This was Korto's biggest mis-step of the season (actually, her only mis-step of the season).

The top half looked like a pair of gladiator sandals, and the bottom, like Austin's Grammy dress - the dress that kept him out of the finals, so I was worried for a few minutes there.

I'm just glad gthere were much worse because she (along with Judy Noodles) deserved to be in the finals. They have been consistantly head & shoullder above everyone else in the pack all season long.

So I can forgive her this one brain fart.

--GothamTomato

My Mom had a nightgown and jacket very simialr to Korto's dress back in the late 60's.

Joe and Daniel looked like they picked the dress up at Cinnabon.

It's weird how much more of Daniel came through on that than Joe. I guess he wanted to redeem himself.

Seems like Daniel might not have gone home had he made that dress for his drag queen.

Bill, you beat me to it! I was just about to post that Joe's looked like a dessert that I can't think of the name of-- where you pile up little cream puffs and drizzle honey over them.

But Cinnabon will work too (in fact, I have to get to a Cinnabon & try that one!)

--GothamTomato

Interesting how different Daniel seemed. I guess he was always so stressed & nervous, waiting to be eliminated, and once he was eliminated, he could relax. (Or maybe he'd just spent the night with Wesley & that relaxed him). Either way, he was back to being charming.

--GothamTomato

Agree about this being the dress Daniel should have made for Anita Greencard.

I loved the colors Korto used, but the design fell flat as you said. This wasn't as bad as her inside-out dress in the green challenge, but not by much.

I didn't like Korto's at all. I thought it looked boring and easy. I couldn't understand why it had to be pinned for the "party". Because it looks like a 2-hour dress. It isn't horrible comparatively, just mediocre. That might be worse when talking about avant-garde though. She was running on empty for sure this week.

I like Daniel and Joe's entry and I am glad that Daniel was able to redeem himself. All the designers that came back seemed to do a very admirable job of working with their teammates (save for Keith) and you have to admit all of them had to have been terribly disappointed and somewhat humiliated by their exits. Bravo for the good sportsmanship!

I like Korto design the best but I agree it was not avart garde. Then non of the designs were!

TLO said..The only real problem we had with the design (aside from its mediocrity) was the bodice. It sits too low and the bustline is uneven. Plus, we're not really getting the point of the "ripped open" effect.

She's a ram and she ripped it open with her hard, hard, horny breasts!... maybe?

1. Brian: Daniel was definitely the leader of this team (as Tim Gunn says) and actually it comes as no surprise. Joe strikes me as a good tailor and a mediocre designer. His best when following the instruction of others, whether it be Daniel or Varla Jean.
2. GothamTomato: I'd say this was Korto's second mis-step. Don't you remember the shark fins that landed her in the bottom 3 on the second challenge. Also: while I absolutely agree that Korto deserved to make it to BP, I think her problem has always been that her work, while usually elegant and chic, tends to be a bit too "classical". It comes as no surprise then that the Avant-Garde challenge is not really her cup of tea. (BTW I think her classical style resulted in a nice, but somewhat underwhelming, BP runway show. I know that this is not the consensus of the readers of Project Runway - but screw consensus.)

I kinda liked Korto's. But maybe that's just my never-dying love for her? Anyway, it was more "Aquarius" than Kenley's. ANd she sort of looks like Ren Woods, so, that tickled me.

Pfft, this is boring, let's talk about how JLo completed a Triathlon on her alleged "injured" foot!

I am so over this challenge I can barely muster to energy to post about these lackluster garments. Blah, blah, blah, bla...zzzzzzzzz...

Does anyone else see the face of Andy Cohen toward the bottom Korto's dress, in the first picture of the back of it??

Oh, yes - once we're done ripping the dresses from this challenge - we MUST rip into JLo's "injury."

Nancy - good eyes - deffinitely looks like a face there, although it looks more like an old FBI wanted poster mugshot to me than Andy Cohen.

Fire and Water.

Fire: lukewarm. I wish Daniel had found his groove while he was still in the competition. I daresay he would have put on a better Bryant Park show than Suede or Joe.

Water: drowning in boredom. Blah.

I liked how the farbic looked like fire for a moment on his little jacket.
Korto was ok...thats all...

I tuned in late to this episode... way late and didn't realize it was an avant garde challenge. All of it came off as very costume-like.

Which makes me wonder if these designers are familiar with art and design history at all? They should go over the stuff Pierre Cardin and Paco Rabanne did in the 1960's.

this is the third time that someone on project runway has used that purple and blue fabric. You'd think Mood would have changed stock a bit since season 2.

That's not the same fabric.

"thenycourier said: Pfft, this is boring, let's talk about how JLo completed a Triathlon on her alleged "injured" foot!"




A friend who knows, told me that JLo is well known for just not showing for events, leaving people in the lurch. But in this case, she did us all a big favor. Who would you rather see judging the final collections, Jlo or Tim?

Seriously.

--GothamTomato

Oh, it's no question! I'm happy Tim is finally judging.

I just think she's a bitch now. More so than before.

Pfft, this is boring, let's talk about how JLo completed a Triathlon on her alleged "injured" foot!

Oh, let's not give JLo more time than she deserves. She was a blip that came and went, as far as I was concerned, and Tim Gunn finally got to take his rightful place as a judge!

Brian said...
It's weird how much more of Daniel came through on that than Joe.

Very true, Brian. I wondered if Joe sort of laid out on this challenge, apart from picking that execrable fabric. It does seem to express the "aristocratic Spanish style" that Daniel claims to have.

As for Korto: meh. The screencaps sure make it look QuasiMODE, but in motion, the back looked dramatic and flow-y. Not avant-garde, but not bad.

Looking back at Korto's work, i take away the "what did she ever do that i liked." I always like her as a person she is on TV because she reacts at stuff the same way i do, i just dont really like puffy clothing :o

Korto's: Judy Noodles does a Jane Austen production. I don't know if Korto purposely went down the noodle route to 'out-noodle' Judy Bernly, but that was my take.

Joe's: A morel mushroom with a wonky bustline.

Again, were the objectives of the challenge explained in English, or ancient Sumerian? Did not get 'Avant garde' at all, with the possible exception of Leanne's.

Side note: I'd rather watch Tim give his $0.02 about who should win than some "diva" yakety-yak about how much she does or does not know about fashion.

Wasn't the effect of Korto's "noodles" intended to represent armor?

I was underwhelmed by both of these looks. Joe's looked lik it was all Daniel, and Korto.... it made no sense to me.

Big yawn.

Where's the ram?

Definitely not either's best work.

I actually liked the fabric selections both made (shoot me now), but they both failed to do anything really unique and surprising with what they had.

and damn you, Bill, for invoking Cinnabon! Now I kinda want one.

Was Topacio wearing feathers on her lashes? Joe has consistently managed to style Topacio so poorly, I feel sorry for her. She's lovely, yet her natural beauty has never come through.

Ugh, have never liked purple and turquoise together (Korto)

I think the ram was respresented by a fierce fiery exterior. I like Joe/Daniel's dress very pretty and had some drama. Sadly not avant garde.

Korto's fell flat. Not the worse. Not bad considering she, like JOe, really are not avant garde type designers. I wonder if Kelli had been healthy if the dress would have evolved better into something truly avant garde.

I'm with the others. My enthusiam to recall anything about this episode has fallen-especially with the finale collections already posted. although my roomie made a very insightful comment about Kenley's which i will bring up when that mosntrosity is ripped.

Frank

Bill's Cinnabon comment hit it on the head. Everytime I look at Joe's skirt I get hungry for something sweet.

And Korto'zzzzzzzzzzzz

I have real trouble remembering what else was out there last Wednesday, so take it easy TLo.

I will forever be greatful for having been live at BP through your twittering and being able to view everything at your blog within 24 hours. Outstanding work, darlings, give your thumbs some rest.

None of the designs were avant garde, were they?

Korto's was disappointing because I expected more from her. Of course it wasn't bad enough to get her aufed . . . it just wasn't good enough to be more than safe.

Joe's was a good surprise, because I expected less (though apparently I'm one of the few who thinks Joe has done well on some of the challenges). I thought this was one of the better designs for this challenge -- Cinnabon notwithstanding!!

GothamTomato said, I was just about to post that Joe's looked like a dessert that I can't think of the name of-- where you pile up little cream puffs and drizzle honey over them.

Are you thinking of croquembouche? It's actually glazed with sugar, which gives it a crunch.

Actually, I really liked both of these gowns. . .However, it's been brought up several times that NONE of these looks were avant-garde.

Have we seen anything on PR that is truly avant-garde? I'm not being rhetorical, I really want to know. As a point of comparison . . .

Snooze city on both entries. I was thrown aback by Korto's. I just expected more from her.

As for "No-Show JLo", I hope she is suffering from a severe case of the crabs caught at Malibu Beach. Or saddle sores from her bike. Or a fate worse than death to her: Bunions so painful, she'll never be able to wear another pair of Manolo's. It's called Karma, bitch.

Anonymous Bernd said...

Bill's Cinnabon comment hit it on the head. Everytime I look at Joe's skirt I get hungry for something sweet.



See....I thought the red and white fabric Joe used looked like uncooked bacon, which just kind of grossed me out. Although a bacon dress would be avant garde, I suppose.

Yes Lillithcat, that looks like what I was talking about!

--GothamTomato

Yippee! I see the "face" in Korto's dress.

And I second and third the motion about JLo.
Haven't we had enough of celebrity dress forms (ala wigstands) these past couple seasons?
These ladies dres themselves (more likely, stylists dress them); that doesn't mean they can discuss, less judge fashion.

Joe and Daniel's gown was actually one of my favorites, mostly because it had a lot of Daniel's input. I would have loved to see a full collection from him. But the top is clearly Joe as his final collection clearly showed he loves bustiers!

Korto's has some interesting ideas in it, but is somehow less than the sum of its parts. She doesn't strike me as an avant-garde designer, which is certainly not something to fault her for.

I have just come to dislike Joe's work more and more as the season progresses. Besides the outfit, the styling on this one looks like it was done by someone who was drunk.

I thought Korto's noodles looked like kelp. Fits with the Aquarius/Under the Sea theme but weren't very attractive. And, Nancy, I saw the face when I first looked at that screen capture and thought it looked like Stephen King.

And Joe should thank my poor little Daniel. Left to his own devices, Joe probably would have just put a sock over her head and called it avant garde. I would much rather have seen Daniel in the final 6 than Suede.

I don't see a face! And I've been staring at it, like in that Seinfeld episode.

Rainwood said...

And Joe should thank my poor little Daniel. Left to his own devices, Joe probably would have just put a sock over her head and called it avant garde. I would much rather have seen Daniel in the final 6 than Suede.

No kidding!Daniel, Terri, Kelli, Wesley, Emily, even Jennifer. Any of them could have done better.

hello, i'm patsy stone said...
As for "No-Show JLo", I hope she is suffering from a severe case of the crabs caught at Malibu Beach. Or saddle sores from her bike. Or a fate worse than death to her: Bunions so painful, she'll never be able to wear another pair of Manolo's. It's called Karma, bitch.

Lulz. How about explosive diarrahea?

Brooklyn Bomber said...
I don't see a face! And I've been staring at it, like in that Seinfeld episode.

It's in the 5th picture down. At the bottom center of the shot. 3/4 of a anglular face- hairline, one eye, eyebrow nose and straight mouth. See it?

eyebrow, nose not eyebrow nose.

Daniel should have done that look for Miss Greencard. He would have won the Drag Queen challenge hands down.

Other than the tired bustier, I see no Joe in that look at all.

I know Kelli got sick, but I see her in Korto's outfit and that is probably what ultimately sunk it into mediocracy.

hello, i'm patsy stone said...

Or a fate worse than death to her [JLo]: Bunions so painful, she'll never be able to wear another pair of Manolo's. It's called Karma, bitch.

ROTFLMAO - Sweetie darling, is the zip on our bitch pants a teensey bit too tight today? Mwah - love you, mean it.

Korto - Santino (ombre fabric) crashes into Leanne (noodles); no survivors.

Joe - mushrooms on a tree trunk made of upholstery fabric.

Both; meh.

The face looks like those statues on Easter Island.

Hellene: I think you can say it to a degree you have. The execution isn't always there so it ends up looking ugly. That's the balancing act from either creating a new look or structure but executing it well enough so people can appreciate it. The time constraints of PR make it difficult.

That being said I think what Christian/Chris pull off last year can be considered avant garde. I should say what they did together. Both brought something to the table that while hopelessly impractical look stunning as it came down the runway. Also cudos to marcia for being able to sell it.

To a lesser extent also the punk/equine look of Victorya/Jillian. While what really sold the look was Jillian's execution of the oversized coat. The entire look had a crazy freshness to it.

Austin's wedding dress was an avant garde attempt that failed in terms of execution. Elisa's jersey dress with the tail. That also was a failed concept.

I think the problem really is that the outfits from this episode could be lumped into 2 groups. People that had an avart garde concept but failed to fully or properly execute the idea (Leanne, Korto, Kenley, Blayne, possibly Suede) or the ones who really didn't have a true avant garde concept to begin with (jerrell, joe, Terri, suede)

I recall last year how Tim said an avant garde outfit doesn't have to be practical or even wearable. It's the concept and execution of it that matters.

Frank

There was a very brief view of a sketch of Joe and Daniel's dress that ended up being made and looked almost exactly like the sketch.
We've seen so little of them sketching this year that I don't know if it was Joe's or Daniel's style. The sketch was Brenda-Star-ish in the way it was done.
Does that tie it to one or other of them?

I really like Joe's dress, at first. Then I watched the episode again and realized that I actually hated it. The fit is wonky, the skirt is tacky and I absolutely hate it when skin is showing in between a bodice and skirt (cleverly hidden by the model's hands). It is not sexy, which I suppose is what a designer is going for when he/she does that it's just a sign of poor fit.

gillian said...

Ugh, have never liked purple and turquoise together (Korto)

Um...well then, thankfully Korto didn't use any turquoise. She did, however, use a couple other shades of blue.

Aquarius is an AIR sign -- it carries water!

Say what you will, I actually like Joe's dress, and really should have won that challenge.

Maybe it's not avant garde, but it was decently constructed (thanks to Daniel), and nicely designed (once again, thanks to Daniel).

It also looked like they had buried the hatchet at the time they were paired, which meant for no drama from those two. It was rather refreshing.

As for Korto's, definitely off of her game this week, primarily because of Kelli becoming "sick".

Didn't I just mention that I didn't believe that story?

Christian and Chris's design last year, while beautiful and intricate, was not avant garde at all either. The collar, while exuberant, really wasn't that out there, and the look overall looked old-fashioned, which is exactly the opposite of what you want. An avante garde look needs to be innovative or experimental...not just "a little crazier than day-to-day wear."

Some looks that are more avant garde:

1

2

3

Simply making a weird garment is NOT avant garde, though admittedly the term is somewhat ambiguous. I have no doubt that some of the designers, from this season and those past, COULD make an avant garde look, but considering that there will always be ridiculous time constraints, limits on money, stupid reality twists, etc on the show, I would doubt PR will ever actually churn one out.

"sewing siren said: It's in the 5th picture down. At the bottom center of the shot. 3/4 of a anglular face- hairline, one eye, eyebrow nose and straight mouth. See it?"




Are you one of those people who sees the Virgin Mary in snack foods and random stains?

--GothamTomato

Thanks to all who mentioned pastries.

Thanks to Patsy Stone for changing her picture. We need the bottle o' Vodka waved around this week. Desparately.

Thanks to Anonomous for reminding us that AQUARIUS IS AN AIR SIGN!

Oh, we're here to talke about the outfits?

This runs along my main pet peeve of this episode: the Zodiac dossiers are either full of crap or the designers' reading comprehension needs work.

Aries--the Ram, the Leader, the first in the year. It's a fire sign, but it's also a SPRING sign. Rebirth. The curved horn is usually the familiar icon associated with the sign. I would have loved to see the horn shape incorporated into the dress somehow.

I agree with the folks who said that this was the dress Daniel should have designed for Anita Greenkard. It had sleeves and the ruffles would have hidden her saddlebags.

Korto's dress was airy, but Aquarius is oft represented by a cariatyd-- a classic figure bearing an urn. The dress moved, but it could have flowed rather than ballooned. I'm waiting for designers to use the avant garde challenge to break into verical and horizontal space--and not just around the collar. This could have been an opportunity to do just that. But I doubt that's Korto's skill set. Perhaps had she been paired up with Jennifer... It could have been Holly Go-Lightly in a toga with Salvador Dali.

Dear Lifetime: Please give the designers more than 30 minutes to come up with a concept. You don't have to show the whole thing, just the results. We're clearly not seeing their best thinking. Thank you.

Those looks aren't really "avant-garde" by your definition, either, anonymous. The third one is Thierry Mugler, right? Is the second one a Mugler, too? He's been doing stuff like that for years; so has Dolce & Gabanna. Hadly new or inventive, considering those looks can be traced back to European armor; is that not old fashioned?

And the first one just looks like a LaCroix salad.

suzq said...

Dear Lifetime: Please give the designers more than 30 minutes to come up with a concept. You don't have to show the whole thing, just the results. We're clearly not seeing their best thinking. Thank you.

Ugh, THANK YOU! That bothers me so much. A couple of days is already a pretty short time to conceive an idea, buy the materials, and make the garment. I'd much rather see them given a bit more time and have amazing garments than have reality-show challenges ("Sketch a design in 10 minutes! Surprise, instead of fabric, you have to cull all over your materials using human parts from a corpse! You have a half-hour to dig before we get back to Parsons where you will have 3 hours to construct a professional-looking couture garment.") that result in total ass. Ugh. I'm so interested to see what Lifetime does with the show, because at this point it really can't get any worse.

Very underwhelmed by both offerings.

I don't know, but I'm Aries and I don't see any of it in Joe's and Daniel's design, but it definitely looks like profiteroles and that I LOVE!!!! :-)

Korto's looked prettier during the show, while moving, but in the pictures, not so much.....

TheNYCourier said...

Those looks aren't really "avant-garde" by your definition, either, anonymous. The third one is Thierry Mugler, right? Is the second one a Mugler, too? He's been doing stuff like that for years; so has Dolce & Gabanna. Hadly new or inventive, considering those looks can be traced back to European armor; is that not old fashioned?

You'll note I said "more avant garde." I said the term itself is open to a little interpetation, my only point was it is more than "oh look, I made a crazy collar" which is generally the PR version. I scoured the internet as quickly as possible for those pics, so they're not necessarily the best one can find. (The robot look was especially lackluster.) I was just trying to give a closer approximation (because no, nothing on the show has been avant garde by anyone's standards except maybe the contestants'). And yeah, I know how Thierry Mugler is. I don't know if these are Mugler as I didn't check, but I don't think that they are.

Once upon a time I collected Barbie dolls (vintage and collectible series' only) and I swear, both Joe & Korto's garments created for this challenge looked EXACTLY like the gowns done by designers Bob Mackie & Byron Lars for limited edition Barbies. Great on a 9" doll, but not so much on a real live woman.

I totally saw the face on Korto's gown first time around. I think that I actually liked it, but it didn't really enhance her garment. It just made it look all the more overworked and embellished. I love Korto, but avant-garde is definitely not a word I'd use to describe her point-of-view. She's fairly classical in her approach with just a splash of modernism. Sometimes designers who create specifically for the plus-sized woman get in the trap over over-embellishing because they think that more of the extras equal high-style and design. I think that this might be the case with Korto.

- edina -

TO: Gotham Tomato

I think you're thinking about profiteroles...

TheNYCourier said...

Hadly new or inventive, considering those looks can be traced back to European armor; is that not old fashioned?

Lol. That is such a lame argument. Everything can be traced back to everything. Everything has an origin, an inspiration. The point is to make it LOOK new, even if it's not, or perhaps add something to make it special and unique. Those looks anon posted were very 90's "innovative" but at the time they didn't look like they do now. I got what the poster meant and I think you did too. Throwing out some references to designers really isn't an argument.

edina monsoon said...
Sometimes designers who create specifically for the plus-sized woman...

Korto does NOT just design for larger women. She said ONCE that she's made garments for a plus-size woman and she gets labeled something she's not.

I knew exactly what he's saying, thad, and my argument still stands; it's frivolous to be splitting hairs with something as loose as the notion of an "avant-garde" design, and to say Chris and Christian's design wasn't avant-garde ( especially when they executed it in two days) and then throw out a bunch of other designs that can just as easily be criticized for lack of originality is ridiculous.

thad said...

Throwing out some references to designers really isn't an argument.

Neither is throwing out pictures, or in your case, period references.

Joe and Daniel were a match made in ho-hum-ville. Poorly sewn designs with weird fit issues are kind of Joe's calling card by now, aren't they?

Korto and Kellie at least picked a nice color scheme. I was wondering what was going on with that top part of Korto's dress.

To be avant-garde, you have to have breathing space to think outside the box. So much shit was packed into this episode that it's no wonder the designs turned out to be lackluster.

I'd like to see a challenge where in the middle of it, the designers are all rotated to another designers garment and has to finish the new garment. I think we'd see something MUCH more interesting than this episode.

>>>Aquarius is an AIR sign -- it carries water!

I figured Korto focused in on the symbolic water carrying image rather than the element, just like Joe/Daniel/Aries appeared to focus on the elemental fire and not so much the symbolic ram. I don't see air as much as cascading water. YMMV.

One reason the bodice seems askew is that it's not attached to the skirt. I rolled my eyes when I saw it on the runway - for a 41-year-old man, he's WAY too attached to the bare midriff look.

"suzq said...
Dear Lifetime: Please give the designers more than 30 minutes to come up with a concept. You don't have to show the whole thing, just the results. We're clearly not seeing their best thinking. Thank you."




Hmmm...While that's a good idea, I'm thinking that Lifetime may give them less, just to push the drama. I never paid that much attention to them before, but now I've been looking over their schedule - it's almost entirely garbage. Nothing I would watch. But they have displayed a warped sense of humor as well:

This weekend they scheduled the Ike & Tina Turner story, just as the hurricane was hitting Texas. Too bizarre.

--GothamTomato

"Carol in LA said...
TO: Gotham Tomato

I think you're thinking about profiteroles..."





Yes!

--GothamTomato

TheNYCourier said...

I knew exactly what he's saying, thad, and my argument still stands; it's frivolous to be splitting hairs with something as loose as the notion of an "avant-garde" design, and to say Chris and Christian's design wasn't avant-garde ( especially when they executed it in two days) and then throw out a bunch of other designs that can just as easily be criticized for lack of originality is ridiculous.

thad said...

Throwing out some references to designers really isn't an argument.

Neither is throwing out pictures, or in your case, period references.

So sad, you really missed my point. The fact that they may look dated now is probably due to the fact that they're OLD. That doesn't mean they weren't more avante-garde for their time. I don't think anyone was criticizing Chris or Christian's "lack of originality," they just pointed out it wasn't avant-garde! Your argument was that "Gee, that looks vaguely similar to something I've seen from Designer X ." My argument? EVERYTHING looks vaguely familiar. Thanks for playing. Don't you have some mail to deliver?

GothamTomato said...

"sewing siren said: It's in the 5th picture down. At the bottom center of the shot. 3/4 of a anglular face- hairline, one eye, eyebrow nose and straight mouth. See it?"




Are you one of those people who sees the Virgin Mary in snack foods and random stains?

--GothamTomato


No, I wish I could take credit for being the first to see the face. But I only saw it after Nancy pointed it out.
I have however seen the 3 legged ghost horse at the old flour mill.
And sometimes (after a few shots of tequila) my dog whispers prophecies to me.

GothamTomato said...
I'm thinking that Lifetime may give them less [time], just to push the drama.

These fucking producers need to realize that the drama happens in the workroom after the design and fabric choices have been made. If they speed up the design and fabric portion, the audience is going to be so bored because we'll only see the same crap churned out week after week.

I guess I don't really get teh concept of Avant Garde. Is it supposed to be wierd to the point of not wearable? Cause then I am thinking that Blayne had it in the bag.

Profiteroles? More like apple fritters to me. Joe's taste level isn't up to French pastry; he's more of a Dunkins dude. I agree with Jen in Philly that THIS is the dress he should have made for his drag queen.

Korto, as we have seen, will recover from this misstep.

I really can't make up my mind about Korto's. Sometimes I like it and sometimes I hate it. Joe's was NOT avant-garde. It's another Daniel's Flamenco creation.

Someone's had more than the doctor's recommended amount of bitch juice today.

Said with love, but I don't much understand the criticism of Joe's look. I am loathe to like anything he produces (and not just because he's straight), but since I think Daniel is by far the one to credit for this gown I can easily approve. And perhaps you will be similarly negative with all the better entries, but this is what should have won the challenge.

Siren said, "It's in the 5th picture down. At the bottom center of the shot. 3/4 of a anglular face- hairline, one eye, eyebrow nose and straight mouth. See it?"

No, I still don't, but just sitting here trying to see it is making me laugh in the midst of a very stressful day.

TheNYCourier said, "The face looks like those statues on Easter Island."

Now, that I can see.

Has anyone NOT looked at the pictures of the collections? I'm tying to wait and watch on tv as the episodes play out, and I'm just curious to know if anyone else is doing the same.

come on guys, it's Fashion from a Bitchy Gay Perspective, not nastiness to fellow posters from a ... blah blah. Let's have the love!

Korto's looked kind of a mess from the get-go. That did not look like it even had 24 hours of work done to it. But not her first mis-step of the season - did people like that reverse-dart disaster? that was scary bad. Since then, though, she's pulled it together.

I actually liked 'Janiel's' number coming down the runway but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny, which is how I've felt about several of Joe's things. and Daniel's, actually.

Now I'm craving profiterolles which is just pissing me off from the straight woman perspective ....

Siren said, "It's in the 5th picture down. At the bottom center of the shot. 3/4 of a anglular face- hairline, one eye, eyebrow nose and straight mouth. See it?"


OHMYGOD I see it now. WOW!!

I think Korto's noodles may have represented ripples on the water's surface. Perhaps if they were lighter blue/aqua, the effect would have been more obvious.

Haven't had a chance to read through all of the comments, but this is a bit of an off-topic hijack...

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/palin-hillary-open/656281/

If you didn't see the opening to this past Saturday's SNL, please watch this video...OMFG!!!!

SisterZip

I didn't think Joe's was that bad - but I think I'm grading on a curve. I wasn't wild about Korto's -- but I'm so thrilled she's still in it! What a talent!!

thanks for the post.

xoxoxoxo

Clearly, there's very little interest in last week's designs. There's not evey 100 posts on this thread. It just speaks to the dullness.

I thought everyone was talking about the face in the bodice of the dress (I finally saw the one in the 5th pic). If you look at the 3rd pic down, the direct shot of the bodice looks like a smiling Yogi Bear.

It's pretty obvious why this episode didn't include judges' deliberations & more detail for the 4 top designs.

Because they were all bad.

Except Jerrell's.

I usually find that giving the designers really specific problems to solve makes for better results but in this case I think the stupid astrology aspect of the challenge distracted them from creating anything avant-garde.

well the counter argument to that is last year they had hairstyles and half the teams came up with some very exciting stuff

BTW speaking of avant garde and Lifetime, did anyone see that Coco Channel film that premiered over the weekend

Frank

I am an Aquarius. I am NOT a fashion designer. My first thought at this challenge was "blue flowing fabric to represent water." I was a bit shocked to see Korto's design. If *I* can think of it in 30 seconds, it's not very original.

Holy crap. I think I see. I'm away from the computer for a couple hours, I go back on, I scroll down to the 5th picture, and there it is: George Washington on Mt. Rushmore!

Brooklyn Bomber said...
Holy crap. I think I see. I'm away from the computer for a couple hours, I go back on, I scroll down to the 5th picture, and there it is: George Washington on Mt. Rushmore!



Hurray!..
Tell the truth. Did you go smoke a joint?

"Brooklyn Bomber said...
Holy crap. I think I see. I'm away from the computer for a couple hours, I go back on, I scroll down to the 5th picture, and there it is: George Washington on Mt. Rushmore!"




And if you drag it into Photoshop and flip it backwards, it says, 'Paul is dead'.

--GothamTomato

Carol in LA said...
I thought everyone was talking about the face in the bodice of the dress (I finally saw the one in the 5th pic). If you look at the 3rd pic down, the direct shot of the bodice looks like a smiling Yogi Bear.

Oh, creepy! I can see that too! A slightly evil Yogi Bear. We may need to re-evaluate the avant-gardiness of this particular garment. Multiple layers of hidden messages. I wonder how many more there are.. And what they mean..

And if you drag it into Photoshop and flip it backwards, it says, 'Paul is dead'.
--GothamTomato

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Frank,
I did watch the Coco movie/miniseries/ whatever and was frustrated for what might have been.
But then I do remember seeing Miss Hepburn on Broadway in Coco and laughing at one line that the rest of the audience missed and Miss Hepburn glanced up at us in the balcony and smiled that someone got it.

Sewing Siren said, "Tell the truth. Did you go smoke a joint?"

I should have--it's been that kind of day, sigh.

Gotham said, "And if you drag it into Photoshop and flip it backwards, it says, 'Paul is dead'."

Haha!

The two a youse made my day!!

(I don't really say, "youse," even though I live in Brooklyn.)

I have to say I really have no real idea what avante garde is or is supposed to be but I do have this sense of "I know it when I see it". Like the Christian/Chris collaboration last season. I think that was avante garde? I mean it had that vibe to me...but yeah, neither of these pushes the envelope in that way.

Oh and yeah on the hunchback situation going on there...I mean the garment has to still be flattering no?

And if you drag it into Photoshop and flip it backwards, it says, 'Paul is dead'.

--GothamTomato

heehee...classic GT.

The lower half of Joe and Daniel's dress reminds me of tree fungus.


I've been over to Joe's Redfly site. His DoubleD Ranch line is well done, and in this context, what he showed at fashion week made perfect sense, especially if what he's trying to do is get more money to push this line into the a larger stream. I can easily see a lot of these DoubleD pieces in the South and southwest, as well as in parts of the western U.S.

@gothamtomato: Did you forget about Korto's flappy yellow dress for the "eco friendly" challenge?

I have to say that everyone's probably waiting for Leanne's review post to gush about the designs.

All the others.. I kinda just don't give a hoot.. like, at all.

I will say the Aries piece really came alive when it was walked down the runway!

brooklyn bomber--

I admire you for NOT looking at the collections!
You have a strength I couldn't muster--
I thought about it for about 6 seconds then looked.

Yes, Lilithcat, a croquembouche, for sure. And much, much tastier than Korto's concoction. I didn't understand the flowing water and the armor/noodles. She seemed out of her element.

Actually, all the designers seemed out of their element. Astrology was not a productive muse.

I didn't like Korto's design at all and now that I had a closer look, I even think it's ugly. And I'm fed up with noodles.

I actually liked Joe and Daniel's design. Yep, it wasn't perfect and it wasn't avantgarde but it was well made and a very nice surprise.

Close up, Korto's dress isn't up to much. I liked the colors she used, but maybe because they are my favorite colors.

Joe and Daniel's collaboration was alright. The fabric choices did give it a dessert quality.

Wonder blog and wonderful presentation...