening challenge that Megan won, wasn't the first model chosen Andrae's model Danielle from PR?
12/12/08 8:20 AM
Initially, I didn't appreciate the age comments, but if Kate says it was a joke, then it was a joke. Done. When one doesn't know the writer, it's hard to tell if the comments are meant to be serious or sarcastic.
But guys, let's not go to Dyshaun's level with personal attacks. This show really isn't all that serious. It's supposed to be fun!
12/12/08 9:18 AM
So, in this morning's WP Express, they had an interview with Johanna. The article clearly showed that she really does not have what it takes to be successful in the fashion industry. Her ideas of fashion and beauty are so limited, restrictive and narrow. And, after reading it, I'm actually rooting for greasy bear (Megan) to win. Megan, despite her seemingly wretched personality, seems to have the instincts and talent to make it in the fashion industry. Dyshaun, the grammatically-challenged, walking stereotype, is a buffoon and definitely not the "right fit" for an editorial position.
12/12/08 9:22 AM
Velvet said...
Kate, you're 22. You are calling Johanna old? She's 28. Six years goes by oh so fast, and soon you'll be 28 and working toward your first divorce because you jumped into a marriage out of fear.
You have confirmed that you are a complete bimbo and a disgrace to our entire gender. You have an obvious defect that would be a psychologist's field day: Because you are so short you overcompensate in every other area of your life. You scream to make your voice heard. You whine to get your point across. You speak in baby talk. You pumped up your tits because no one has any faith in your brain. You look like one of those child beauty pageant stars wearing mommy's makeup and having mommy's hairstyle.
Grow. Up.
Haha. You bitch and moan about someone you don't even know, deride her "tits," call her stupid, a disgrace to her gender, and say she looks like a child beauty queen (which, let's face it, she doesn't, those pageant kids are wayyyyy more whore-ish)....yet KATE is the one that is supposed to grow up? Congrats Velvet, you officially suck.
(Whitney, I find it hilarious you call Kate out on supposedly judging the life choices of women who concentrate on their careers, then turn around and judge women who prefer to concentrate on their family lives! Oh wow, aren't you so damn enlightened?)
12/12/08 9:42 AM
Guys, let's avoid personal attacks. Thanks!
T&L
12/12/08 9:46 AM
I'm pretty sure Johanna has a dog. I saw it on the CW bonus clips. So, she's 50% there Katie! I think you better get to work on the husband thing, since you apparently get dumped all the time.
12/12/08 9:51 AM
Who thought the day would come when I wanted to start a Team Megan brigade.
12/12/08 9:53 AM
Elle certainly isn't covering itself with glory, is it?
12/12/08 9:58 AM
MEGAN FOR THE WIN!!!! I love her. Smart, beautiful, sassy, funny, has her stuff together. LOVE HER!!!
12/12/08 9:59 AM
@ get off it, ho -
Hilarious! I too find her attitude and arrogance ridiculous. Yet another poser who thinks that just because she has a strong preference for what SHE would like to wear, suddenly she knows something about style and fashion. It's unfortunate that the dull, identical outfits you've worn all season long belie that little notion.
Wasn't this also the girl that thought it was an incredible accomplishment to have a Master's by 28? Arrogance will only take you so far Johanna, especially when your accomplishments are exponentially more mundane than you are prone to believe. You can feel yourself, but you will never fool industry professionals who have actual experience and knowledge to counter...what, your wanton preference for high necklines?
Hahaha.
12/12/08 1:13 PM
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but in the opening challenge that Megan won, wasn't the first model chosen Andrae's model Danielle from PR?
Yes, I thought I recognized her! She is adorable.
12/12/08 1:24 PM
Yuck. Yuckity yucky yuck.
Out of a field of contestants with very few even mildly likeable people...
Following a series of tasks that either seemed unrelated to the supposed goal of the contest, or were structured and/or edited in such a way that we couldn't see who had skill or talent...
And we're left with Johanna, Dyshaun and Megan?
That's nauseating. Megan seems to be the most level headed of the three (can't believe I said that), but frankly, there were many weeks where she sort of 'sat out' of the task. So I have no impression of her being capable as an editor.
Dyshaun is an evil child and Johanna is a hot mess -- so I guess of these 3 I would pick Megan. That horrifies me.
12/12/08 4:23 PM
I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but in the opening challenge that Megan won, wasn't the first model chosen Andrae's model Danielle from PR?
Thank you! I knew she had been on PR, I just couldn't remember whose model she had been.
Honestly, Megan deserves to win. I don't like her (but then again, I only liked maybe two people who were on here), but at the end of the day, it's not about whether or not she's a bitch, it's about whether or not she has the skills to do the job. Megan knows the industry and knows clothing. She's also professional (at least in front of the bosses) and has managed to put out some pretty good layouts.
Dyshaun is a good stylist, I'll admit, but he doesn't proofread his work and has consistantly made errors in his teams' layouts. Johanna has the writing part down (at least from what I can tell), but I don't think she understands the business the way Megan does.
Granted, I don't actually read Elle, so the winner isn't going to actually affect anything for me.
12/12/08 4:56 PM
"Designing magazine page layouts is a completely different skill, not to mention career path, from styling and editing! I find it highly disrespectful to graphic designers that the show seems to think that editorial assistants have (or even should have) the chops to put together a good looking layout."
Exactly!! Now days everyone thinks they're a designer if they own photoshop. I work as a graphic designer in the magazine industry and we roll our eyes when editorial tries to design our pages for us. It's a boundary that we try to keep. The last thing we want is some little editorial assistant thinking that they know how to layout a page. Aaarrrgghhh!!!!
12/12/08 5:55 PM
Although an editorial assistant wouldn't do the job of a graphic designer, how else would they be able to present their editorial ideas to Anne and Joe other than by putting them together on a page?
12/12/08 6:00 PM
Forgot to add that the product for judging also has to be interesting for the viewer as well. I don't think the audience would want to see only an idea board or a mock up.
12/12/08 7:36 PM
I agree with Scarlet. While I certainly understand the indignation from the graphic designers here, I think they design layouts more to fit the format of an interesting reality competition rather than realistically depict the internship/job/whatever the winner will have at Elle.
While common sense dictates that a magazine like Elle would never let idiots like these style and design actual pages like this, the show could make it clearer to the more clueless viewers out there. But then, nothing about this show is educational, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
12/13/08 2:35 AM
I'm not going to hold my breath for anything. I hate Kate. Kate is the epitome of evil. Kate is the biggest attention whore ever. She makws me have nightmares.
12/13/08 10:06 AM
I'm not going to hold my breath for anything. I hate Kate. Kate is the epitome of evil. Kate is the biggest attention whore ever. She makws me have nightmares.
That's deep! Take a break from tv and computer, and enjoy the holiday season!
12/14/08 10:12 AM
I'm not going to hold my breath for anything. I hate Kate. Kate is the epitome of evil. Kate is the biggest attention whore ever. She makws me have nightmares.
It's like postmodern slavery narrative performance art. Only, online.
12/14/08 5:09 PM
"Anonymous said: Kate is the biggest attention whore ever. She makws me have nightmares."
Oops, TYPO! You know what that means: DyShaun!
--GothamTomato
12/14/08 10:17 PM
Anonymous said...
And, after reading it, I'm actually rooting for greasy bear (Megan) to win.
9:18 AM
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Megan does look like a greasy bear. I can practically smell the BO through the tv. And anyone with such ugly fingers (her thumbs look practically deformed) should not call attention to them with red or black nail polish. She does know fashion but it seems that she's never really taken the lead on putting together a page. She's made some pretty big mistakes but is so devious that she has a way of hanging back when she's screwed the pooch and letting others take the blame. She's toned down the evil but I find her just repulsive on every level. Johanna doesn't have the knowledge of fashion (even though she always manages to look so much better than the greasy bear) but she does know how to write and edit. Plus she's clearly smart and hard-working. I thought for sure she was getting the loser's edit last week but maybe they're setting her up for the win. I hope so. Because the other two are just loathsome.
12/15/08 2:19 PM
some of the readers on this site are mean. you are worse then the contestants. whoever would take time out of their day to write about a girl they refer to as a bear must have great sadness in their life. i cannot, for ant reason, imagine anyone who would say such things to be anyone whose opinion i would ever respect. you sound like a jealous 15 year old girl.
12/15/08 8:14 PM
Stylista Kate-
If you still read this PLEASE listen! You started off as a pariah on the show, seemingly obsessed with showing your body and caring about nothing else. You were able to achieve great things, and you appeared to become classier throughout the show- and I thought became I strong proud woman to admire. I am/was your fan, but I saw the picture you put on your myspace page that has you reverting back to your old ways, overexposing yourself and looking not like a strong woman, but one who only wants to advertise her large fake breasts. Please be better than that for your fans, especially your young ones. If I had a daughter who looked up to you, I would be horrified if she saw your "Christmas picture". Don't forget you are in the public eye now. You asked for it and clearly enjoy it, so please respect it.
12/15/08 11:12 PM
It was a naughty and nice Christmas party at the Clift. All of the money went to charity. I went down to get my bag from the floor below at 11:30 and there were already people sleeping with one another. These were the girls that came in "dresses." Sometimes, not everything you wear is a reflection of how you behave, even though women like to pretend it is. But if it's buggin you ya I'll take it down.
On a side note: If anyone cares they posted youtube clips of the season finale. Just type in Stylista The Right Fit. There are four.
12/16/08 12:43 AM
Much appreciated Stylista Kate. I know that how one dresses does not dictate one's actions, obviously. But advertising your body in such a way, out of context (just as a picture), sends a very negative message and makes those who supported your plight seem like you were defrauding us all along. I'm sure it was a fun party, and I'm sure you like to dress up- but you are probably of age to cover up a little and think about how appear. Thanks for taking it down, I know myself and other young fans, or parents of young fans will appreciate it.
12/16/08 2:51 PM
Ha! Did Kate wear lingerie out to a party? Color me surprised (that's sarcasm people)! She says she loves dressing up and going to costume parties, and let me say, without fail, she always finds herself in a piece of lingerie only befitting a professional ( and not a professional business woman)... And, don't be shocked at her putting such pictures up for all to see- it's all she wants! Attention, from men, and totally disregards how utterly unprofessional she looks, or completely slutty. Rather, she has her myspace page linked up to everything she does, so that the world can see her fake boobies!! Yay!
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