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We said it last week: when Korto goes off the rails, she really goes off the rails.


At her best, she produces interesting, sometimes eye-popping, innovative designs, but in her quest to be different, she sometimes winds up with designs that aren't so much eye-popping as eye-searing. With Korto, it's either amazingly beautiful or insanely ugly. We think there's a reason for that.


We said that Leanne has an intellectual approach to design. When Leanne fails, the result is usually bland or boring. At the opposite end of the spectrum is Korto, who has not so much an intellectual approach as an emotional one. She needs to produce something amazing, something different. So when she fails, she fails badly but when she succeeds, the results are vibrant and amazing.


Unfortunately for her, she failed badly on this one. She wanted to produce a wedding dress that was different and unusual and she certainly accomplished that.


The end result was certainly different but it was ugly, overworked, and almost unwearable.


We're all for the idea of producing a wedding gown that goes against conventions and we love it when a designer or a bride goes for the nontraditional non-white gown. Unfortunately, this color is drab.


And the silhouette is just plain weird.


But the real crime is that it's way overdone. She worked that fabric so hard it looked like it was going to burst into tears of exhaustion at any moment. And is it us or are those ruffles on the shoulders uneven? There are way more on the left side than there are on the right. Not that symmetry is required, but going asymmetrical on a dress that already has so much going on was yet another bad idea.


The bridesmaid dress was at least a little better but we have to say it's somewhat notable that she completed this dress in the company of her peers and with the advice of a mentor. Much like Jerell, she may have needed the guidance to produce better work.


It's pretty. We think this one's also a little overworked but compared to the wedding dress it's the picture of simplicity.


We like the pleating in the bust but the two sides look a little uneven to us.


We like the fullness of the skirt and the layered hem. We also really like the belt but that's at least in part due to the fact that it's the only color to be found on either of these dresses.



Which brings us to our final complaint: the overall color scheme.


We got a little flack for saying that Kenley's dresses didn't look like they go together and Leanne's did. People mistakenly took that to mean that we thought the dresses should have "matched" somehow. What we meant was the dresses needed to look like they were going for the same feel. Both of Leanne's dresses had that ethereal dreamlike quality to them whereas Kenley's wedding dress was an over-the-top fantasy dress paired with a basic party dress for the bridesmaid.


We can at least admit that these dresses look compatible but the problem is with the color scheme. If you're going to put the bride in a somewhat drab neutral, it kind of behooves you to put some sort of color on the rest of the bridal party. Not only are both dresses colorless, they're virtually the same neutral tone. This would have been the most depressing wedding ever.


We would have been very upset if Korto had been auf'd over these dresses but we certainly would have understood why. The judges looked at the whole of their output and the potential for their runway show and decided that Korto had more going on than Jerell did. Having seen both of their runway shows, we have to say we agreed with them on that.

[Screencaps: Projectrungay.blogspot.com]
109 comments:

I wonder why the wedding dress never showed up in the BP collection. Well I know why since it was a hot mess. But I think its funny that alot of people thought that white dress she had was the wedding dress. I just wonder what happened!


honesty.not.pc

I am all for having a non traditional colored dress but those neutrals were so ugly. I think that in a richer tone that they BM dress would be really cute. But there was no saving that wedding dress. Sheesh that was a hot mess. Those ruffles look like saw blades ready to decapitate her and Tlo you are right about the uneveness. I also dislike the way the skirt sticks out, it looks a little unsophisticated.


I wonder if Korto had several dresses that she planned to use as her "wedding" dress. Leanne, Kenley and Jerrel only had one wedding dress and it was clear that they went for broke with that one dress. The dress that Korto sent down the runway for this challenge didn't say "wedding" anymore than at least two dresses in her collection.

Korto definitely crashed and burned during this challenge. I think what saved her was that her bridesmaid dress was so much better than Jerrel's (which was one hot tranny mess, unfortunately).


Korto's wedding dress makes her model look very thick in the waist--which is always very bad. The band that hits her natural waist also looks strained, perhaps because the fabric has been so overworked, which gives to the impression that the bride's body is about to burst through the garment. The hips are no better. Over all, the material itself was more of a problem for me than the actual color. The main problem with Korto's collection is the fabric choice is very heavy; yet, unlike Chloe's collection, the heaviness wasn't made to look sleek, but frumpy.

Looking through Korto's designs, my main problem is the fact that the fabric (whatever it is) looks crumpled--constantly. This makes me fidgety because I feel like I need to reach over and smooth the material out. The same is applied to the wedding dress, which looks poorly constructed because of the fabric choice. The dress didn't need just editing--it needed a fabric with stretch and give so that it flowed instead of weighed.

Leanne's dress was good because of the smoothness of the bodice and the careful attention to the problem of puckering. I don't feel like Korto gave the same considerations to her garment: the bodice looks like it's been balled up and spit back out. The pleats made things even less smooth. The hips were ballooning out because of the pleats as well--even though the pleats should have simply decorated a fitted hip area instead of adding to volume.

This goes back to my serious worries about the execution abilities of this year's contestants. Out of the four remaining designers, I find I have had consistent problems with Jerrell and Korto's execution abilities. There's always been something a little bit off and a little bit 40-dollar prom dress in their executions.

Kenley and LeAnne, I will admit, have had consistent showings of well-executed dresses (though I cannot say they have always been good dresses).


That color is drab on a light skinned woman, like the model. It's not at all drab on a very dark skinned woman.


She had a full length ruffled white gown in her collection...I'm not enamored of it, but its not the hot mess that she put up for elimination this week. The taupe (?) wedding dress she showed this week was possibly one of the worst looks in 5 seasons...and I've mostly liked Korto's work in the past.


I absolutely hated these dresses. The wedding dress especially looked like it was made out of straw or -dare I say- cornhusks! But we've seen even real ones executed to perfection by Austin. This was just awful and looked like it would have caused her model serious pain.

Having seen the collections, I honestly would have preferred to see Jerell safe over her. She's been more consistent overall, I suppose, but I thought her collection blew. Jerell's wasn't great and his wedding dress was awful, but I at least found some of his collection visually appealing. Korto's bored me and I hated her color palette.


Korto was sure lucky that the producers decided to have the top four re-compete for the finale and that Jerell produced such a turkey. As TLo says, the judges must have took into consideration the body of work the two contestants had produced throughout the season, b/c these two outfits by Korto were just plain bad: unflattering and drab.


I so agree with you all, the fit and "crumpled"-ness of the birdal dress was a disaster. Korto was very, very lucky that Jerrel pooched the challenge worse.


sp - Bridal oops


I love Korto, but both those dresses were fug. The poor bride is schlumping in every picture. It's as though even she knows it's bad.


I do appreciate Korto and agree that she is capable of moments of inspired beauty, and I suppose that's why the judges chose her over Jerell. But I really thought that these two dresses were far worse than Jerell's two in this challenge. There is no way I could have ever looked at her wedding dress and thought "wedding?" Whereas with Jerell, you at least knew it was for some kind of special, blingy event.


I think, as much as I hate to say, Korto should have gone home for that dress.


I think that Jerrell's dresses, given major editing and a major steaming, could have been interesting and pretty. I really don't see what could have been done to improve Korto's wedding dress. Her bridemaid's dress wasn't hideous but it was pretty dull.
I'm thinking Korto lucked out here. I wish we had more insight into the judging process.

Anonymous D


You beat me to it, Victoria. I thought the wedding dress looked like those horrible cornhusk dolls my mom made in the 70s. So unflattering. urg.


The color of Korto's dresses did not bother me --- as individual and unrelated looksh However, if you were photgraphing a full bridal party in that color it would have been the bland-all party instead of a bridal one. I liked Korto's b-maid's dress in the longer length seen on the mannequin.

While the wedding dress had it's share of problems, if you took each embellishment on it's own then they might have worked (alone!) on another dress. But, you are right about the shoulders being uneven --- if it was not an intentioanl asymmetric look.

Oh, and I totally agree with your assessment and observation that Korto's creativity seems to be fueled by her emotions, which is fine because many a talented and gifted artist operate on such terms.

- edina -


The color didn't bother me on the wedding dress - all of the junk on it did. And I love the bridesmaid dress - when I look at it in it's long form in one of the screen caps, it could be a lovely simple bridal gown.

I'm sorry that Korto went "overwrought" on the bridal dress, but I'm very happy that she's still competing.

Auntie L


potty mouth princess

I have to go back and look at Korto's collection again because I remember Korto's "wedding" dress as something much better than this mess. I rememeber at the time (before seeing Leanne's dress on a larger screen) that Korto's weddding dress may be the deciding factor in a win between the two of them.

Were they allowed to add the bridesmaid's dress as one of the ten looks if they so chose? Someone yesterday or the day before mentioned Kenley may have added hers. Now I'm utterly baffled.


It was really bad.


I have to agree that with two such hot messes on the runway (Jerrell's & Korto's), they looked at the overall body of work and the potential for NOW.

While Jerrell, providing he goes to fashion school, has sooo much going for him in the future; Korto is about the now. Her construction has always been beautiful, her colors vibrant.

This was such a mistep for her. The wedding dress was probably the worst one of all four IMO, but her construction was better.

And the color?! Was it an arranged wedding where the bride & groom hate each other?


If I were Korto, I'd have sent that white pants outfit down the runway and termed it a modern bride. Or done a dress in that same style. That outfit was beautiful. Not a dress but that's okay. it was white and gorgeous.

I'm glad that Korto wasn't aufed, but she sure pushed her luck.


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I don't think the wedding dress or the bridesmaid dress are horrid.
They could have been vastly improved on the runway if.
1.She as switched models: have the blonde in the bridesmaid dress and Katarina as the bride.
2. Remove the necklace from the bride and place it on the bridesmaid.
3. Use the grass green (she is shown trying that) for the bridesmaid sash and maybe add a ruffle to the top and bottom of the sash, too.r
4. Have the bride wear a headress or ornament of some sort in her hair.
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I thought that the green dress at the end of her collection was the wedding dress. That dress with fresh flowers in the hair would make an awesome spring wedding gown for a fashion forward bride.


Kenley's dresses looked wayyyyyy more coherent together than these two did. If Korto had not made the utterly bonehead move to make her dresses the same color (seriously, WHAT was she thinking with that?) they wouldn't look similar at ALL.

I think a lot of the ideas in her wedding dress but yeah, it's too much. The bodice of her bridesmaid dress seems to fit really terrible to me, but I don't have boobs so who knows.

This pair of dresses really was worse than Jerell's, although overall Korto is the much stronger designer. She lucked out.


I thought the bridemaid's dress was OK, but the bride's dress was an origami project. Too much going on. I mean, even her bouquet looked like she was carrying a potted plant.


I agree with Bailey. She lucked out. Bottom two twice and the dresses did not impress anyone.


It was very scary to see that dress.

SPOILER!!!!



Since she didn't have a wedding dress
at the end of her collection I was worried that she was the auf'ed one,
especially when I saw the wedding dress. She was right to not include it.


I love Korto but that wedding dress is HIDEOUS and the bridemaid's dress is way too simple. HUGE disappointment! I'm glad she dumped them.


I don't even need to read past that headline.

Genius.

God, I luv you guys.


I am more than OK with Korto going to FW and competing for the win, but given her nature dress and the bride and bridesmaid dresses, if everything has been done on the up and up Korto would have been aufed.


I wonder why they didn't show photos of Korto's wedding? She said she used same fabric/color scheme for her own dress.


I wonder if she has been inspired Leanne and has been "noodling" around with more structured designs.


Yeah, Korto was lucky that Jerrell didn't get the automatic-in from the flower challenge 'cause these were NOT good. I cannot think of anything clever to say except that I'm so glad she's in. I'm interested to see her collection, and Leanne's.


How much time did the designers have from this last challenge to Bryant Park? How did Korto have time to make a completely new wedding dress for BP? That's assuming the white dress with the silver trim was her substituted wedding dress.


anonymous said:
That color is drab on a light skinned woman, like the model. It's not at all drab on a very dark skinned woman.



I totally agree. I avoid putting that color on my pale ass, but on someone with a lovely mocha skin color or darker it would look great!


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I agree that Korto's champagne-y color would have looked OK on darker skin, there are SO many colors that would have looked better on darker skin. Cool white, winter white, and off white look beautiful on dark skin. But that begs the question:

Did Korto expect to be using a black model for this dress? Did it come as a surprise that her model would be fair or light skinned? I don't think she really planned and thought about it. The fact that she has dark skin is not an excuse-this is essentially a job interview, and she's trying to show her skills as a designer, not her skills in dressing herself.

Not considering the skin tone of your model is poor judgement, and shows that she is missing critical planning and editing skills.

She also needs to explore a new neckline for her dresses. How many times have we seen that one. Like Jerrell, she needs to attend design school. I like her as a person, but she has some skills to learn.


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I think she took Tim's comments too literally. The dress would have been better if she had just finished it as she had planned. But I am sure after the prom dress comments she was not trusting herself.
She said that was the color she worn when she got married and with her skin tones, I think it would have worked better.

Did they have to include the wedding dress in the collection. I remember Heidi saying a collection of 10 looks and then saying an extra challenge of a wedding gown. Nothing about the wedding gown having to be shown at BP. I am sure that all came with a couple of extra outfits. It only makes sense to have some spares just in case something doesn't travel well, there is an accident or there are model issues.



desertwind said...
I wonder why they didn't show photos of Korto's wedding? She said she used same fabric/color scheme for her own dress.



I am real snoop when it comes to peoples wedding clothes. So I would have loved to see that too.

One more thing about Korto's that I liked, is that it wasn't strapless. All three of the other designers did strapless gowns. I am tired of that for brides. After 10 years , I think it has run its course.


Oh man, I just winced when her wedding dress came around the corner. The neckline, the color, the tightness around the butt, the overworked pleating, the shiny dull color. gawd, it was just horrid. At first I felt sorry for her but then I think I remember that Tim expressed reservations about it on his visit and she expressed that she was going to go ahead anyway. If you can't reconsider, what the heck?

TLo is all that is making this cycle watchable. Thanks very much, guys.


Anonymous said...I agree that Korto's champagne-y color would have looked OK on darker skin, there are SO many colors that would have looked better on darker skin. Cool white, winter white, and off white look beautiful on dark skin. But that begs the question:

Did Korto expect to be using a black model for this dress? Did it come as a surprise that her model would be fair or light skinned? I don't think she really planned and thought about it. The fact that she has dark skin is not an excuse-this is essentially a job interview, and she's trying to show her skills as a designer, not her skills in dressing herself.

Not considering the skin tone of your model is poor judgement, and shows that she is missing critical planning and editing skills. 3:53 PM


As you queried early in your post, it is unclear what Korto knew and when she knew it. I don't know what specifics they were given about how the wedding dress would be used to determine the F3, but I think she should have anticipated Katerina wearing it for that decision. Katerina looked good in the Saturn coat, so she may have thought she could pull it off for a showing with the judges and may not have known Polina would be her model for the surprise second bridesmaid challenge until after she made her fabric choices.

Having said that [spoiler about the finale collection]





in the finale I noticed right away that the model she selected to wear the (presumably) replacement wedding dress was a pale, light haired model.




I am still scratching my head over that choice.


I like Korto, but not this scarecrow wedding dress. The bulk around the waist looked like the dress was too large and was cinched in with a small belt. Not a flattering look. I would have never guess this as a bridal gown. It looks Gristedes challenge to me.


"Tlo said: Not only are both dresses colorless, they're virtually the same neutral tone."




I'm thinking that Korto's idea of this color choice was her thinking that if she made the dresses shades of Wiemereiner, that Heidi would go for it.

And I think you boys are right on inyor assessment of the difference between Korto & LeeAnn.

I was on the edge of my seat worried that those judges were going to auf Korto. I'm glad they didn't.

--GothamTomato


Poor Korto seems burned out at this point. The wedding dress was all lumpy. And the execution of the BM dress was not great; I liked the length but not the uneven hem.

Katarina's coloring was okay in the BM dress, but I wonder how Korto ended up with Polina instead of a darker skinned model for the wedding gown. There were several who'd been eliminated recently.

TLo, you're right about Korto's emotional approach and Leanne's intellectual one. And I think Kenley's is an egotistical one! Cheri


The wedding dress was horrible - nothing about it worked. The BM dress was okay even though there were some serious construction issues with it - the hem looks really uneven. I much preferred Jerell's wedding dress but Korto's BM dress was (slightly) better. Her overall body of work is stronger (even though Jerell had three wins to her two) so I guess that's why they kept her in but really she could, maybe should have been aufed for these. Really substandard work for this point in the competition.

I loved many of the pieces in her collection but there were a few clunkers, including that white dress trimmed in silver that I assumed was her wedding dress. That was baaad, as was that short, tight green dress. And I didn't care for the dress that Amanda wore - the color was really unflattering on her. I'm still glad she got to compete because she and Leanne have been the two saving graces of this season.

And how freaking awesome was she on her home turf? I loved everything about Tim's visit - seeing her beautiful workspace, her very handsome hubby, her darling little princess, her drumming, all her friends. Loved the stories about her family's experiences in Liberia. And it looked like she put on a really elegant spread for Tim. I love Korto, and even if she doesn't win (and I don't think she should - Leanne's collection was worlds better) I think so many women relate to her and her work that she'll have a bright future.


"...their virtually the same neutral tone."

baaaaaa! You boys have impeccable writing skills...please fix!


avabee said...

"...their virtually the same neutral tone."

baaaaaa! You boys have impeccable writing skills...please fix!



We fixed that a while ago. Refresh your page : )

XO
T Lo


The wedding dress looks like the corn husk bouquet the model is carrying.


Like many artists, Korto stumbles when she begins to doubt her aesthetic. When she sticks to her creative vision instead of trying to "show" the judges something else, she shines.


If Korto had removed the pleats along the arms and gave it a very simple neckline, it could've been a stunner.


Sidewalk Story, on After the Sew, Jerrell said that they had 45 days to make their collections.

It seems weird to me that Korto would miss so badly with this wedding dress, but do so well on the rest of her collection. It's like night and day.


Danielle said...
Out of the four remaining designers, I find I have had consistent problems with Jerrell and Korto's execution abilities. There's always been something a little bit off and a little bit 40-dollar prom dress in their executions.

I completely disagree with the assessment of Korto. I think her execution skills are excellent - the Olympic challenge, the seatbelt coat, the DvF dress are good examples. Even her orange evening gown was well-made - it was the fabric choice that sent her over the cliff.


((shudders))
Both dresses were kick to the curb ASS.
I love Korto, I loved just about everything she created for PR.
But the execution, color, styling, you name it-- WRONG!

I'm really looking forward to seeing her collection. I'm particularly hoping to see the dress that Tim said had (paraphrasing) a "snatch shot".
I thought that dress was incredible & reflected the prevalence of sensuality & fertility in African art.
Good luck Korto!
Your bright future is definitely in fashion!


I'm really looking forward to seeing her collection. I'm particularly hoping to see the dress that Tim said had (paraphrasing) a "snatch shot".
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I can't believe Tim recognized it.


To Carol in LA:

I will concede that Korto has excellent execution abilities in some mediums; looking back, I can see that Korto has sent some very well executed creations down the runway. However, it seems her execution skills are limited when it comes to heavy fabrics. For example: the seatbelt dress, in my opinion, was not as well-executed as it could have been. Kerri had, in that episode, broken down in laughter because the seatbelts had made Korto's coat so stiff that the arms stuck out like a scarecrow. This was obviously an instance in Korto's short-sightedness as a designer who deals with heavy materials. The model had to exert force to make the arms bend and it shows in the final product, as I am pretty uncomfortable looking at the underarm area of Korto's coat. Certainly, the design was very good and compared to the other designs Korto's stood out as one of the best; however Korto's coat was a design that would have been better made with satin than with seatbelts.

On the other hand, I find that Leanne's intellectual approach to fashion has allowed her to avoid several of these material mishaps (though she is not a flawless designer). Leanne utilized the heavy leather of the challenge to create the stiff, inflated hips of her dress. You couldn't have done that with a soft fabric and Leanne seems to understand this. As a result, Leanne consistently puts out designs that seem quite a bit neater because her design approach matches the material. Korto lags in some challenges (such as the wedding dress challenge) because she doesn't seem to give as much thought to what a material can handle or is best suited for.


So am I the only one who thinks the bride looked like she was wearing a sausage casing? Who wants to be tied into their wedding dress? And hello, symmetry please. This dress had way too many distracting elements.

The BMs dress...don't you think that all of that chest exposure might be a tad distracting.

The colour of the dresses...bleh!


Big Korto fan but that wedding dress was horrid. Truly awful. Plus that white, long dress in her collection? Not good. It's as if she can only control so many yards of fabric and once she goes past that, the fabric fights back.

I wonder if Korto's white dress is going to be enough to keep her from winning.


Certainly, the design was very good and compared to the other designs Korto's stood out as one of the best; however Korto's coat was a design that would have been better made with satin than with seatbelts.
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I don't think satin was one of the materials that was stocked in the Saturn.


I wonder if the color and shape would look much more beautiful on Korto-- a woman with a body and a darker complexion. The back especially looked like it would be prettier on a curvier woman (which I know seems weird since it made the model look thick waisted.)


t.goodfellow:

Thanks for answering, but, perhaps I didn't phrase my question correctly. How much time was there from the bridesmaid dress/final elimination challenge and the Bryant Park runway. I don't believe that to be 45 days. I think 45 days was for the whole collection.

I am asking this because it seems Korto changed her wedding dress and I'm wondering how much time she had to do it. I thought once they were at the Westin, they were there for the show. It doesn't seem likely that Bravo would fly them out twice.

Anyone?


To Anonymous:

You've missed the point of my argument; on some level, the materials should dictate the design and Korto's Saturn design would have been suited for another material--in which case she should have altered her original design to suit the material at hand rather than go through with the original design if she wanted a flawless execution. Of course, I understand you can't take everything in consideration if you're working in less than 24 hours; but I think the wedding dress challenge has shown that Korto has lapses in judgment in which materials are suited for the design at hand.

Jerrell likes to use material to dictate his design; however, sometimes he does so at the expense of a cohesive design. Korto likes to let the design take form sometimes regardless of what materials are hand--which is what has mostly caused this wedding dress disaster. It's definitely a fine line and I think it takes a lot of skill even in the most advanced designers to give so much consideration for material-design balance but, for those who do it successfully, the differences and payoff is very clear.


I think this is a color that would look fantastic on dark skin but was really drab and blah on her paler-skinned model.

Kenley's was the only wedding dress I did like and it has been pretty well established that Alexander McQueen designed her inspiration. I didn't like the silhouttes of any of the others, especially Leanne's. I know many people like Leanne's dress. I just thought it was weird.

I feel sure the judges took Korto's overall efforts in the competition into consideration and she was sent to BP on the basis of her history rather than these two dresses. They are incredibly fugly.


I had really high hopes for Korto for this challenge, but they were totally dashed when that wedding dress came out. It's amazing how her wedding dress was so overly complicated and fussy, especially looking at how well-designed and relatively simple the rest of the collection was. I still think Korto's fab, though.


Danielle at 6:33 PM said...For example: the seatbelt dress, in my opinion, was not as well-executed as it could have been...

The essence of the car parts challenge was to use unconventional materials, wearability and model comfort were not the major considerations. In divergent ways, both Leanne and Korto made that challenge into one of the finest hours of Project Runway. Leanne used the materials and created something truly avant garde and Korto used it to took something classical and familiar and made it fresh and new.


However, it seems [Korto's] execution skills are limited when it comes to heavy fabrics...

...On the other hand, I find that Leanne's intellectual approach to fashion has allowed her to avoid several of these material mishaps (though she is not a flawless designer).


Leanne specializes in heavy fabrics. This doesn't mean that she can't do soft fabrics, it means that her comfort zone lies there. For example, not that Karalyn was being scapegoated, but Leanne's poor showing in the green challenge was partially attributed to the mushy fabric that Karalyn selected. That's also why the judges were so complimentary of her nature dress, because she went in a softer direction. In fact, that is how Leanne explained her dress, she wanted to demonstrate that she could do soft and flowy.


As a result, Leanne consistently puts out designs that seem quite a bit neater because her design approach matches the material. Korto lags in some challenges (such as the wedding dress challenge) because she doesn't seem to give as much thought to what a material can handle or is best suited for.

I don't particularly agree that Leanne puts out better executed designs than Korto. Not to dump on her, but Leanne has had missteps in execution: the aforementioned green dress, her Olympic outfit, this week's brides maid's dress and yes, even her car parts dress. Having said this, I would still state that Leanne has exceptional construction skills and her missteps have come from her being ambitious and over-reaching.

I do see your point about Leanne probably having a keener sense and giving more thought to the fabrics / material. I think that comes with the territory of the type of designer she is. Each designer has strength and weaknesses, and on that note, Korto is stronger than Leanne when it comes to use of color.


The best part of this episode was when Tim Gunn described Korto's green dress by saying "That looks sexual...We don't want a snatch shot." I had to rewind that a couple of times to be sure I heard that right. I thought her wedding dress was hideous and it looked like the bride slept in it. Lastly,thanks to those of you who warned of spoilers in your posts, it has been hard to keep myself in the dark re the finale.


I would have preferred to see a little more color, too. But, with a different silhouette and details, I'd have loved to have a dress this color.


Anonymous 6:33 pm said...
. . . I'm particularly hoping to see the dress that Tim said had (paraphrasing) a "snatch shot".
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I can't believe Tim recognized it.

You made me giggle because I heard "snapshot." I'm sure snatches haven't changed much since Tim's crazy bachelor days.


Korto's wedding dress reminded me of the costumes Patti LaBelle used to wear on stage during the "Lady Marmalade" era. Not in a good way, either.

I was aghast, because I'm a huge fan of Korto's, and I think the seatbelt coatdress is one of the best garments PR's ever produced. But as TLo and others have suggested here, maybe when it's just her and her art space in Arkansas, she gets so far in her head that she forgets to edit.


edison said:

I'm sure snatches haven't changed much since Tim's crazy bachelor days.
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um, they have designer haircuts now.


"I do appreciate Korto and agree that she is capable of moments of inspired beauty, and I suppose that's why the judges chose her over Jerell. But I really thought that these two dresses were far worse than Jerell's two in this challenge."

WORD.


Sidewalk Story said...

t.goodfellow:

Thanks for answering, but, perhaps I didn't phrase my question correctly. How much time was there from the bridesmaid dress/final elimination challenge and the Bryant Park runway. I don't believe that to be 45 days. I think 45 days was for the whole collection.

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Ah, I understand. They had one day for the extra challenge. When Tim gives them the assignment, he tells them they have until midnight to make their bridesmaid dresses. They also have the usual extra time in the morning with hair and makeup.

So, one day for the bridesmaid dress. Does that help?


This is one of the ugliest wedding dresses I've ever seen. I like Korto but she really should have been aufed for this mess.


i'm glad korto didn't get aufed for this, but i think she got VERY lucky - those dresses (particularly the wedding dress) were HORRID! i also don't see what (other than the color --boring) they have in common. yes, they both have some pleating - the wedding dress vertical & the bridesmaid horizontal, but the wedding dress has so much else going on you barely notice the pleats. the bridesmaid dress was somewhat tailored looking , while the wedding dress was overdone with frou-frou and reminded me of a bavarian wedding cake.

the bridesmaid dress did not look like one to me. more like something one might wear to brunch or as a wedding guest (in another color, please). i actually kind of liked it in the floor length. at least then it looked somewhat formal.

the other thing that bothers me about this is that she had plenty of time to put together that wedding dress. at least one can forgive a little on the bridesmaid dresses for which they were given only hours to complete. there really are no excuses for the wedding dress to be poorly constructed or for such an unflattering, overworked design.

the only reason i can see that korto didn't get sent home for this was that they had already pre-ordained that jerrell wasn't going to compete at fashion week.


I looked back at the entire season and couldn't find a compelling reason why Korto should have gone to Fashion Week instead of Jerrell. They both had some great weeks and they both had some amazing clunkers. Based on their wedding outfits, (again, IMO) Korto should have gone home. However, when you look at their final collections, Korto's (IMO) was much more professional looking (although not quite as interesting-looking) than Jerrell's. It's almost as though the judges (or the producers) saw their final collections in advance (although I know that's not so). I wonder if Tim, who did see a portion of everyone's final collection, and did express concern about Jerrell's, had any input at all into the final decision. Or --maybe--someone who accompanied Tim on the home visits, was more than just camera crew AND reported back.


Agree with pretty much everyone that the wedding dress was over-embellished and not lovely. On the other hand, I *liked* the b-maid dress, and in it's long version I think would have made a nice wedding dress.

I admit, I am not "good with color." However, quite a while ago now, I went to a lovely wedding between two designer/film people which was described as entirely "tone-on-tone" in shades from a dark cream (bride)to maybe something slightly browner than a pale, pale beige. (Wedding party, reception decor. In my head I think there had to be some accent color, but I don't have mental visuals for it.) The couple were seriously pale (red head & blonde) people, and somehow it was lovely. So I am not willing to damn Korto on her color choice for a wedding, maybe just for a runway show with those accessories and models?


t.goodfellow:

So when did Korto have time to change her wedding dress from the time we saw it almost eliminate her on the last show to the time it walked down the BP runway?

In the last show they were already at the Westin.


**spolier on final collection**

OK--Maybe I missed another comment, but hasn't anyone noticed that the bridesmaid's dress *is* the dress Amanda wore in the final collection, only with Korto's famous voluminous sleeves added? Maybe she swapped out the wedding dress, which was clearly ill received by the judges, with the bridesmaid dress, but pumped up.


Vanessa: (SPOILER ALERT!!)

The dress is very similar but not the same dress. she may very well have used that one as her inspiration for the bridesmaid dress, but the bodice is quite different (pleating just off the shoulder vs all the way down the bodice; regular shoulders vs halter), and the skirt does not have that nice layered look at the bottom. it does look like she used the belt from that dress for the bridesmaid dress. i actually think that one would have been a better companion to the wedding dress, but then she couldn't exactly pull that one out of her bag of pre-made garments. or even better, that one would have made a better wedding dress than the one she showed. (it would have been lovely long - or keep it short).

i can definitely see the similarities -- good catch!) but it's not the same.


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There is no comparison between Jerrell's bridesmaid's dress and Korto's. Look at them side-by-side and Jerrell's is a tranny mess. His was the ugliest, least polished dress I've ever seen. It looks like the girl slept in it. Ugly, ugly, ugly.


prfanalapenn, re various "housewives" -

Apparently so. The trailers cannot make me even remotely interested, but they seem to be popular. Buh-bye, Bravo, with the exit (but maybe not) of PR, I'm done with channel 16. Stylista? Rachel Zoe project? Housewives? nonononono. If I have to waste time watching TV, it's certainly not going to be there. Gosh, the programming has gotten really awful there.


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I wonder how the judges would have reacted if she had shown her finale green gown as the wedding gown. All brides do not have to wear white. I think that YSL showed a grass green wedding gown once.


prfanalapenn:

If by "mean girl" you mean Tugboat Kenley, I can't see it. That voice and her inflection has worn me out over just the relatively few minutes she has been featured on PR.


I think a wedding dress in something other than white is fabulous. Who the hell is a virgin bride these days, anyway? Wasn't that the point? In the not-so-distant past, even in Western European cultures, you wore your best dress to be married in, not all this flipping white extravaganza crap.


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This is the dress that should have sent Korto home. Her wedding dress is so much worse than Jerrell's. Just plain ugly. At least, Jerrell's dress was interesting in concept, if flawed in execution.


that wedding dress is butt ugly. i shall say no more.


About the models:

Everyone else was using their usual model as the bride. That means that Korto was the one who probably decided to put Polina in the wedding dress instead of Katarina - maybe she thought the colour wouldn't flatter Katarina since it was almost the exact shade of her skin; the colour did actually wash Katarina out more than Polina, although the semi-'ethnic' style of the dress would have suited her more.


Is it me or are Koto's models in the runway show looking like they're sleepwalking?

Geez, I've never seen such a bunch of bored, lackluster coathangers in my life. Or maybe she directed them to act that way. What a mistake; it might have distracted us from the unfortunate clothes had they shown some enthusiasm.

Fine with me, Koto is so full of herself and her bitch attitude, it was heart warming to see her fall on her face. Both she and Kenley have equally snotty attitudes, Kenley is just louder with it.


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The combination of lack of sleep, mind games, and being so close to their dream and a the slightest miss step could keep them from it, is what causes them to be so emotional.


i wonder something else. if she already had the other white gown in her collection why didnt she just say that was her wedding gown? it looks a lot better than her OG wedding gown.


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Korto missed a chance to really work with her East African aesthetic. I would love to see a designer take those African folds, shapes, patterns and fabrics and simplify them for a modern age. If that's the direction that Korto is taking, she'll soon find her audience.


bitchybitchybitchy

My husband happened to walk by as Korto's wedding dress was shown, and he looked and said THAT is one ugly dress. I have to agree. The silhouette is so unflattering to her model, and it is so busy-way too much going on.

I was just relieved that Korto wasn't auf'd.


"The combination of lack of sleep, mind games, and being so close to their dream and a the slightest miss step could keep them from it, is what causes them to be so emotional."

The first time Korto broke down was when her in-side out dress was criticized--and that was the second challenge, I think.

Same as Kenley, Korto needs to be able to take criticism if she ever wants to succeed in this business.


"The first time Korto broke down was when her in-side out dress was criticized--and that was the second challenge, I think.

Same as Kenley, Korto needs to be able to take criticism if she ever wants to succeed in this business."


Good point! She did break down earlier this season. I forgot about the shark fin dress.

You're right that she needs to take criticism better. However, I see her reaction to criticism quite different from Kenley. While Kenley defensively puts up a hand and denies what is being said to her without taking it in, Korto takes every word to heart, and her reaction is more stress and fear of being auf'd and not winning. It's like her whole life hinges on winning this competition.

At least that's how it appears to this anon. :)


Sidewalk Story said...

t.goodfellow:

So when did Korto have time to change her wedding dress from the time we saw it almost eliminate her on the last show to the time it walked down the BP runway?

In the last show they were already at the Westin.

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That will probably be answered in the show Wednesday, but I would guess that Korto already had it with her. It seems Leanne, Jerell, and Kenley all made ten dresses including their wedding dresses, while Korto made eleven; the ten for the collection and the wedding dress. Though if she had just used that white dress for her wedding gown, there would have been a lot fewer tears.


thanks t.goodfellow.

I was thinking the same thing about the next show clearing up the time frame.


Blogger Sewing Siren said...


I am real snoop when it comes to peoples wedding clothes. So I would have loved to see that too.


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Snoop at my wedding:
Las Vegas Leap Year Pirate Ship Wedding

Feb 29, 2008.

Inspired by watching so much PR...I made my own dress. Last season was on at the time. I wasnt working much, and sewed and sewed and sewed for a month for that dress. I wasnt much of a sewer at the time.

I wish I had their skills for sewing my dress. Not that it turned out badly, just that it could have a little bit better, had I been more experienced.


it's the children of the corn wedding. i mean come on! that shit is ugly.


Nightwind,
Thank you. Your pictures are joyful,beautiful, and inspiring. You did an exceptional job on your gown and I love the head piece and flowers. But if you marry on leap day do you only get an anniversery every 4 years?


I think I would have kept her bridesmaid's dress long and used that as her wedding dress. Then I would have chopped off the wedding dress and tried to salvage it as the bridesmaid's dress. Her wedding dress would have looked much stronger and if Jerrell's hadn't been so awful---let's just say she got lucky.





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