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Once again, kittens...



Let's get to it.

Not that we were ever completely won over by her, but when she made her totally half-assed apology to the other designers in their hotel suite, we thought, "Ok, she at least tried to give the appearance of being a little mature."

But, being Kenley, she had to:

"I thought I was the only one doing a short bridemaid's dress. It pisses me off."

Fucking PLEASE, bitch.

Not only did you not create the idea of the short bridesmaid dress...



Alexander McQueen Fall 2008 Collection

You didn't even come up with the idea for your bridal gown.

Oh and by the way, check out Miss Originality here putting Christian down for being inspired by Alexander McQueen. Hunh. Thought you didn't pay attention to collections, Kenley.


It's pretty. A bit much, but pretty.

But dammit, it's so close to those McQueen dresses. How are we supposed to critique this?


Lorenzo's inclined to think perhaps she was "inspired" by the McQueen dress but Tom thinks it's a straight up ripoff with only minor changes made to it.






How the judges could point out that it was a clear take on another designer's dress and then reward her with a win for it just baffles our minds. They could have just said, "Pretty dress but we've seen it before." Instead they said, "We've seen it before. Congratulations!"

Although to be (slightly) fair to the judges...

This was the dress that won it for her.


Then again, we think they kind of overpraised this one too.


Don't get us wrong, it's a really cute dress. In fact, it's probably our favorite look ever from Kenley.


But Jesus Christ, the Duchess said it was the cutest dress he'd EVER seen. Puh-leeze.


Absolutely a cute dress in a great color that was well executed. But did these two dresses look like they went together in one wedding party? Sure they have somewhat similar silhouettes but beyond that they don't even look like they should be at the same event let alone in the same wedding party.

Ugh. Whatever.

Check out how Miss Personality reacts to a little praise:



Nothing wrong with basking in the glow but compared to how petulant, dismissive, and downright nasty she gets when someone offers her the slightest criticism, we can't help thinking this is just a bit much.

Or maybe we just can't stand her.


[Photos: Style.com/Getty Images - Screencaps: Projectrungay.blogspot.com]
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Agreed on all counts. But both dresses still were prettier than Jerrell's!


Oh, TLo, who paid you to put those Alexander McQueen dresses up?

teehee...


Agree, TLo, mostly, on these dresses.

But that for a bridesmaid's dress was wayyyy too short. Color pretty, concept fine, but how would it look knee-length? I'm not so sure.

Hooray for seeing Shannone back! She is one fab model.


thanks for showing the mcqueen dresses. interesting
as for the bridesmaid dress, sorry but it is way to short.


Personal feelings aside, she can turn out a garment as well as the rest of them, and it matches her vision. This doesn't necessarily give her a "trump," as her personality is so difficult, in a way, she's her own worst enemy.


God help us all. I saw from the previews for next week's show that Kenley's "all trying to get along" demeanor doesn't last as long as hershey bar.


The bridesmaids dress was rather short, it looked more like a cute party dress, but Kenley's dress was obviously a McQueen ripoff but was made WONDERFULLY as opposed to Korto's and Jerell's dresses.


Oh and by the way, check out Miss Originality here putting Christian down for being inspired by Alexander McQueen. Hunh. Thought you didn't pay attention to collections, Kenley.

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Nothing but a conspiracy, you QVC-shopping peasants!

BTW, Terri looks WAY better with a little eyeliner and mascara.

Not so ANGRY!!! lol...


Ugh...I can't stand her either, and I am so happy you guys pulled the McQueen dress out for a direct comparison. She has been called derivative before--and not derivative as in Christian being influenced, but derivative as in nearly copying someone else's work. With her, they're rewarding her for construction, not design, and I find that highly problematic.


Didn't Marlene or whatever her name was from a past season (sorry toddler brain strikes--can't remember anything past 2 minutes ago) get auf'd for ripping a designer dress (it was the Hilton challenge)?

The bridesmade dress was better than Jerell's, but I'll bet some designer did that one as well--just in a different length.

Despite the fact that the producers were filling a quota by keeping Kenley, she really should have been auf'd for plagerism.

Did anyone notice Kenley's look when Tim announced they had to make a bridesmaid dress? It was the look of someone who already knew. I'm not accusing anyone of anything here--but it seemed to me that she already knew what the challenge was.

I WILL say this for Kenley--she is a great seamstress--I don't care for her designs, but given the time constraints and pressure, she does sew very well under the gun.


It's a Swan Lake costume. That would make even a ballerina look fat. Both McQueen & Kenley are hopelessly derivative.

Plus, why is human hair disgusting but feathers! It is to die! What. Ever.

they don't even look like they should be at the same event let alone in the same wedding party.


That's exactly what I said to hubby. And besides, it doesn't look anything like a bridesmaid's dress. What a load of horse hockey.


The McQueen rip paired with the obvious Balenciaga rip, marching down the runway in the final should be embarassing to this kind of competition.
Kenly is just a poor misnomer for unoriginal jerk!
-R


Wait, they gave her the win for this?

"Hey thanks, we're looking for America's Next Designer, but we'll take copycats too, thanks."

Goddamn.


I don't believe any PR contender would intentionally rip off a major designer. Kenley knows about fans, Project Rungay, and the thousands of media people who would point out such a thing (not to mention the judges themselves).

I don't care enough about Kenley to hate her that much. She's entertaining, adds some drama to this lifeless season, and editing accounts for a lot of the bullshit we've seen.

I think the blue dress is spectacular, and the wedding dress well-executed enough (compared especially to Jerell's and Korto's) that I can't begrudge her the praise, however over-the-top and annoying her reaction to it was.


Did anyone else notice that Tim visited everyone else's friends and family EXCEPT Kenley's? I thought that was interesting. Does she have any friends? Hmmm...


The thing about fashion is, if you really cared to search, you could find some other dresses that Alexander McQueen "ripped off" his from. But I'm too busy trying to remember which 90s hip-hop star wore Kenley's outfit from the previous challenge to do it.


Can someone please explain to me how Kenley copied a dress that had only been shown a few days earlier when she'd been working on her collection/wedding dress for a couple months? I'd be really fascinated to know. Did she whip this up the day before she went back to Parsons? Le doubtful.


I did not like her b-maid dress. Really unflattering - even on someone as svelte and gorgeous as Shannone. Looked like it belonged to the skating challenge. I am sorry but she should have been dismissed for complete lack of originality. Her dress in an EXACT COPY of the McQueen. So what if its well done? So, fine, it shows she has good dressmaking skills. Jerell's stuff was sloppy last night but it was his original work. I call shenannigans (sp?) as others have already done.


Good recall, Anon 12:22. It was Marla and I had been trying to remember also if there had ever been such a blatant ripoff of another (real) designer's dress before. Totally inexcusable to reward that.

as for the bridesmaid's dress, all I could think was, "I guess she's not supposed to sit down."

Oh, it's just not worth the wear and tear on my adrenal gland to get worked up over this bitch anymore. Can't wait for next week when she goes away forever.


Anon 12:22

Marla practically copied the same dress for the Nicky Hilton challenge.

But Loopy Lupe was auf'd instead for an original designed, but uglier dress.

Same difference with mean girl and Jerelldine


"How the judges could point out that it was a clear take on another designer's dress and then reward her with a win for it just baffles our minds. They could have just said, "Pretty dress but we've seen it before." Instead they said, "We've seen it before. Congratulations!"


Amen, sisters! I don't understand that either. According to the judges, Kara Saun's collection was too Gucci-esque, Alexandra Vidal's bathing soon was too Missoni/Michael Kors inspired.

What happened to this show?


Ripoff bridal gown with feathers, yuk. Cute but TOO TOO short bridesmaid dress. Unbelievable she goes to BP and J does not...after all the fab things he's created.


I agree with TLo completely. And I'm not just sucking up . . . really I'm not. Okay, maybe I am. I still want a t-shirt and one of those darn bobbleheads!


Yeah, the dresses are similar. This happens a lot, and it ain't exactly like Alexander McQueen invented that silhoette. Not to mention I think Kenley's tulle is really the focal point and the McQueen dress has none.

Not my fave but definitely top 2. LOVED the bridesmaid's dress, and I do think they look like the same wedding party. It's a similar silhouette, as you said. Should she have made it the same color, like Korto's? LOL that was a BAD idea, I can't believe she did that...but that's for another post.


siriuslover said...

Ugh...I can't stand her either, and I am so happy you guys pulled the McQueen dress out for a direct comparison. She has been called derivative before--and not derivative as in Christian being influenced, but derivative as in nearly copying someone else's work. With her, they're rewarding her for construction, not design, and I find that highly problematic.


Oh honey. Christian wasn't "influenced." Everything he made has been done before and better. Kenley, while she does obviously look at collections and lies about it, at leas turns out SOME original work. Christian Siriano couldn't design something original or different if his life depended on it. Jillian was oh-so-robbed by the cute little pixie homo with the lame catchphrases.


Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain to me how Kenley copied a dress that had only been shown a few days earlier when she'd been working on her collection/wedding dress for a couple months? I'd be really fascinated to know. Did she whip this up the day before she went back to Parsons? Le doubtful.


The Fall 2008 shows were some time in spring.


I guess she felt that Alexander McQueen's inspired collections guaranteed the win.


Let's just say that I'm glad the contestants on the show displayed more maturity than you boys. Talk about being petulant. Get over yourselves.
Can we let go of all the drama? How exactly are you not descending to Kenley's level - if you weren't already there to begin with.


Once Michael Kors brought up the McQueen similarity (spell that: copy), it should have been Game.Over. She used Christian's feathers and McQueen's silhouette~what about it was original Kenley? And to quote MK in a previous episode, the bridesmaid's dress was 'crazy short'. Very disappointing. Jerrell's dresses were a mess, to be sure, but he should have had an assured spot at Bryant Park as has the final episode winner in every other season. It simply blows, as you said, TLo.


It is a bit shocking, how close it is to the McQueen. And the blue dress is too short, yes. But the thing is, the dresses look professional, finished, and well-made, and I think they work well together. On impact alone, they looked far better than Jerell's and Korto's. Even if J & K have more imagination -- and I think perhaps they do -- Kenley's dresses made clear, unambivalent statements and looked like dresses people could, and would, actually wear.


Spot on assessment. The bridesmaid dress was ridiculously short. The comparison between her wedding dress and the McQueen dresses is illuminating. How the judges can reward a blatant rip-off boggles my mind.


"I never look at collections."
"Christian is obviously influenced by McQueen." BUSTED!!
btw the McQueen dress was shown last season not a couple days before this show.
All this being said I liked Kenley's collection better than poor ripped off Jerells. (But not better than Koto's or Leanne'S)


lighten up, it's just fashion.

repeat as long as necessary.

I think Kenley's is a lot prettier than the McQueens. Sure it could have walked in the McQueen show, but the duchess was right, there is also a lot of Kenley and her 50s inspired style in there. I didn't understand the transports of delight over the b'maid dress, but I liked it well enough. I will probably get the maid laid and isn't that what it's all about?

Stop getting your panties in a twist over those fabricated 'Confessionals'' statements. Kenley gave the manipulators just what they asked her to do and as a reward she's in the Top3.


Grace said...
"Did anyone else notice that Tim visited everyone else's friends and family EXCEPT Kenley's? I thought that was interesting. Does she have any friends? "

Well, don't Jerell, Leanne, and Korto all live in their hometowns, where their families live? Apparently Kenley has moved alone to NY to pursue her dream.


I had a feeling a few weeks back when you guys posted the Bryant Park runway collections that it showed the order of presentation that day. Missy Kenley being presented after Jerrell made me suspect that he got the axe somewhere down the road. I find myself doing this in other rality shows...I don't root for a specific person but rather root for anyone but a specific person.


TLo said..."Thought you didn't pay attention to collections, Kenley."

Actually that should be:
"Thought you didn't pay attention to collections, KEN-LEEE!"

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Geez, talking about Kenley on a Thursday??? Who is on deck for TLo Friday, Korto???

[channeling Heidi] Oooo, that's bad!


Oh Dear,

You mean to say no one here has seen the ballet Swan Lake? Mcqueen didn't invent that look. The costume designers for Swan Lake did.

I'm no fan of Kenley's personality, but her dress was pretty different than McQueen's. Her bodice used the feathers differently, having then shoot upwards, which is one of the things that makes her dress beautiful. She sharpened the color to a cleaner winter white....McQueen's is dirty yellow. She made it completely symmetrical, whereas McQueens is asymmetrical, and she beefed up the skirt portion dramatically with the tulle, giving it a very different silhouette. I think she is within fair range of 'inspired by'.


Here's what I don't get...

So yes, Kenley's dress absolutely looks like the Alexander McQueen dress, and yes, she has plagiarized another designer before, BUT this time, she designed a dress and showed it to the judges BEFORE the McQueen dress had even hit the runway...right? I mean, she went away at the beginning of the summer, and spent the summer making the dress. This episode was taped before fashion week...so how would she have seen the McQueen dress? Obviously, Nina Garcia and Michael Kors had seen it, but wouldn't that have been through some industry insider method that Kenley wouldn't have access to?


Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain to me how Kenley copied a dress that had only been shown a few days earlier when she'd been working on her collection/wedding dress for a couple months? I'd be really fascinated to know. Did she whip this up the day before she went back to Parsons? Le doubtful.



I believe McQueen showed his collection on February 29th.


Lord, it's the same damned dress. I do like hers better, though...

She is, most certainly, a monster. But that 3-against-1 crap the others do is just as monstrous. I was really ready to send all of them to a torturous corporate team building event.


Miss E said...
...she designed a dress and showed it to the judges BEFORE the McQueen dress had even hit the runway...right?



No.


Wow, and I thought her dress last week was a McQueen rip off (Fall 2005), but that's just too much.


PJ said...

Once Michael Kors brought up the McQueen similarity (spell that: copy), it should have been Game.Over. She used Christian's feathers.


On that note, Christian should not have won, because HE DIDN'T INVENT FEATHERS EITHER!!! lol

The ridiculous extent to which some people go with their Kenley hate is astounding. Just admit you think she's a bitch and let it go. Pretending like she should have been aufed for using feathers is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, and not of her supposed 'influences' have a monopoly on any of the materials or silhouettes in question here.


Amanda in Austin

Kenley needs to GROW UP! She feels like she's the center of the damn universe.

Oh, and what was up with them not meeting any of Kenley's friends or relatives last night? Does she not have any, perhaps?


Brooklyn Bomber said...

Grace said...
"Did anyone else notice that Tim visited everyone else's friends and family EXCEPT Kenley's? I thought that was interesting. Does she have any friends? "



That's probably the producers working their magic again. They shot Christian Siriano with friends having fun and stuff and they never showed that.


The Kenley Team is in full force. I'm loving it.


bitchybitchybitchy

Thanks for pointing out how little these two dresses relate. The blue dress is cute, but honestly I think the Duchess might have spent a bit too much time on the tanning bed before and his brain was a bit addled when he was judging this one.

Wow-was Kenley channeling McQueen when she made her dress? Hers was definitely well-made, but original, it ain't.


Did anyone else notice that Tim visited everyone else's friends and family EXCEPT Kenley's? I thought that was interesting. Does she have any friends? Hmmm...

the undramatic explanation for this is probably Kenley's family lives elsewhere.


I hate to admit, I really liked her Bridal gown ... until I saw the McQueen. While I'd like to think that no PR designer would blatenly copy (sorry - homage) another designer, Kenley is delusional enough to borrow the idea and then convence herself it was original. Or maybe she's just pyschic.

Her bridesmaid dress was cute. But what the hell do I know, I liked Korto's BM dress. I think its interesting that neither the wedding dress nor the BM dress is in Korto's final runway show...

I'm hoping someone calls Kenley on the fact that 1/2 her collection looks like the costume wardrobe from Dynasty, but I suddenly fear she will be in the top 2. I must be getting old, but the return of the 80's (puffy sleeves and pleats last season, Kenley's non-50's stuff this season) scares the crap out of me.


The McQueen dress was shown last season, not a few days ago; that is how it could have influenced her. It wasn't something seen early by a few days by Nina and Kors anyone who googled McQueen could have seen last season's collection(from a year ago).


I'm sorry, but I'm totally a Kenley fan on this one. I don't follow collections either, but I follow this site enough to know a) that Christian's new collection was a lot like Alexander McQueen and b) what, consequently, Alexander McQueen's style is.

So yeah... she's kind of sipping the company Kool Aid from a company she doesn't work at, but... the dress is still gorgeous. (I was surprised Tim didn't say anything when he saw it at her apartment.) And the bridesmaid's dress is also totally adorable. They didn't go together in a traditional way, but... they seemed like they would go together at the same awesome over-the-top fashionista wedding.

And the more I look at the collections, the more I think it'll be Korto third, Leanne second, and Kenley as the winner. I just think Leanne's is pretty and pretty boring, but Kenley's collection shows variety. ::shrugs:: She may not be the most professional contestant we saw on the show, but I think she totally worked that shit out last night and in her subsequent collection.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

"How the judges could point out that it was a clear take on another designer's dress and then reward her with a win for it just baffles our minds."

That's what frustrated the hell out of me last night, guys. In past seasons (Kara Saun's final collection in partic.), designers have gotten ripped for even hinting at someone else's designs. "It's too Gucci/YSL/Comme des Garcons, etc."

I know that Jerell's and Korto's dresses were misses, and Kenley brought her A-game, but jesus, that really pissed me off.

And the whole "I'm pissed off 'cause Tim told everyone to shorten their skirts" thing REALLY made me mad. Does she own the copyright for short dresses or what? Jesus, I know rabid conspiracy theorists that are less paranoid. Despite the half-assed apology, the girl has learned nothing.

Leanne for the win!

PS: Shannone rocks - when are you boys getting an interview?


Kenley is obviously aware of McQueen's work. She was definitely influenced by his design. I don't think she looked at the fall 08 collection and decided "I'll make a slightly altered version of that".

Im guessing the design idea entered her head having seen in before a few months.

that said, she still doesn't have much design integrity if she isn't paying attention to what other major designers are doing when formulating a collection.

that said, you can't deny her looks are her style. You can look at both dresses and say they look like a Kenley design so in that sense, it's somewhat forgiveable.

Doesn't matter anyway, Leanne or Korto is going to win. I'd say 80% chance Leanne will.


Brooklyn Bomber wrote:

"Well, don't Jerell, Leanne, and Korto all live in their hometowns, where their families live? Apparently Kenley has moved alone to NY to pursue her dream."

If I recall correctly, we had 2 guys who had moved to NYC last season: Tim visited Christian's closet-apartment and we may have met a friend or two (sorry, memory isn't that good) and he visited that bizaare fab apartment of Chris March's friend, but neither of those gentlemen had family present for the Tim visit.

So I agree, not really fair to make jokes about them not showing Kenley among friends/family. They may have cut it because no endearing family/drum playing/I'll cook for you stuff.


Anonymous said...
Let's just say that I'm glad the contestants on the show displayed more maturity than you boys. Talk about being petulant. Get over yourselves.
Can we let go of all the drama? How exactly are you not descending to Kenley's level - if you weren't already there to begin with.

12:34 PM
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Yeah TLo, this blog from a bitchy gay perspective would be halfway decent without the all of the gay bitchiness!

teehee...


OMG, she did so rip of McQueen!!!

I agree that the blue dress was "cute." But the Duchess saying it was the cutest ever??? Like Miz Jerell says, "if you want a white tee shirt, go to Michale Kors." Enuf said.


Oh honey. Christian wasn't "influenced." Everything he made has been done before and better. Kenley, while she does obviously look at collections and lies about it, at leas turns out SOME original work. Christian Siriano couldn't design something original or different if his life depended on it. Jillian was oh-so-robbed by the cute little pixie homo with the lame catchphrases.


Oh please.


Doesn't matter anyway, Leanne or Korto is going to win. I'd say 80% chance Leanne will.

I used to agree, but the way that they pissed their panties over a simple cocktail dress (that was supposed to be a bridesmaid's dress) and a Swan Lake costume (that was supposed to be bridal) makes me think Kenley is the winner.

Even more so because they only showed Tim praising her work, and he's the guest judge.

I don't even want to watch next week.


Did you notice of all the designers, Mean Girl Veronica had NO friends or family to visit? How sad is that?


Why didn't Kenley's bridesmaid dress look like it belonged to the bridal gown? Because of the color? It had the same silhouette. The bright blue complimented the color of the gown rather than taking away from it.

I could see a lovely wedding picture with those blue dresses on each side of the gown.


I'm still enjoying watching PR, and I was still glad that Korto wasn't eliminated last night, but I'm just a little bit exhausted by the season and the franchise now. I mean, is there any real doubt how this is going to come out? I think Korto's a talented and original designer, but if you look at last night's dresses and at the whole BP collections, is there any doubt that in terms of both originality and great garments, the person who really brought it is Leanne? I just don't see how any level of manipulation by anyone is going to keep her line from winning. Kenley has made some beautiful pieces, but original? Not so much.


Did you notice of all the designers, Mean Girl Veronica had NO friends or family to visit? How sad is that?

This post is obviously influenced by grace's 2008 post collection.


Kenley does display a sort of ruthlessness, wrapped in a sacharine coating. Just when, despite knowing better, one begins to MAYBE be taken in, and feel a little bit sorry for her, you boys put up her interview, competantly saying Christian was influenced by McQueen, which exposes her whole strategy & it unravels.

Then again, maybe she was inspired by this.

--GothamTomato


Both the Mcqueen dress and Kenley's dress are revamped Swan Lake tutus.


I LOVED the wedding dress when I saw it, and the bridesmaid dress, although it was a little over praised I agree.

But then when I saw the Alexander McQueen dress...wow, it is like, exactly the same. I'm pretty dissapointed. It seems like her best work is all copies.


total rip off! her dresses were better than jerell's, but it was all the way alexander mcqueen...


derivative as in nearly copying someone else's work


I've always thought her look was something she'd picked up from watching Natasha on Rocky & Bullwinkle.


Jerrell lost those challenge over hubris; Tim warned him about his wedding dress' shortcomings, yet Jerrell did nothing about it.

I still can't stand Kenley, though.


The bridemaid dress is Heidi's favorite length, which is why the liked it. On an average woman, in a traditional wedding, the bridesmaid would look totally inappropriate in a dress that short. Pleaaasssseeee!


Everyone complaining about Kenley's use of feathers and Swan Lake costumes...this dress is not even close to a tutu, so that's out. Look at real Swan Lake costumes and tell me how they're similar beyond the use of feathers.

You're right, maybe she should have made a white, a-line wedding dress out of satin. THAT'S something you could never find at David's Bridal lol.


Anonymous said...

The bridemaid dress is Heidi's favorite length, which is why the liked it. On an average woman, in a traditional wedding, the bridesmaid would look totally inappropriate in a dress that short. Pleaaasssseeee!


Thankfully, gowns designed for high-fashion runway shows aren't meant for average women in traditional weddings. If that's what you want, attend a bridal expo.


I felt the same way when she was so giddy after getting compliments. Even all the way back to when Tim came to see her collection in progress, it was like she was in total defensive, bitch mode until he started gushing about everything, then she was all sunshine and rainbows. Girl's got some mental issues that need to be delved into if you ask me. And did you notice how everyone but her invited Tim to meet their family and friends. Mayhaps she doesn't have any friends??? Wouldn't be surprised with that kind of two-faced, self-absorbed behavior.


The dress Kenley designed is similar to McQueen's f2008 gown, but You can also find that same silhouette in Betsy Johnson's "Prom" collection from last summer (I don't remember what season really) and come on feathers have been used in fashion since before woven textiles were invented. She may have been influnced but it's still a great dress. The bridesmaid too.
Did she win this challenge? I didn't catch that, but I was a little tight, so I don't know.


we can't stand her.


TLO, talk about Tim's fake meltdown in the workroom! "I c-care, care about each of you alot. Yes..a-a lot. Oh god your ugly ugly collections are making my eyes water."


Duchess, you have done lost your mind if you think that bridesmaid dress is the cutest dress ever. Clearly you've never been to a mall where you could see that dress in about 10 different shops.

As for the bridal gown, how can anyone be shocked that she ripped off a look from another designer? She's been shopping around half-baked Betty Page retreads all season.


Anyone that has seen Swan Lake can see the obvious Swan Lake influence in both dresses. Type 'Swan lake Tutu' into google, and look at all the pics. No one is saying Kenley's dress is a tutu. Obvious. But it is clearly influenced, as is Mcqueen's. If you can't see that, please do not operate a motor vehicle in my neighborhood.


I think Kenley's "issues" come from the constant repetition of people who don't happen to like her style say "I don't like it" and she's like "Well, I like it" and then they're like "You're an immature bitch!"


The dress was gorgeous

...if Daisy Duck was marrying Bjork.


Anonymous said...

Anyone that has seen Swan Lake can see the obvious Swan Lake influence in both dresses. Type 'Swan lake Tutu' into google, and look at all the pics. No one is saying Kenley's dress is a tutu. Obvious. But it is clearly influenced, as is Mcqueen's. If you can't see that, please do not operate a motor vehicle in my neighborhood.


If the only thing feathers can possibly say to you is "Swan Lake," then perhaps it is YOU that is the short-sighted one. Just a thought. No need to get nasty and condescending when you're point of view is clearly so narrow.


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Has anyone called shenanigans yet?


I actually really liked her dress, but I didn't know that it her dress looked so much like another designers. Yeah PR promoting coping other designers isn't cool at least Jerrell was orginal with his look and for that alone he should have stayed! And her bridesmade dress was a little "casual" a little to party dress, or a Highschool winterball it was beautifully made though!


All you bitches need to back the hell off. Kenley is not a terrible person. She runs off her mouth but she was cornered by those three and I don't blame her for the way she reacted.

Her dresses were well made and did not look sloppy. Leanne's were cute but so expected ("hmmm...what kind of inspiration can I come up with to have the excuse to noodle everything to death??). It's rare that anything is original anymore. Kenley copied McQueen but like some of you said, he copied Swan Lake.

Kenley is a good designer and nothing she has ever presented on the runway has looked at all sloppy. Her clohtes fit her models perfectly (with one exception).

You all are acting like she's a monster and she just isn't.


On the positive side, she did finally learn to take advice from Tim. This is how the dress looked before Tim suggested she change the color. (Tim looks so different in a sweater, doesn't he?)

--GothamTomato


Kenley's bridesmaid dress looked like a child's size 10. Not only was it too short, but if the model stood up straight, it would have been too short waisted, and the top was skin tight. And another thing: I'm tired of her faux-wrap bubble skirt. She's done it before, and before...


You know, I'm supposed to be attoning for my sins today, but you boys are corrupting me. If I am not inscribed in the Book of Life for next year, it will be all your fault. I hope you can live with that.

(And you know, a shofar sounds pretty similar to a tugboat horn, so I am quite comfortable shifting all the blame to you).

--GothamTomato


In Season 1, half of Kara Saun's final collection was straight out of Gucci. In Season 3, Jeffrey's haute couture look was an Alexander McQueen dress in yellow plaid. In Season 4, Rami went to the museum, saw a sculpture of a woman wearing a toga drapey thing and then went and made an identical toga drapey thing. We all know about Christian's "homage" to A. McQueen (he must be an easy target).

I also find it funny, while we're all aghast at the plagiarism, to see that about 80 people made the same comment about Kenley's having NO friends.


I adored seeing Tim on the tandem bike with Leanne!! That was fun idea.


This is for anon. 1:25 and 1:32 pm. Get off the cross, we need the wood!


Anonymous said...
In Season 1, half of Kara Saun's final collection was straight out of Gucci. In Season 3, Jeffrey's haute couture look was an Alexander McQueen dress in yellow plaid. In Season 4, Rami went to the museum, saw a sculpture of a woman wearing a toga drapey thing and then went and made an identical toga drapey thing. We all know about Christian's "homage" to A. McQueen (he must be an easy target).

I also find it funny, while we're all aghast at the plagiarism, to see that about 80 people made the same comment about Kenley's having NO friends.

1:32 PM

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If so, then you're 81.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

What I want to know is if Tim referenced McQueen AT ALL during home visit. If he didn't, he has to answer for that, in my book.

Moving beyond the McQueen or not McQueen debate:

When Tim visited Kenley and asked about the rope accent on one of her dresses, he asked if it had ever crossed her mind that it might read 'hanging party' rather than 'unconvetional materials'.

Her answer: flat-out "No."

That is what really gets my knickers in a twist about Kenley's designs. She does not seem to have the lexicon nor vision to add something beyond the tired old 40's & 50's inspiration. Hence, why she has to copy other designers to make her looks seem modern.

Shit, darlings. Now I'm all worried about a Kenley win.

Yeah, yeah, lighten up it's just fashion, but even though I didn't like PPS last season, at least I could respect his work and know he's likely to grow and change over time. Kenley - not so much.

If there is a Kenley win, St. Tim better spill it about what arguements were made to justify it, 'cause I don't see them. Yeah, bitch can sew, but can she DESIGN?


When Tim visited Kenley and asked about the rope accent on one of her dresses, he asked if it had ever crossed her mind that it might read 'hanging party' rather than 'unconvetional materials'.

Her answer: flat-out "No."

That is what really gets my knickers in a twist about Kenley's designs. She does not seem to have the lexicon nor vision to add something beyond the tired old 40's & 50's inspiration. Hence, why she has to copy other designers to make her looks seem modern.


Because of course, since Tim said it reminded him of a hanging party, NO ONE could possibly see them as unconventional materials.

Tim really is not the infallible fashion guru you all think it is.


I don't know - I thought Kenley's dress would be breathtaking on the right bride. The bridesmaids dress was not so wedding influenced that you couldn't wear it again.

As to influence and derivation - I mean it is all to fit the human body, and there are only so many silhouettes that are possible, and only so many types of material. How does a designer create a signature look without ripping off some other designer/era?


I am so glad I didn't watch this. Now I don't have to. Or the finale.

Producer interference? Annoying, but I can probably live with it. Rewarding someone for stealing another designer's work? You've lost all credibility.

Go Lifetime!


I'll give her that she has good construction chops. But the McQueen ripoff following rips or riffs on just about every designer showing on Style.com these days makes her a talented copyist, not a talented designer.

But she does have good construction chops.


Anonymous said...

This is for anon. 1:25 and 1:32 pm. Get off the cross, we need the wood!


OHMYGOD I can't stop laughing. That was so funny.


Funny, I did just Google "swan lake Odette" (Odette is the female lead) and didn't see anything like Kenley's or McQueen's dresses. You wouldn't put a prima ballerina in a dress encrusted with feathers; they wouldn't stand up to the repeated wearings of daily performances. Feathers are used sparingly in head pieces; I didn't even see any used as trim. The silhouette has that ballerina thing going for it, of course, but other than that, not so much.

I think Kenley gets away with "inspired" here, because she really upped the tulle (she is Ultima Tulle, after all) and that made the dress "bridal" as opposed to just "wow". I do want to argue that the construction wasn't that great; she made her model seem thick-waisted, especially in comparison to how McQueen's models looked.

I will be disappointed but not surprised if Kenley wins the whole thing.


Agree with TLo - cute but the cutest dress ever???

--- I posted this link on the Jerrell post comment - but ....

THIS ONE - looks like several of Kenley's in shape and asymmetry
http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/alexander-mcqueen-feather-wedding-dress3.jpg

I think this was the one others referred to as being like Balenciaga.

And Anon-All you bitches need to back the hell off. Come on Kenley - own your postings!


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

Anon 1:42 said:
"Tim really is not the infallible fashion guru you all think it is."

I believe you intentionally miss my point.

My point is that Kenley doesn't have the vision to truly design beyond what she likes or in her own words, "what's cool". She does not have the self-analysis to think what others might read in her clothes, nor does she seek out a different opinion.

And no, Tim is not infallible.....


TLO said:

" . . .we can't help thinking this is just a bit MUch."

I think if you take out the M and the U, you're dead on.


Esther


Ug. So much for a just world. "Rip off a designer - WE REWARD YOU!" "Be a total bitch? IT MEANS YOU'RE STRONG AT HEART. WE REWARD YOU!"
Someone give me a barf bag. Well, karma is a bitch right? I still say: good luck to Kenley ever finding a business backer who will take a risk on her with her flightiness and defensive attitude. Girl needs some serious therapy.


Please get Christian Siriano on the phone, because if you want to discuss plagiarism, we should talk to a true copycat:
Christian Siriano Spring 2009 Collection
http://images.nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2009/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/christiansiriano/images/24.jpg

Lanvin Fall 2008 Collection
http://www.style.com/slideshows/fashionshows/F2008RTW/LANVIN/RUNWAY/00290m.jpg

I've gone on record as believing that I think that both Kenley and McQueen were inspired by Swan Lake, versus Kenley copying McQueen, but, for the sake of argument, if I thought Kenley had copied from McQueen, she still put a heckuva lot more energy into Kenley-izing it than what Christian did to his Lanvin derivative. I may have missed it, but I don't recall Christian getting called out for his same s###, different challenge pattern, a la Rami, Laura and Uli; nor do I recall him being called out for his derivative designs a la Kara Saun, Alexandra and Kenley. [Nina hand wave] Psshhh!

Although, for the record, I like what Young Turks Christian and Kenley did better than what Lanvin and McQueen did respectively.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola said...
PS: Shannone rocks - when are you boys getting an interview?

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Great idea, Lola!

Maybe Mommy and Daddy can hook us up, if we behave.

PS. Ditch the name, it sounds too FRENCH!!


I'm no fan of Kenley, but she has worn feathers in EVERY EPISODE, and used them in styling in at least 2 challenges - Drag Queen and makeover.

I love Jerrell, but his dress was unflattering. Kenley's was really beautiful. Leanne's dress was breathtaking. Korto's was... hmmm. Unique??


Tim didn't visit Christian's friends on-screen during his season. He didn't visit Uli's friends during her season, or Daniel V's friends during his season. Doesn't mean a thing.


ask said...
And Anon-All you bitches need to back the hell off. Come on Kenley - own your postings!



LOL. Love it, Ask!


GothamTomato said...
You know, I'm supposed to be attoning for my sins today...


Just be glad that you don't have to wear Keds today to make up for the Manolos or Louboutins you probably bought! ;^)


Mean Girl, PPS, Tchaikovsky...

They all copied a BIRD.


Anonymous said...
All you bitches need to back the hell off. Kenley is not a terrible person. She runs off her mouth but she was cornered by those three and I don't blame her for the way she reacted.


OK, anon. You've been posting multiple times on this thread in support of Kenley. We get it, she has one anon fan. Kenley is not popular here. DEAL WITH IT and move on. You can stop obsessing and go back to your life now. Whatever that is.


I really liked Kenley's wedding dress until I saw the McQueen original. Wow.

And the bridesmaid's dress was well made and cute and fitted nice, but I've seen illusion netting and bubble skirts before. I still do not understand the fuss about this frock.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola

To prfanalapenn:

Sweetie, my screen name may be too French for you, but trust me, my given one is even more so.

Not that y'all will ever know, because if my boss ever found out how much time I spent on here, I'd lose my job for sure. And nobody wants to be unemployed in this financial crisis....

Speaking of, I'm punching out for the day. Have a great debate!


I think we can agree. For all the literalists that don't understand the concept of 'inspired by':

No one is saying that Kenley and McQueens designs are tutus or direct copies of tutus or ballerina costumes of any kind. I haven't read one persons comment that has said that.

Both dresses are clearly 'inspired by' Swan Lake designs. That is not saying they ARE Swan Lake designs.

When I google Swan Lake and look at all the tutus are they the same as Kenleys and McQueen's designs? No? Can you see the 'inspiration'? Of course. I can't understand how that could even be disputed.


anonymous said:

Because of course, since Tim said it reminded him of a hanging party, NO ONE could possibly see them as unconventional materials.

Tim really is not the infallible fashion guru you all think it is.


Of course ropes can be seens as unconventional materials and there are many ways that she could have used them as such. But to wrap a bunch of ropes around the neck of a dress and NOT realize that most people are going to think noose seems like a failure to see things from other people's perspective. Of course, I think that this is Kenley's major problem in both fashion and life. She's not a bad person, but she has a tin ear when it comes to actually listening to the world around her.


Then again, maybe she was inspired by this.

--GothamTomato

1:02 PM
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That is exactly the first thing that came to mind. And last year when Christian sent the feathers...

SisterZip


OK, anon. You've been posting multiple times on this thread in support of Kenley. We get it, she has one anon fan. Kenley is not popular here. DEAL WITH IT and move on. You can stop obsessing and go back to your life now. Whatever that is.



That's not the way it is. I enjoy her designs.


The little hat-thingy she put on Tapacio is damn cute.


That christian dress is a ripoff of Lanvin. wth? The dresses have completely different feels and sillhuoettes. They bear some resemblance but there's only so many ways to create dresses.

You are bound to find similarities in any dress creation to previous dress creations. I really doubt Christian looked at lanvin fall 08 and decided to copy.

This piece makes sense in his collection and the idea isn't audacious enough to think he didn't come up with this idea organically.

Kenley's dress is much much much closer to McQueen's. However, i will defend Kenley and say it looks like her style. If she sent something down the runway that wasn't her, that would have been a bigger problem


from a bitchy gay perspective

Boo hoo, I miss that tag line!


GothamTomato said...
On the positive side, she did finally learn to take advice from Tim. This is how the dress looked before Tim suggested she change the color. (Tim looks so different in a sweater, doesn't he?)

--GothamTomato
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You're killing me today! LOL!

SisterZip


Well I dislike Mean Girl as much as anyone, but she did have a couple of good garments on the runway. The bridesmaid look was smart (but I wonder how it would look in a more conventional length) and the color was very appealing to my taste.

I don't care for Kenley's wedding gown. But honestly, just about every wearable silhouette has been done before. White feathers and tulle are nothing new in bridal looks (well perhaps the quantity is unusual) so is it a copy? I don't think so, not any more than McQueen ripped off that old Björk gown.

And BTW, for a celebrity looking for publicity, who can recall another outfit (sans wardrobe malfunction) which was talked about more? The swan gown may have been hideous and unflattering, but did it ever get Björk a lot of press!


on my tv, the blue of the bridesmaid dress looked much worse - a sort of terrifying 80s electric blue. the color here is less nauseating. i still don't like it. it looks like the model's boobs are strapped down, struggling to breathe. and it's way too short, and i don't like the meshy stuff at the top.

it's a little shocking to me HOW similar Kenley's wedding dress is to the McQueen dresses - even the color is a dead-on match!


on the other hand, i felt a slight, very slight, twinge of pity when Tim visited Kenley, and she had no family or friends or anyone to introduce him to. just a photo of her dead grandma.


PRfanalaPenn said...
Mean Girl, PPS, Tchaikovsky...

They all copied a BIRD.

1:56 PM
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LMMFAO!

SisterZip


Chillout said:

"OK, anon. You've been posting multiple times on this thread in support of Kenley. We get it, she has one anon fan. Kenley is not popular here. DEAL WITH IT and move on. You can stop obsessing and go back to your life now. Whatever that is."


I suggest YOU need to chillout. And please don't speak for me. I would never be as rude or as childish as to make such a purile statement. You sound just like her.

It's a gameshow. If it gets you so riled up that you need to vent like that, I suggest YOU need a life.


A lot of anonymous cowards (or is it one) sniping on behalf of Kenley...or is that you, Kenley?

At any rate, I thought the bridal dress lovely and the bridesmaid dress very cute. The bridal dress was clearly inspired by McQueen and it would have been nice for Kenley to admit that. Christian never hid his fashion inspirations, but she never admits them. Shows her insecurity.


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Yeah, even the headpiece was too McQueeny for me. Bridesmaid dress was just okay. However, the rest of her BP collection, to my non- designer eye, lacked cohesion. How may times during the competition did we see the tight sausage dress or the full skirted 50s flounce? Nothing new. That said, while Leeanne's noodles/ petals/waves are familiar to us who have seen 'em every week, they must have looked fresh to someone seeing them for the 1st time at BP.


A lot of dim-bulbs in here today that think because they call themselves "Lou" they are somehow not anonymous.


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola said...

Anon 1:42 said:
"Tim really is not the infallible fashion guru you all think it is."

I believe you intentionally miss my point.

My point is that Kenley doesn't have the vision to truly design beyond what she likes or in her own words, "what's cool". She does not have the self-analysis to think what others might read in her clothes, nor does she seek out a different opinion.


I did miss your point, but not intentionally. Still, how is it a bad thing that she designs what SHE LIKES and thinks is 'cool'? Isn't that what ALL designers do? LOL. If not, everything would look the same. Yes there's a need to adjust things for buyers (and cooperation is clearly something she needs to work on), but she's selling herself, and she needs to trust her instincts. Quite frankly, I wouldn't listen to a lot of Tim's suggestions either. I admire someone like Kenley who makes it to the end doing mostly her own thing than someone like Sweet P or Suede who barely eke by because they're so eager to ditch their own ideas for Tim's. And funny, which of the 3 designers I just mentioned made it to the end?

The one who sold herself and not Tim.


Inspired by the McQueen dresses and, for added unoriginality, also ripping off the wedding dress shape from "Funny Face."


I'm one of the anons who has posted a couple times in support of Kenley. There were many others that were not for me. But OF COURSE Kenley can only possibly have one fan, because you're all enamored of the tacky homo, right? Ugh, and you think I'M pathetic. Please.


Anonymous said: "All you bitches need to back the hell off."

Everyone here will take this as the biggest compliment of the day!

I just love it when relatives try to jump into the fray.


another laura said...
Agree, TLo, mostly, on these dresses.

But that for a bridesmaid's dress was wayyyy too short. Color pretty, concept fine, but how would it look knee-length? I'm not so sure.

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Definitely! If I picked a bridesmaid dress like that, my Nana would faint. Too short for church :)


I don't think Kenley is Wendy Pepper Evil (TM) I just think she's really self-centered. What's weird is that I find her self-centered ways MUCH more irritating than I found Wendy. Perhaps because I could write Wendy off as a villain, whereas I keep TRYING to like Kenley, but she's so bratty that I just can't.

I disagree that wedding and bridesmaid dresses look like they're from different weddings. I hate it when the bride is too matchy-matchy with her attendees. Similar silhouettes with different colors and materials works well, imho. She also maid the bridesmaid dress cute without it taking away from the drama of the wedding dress. It was awfully short, but I think you can maybe get away with it since bridesmaids usually stand through the whole ceremony. They'd just need to change before the reception.

I really liked the wedding dress until I saw the McQueen version. Not something normal people could wear, but I could picture Dita Von Teese working the shit out of it should she ever get married again.


My jaw dropped, at Micheal's baffling praise of Kenley's dress! So absurdly short for its volume, it looked like a tutu.


Personally I really liked this look from Kenley. I didn't like the rest of the collection but that is another story.

I think the look is the two McQueen looks put together, but feel there is more of a 40's, 50's twist to it, I think it is the tulle mainly.

I can actually see the two dresses in the same wedding. They match in the basic look, tight at top, big poof on the bottom. Although, it could have been longer and it didn't really go with the rest of the collection.

While the judges clearly liked it, I don't think it "won" over Leanne's which I thought was stunning. Compared to the bottom two, I thought that Kenley did deserve to go to Bryant Park, just based on the two dresses presented to the judges.


I have to say that Shannone is fierce! The dresses were SO pretty and cute compared to Jerrell's hot messes. Which is such a shame.
Hooray for an all-female final 3! Wooo!


C'est moi, c'est moi Lola said...When Tim visited Kenley and asked about the rope accent on one of her dresses, he asked if it had ever crossed her mind that it might read 'hanging party' rather than 'unconvetional materials'.

Her answer: flat-out "No."

That is what really gets my knickers in a twist about Kenley's designs. She does not seem to have the lexicon nor vision to add something beyond the tired old 40's & 50's inspiration. Hence, why she has to copy other designers to make her looks seem modern. 1:38 PM


Help me out here. If Tim sees a rope and hanging party comes to his mind (a use of ropes for centuries), and Kenley sees rope and an accent for a dress comes to her mind, does that not show that Kenley is capable of "vision," "creativity," and "design"? To be sure, someone has used rope in design before, but once folks gets over their tugboat gigglefest, perhaps they can recognize that this is a source of true and organic inspiration for Kenley.


I don't have a problem with the inspired by McQueen. Personally, I think her dress improved imensely on the McQueen dresses.

I am bothered that she had the effrontery to state that her sillhouette was entirely unique, but in a different venue, comment on another designer's McQueen influence.


"anon said: Quite frankly, I wouldn't listen to a lot of Tim's suggestions either."



A lot of the designers don't listen to everything Tim says. You, like Kenley, miss the point. It was the way she behaved towards Tim that people found objectionable.

She was rude and dismissive of him, and to him, in a way that was completely uncalled for. Like him or not, agree with him or not, share the same taste with him or not; doesn't matter. He is there to help, and he does not deserve to be treated in such a dismissive manner by anyone.

--GothamTomato


Anonymous said...
I'm one of the anons who has posted a couple times in support of Kenley. There were many others that were not for me. But OF COURSE Kenley can only possibly have one fan, because you're all enamored of the tacky homo, right? Ugh, and you think I'M pathetic. Please.

2:23 PM
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You forgot your standard Korto bashing.

Or is that coming next post?


Anonymous said...
I'm one of the anons who has posted a couple times in support of Kenley. There were many others that were not for me. But OF COURSE Kenley can only possibly have one fan, because you're all enamored of the tacky homo, right? Ugh, and you think I'M pathetic. Please.


Yep, you confirmed how pathetic you are with your "tacky homo" comment. Please, gay hater, you can leave now. No one wants you here. Go.


getoverit said...
Anonymous said...
I'm one of the anons who has posted a couple times in support of Kenley. There were many others that were not for me. But OF COURSE Kenley can only possibly have one fan, because you're all enamored of the tacky homo, right? Ugh, and you think I'M pathetic. Please.

Yep, you confirmed how pathetic you are with your "tacky homo" comment. Please, gay hater, you can leave now. No one wants you here. Go.

2:45 PM
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getoverit,

Let them keep talking. They're not fooling anyone.

Some people thrive on negative attention, like...Kenley!


"Pretending like she should have been aufed for using feathers is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, and not of her supposed 'influences' have a monopoly on any of the materials or silhouettes in question here."

i don't think anyone has suggested that she should have been aufed for using feathers -- the issue is how much the dress looks like the mc queen...

what really offends me about kenley is that while she denies being "influenced" or copying the mc queen, (i still think she probably got the idea of using feathers from christian's feather dress last season)she accused (in a huff)korto & leanne of "ripping her off" by doing short bridesmaids dresses. sorry, kenley - you didn't invent that concept either....


Womyn2me at aol dot com

Bridesmaid model: why are her boobs sitting at her waist?


Hey "bill"

Wev. at least you can address me by name instead of anonymous 10:35.


I wonder if Tim noted any similarity to the McQueen dress when he visited with her (if in fact she'd already finished it)? And nobody has mentioned it, but I hate the shoes Kenley picked.


Kenley has been plagerizing the 40s and 50s all along, so why not nip something from the 2000s?


she just won a spot at bryant park ladies! of course she's going to jump up and down and be happy. AND, last week she practically got jumped on the runway AND backstage by korto. it's time to push aside your jealousy and hate and admit that the girl knows how to slow clothes that women want to wear. enough with the kenley hate. it's old and tired.


I'm interested to know what the reaction was in the tents when Kenley's bridal gown came out. Were there whispers that she'd copied McQueen's dress?


I'm just waiting for the moment when Kenley says that McQueen copied HER.


I'm anonymous - but I haven't posted yet..today anyway.

I love TLo's post and agree with them - but I'm at the point now where I wish Bravo just aired a two hour special and showed the fashion show last night as well.

Fashion week is over and, as much as I am a huge fan of the show, I'm over it all too.

I call Jerrel's collection "the kitchen sink" collection - for obvious reasons. I kept looking at his bride's headpiece and thinking about those headbands with the springy antennas (for costumes like a bumblebee) on them that bop around when you move your head.

I would give anything to have Tim Gunn come to my home and hang out with me. He wouldn't have to meet my friends or family - I wouldn't want to share him anyway!


getoverit said...

Anonymous said...
I'm one of the anons who has posted a couple times in support of Kenley. There were many others that were not for me. But OF COURSE Kenley can only possibly have one fan, because you're all enamored of the tacky homo, right? Ugh, and you think I'M pathetic. Please.

Yep, you confirmed how pathetic you are with your "tacky homo" comment. Please, gay hater, you can leave now. No one wants you here. Go.


Actually, I'm not a gay hater. I AM gay. It just kinda makes me sick when straight housewives drool all over any walking minstrel show that can snap its fingers and make a bitchy comment like it's just all so hilaaaaaaaaaaarious and fabulous. Barf.


Anonymous said...
Actually, I'm not a gay hater. I AM gay. It just kinda makes me sick when straight housewives drool all over any walking minstrel show that can snap its fingers and make a bitchy comment like it's just all so hilaaaaaaaaaaarious and fabulous. Barf.
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And here it is...
3:21 PM


Y'all are haters. Kenley could have sent the most gorgeous gown on the face of the planet down that runway and you'd still be saying she deserved to be auf'd. I love both of these dresses, and while there is an obvious play to McQueen - I prefer hers to his. She didn't rip him off, she built on top of him. Stop judging the personalities and start judging the dresses. Kenley deserved her spot. That being said - weakest final three ever.


Damn, Shannone can walk. The dress was cute, but Shannone in the dress was the cutest thing ever.

In Kenley's defense, her dress reminded me of of the three-quarter wedding dress of Audrey Hepburn's in Funny Face. That and Swan Lake gone madly over-the-top.

So, I don't see a direct copy of McQueen here because there's an earlier point of inspiration/ripping off/homage for both of them. This was consistent with Kenley's aesthetic.

McQueen's was a lot more daring--to me what stood out wasn't the puff, but the diagonal hem.

So, not tres original from Kenley, but I'll give it a pass.


Always a fan of the spirited discussions here. I haven't been watching, but following the last few eps here, so haven’t built up Kenley frenzy yet.

I did want to comment on the comparison to Marla's "inspiration" for Nikki Hilton. The issue with Marla is that she copied the dress that was presented to the designers as a sample of what Nikki was looking for in her line. Christian, Kenley and others at least had to remember what they were using as an inspiration.


Wow 3:21. Did you just say that? How low.


Actually, I'm not a gay hater. I AM gay. It just kinda makes me sick when straight housewives drool all over any walking minstrel show

Okay, so you've used "tacky homo" and drooling straight housewives and "walking minstrel show."

You are way more offensive than any comment made about Kenley on this entire board that holds her accountable for her rude, dismissive behavior. Several of us STRAIGHT HOUSEWIVES have stated in the past that she has talent, a strong design point of view, but can't help but point out that her behavior will someday be her own undoing.


PRfanalaPenn said...

Anonymous said...
Actually, I'm not a gay hater. I AM gay. It just kinda makes me sick when straight housewives drool all over any walking minstrel show that can snap its fingers and make a bitchy comment like it's just all so hilaaaaaaaaaaarious and fabulous. Barf.
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And here it is...


I'm gay too and I agree with him. "Normal" gay guys are completely ignored in favor of dudes who act flamboyantly for attention. Not every gay guy is limp-wristed or whatever and it can be tiring when that's the only thing you see on TV. Just my opinion.


Jeffrey Bryan said...

Y'all are haters. Kenley could have sent the most gorgeous gown on the face of the planet down that runway and you'd still be saying she deserved to be auf'd.

Has ANYONE said that she should be auf'd for this dress?


I was gobsmacked by the overpraise for Kenley's bridesmaid dress. OK, cute, but not original at all, too short, and the model's breasts looked completely unsupported.


1. okay fine you hate her.

2. did anyone notice who her model was for the blue dress that made her win it? thats right... shannon! any surprise why its so cute and all.

3. while the dress is pretty much the mcqueen dress i do think thanks to mad men its a very popular sillouette and the feather thing is very oscar de la renta (remember when he did for SJP and then did it in black for eva longoria)... the point is:

its not that shes ripping of mcqueen, its that people tend to fall back on THAT style of dress, it just so happens that both mcqueen and kenley did the same thing, did i think she copied him? nope... it fits organically into her collection that i wouldnt even imagine any other kind of wedding gown.


too many cats

So,
Anon 3:31 also goes by the name "Bark".
Who'd have guessed?


That being said - weakest final three ever.

Well, I'll agree with this.
Weakest season ever, too. Though frankly, Leanne is a fabulous and original designer.
I think PR needs the hiatus it's going to get.


SIGH

So sick of the producer manipulations. Kenley didn't deserve to be in the finals at all.

Her wedding dress was a straight up McQueen rip-off. The ONLY thing different was the tulle underneath was longer. That's it.

The judges are on crack. I am despairing for my show. If Kenley wins this season, it will be over for me and PR.

Her bridesmaid dress was ok. NOT the cutest dress I've ever seen. Plus way too short. One stiff breeze and the wedding takes on a whole new perspective.


Shannone remains as fierce as ever in her walk. Good job by her. Nice to see Karalyn back as well. Though her walk was kind of stompy. I feel that her heart just wasn't in it, which is understandable.


Anonymous said...
It just kinda makes me sick when straight housewives drool all over any walking minstrel show that can snap its fingers and make a bitchy comment like it's just all so hilaaaaaaaaaaarious and fabulous.


Then you're going to hate Bravo's new show "The Straight Housewives of Project Rungay."


"walking minstrel show"
wow. So uncool. I think TLO should ban you.


"walking minstrel show"
He's allowed to say that because he's a minstrel.


Tom in KC said: ""The Straight Housewives of Project Rungay."

Hilarious!


Wow. I think our darling Sissy Bear does Kenley not likey. Check out his assessment of the show.

http://fashion.elle.com/blog/2008/10/bridal-wave.html


anon @3:48

Tee hee! I just got a flash of Sir Robin from Monty Python's Holy Grail. Bless you.


Now I know how Bethany on the Real Housewives of New York City felt when she was watching frenemies Jill and Ramona play tennis. She said, "its like a trainwreck but I can't look away." For me, I can't stop hitting the refresh button.


CPK said...

"walking minstrel show"
wow. So uncool. I think TLO should ban you.


Ok, I was gonna let it all go but if people still want to comment on it...I hope you all have some outrage for the posters who constantly call Jerell "she" as well, because that's actually pretty offensive too. FYI, saying it's "in fun" is not a valid defense.


lou said...
Wow. I think our darling Sissy Bear does Kenley not likey. Check out his assessment of the show.

http://fashion.elle.com/blog/2008/10/bridal-wave.html

3:52 PM
**********************************

Wow! I know Sissy Bear can be a bit snarky, but...just wow!

SisterZip


Kenley is rude, obnoxious, and has no self awareness, it's true. But unlike Wendy Pepper, she wasn't trying to hurt others and she wasn't strategizing. I think what she really wants is recognition, I don't even think it's about the win for her. When she won the NY inspiration challenge, she said she was so happy to have someone see her POV and like it. I can definitely relate to that, it is truly vindicating to have people who know what they're doing applaud your work.

I think she has a lot of maturing to do as an artist and as a person, but I don' think she was ever malicous on purpose.


lou said...

Wow. I think our darling Sissy Bear does Kenley not likey. Check out his assessment of the show.

http://fashion.elle.com/blog/2008/10/bridal-wave.html


Lol. This coming from the dude that glued human hair all over his macabre, dated, costumey collection...as if he's in position to judge anyone's design skills.


did the producers and judges get to see the runway collections BEFORE this episode was filmed? Or concurrently?

Because looking at Jerrell's BP collection ... it's a hot mess. Kenley has that GORGEOUS cream dress with the flowers and vines ... I dunno. Maybe they were influenced by that?


bitchybitchybitchy

Kanani said:

That being said - weakest final three ever.

Well, I'll agree with this.
Weakest season ever, too. Though frankly, Leanne is a fabulous and original designer.
I think PR needs the hiatus it's going to get.

PR does need a break. There's been very little real "fabulous" walking down the runway this season.

I hope Leanne gets the win, so at least this season will end on an up note.


another laura

FWIW (not much), I have a lot of sympathy toward the feelings expressed by bailey and anons 3:21 and 3:59.

But we're not the language police and what the heck, it's fashion and a blog about a reality TV show.

Okay, I really got to get back to work, bye for now.

Really. bye.


Kenley all the way for the win.


Kenley is the most talented designer on the show. Even her outfits that she wears for the judging panel are fabulous! I'll be her first customer.


Mark from NYC

Here's the deal with Kenley. She's a narcissist -- plain and simple. She sees anything other than praise as persecution. She is better than anyone else. If you offer an alternative view, it's because you hate her, or don't get her, not that you have a valid, if different, viewpoint. She laughs at herself, admires herself, praises herself, sees you and your work only in terms of herself... She's sick, people. It's a mental condition, and boy oh boy has she got it bad.

That's why I'll bet she doesn't even know she stole the McQueen dress. She thinks that he did HER thing, and that she invented feathers and pouf skirts so, you know what, she has every right to steal it back from him and make it her own. Narcissism is its own self-justification system.

That said, the bridesmaid dress was TDF. She should be in the final three.

Miss J, bless her heart, has lost her way. That collection looked like a florists window display form the 80s -- right after everyone discovered wired French ribbon. Very done and done, and not revived in an interesting way, just warmed over.

My bet is that Miss J lost based on the strength of his overall collection, and that's why Kenley and Korto won as well.

Even more interesting: Kenley's grandmother! She's made herself over into her grandmother! 40s era hairstyle and fashion sense. I'm guessing the founding narcissist of the Collins clan is Grandma, who loved and warped Miss Kenley into the self-centered, serious talent she is today.

She, of all PR contestants, has the greatest chance of commercial success, because it is truly all about her -- and she'll make it work come hell, high water, professional ethics, or other human beings.


Sigh....
I love a bitchy gay perspective - but i don't enjoy some of this nastiness.

To deconstruct - I think what is the worst part of all this is that, in fact, Jerrell's dress needed some editing and refinement. Same for Koto.

As immature and mean spirited as Kenley is, the girl can sew. In the end, the producers got what they wanted. "Neatness"

Jerell should never have had to compete for a spot - it should have been his.

I can't help but think that the magical elves wanted to kill this show for Lifetime - never dreaming that in the end, they would get an injunction, much less a chance at the show. (Don't forget, the injunction came after the filming).

For Shame, for Shame.


Anonymous said...

Kenley all the way for the win.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kenley is the most talented designer on the show. Even her outfits that she wears for the judging panel are fabulous! I'll be her first customer.



Good lord, take a break, anonymous. Don't you have to pee or something?


Let's face it, if the producers ever wanted to stick a "villain" in their final show on Bravo in the final three, this would be their "Swan Song", right?
(No pun intended regarding Kenley's Swan Lake/McQueen creation..hee hee). We've seen the likes of Wendy Pepper, Santino and Jeffrey, so why not add someone this season who everyone seems to "love to hate or hate to love", in the immortal words of Santino?
Regarding Kenley's wedding gown, it's well constructed and quite beautiful in it's apian way, but to me, clearly much too similar to McQueen's gown to be a true "original".
The bridesmaid dress was cute, and fortunately for Kenley, modeled by one of the best models of this season.


Here's Chris March's comment:

"Then, there is the Kenley controversy: Did she or didn't she totally steal an idea from Alexander McQueen? Well, she did folks.

Looks like little Kenley tried to make a $100,000 dollar couture dress on her $1000 budget. A less-structured bodice, piles of cheap tulle instead of a complicated understructure, and instead of handsewn individual feathers, hot-glued-on patches of chicken hackles. Et voila! An Alexander McKenley original! Not original, and not a good idea to parade this sadly executed carbon copy in front of the fashion world. Good luck getting a job in the industry, sweetheart. "



OUCH!


Oh there's more:


"Kenley continued with her lack-of-originality theme by blatantly knocking off a Balenciaga dress. It was actually cute. Why shouldn't it be? Real professionals designed it. And then, what do we see over in the corner? Leanne making a seriously beautiful dress that fits perfectly with her wedding dress and her entire "wave"-inspired collection. In the same amount of time, with the same amount of money. This is what we call "design.""


http://fashion.elle.com/blog/2008/10/bridal-wave.html


Bailey said...


And here it is...

I'm gay too and I agree with him. "Normal" gay guys are completely ignored in favor of dudes who act flamboyantly for attention. Not every gay guy is limp-wristed or whatever and it can be tiring when that's the only thing you see on TV. Just my opinion.



Come now Bailey, I can't believe that someone as opinionated as you ever goes ignored. And if you are, you shouldn't be.


Anonymous said...

lou said...
Wow. I think our darling Sissy Bear does Kenley not likey. Check out his assessment of the show.

http://fashion.elle.com/blog/2008/10/bridal-wave.html

3:52 PM
**********************************

Wow! I know Sissy Bear can be a bit snarky, but...just wow!

SisterZip




Sissy Bear can be right down nasty.

Trust me on that one.


chc...

yes, thankfully chris march never copied anyone's design...like, oh, say, his avante-garde dress rehash for the final art challenge.

perhaps he should have copied some ideas for his final collection, because it was about 20 times uglier than even suede's was this year.


Anonymous said...

chc...

yes, thankfully chris march never copied anyone's design...like, oh, say, his avante-garde dress rehash for the final art challenge.

perhaps he should have copied some ideas for his final collection, because it was about 20 times uglier than even suede's was this year.




I think you should let people disagree with you a little bit. You don't have to reply to every single post against Kenley's designs or attitude you know.


PRInsider said...

Anonymous said...

lou said...
Wow. I think our darling Sissy Bear does Kenley not likey. Check out his assessment of the show.

http://fashion.elle.com/blog/2008/10/bridal-wave.html

3:52 PM
**********************************

Wow! I know Sissy Bear can be a bit snarky, but...just wow!

SisterZip



Sissy Bear can be right down nasty.

Trust me on that one.


Oooh, do tell! At least one story! PLEASE! I love some good dish.


I'd be flexible enough to think she was "inspired" if she hadn't done the exact hair piece as well . . . come on! Give me a bloody break! (I actually think the dress is wonderful, except I think the final kiss would have to be on the hand or else the groom moving in would cause the skirt to pop up in the back and give at least half the guests a moon shot)

And any woman who had a wedding dress that over the top would have had much more sophisticated friends to have as bridesmaids. And this so-called "bridesmaid dress" was more of a flower girls dress in length and attitude.

- Donna in Seattle


edina monsoon

marc from nyc ---

"That's why I'll bet she doesn't even know she stole the McQueen dress. She thinks that he did HER thing, and that she invented feathers and pouf skirts so, you know what, she has every right to steal it back from him and make it her own. Narcissism is its own self-justification system."

Loved your critique and analysis, marc! I tend to agree with (almost) every word in your post and have had many of the same thoughts over this past season. Loooved the "grandma analysis," most of all.

However, and there's always one ---I did not find the b-maid dress TDF. It looks like so many garments we've seen come down the PR runway and many, many others over the past 4-6 seasons. I'm sorry, but I am so over the color and the silhouette. And I just don't think the b-maid dress was a wise choice for Kenley's bridal dress. Sure, it's cute and fun and all, but I saw no relation whatsoever between the two and I cannot accept that it was intentional on her part.

Anyway, again, loved your post and would meet you for coffee any day to pick your brain and "analyze" PR designers any day of the week.

- edina -


chc that was my first post today. i think you must have me confused with someone else?


I do think that Chris's opinion could very easily veer over into sour grapes territory...


Mark from nyc:
(at 4:13)

Your comment was completely innapropriate. You concluded from this episode that not only does Kenley have a mental condition, but that her grandmother who had just passed away, is responsible for it?

Where do you get off making such absurd judgments on people? Ridiculous. You can hate the dresses but that's no reason to judge her as a human being. Your just making yourself look bad.


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