
We don't care if the season's not half over. This:
"I don't know what he's packing, balls or vajayjay, but he needs to work that out 'cause I ain't got no babies, ain't nobody sucking on my titties. So please, man up."
Is the best line of the season. Seriously, who's gonna be able to outdo that one? We want a t-shirt that says "I ain't got no babies sucking on my titties."
And we can't really fault her for the sentiment.
Seriously, what the hell happened with these two?
As annoying as Suede's been up till now, he never seemed to have a problem getting the work done.
And Terri's been low-drama so far.
Why then, did these two just fall apart with this challenge?
Suddenly Suede's fretting and whining and worrying that he can't get the job done well enough to please Terri.
And Terri put her bitch pants on and refused to take them off.
We think they just saw "team challenge" and panicked. Anybody who's seen the show knows that these challenges are a minefield and these two were probably afraid that the other one was going to throw them under the bus in front of the judges. One kind word from Tim and suddenly Terri loves Suede's work. They just both needed to hear that they weren't in trouble.
Oh shit. We just used the tiresome "thrown under the bus" catchphrase. Shoot us.
All that drama, and for what?
A pretty mediocre look, that's what.
We don't hate it. It's just....okay.
Look, we were around for the '80s and we've seen enough paisley to last us several lifetimes. It comes back at least once a decade but that doesn't mean we have to love it. We kinda liked the print anyway, but since the entire look rests on it, we didn't think it was the strongest choice.
And therein lies the problem: the entire look was in the top. It's a basic gypsy blouse. Big whoop. Too many of the designers heard the word "bohemian" in the brief and focused only on that.
And while we're on it: since the whole look was the top, why did Terri give the top to Suede and then sweat all over him? If she was that worried about it, she should have given him the pants to do while she took care of the main part of her design. Designers, it's way too early in the game to be letting pressure and sleep deprivation get to you like this. Have a coffee/valium cocktail.
And that belt looks cheap.
The pants are nicely done - in fact, the whole outfit is nicely done. We just don't think it was all that interesting a design, nor do we think it followed the dictates of the challenge all that well. It's not an office look (exposed shoulders in the office?) and we're not seeing a day-to-night transition anywhere either.
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8/20/08, 10:05 AM
I let out a huge guffaw when Terri made that remark. Never heard anything quite like it! Truthfully, I like her, and I like her designs, and I think she's got the goods to make it to Bryant Park.
8/20/08, 10:05 AM
In contrast to all the prepackaged interview nonsense, those immortal words from Terri. Heaven.
8/20/08, 10:09 AM
Yeah, I backed the ol' Tivo up a couple of times for that. Classic.
See, you put the "sleeves" UP for the office. So that it's a...very ruffly U-neck top... Again, I do appreciate well made pants as an alternative to the sea o'skirts/dresses, but I just can't get behind giant ruffles on anyone over 25.
8/20/08, 10:14 AM
TLo, I agree. It was strange that Terri gave Suede the task of executing the top when the outfit was all about the top. (And isn't Suede's background in jeans - hence, leg wear?) I'm also not mad in love with the overall look. If not for her audition video I'd be concerned that Terri's work was not unusual enough or original enough to take her to Bryant Park. I'm still waiting to be bowled over by a design from her. Maybe the drag challenge will encourage her to pull out the stops. Girls got it in her, no doubt. But still waiting to see it on the runway.
8/20/08, 10:14 AM
I hated that line from Terri, but that's me. As for the outfit -- nice, okay, blah blah. On the plus side, there shouldn't be any "Terri was robbed!" posts this time.
8/20/08, 10:17 AM
"My friend said that they smoked a roach and that then went to the bathroom together"
Suede? Yuck!
8/20/08, 10:18 AM
The line was funny, but when even Oprah is saying something like "vajayjay," I think it's pretty much dead.
The outfit was ok, but didn't feel quite right for the challenge. It also seems that Terri's done a few ruffly-ish collars now. I hope if she makes it to Bryant Park it won't be ruffled collar after different ruffled collar.
8/20/08, 10:20 AM
Amen! Terri wins the best line of the past TWO seasons, if you ask me. She is awesome!
But, you're right about her look. It was meh.
8/20/08, 10:21 AM
TLo, I agree with your post entirely! I also don't get why Terri didn't do the top herself if she was so worried about getting aufed and it was the main component of her look.
I felt sorry for Suede (and at this point, that's hard to do) when Terri openly said that his work was 'terrible' in front of everyone in the sewing room. Obviously, somebody flunked out of the Timothy M. Gunn School of Effective Communication.
As Sewing Siren has rightfully reminded us in an earlier post, sewing for 8 hours straight can be exhausting, even more so when you're running on less than optimal sleep and dramarama is everywhere. However, the team challenges do show us everyone's true character under pressure, and sometimes it is amazing who cracks under it and who doesn't.
As for Terri's design, I mentioned that she has the potential to be this season's Uli Herzner. And if she makes one more outfit with pants and a blouse/shirt that does all the work, she runs the risk of the judges saying "we've seen this before - show us something new."
8/20/08, 10:23 AM
I think this team challenge brought out a lot of what commenters have said about this season's designers: they think very highly of their work and most don't take direction too well. There was a lot of eye rolling of the leaders in having to work with a designer (that they chose) that was "beneath" their talents. And then, a majority of the "assistant" designers were spineless, hapless, uncooperative, or thought they were above taking direction.
Why did the leaders choose someone, then belittle them?
Still, Suede is annoying.
8/20/08, 10:26 AM
Terri has managed one feat that no other designer this season has: she's managed to be entertaining and intriguing without trying too hard (Suede and Blayne, I'm looking at you).
She's got the design chops, so I'm always curious what she'll create, and she's mature and candid when she speaks, so I like it when she gets screen time.
I'd invite Terri to a cocktail party. I'd need several cocktails to survive spending time with many of the other designers.
8/20/08, 10:26 AM
Tlo said: "...we're not seeing a day-to-night transition anywhere either."
When I watched this, I said "Where is the day to night transition?!" out loud to my TV(as my husband refuses to watch with me. I seriously want advice from all you commenters who talk about watching w/ your husbands). It really seemed to miss the point of the challenge!
8/20/08, 10:27 AM
And if she makes one more outfit with pants and a blouse/shirt that does all the work, she runs the risk of the judges saying "we've seen this before - show us something new."
Thank you, C'est moi. I was just going to post this. Much as I'm on the TerriLoveTrain, I'm getting a little tired of the pants & top separates. Obviously for last week it was appropriate, but she's done separates for every freaking challenge.
And I do think she was very harsh to Suede. He went to her right away with his concerns that there wouldn't be enough material. She brushed him off with a basic "just do it!" and when she was concerned that it didn't look right, she blamed Suede. All for nothing!
At first I was thinking "Terri was robbed" of the top 2, but the more I look at it, the more I think this is not appropriate for a high-powered executive. Office wear, absolutely, but not executive office wear.
8/20/08, 10:29 AM
Terri in an apparently unguarded moment, letting her inner diva shine. Cracked us up. I was surprised at the intensity/duration of Suede's little implosion over...the top. I was just thinking he needed to suck it up when Terri's immortal words came out. Hee, hee.
I agree, Terri should have made the top since it spoke louder than the pants in this look. Throughout the challenges though, Terri really seems to like her pants, or is it just me?
Didn't love the look, especially the cheap looking belt. Bohemian was the word of the day, I guess.
Don't 'cha loooooove Tim?
8/20/08, 10:33 AM
Agree - Terri's comment was the best this season so far - but, I was perplexed and slightly annoyed at her over the top bitchiness for seemingly no real reason.....but....vajayjay?? I have to give props to anyone who can use that word in a sentence AND on national TV.
Suede confused me too - he acted like it was the first day in design school and he didn't have a clue which way was up.....bizarre.....
The design worried me and the belt didn't impress either. I liked the look but it's not office appropriate. And yes, can't see the day to night transition either....
Hope Terri does better in the next round....
8/20/08, 10:39 AM
Tom in KC I agree with you!
I too think she has the design chops to back up her entertaining personality.
I have liked most of her stuff from the beginning. Even her mop top. I loved that.
8/20/08, 10:39 AM
Gacm said:
Tlo said: "...we're not seeing a day-to-night transition anywhere either."
When I watched this, I said "Where is the day to night transition?!" out loud to my TV(as my husband refuses to watch with me. I seriously want advice from all you commenters who talk about watching w/ your husbands). It really seemed to miss the point of the challenge!
10:26 AM
Regarding the outfit..trite and overdone.
Regarding watching PR with hubby, my hubby and I made a pact. I watch his favorite baseball team on TV with him, he watches PR with me. And you know what? I hated baseball, he hated "fashion shows", and lo and behold, we are now both interested in the other's favorite shows!! Heck, he even lingers to watch Shear Genius!!!
----StkrShock
8/20/08, 10:40 AM
Gacm said, "I seriously want advice from all you commenters who talk about watching w/ your husbands)."
Let your husband wander in and out of the room, as is his wont. Allow him to think he's not watching. When he asks a question that shows he's seen more than he lets on, don't make a fuss about it. Refer to the designers by name and by description; i.e., "Yes, honey, Mary, the tall one, got praised for using the same colors that Jose, the guy with the ponytail, got slammed for last week."
8/20/08, 10:41 AM
I was meh on Terri this week (though I liked the top more than I thought I could when it was U-shaped) minus that wondrous line. Speaking of late 30some professional women with mouths on them we love, the latest Cho Show commercial features Margaret in Sebelia's Bryant Park final look zipper dress.
8/20/08, 10:46 AM
I must be the only one who found Terri's remark offensively sexist and stereotyped. Seriously, a genuine strong woman - as opposed to one who's just putting on the act for TV - would not consider implying possession of a vagina (and yes real women say the real word) the ultiamte insult.
8/20/08, 10:46 AM
The orange bracelet was what caught my eye on the runway. When a BlueFly accessory is the standout of your look, you haven't done good work.
I thought the belt looked like something from the Gristede's challenge. Like they had unstrung a beach chair for it.
"Man Up" cracked me up. But if these designers keep snapping like this, I think we might have a "Man Down" situation instead.
8/20/08, 10:50 AM
Anonymous, you are NOT the only one that found it offensive. It wasn't a classic comment - it was classless.
8/20/08, 10:51 AM
Oh, lighten up, ladies.
8/20/08, 10:55 AM
I agree TLo, "Why DID Terri give the top to Suede?"
I disagree TLo ...The Terri line? Please. If you can say balls, you can say vagina. Vajayjay is asinine.
LOVE the posts and the comments, too!
LAK
8/20/08, 10:56 AM
"I must be the only one who found Terri's remark offensively sexist and stereotyped"
No, anon, you're not. Sexist AND homophobic. That's why I said I hated it.
8/20/08, 10:57 AM
TLo, on point, as always.
As to the "immortal words from Terri" funny, yes. Great TV, yes. Pointlessly harsh and crude, yes. Give me classy, wry, witty putdowns over street smack-talk any day. I mean, it's SUEDE. It's not like she didn't have enough raw material there to really snap him.
The outfit. Ho hum. We've already seen it, in blue. Maybe I'd like it better if the belt didn't remind me so much of a guitar strap I used in college when my jeans got too big.
And part of the entertainment of PR is watching my husband growl and snort about the show. And later asking me "did the Smurf or the gnome win?" (Suede or Blayne, I presume).
8/20/08, 11:01 AM
Brooklyn Bomber at 10:14 AM said...I hated that line from Terri, but that's me.
I hated the line and I especially hated the over-reaction that led to the line. Terri went off because Suede did not want to cut the fabric until Terri looked at it and confirmed it was OK. Terri, sweetheart, you go off on someone who cuts too soon. Remember the adage, measure twice, cut once.
BTW, Terri did the same thing (over-reacted, but on a smaller scale) last week with her sense of entitlement to the fabric. Yeah, I see her wanting to be the only designer using it, but it wasn't an act of sabotage on Keith's part, requiring "a sistuh to have to keep one eye open."
This week Terri made the pants. Yes, pants are more difficult than people expect, but she's made pants for that same model twice before. The blouse was the "statement," the pants were the pedestal. I get the bohemian, but I don't get executive and I don't get day to evening. Terri and Suede were lucky they escaped the bottom.
8/20/08, 11:04 AM
Gotta agree with B Bomber, Anon 10:46 and 10:50. I found the comment more tasteless than amusing.
As for the outfit, unoriginal but pretty.
Am I the only one who is far underwhelmed by this season's designers? No wow factor at all yet. Can't wait for tonight. I hope SOMEONE breaks it OUT.
8/20/08, 11:04 AM
Poor Suede! First he gets emasculated by Terri and then he has to deal with Hedda Lettuce! I love the preview when Hedda Lettuce - whom you would not want to meet in a dark alley - tells Suede, "Just get it right!"
8/20/08, 11:05 AM
I liked her comments--
and I have had babies breastfeed.
Suede really did act wussy and incapable.
The look is okay--but not a winner. I can see it being worn, but not by Brooke on her show. And the belt-- it has to go, where? to the dump! I too thought that they took apart an unsold beach chair from Walmart and used it as a belt.
8/20/08, 11:06 AM
Bailey said...
I hope if she makes it to Bryant Park it won't be ruffled collar after different ruffled collar.
Because there's no way that's going to win.
8/20/08, 11:08 AM
"Am I the only one who is far underwhelmed by this season's designers? No wow factor at all yet. Can't wait for tonight. I hope SOMEONE breaks it OUT"
Agree. Among the current front runners, I'm still waiting for Terri and Korto to really BRING IT ON. From the previews it looks like Korto is going to do just that. On the other hand, not sure about Terri's drag outfit.
8/20/08, 11:09 AM
What is with all of the claims of racism, homophobia and misogyny lately (in this, and previous posts)? It's really a stretch.
If PRG gets too PC, we'll be left making fun of Joe.
And, really, how much fun could that possibly be?
8/20/08, 11:12 AM
I think Suede's being short-changed here. Terri created all the drama for their team by giving Suede the task of the shirt. It is very difficult to work when someone is standing over your shoulder telling you that your work is horrible. And the fact is, it wasn't horrible. No matter what you think about the design of the shirt, it IS well made, and Suede isn't getting enough credit for that. Suede at least voiced his concerns early in the process because he cared about the integrity of the finished product. He recognized that they had two different approaches to the construction and tried to work within her parameters. I admire the fact that he was able to maintain his skills amid her constant bullying.
8/20/08, 11:12 AM
Terri was robbed of her sanity in this ep.
She overreacted to Suede's concerns and made a lame, lunch with the ladies outfit.
8/20/08, 11:13 AM
"I don't know what he's packing, balls or vajayjay, but he needs to work that out 'cause I ain't got no babies, ain't nobody sucking on my titties. So please, man up."
My girlfriends and I were hysterical laughing. So for the record, SOME of us found it VERY funny.
Too much ado about a very simple and uninspired outfit. It's pretty but nothing remotely special about it. The belt is horrible.
8/20/08, 11:18 AM
It was a great line. But almost Too great. Again, I can't shake the feeling that both Korto and Terri decided to ramp it up for the cameras. Not that we don't all have our diva moments, and that exhaustion might exacerbate their severity and frequency, but it all seemed so....forced. Terri is the quietly competent one who suddenly goes all urban bitch goddess? Not quite buying it.
And though Suede was a little whiny, he was just making an effort to be sure he was doing it EXACTLY the way she wanted lest she throw him under the MiniCooper (more eco-friendly than "bus.") Ultimately, I think TLo has it right that it was insecurity fixed by Tim. And yes, the look itself is "meh" and the fact she assigned him the signature part of her design means she was intending to torpedo him if it didn't work out. Hmmm. Maybe she is the calculating urban bitch goddess after all.
8/20/08, 11:18 AM
It was off the shoulders for evening, on the shoulders for day.
And it was still mostly blah.
The belt sucked ass. And not in a good, fun, happy way.
But, oh the drama! It was gorgeous and produced some great lines. I do think Terri uttered the best of the season thus far.
8/20/08, 11:27 AM
I really want to see all the outtakes, especially (a) the predecessor to the vajayjay remark and (b) the fall out to Kenley's runway laugh. I didn't think what we saw of Suede's behavior warranted such a remark. I'd definitely rather work with someone who expressed concerns about the finished product than someone who brags that he doesn't care about the design. (Looking at you, Daniel.)
While I did think the comment itself was hilarious, I also think that emasculating the guy was tasteless, crude and a low blow.
8/20/08, 11:32 AM
I'm concerned that Terri is more sleep-deprived than the others and is overly jacked up on Red Bull or something. I'm afraid she is going to crash hard and I don't want that to be her undoing.
8/20/08, 11:37 AM
I'm writing this while sitting at work wearing an off-the-shoulder top...
Thanks for making me feel like the office skank TLo - just kidding, I love you guys.
As for the outfit. I liked it and would have probably bought it to wear :) but it was just average for the challenge. And I really wish Terri would do a friggin' dress.
8/20/08, 11:39 AM
Vajajay. The only contribution "The View" has made to society was adding that word to the lexicon.
Man up. Terri's contribution to Project Runway S5 last week was shaking Suede to the point where he had to "man up." She shook his ability to refer to himself in the third person right out of him!
But for all of Terri's bravado, she ended up on someone else's chest for sustainance and encouragement:
Tim's!
8/20/08, 11:43 AM
Myra Flection said...
"Am I the only one who is far underwhelmed by this season's designers"
Anonymous "seconded" that motion.
I couldn't agree more.
Under...whelmed.
Looking forward to tonight - where I hope I can change my vote!
8/20/08, 11:48 AM
The whole this was a little cheap looking to me. Not sure why but that's the deal.
On a side note, I ran into Suede in NY last week and girl was a drunken mess!
8/20/08, 11:50 AM
Brooklyn Bomber said...
I hated that line from Terri, but that's me. As for the outfit -- nice, okay, blah blah. On the plus side, there shouldn't be any "Terri was robbed!" posts this time.
10:14 AM
I did let out a rather lady-like guffaw at the line, but I agree with BB. Is that how you want to have people remember you when you are out looking for backers?
I don't think so.
SisterZip
8/20/08, 12:00 PM
I love Terri! She's been my favorite since day one.
8/20/08, 12:01 PM
The outfit was OK. I actually like the top a lot and the pants were well made, but I can't picture Brooke or her character wearing it.
8/20/08, 12:01 PM
Best PR line EVER!!!
8/20/08, 12:07 PM
I think people get offended too easily these days. We need to learn to lighten up and not take ourselves so seriously. If we had cameras on us 24/7 we'd be saying things like that or even worse.
8/20/08, 12:08 PM
TERRI ROCKS! I LOVE HER!! GO TERRI!!!
8/20/08, 12:12 PM
I would just love to go to some old theatre with comfortable chairs, lots of liquor and watch Project Runway with T-LO, Gotham Tomato, Sewing Siren, Gorgeous Things, Brooklyn Bomber, and BILL -- that would be a dream come true.
(there are a lot more of you out there, but there is only so much room on the blog)
8/20/08, 12:18 PM
Suzette,
The Smurf is a perfect name for Suede!
"It's totally Suede! It's totally Smurf!"
8/20/08, 12:21 PM
I really like Terri and I can't stand Suede, but giving him the blouse to do was clearly a strategic move. If they had ended up in the bottom, she could have easily pointed to him, whereas if she had done the shirt herself, there would have been no reason to send Suede home over her.
I kind of lost a little respect for her after that, but on the other hand, it IS a game. Every man for himself, I suppose.
8/20/08, 12:29 PM
I don't know why, but I really like the outfit. I don't necessarily think that it should have been the winner, or even in the top, since it looks more "Night on the town" than "Outfit you wear at work and then go out for cocktails".
8/20/08, 12:37 PM
I really hated that belt. It looked like an afterthought in a "too big" but not fashionable way. Just like she'd thrown on her way overweight roommate's belt because she couldn't find another one. There's oversized but then there's stupid supersized as an accident. Yeah, I just made that up. Coffee, I need coffee.
8/20/08, 12:44 PM
I was also puzzled as to why Terri put Suede in charge of the blouse. Pants can be a bitch, but the waist and crotch were covered by the blouse, so I can't understand why she did it.
The look was okay, but it was mighty similar to the night on the town look.
In my book neither of them were being too dramatic, just a little mild bitching. No big deal.
For those who are going to the TLOunge later. Tonights speciality drink will contain rum, because Mr. Siren poured my bottle of gin down the kitchen sink after last Thur. morning. :(
8/20/08, 12:58 PM
Terri grossed me out saying that, having to think of those parts on both of them. GROSS. That top should have been done by her and those pants by suede. She does the same thing over and over. Same pants, same ruffle, same crap. I hope she does some different.
8/20/08, 1:02 PM
I too wondered why Terri put Suede in charge of the top when it was the main look of the outfit. And it wasn't all that interesting a main look either. Plus, Terri hating it and then loving it based on what Tim said. Maybe it was the editing, but that whole sequence seemed odd.
And you can put me in the same camp as Brooklyn Bomber about hating Terri's remark. I didn't analyze why, I just hated it. And I don't have to apologize for that any more than the people who loved it do. It's called diversity of opinion, folks. Happens all the time.
8/20/08, 1:05 PM
I didn't understand why she was so annoyed with him, he was doing his job. She should've appreciated the fact that he wanted to get it right.
I hate that type of blouse, but that's just me.
8/20/08, 1:05 PM
"On a side note, I ran into Suede in NY last week and girl was a drunken mess!"
Did you smoke a roach and pay a visit to the toilet with him as well?
8/20/08, 1:07 PM
I'd invite Terri to a cocktail party. I'd need several cocktails to survive spending time with many of the other designers.
I agree, and think that is the best comment on this thread (holding my opinion on the best comment of season 5 :-)
When the model turned the runway, I thought "I don't hate it," which seems the opinion of most people. It was safe, just like Korto and Joe's. I think the day-to-night transition was supposed to be "shoulders up=day, shoulders down=evening" however, IIRC, the model pulled the shoulders up at the end of the runway, getting it backward.
8/20/08, 1:08 PM
I was really surprised with Terri's reaction. I guess she was afraid to be the one sent home if anything bad happened.
You now, the more I look at those screencaps (thank you, boys) the more I question Brooke Shields' picks. Most of them don't seem appropriate for an office at all.
8/20/08, 1:12 PM
And while we're on it: since the whole look was the top, why did Terri give the top to Suede and then sweat all over him? If she was that worried about it, she should have given him the pants to do while she took care of the main part of her design.
That was precisely the argument I made to my viewing buddies the second time I watched this episode. If things had gone poorly with the shirt (thankfully they didn't), I wouldn't have felt any pity for Terri for setting herself up to throw the blame on Suede.
And that quote may be memorable, but I personally found it to be crude. I've enjoyed the work Terri produced to this point, but I've lost a great deal of respect I had for her as an individual.
8/20/08, 1:21 PM
suzq said...
Vajajay. The only contribution "The View" has made to society was adding that word to the lexicon.
Actually the term originated on "Grey's Anatomy".
Shonda Rhimes came up w/ it to mollify standards executives @ ABC who wanted the word 'vagina' used fewer times.
File under "Be careful what you wish for".
8/20/08, 1:28 PM
carol in la, I agree with you about Suede's concerns and about how he did a solid job on the shirt. In Tim's Take for this week, Tim says that Terri was micromanaging Suede to such an extent that it was incapacitating.
So yeah, Suede gets some props for last week. And I feel he is walking into deep trouble this week with mean Hedda Lettuce!
8/20/08, 1:30 PM
Not to incite a riot, but how come everyone was up in arms over Joe's "queens" comment, and most people are a-ok with Terri's "balls or vajayjay" comment? Just saying....
8/20/08, 1:30 PM
8/20/08, 1:45 PM
That belt made it look sloppy- too sloppy for work. And that top is a variation on the theme of that blue top she made a few weeks ago. She DOES kill me though....something tells me we are going to see more of those claws in the near future!
8/20/08, 1:45 PM
That belt made it look sloppy- too sloppy for work. And that top is a variation on the theme of that blue top she made a few weeks ago. She DOES kill me though....something tells me we are going to see more of those claws in the near future!
8/20/08, 1:59 PM
I was repulsed away from Terri after this episode. Besides her vulgar and pretty much sexist remarks, she was just such a bitch. And not the fun kind, just the rude and intolerable kind. The top makes the look, so she gave it to Suede and then hunched over him like a vulture? He looked to her, the leader, for guidance on how to bring her vision to life, and she spat venom at him like that? He had worries over the outfit and consulted her, to which she shot him down, and then later throws a hissy fit over how it looks? Terri, get over yourself, hun.
8/20/08, 2:01 PM
I think your links for the detail pictures are broken.
I am a lurker but I heart this blog! Thanks so much for the great reviews every week!
8/20/08, 2:09 PM
Anon 1:30pm-- I agree. If "queens" is homophobic and Joe's getting hate for it, why is it OK for Terri to say she doesn't know whether Suede, a bisexual man, has balls or a vajayjay? That seems pretty bi-phobic to me, but in my experience, no one will stand up for the bi's, not the gays or the straights. Thus, Terri gets laughter and praise for her comment, and Joe gets called an asshole. Quelle surprise, as Suede said.
8/20/08, 2:13 PM
Who called Joe an asshole?
8/20/08, 2:14 PM
It would be perfect for the drag queen challenge.
This season and the last one really miss(ed) the behind the scenes dish in Tim's podcast & Rucker's production blog.
Wouldn't we all like to know more?
Unless (possible with this crew) there is no more. What a crew.
-- desertwind
8/20/08, 2:45 PM
Anon 2:13-- read the comments from the Olympics challenge and see all the animosity directed at Joe for his "too many queens" remark. I am not personally offended by anything said by reality show contestants, but people were really getting their panties in a wad over Joe's crack, yet I think Terri's is much more blatantly insulting, harsh, and phobic. Yet the reaction? ::crickets:: Which I think shows you where people's lines are.
8/20/08, 2:52 PM
Look no further "TLo" the "I ain't got no babies sucking on my titties" Tee is here
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8/20/08, 2:59 PM
Anonymous said...
Anon 2:13-- read the comments from the Olympics challenge and see all the animosity directed at Joe for his "too many queens" remark. I am not personally offended by anything said by reality show contestants, but people were really getting their panties in a wad over Joe's crack, yet I think Terri's is much more blatantly insulting, harsh, and phobic. Yet the reaction? ::crickets:: Which I think shows you where people's lines are.
For someone who claims to not be offended by reality show contestants you sure sound like you're trying your damnedest to be offended.
And I read that post and its comments. The vast majority of the comments though what Joe said was no big deal. Why are you assuming that those who were offended by Joe's comments are the same people who aren't offended by Terri's?
8/20/08, 3:19 PM
Folks, the line was about whether you're packing weiner or girlstuff you've got to step it up. Sure, she said it one of the lower ways possible, but this Bushwick boy loved every second of it. It wasn't about insulting a gender or an orientation. Rather the opposite, it was about "Whatever you've got, just step up."
Loved the quote. I want to fill Terri with babies that can later suck on her titties.
8/20/08, 3:30 PM
It is an aggressively average look, coming from two designers who are anything BUT average. Who woulda thunk it that the two most quotable designers this season would balk when put together.
They cancelled each other out like a double negative.
--GothamTomato
8/20/08, 3:43 PM
I was amazed that they let "vajayjay" through but then bleeped "titties." How is "titties" worse than "vajayjay"? Sheesh.
8/20/08, 3:50 PM
Anon 2:59pm said "For someone who claims to not be offended by reality show contestants you sure sound like you're trying your damnedest to be offended."
:shrug: Pointing out a discrepancy in people's reactions is not the same as being offended. There WERE people in the Joe thread taking offense, crying homophobia, and calling Joe names. I don't see any of that here and this comment was MORE inflmmatory, not less. I'm interesting in that difference and wondering about it. If the mere act of trying to have this discussion makes you think I'm offended, well, that's not a problem I'm having.
8/20/08, 4:06 PM
At first, I thought Terri said "sucking on my dick" and I thought - well, that makes no sense at all! Then I rewound.
8/20/08, 4:10 PM
carol in la: I wish she had said that! Certainly would have taken some of the sting out of her gender smack at Suede.
8/20/08, 4:23 PM
Laura said...
I think your links for the detail pictures are broken.
I am a lurker but I heart this blog! Thanks so much for the great reviews every week!
Fixed. Sorry about that.
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TLo
8/20/08, 4:35 PM
Terri would have probably said the same thing to a straight man. People are reading too much into it.
8/20/08, 4:35 PM
Quote:
And you can put me in the same camp as Brooklyn Bomber about hating Terri's remark. I didn't analyze why, I just hated it. And I don't have to apologize for that any more than the people who loved it do. It's called diversity of opinion, folks. Happens all the time.
I agree with Rainwood and Brooklyn Bomber. Terri's comment was vulgar and repulsive.
It's amazing that she was so fluently verbal in such a crude and coarse way.
8/20/08, 4:36 PM
Suede has approached EACH challenge like it's his first sewing project. He's been doing silhouettes so simple you probably couldn't find patterns for things so basic at Jo Ann Fabrics. I'm surprised he hasn't been called out on it. Suede's technical skills are definitely not where they should be.
8/20/08, 4:37 PM
I think what all the designers need is a little evening off with booze, like the shear genius group seemed to have OFTEN!
8/20/08, 4:40 PM
It looks very well-constructed and I like the pants but it's a very simple outfit. I didn't love it.
8/20/08, 4:41 PM
It's nice, but it doesn't really look like business wear. It seems far too casual to wear to the office, although she could definitely wear it out later that night.
8/20/08, 4:42 PM
There's no transitional appeal to the outfit.
8/20/08, 4:43 PM
Well, I loved Terri's outfit. I would totally wear that to work and at night. I like everything she's made so far.
8/20/08, 4:45 PM
Now that was partnership made in hell! LOL
Not appropriate for the office, kinda cheap looking to go out, I think. Suede is a baby. Yes, man up!
8/20/08, 4:46 PM
No 'wow' factor here. Plain, boring, same-old peasant blouse with black pants and I LOVE HER! : (
8/20/08, 4:49 PM
I thought Terri's behavior was a little over the top when all Suede was trying to do was to make her happy. Another one who cracks under pressure.
8/20/08, 4:50 PM
Cute, but not at all businesslike.
8/20/08, 4:51 PM
I LOVED THIS OUTFIT! It should have been in the top two.
8/20/08, 4:52 PM
Poor Suede. Suede should've told Suede to tell Terri to fuck off.
8/20/08, 4:54 PM
I like what Chris March said about Teri and Suede:
"Terri and Suede pretended some fun drama for the cameras, only to have a happily ever after ending. Terri shows her true claws--I mean colors--accusing poor Suede of having a "Va-Jay-Jay" instead of his appropiate male equipment. I think Terri is very talented, but showed plenty of balls herself to let that clown suit walk down the runway. High powered fashion executive? Or Bozo in drag?"
She admitted watching all seasons; I think she was just playing for the camera.
8/20/08, 4:56 PM
I loved the top, even the cheap belt. I think it's cute, sexy, and funky. I totally dig this outfit.
8/20/08, 4:58 PM
Things can be funny, tasteless, and mean. I think "Drama and Queens' per Joe, was tasteless and mean. "Balls and Vajayjay" per Terry was all three.
8/20/08, 5:06 PM
She was talking about his behavior NOT his sexuality or gender.
She didn't say 'too many men without balls in this room' or 'too many men with vajayjay around here'
THAT's the difference.
8/20/08, 5:16 PM
I was so bored by this outfit that I can't be bothered to comment.
8/20/08, 5:24 PM
The way Terri can knock out garments, I think she was mostly just frustrated that she had to rely on someone else to do something when she probably could have done both items the way she wanted to in the same amount of time.
Not the strongest look, didn't handle the team challenge well, but I still think she's going to Bryant Park.
8/20/08, 5:54 PM
I'm joining the minority who didn't find Terri's remark funny. I thought it was a distasteful slam. So Suede is gay -- so what?
The outfit was OK but I thought the day-to-night transition was backwards. She should have started with the sleeves up (for daytime), then pulled them off her shoulders (for nighttime). Maybe Terri didn't trust her to do that on the runway though.
8/20/08, 6:04 PM
"twc said...
I'm joining the minority who didn't find Terri's remark funny. I thought it was a distasteful slam. So Suede is gay -- so what? "
Do you really think that she has a problem with Suede being gay?
8/20/08, 7:02 PM
xaviera is fucking amazing
8/20/08, 7:04 PM
Shauna said...
xaviera is fucking amazing
I agree, she's gorgeous.
8/20/08, 7:49 PM
I hated that comment. In fact, I really expected TLo to trash it as being (a) vulgar without also being witty and (b) incredibly, offensively sexist, and to chide Terri for making such a painfully awkward attempt to be quotable.
So color me surprised. :-o
8/20/08, 8:05 PM
i dunno, ted... "queen" could be a man or a woman (witness tonight's challenge for proof) but "balls or vajayjay" is a direct reference to a person's gender "confusion," ie., a bisexual. would she have said it to a straight man? i can't know for sure but i strongly doubt it. it was equating his timid and cautious behavior (which was justified considering how scary she was acting) with not having a penis. how anyone can say that's not sexist and nasty is beyond me. the phrasing is funny, the intent behind it? not so much.
8/20/08, 8:47 PM
...but "balls or vajayjay" is a direct reference to a person's gender "confusion," ie., a bisexual. would she have said it to a straight man? i can't know for sure but i strongly doubt it. it was equating his timid and cautious behavior (which was justified considering how scary she was acting) with not having a penis. how anyone can say that's not sexist and nasty is beyond me. the phrasing is funny, the intent behind it? not so much.
Couldn't have said it better. When a person tries to berate a man by implying he has no penis, otherwise known as attacking his masculinity, they've sunk pretty low. Terri seemed pretty classy until that and her vulgar suckling comment.
8/20/08, 9:18 PM
It may have just been the editing, but it looked like when Tim came around Terri was working on the collar. All we ever saw Suede touch was the basics of the shirt, not the detailing. If that's true, then she didn't leave the entirety of the top to Suede and actually took the hardest technical piece of the outfit herself (as she should have). Personally that's what I'm hoping is true, since I mostly like Terri. I think she does need to show she can do other things, though, or she won't make Bryant Park, even though I think she's a shoe-in for at least the final five.
8/20/08, 10:02 PM
"You gotta cry AND cut..."
Can you imagine a Terri/Zulema match-up?
8/20/08, 10:11 PM
I knew Suede was truly stressed out the moment he referred to himself in the first person. Did anyone catch that?
~Maharhar
8/21/08, 1:28 AM
It's funny... the first thing I thought, as I scrolled down the page and saw the picture of Suede covering/tearing out his blue hair, is "wow, he looks so much better with just blonde hair!" Then, further down, where the blue is against the blue workroom wall, I realized he's actually sort of cute, but I never even noticed between the hair, the clothes and 10# of bracelets, and the 3rd person speech.
8/21/08, 8:27 AM
I was turned off by Terri's statement and her attitude. She seems insecure. She quickly sews classic pieces consistently this season but they are not necessarily innovative or anything I haven't seen before. I would say Terri is a competent talented designer and seamster. In last season's group, she would not likely have made it to the final 4. In this group, however, the curve may prove to be to her advantage.
I think that she, along with the other designers on this show could improve with some time at an established design house that has a forward moving design aesthetic like Dior . (Knowing almost nothing about how those things work, it seemed to really shape and put Christian Siriano's standards and skill above the line working with AM--but then he was very willing to learn and soak everything up like a little sponge.)
Maybe this season should have been titled "Designer's Apprentice?"
8/21/08, 10:29 AM
Maybe this season should have been titled "Designer's Apprentice?"
EXACTLY!!!!
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